Baby Boks falter, big trio triumph
4 Jun 2012
GARETH DUNCAN reports on the opening day of the Junior World Championship in Cape Town.
AUSTRALIA 62 (36) SCOTLAND 12 (5), BELLVILLE
It was a convincing showing from the Aussies, who thrived on attack against a fragile Scotland defence. The former exposed the latter thanks to their ability to offload in the tackle regularly and their effective set-piece play.
Australia ran in 11 tries in the 55-point drubbing, with flyhalf Hugh Roach and outside centre Chris Sautia grabbing a brace apiece.
Scotland managed consolation scores through wing Jamie Farndale and lock Andrew Redmayne.
Australia — Tries: Curtis Browning, James Dargaville, Nick Frisby, Jed Holloway, Silatolu Latu, Apo Latunipulu, Hugh Roach (2), Chris Sautia (2), Maile Ngauamo. Conversions: Kyle Godwin (4), UJ Seuteni (2)
Scotland — Tries: Jamie Farndale, Andrew Redmayne. Conversion: Harry Leonard.
Australia — 15 Nick Frisby, 14 James Dargaville, 13 Chris Sautia, 12 Apo Latunipulu, 11 Allan Faalavaau, 10 Kyle Godwin, 9 Matt Lucas, 8 Benn Melrose, 7 Liam Gill (c), 6 Curtis Browning, 5 Steven Cummins, 4 Jed Holloway, 3 Les Makin, 2 Hugh Roach, 1 Silatolu Latu.
Subs: 16 Maile Ngauamo, 17 Pettowa Paraka, 18 Sam Reiser, 19 Thomas Cusack, 20 Jock Merriman, 21 Con Foley. 22 UJ Seuteni, 23 Allan Alaalatoa.
Scotland — 15 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne, 14 Jamie Farndale, 13 Mark Bennett, 12 Finn Russell, 11 Mike Crawley, 10 Harry Leonard (c), 9 Matt Torrance, 8 Andrew Nagle, 7 Will Bordill, 6 Jamie Swanson, 5 Andrew Redmayne, 4 Mitch Eadie, 3 Alex Allan, 2 Fergus Scott, 1 Robin Hislop.
Subs: 16 George Turner, 17 Jamie Bhatti, 18 Gavin Robertson, 19 Adam Sinclair, 20 Alex Henderson, 21 Gary Graham, 22 Murray McConnell, 23 Tommy Allan.
WALES 44 (3), FIJI 18 (12), STELLENBOSCH
Wales delivered a strong second-half showing to record a 44-15 win over Fiji.
The Pacific Islanders led 12-5 at half-time as they physically dominated the European nation. The Kerevi brothers, wing Josua and inside centre Samu, crossed the chalk. Wales managed a penalty via flyhalf Sam Davies.
However, Wales played much better after the break as they ran in six unanswered tries in the final stanza to secure victory.
Wales — Tries: Cory Hill, Cory Allen, Darran Harris, Matthew Morgan, Daniel Thomas, Eli Walker. Conversions: Sam Davies, Morgan (3). Penalties: Davies (2).
Fiji — Tries: Josua Kerevi, Sam Kerevi. Conversion: Sakiusa Gavidi. Penalties: Tikilaci Vuibau (2).
Wales — 15 Ross Jones, 14 Eli Walker, 13 Jack Dixon, 12 Owen Williams, 11 Luke Morgan, 10 Sam Davies, 9 Jonathan Evans, 8 Dan Baker, 7 Daniel Thomas, 6 Luke Hamilton, 5 Matthew Screech, 4 Cory Hill (c), 3 Samson Lee, 2 Kirby Myhill, 1 Rob Evans.
Subs: 16 Darran Harris, 17 Gareth Thomas, 18 Will John, 19 Rhodri Hughes, 20 Ellis Jenkins, 21 Tom Habberfield, 22 Matthew Morgan, 23 Cory Allen.
Fiji — 15 Matayavusa Lea (c), 14 Josua Kerevi, 13 Sevanaia Galala, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Jimilai Rokoduru, 10 Michael Little, 9 Sakiusa Gavidi, Aca Simolo, 7 Ledua Ratumuri, 6 Joketani Raikabula, 5 Esikia Macu, 4 Temo Raibevu, 3 Alex Hodgman, 2 Jale Sassen, 1 Ratulame Lewanavanua.
16 Etuati Qadrodro, 17 Semi Keli, 18 Petero Tivitivi, 19 Sakeasi Kautoga, 20 Sitiveni Nawaqa, 21 Seru Cavuilati, 22 Timoci Seruwalu, 23 Tikilaci Vuibau.
ENGLAND 64 (24) ITALY 5 (5), BELLVILLE
U20 Six Nations champions England dominated European minnows Italy. They ran in nine tries via wing Josh Bassett, loosehead prop Luke Cowan-Dickie, scrumhalf Dan Robson, wing Marlande Yarde (2), reserve flyhalf Ryan Mills, replacement prop Kyle Sinckler, and centres Tom Heathecote and Sam Hill.
Italy grabbed a consolation try via wing Leonardo Sarto.
England – Tries: Josh Bassett, Luke Cowan-Dickie, Dan Robson, Marlande Yarde (2), Ryan Mills, Kyle Sinckler, Tom Heathecote, Sam Hill. Conversions: Henry Slade (4), Heathcote (4). Penalty: Slade.
Italy – Try: Leonardo Sarto.
England — 15 Charlie Walker, 14 Marland Yarde, 13 Sam Hill, 12 Tom Heathcote, 11 Josh Bassett, 10 Henry Slade, 9 Dan Robson, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Chris Walker (c), 6 Dave Sisi, 5 Dom Barrow, 4 Sam Twomey, 3 Ross Harrison, 2 Nathan Morris, 1 Luke Cowan-Dickie.
Subs: 16 Max Crumpton, 17 Alec Hepburn, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 George Merrick, 20 Jack Clifford, 21 Ben Spencer, 22 Ryan Mills, 23 Ben Ransom.
Italy — 15 Filippo Guarducci, 14 Alex Morsellino, 13 Michele Campagnaro, 12 Andrea Bettin, 11 Leonardo Sarto, 10 Edoardo Padovani, 9 Guido Calabrese, 8 Vittoria Marazzi, 7 Federico Conforti, 6 Ruben Riccioli, 5 Alfio Luca Mammana, 4 Matteo Ferro, 3 Leonardo Bortoletti, 2 Giovanni Maistri (c), 1 Sami Panico.
Subs: 16 Giovanni Scalvi, 17 Luca Scarsini, 18 Pietro Ceccarelli, 19 Marco Bellucci, 20 Jacopo Salvetti, 21 Marcello Violi, 22 John Apperley, 23 Giulio Bisegni.
NEW ZEALAND 63 (36) SAMOA 0 (0), STELLENBOSCH
Four-time champions New Zealand kicked off their title-defending campaign in fine fashion. They scored 10 tries in a strong attacking display, while they also restricted their Oceania neighbours Samoa to a scoreless tally.
Wing Milford Keresoma was the star of the show as grabbed a hat-trick, while speedster Ambrose Curtis and fullback Martin McKenzie also completed a brace each.
New Zealand committed several errors as they delivered an expansive game plan, but when they got things right, they looked very good with ball in hand.
New Zealand — Tries: Ambrose Curtis (2), Milford Keresoma (3), Rhys Marshall, Martin McKenzie (2), Nick Ross, Nathan Harris. Conversions: Ihaia West (4), Scott Eade. Penalty: West.
Samoa — none.
New Zealand — 15 Martin McKenzie, 14 Ambrose Curtis, 13 Jason Emery, 12 Pita Ahki, 11 Milford Keresoma, 10 Ihaia West, 9 Bryn Hall (c), 8 Jordan Taufua, 7 Jake Heenan, 6 Jimmy Tupou, 5 Joe Latta, 4 Nick Ross, 3 Fraser Armstrong, 2 Rhys Marshall, 1 Tuki Raimona
Subs: 16 Nathan Harris, 17 Eric Sione, 18 Ofa Tu’ungafasi, 19 Glenn Preston, 20 Hugh Blake, 21 Jono Kitto, 22 Scott Eade, 23 Marnus Hanley.
Samoa — 15 Fomai Ah Ki, 14 Fale Iosefa, 13 Toetu David, 12 Lomitusi Ulu, 11 Jason Tagiilina, 10 Potoae Sasagi, 9 Faatafa Maiava, 8 Elekana Laupola, 7 Elia Togitele, 6 Risati Faamatuainu, 5 Tumama Tu’ulua, 4 Tofatuimoana Solia, 3 Andrew Broomhall, 2 Ropeti Lafo (c), 1 Aniseto Sio.
Subs: 16 Raymond Salu, 17 Petelo Masei, 18 Alex Iosefa, 19 Airi Hunt, 20 Oneone Fa’afou, 21 Vavao Afemai, 22 Utu Poliko, 23 Peter Schuster.
FRANCE 15 ARGENTINA 18, BELLVILLE
Argentina produced the second big comeback win of the day.
After trailing 15-5 at the break, the Pumitas scored two tries via inside centre Juan Cappiello and Leandro Ramella, while flyhalf Sebastian Poet added two penalties and a conversion. This was enough for the three-point win.
France scored all their points through the boot of scrumhalf Eric Escande.
Argentina — Tries: Juan Cappiello, Leandro Ramella. Conversion: Sebastian Poet. Penalties: Poet (2).
France — Penalties: Eric Escande (5).
France — 15 Theo Platon, 14 Yohann Artru, 13 Jimmy Yobo, 12 Jonathan Danty, 11 Bastien Fuster, 10 Enzo Selponi, 9 Eric Escande, 8 Karl Chateau (c), 7 Kelian Galletier, 6 Alexandre Derrien, 5 Paul Jedrasiak, 4 Bastien Chalureau, 3 Pascal Cotet, 2 Raphael Carbou, 1 Sebastien Taofifenua.
Subs: 16 Jean Charles Fidinde, 17 Florian Fresia, 18 Jefferson Poirot, 19 Pierre Gayraud, 20 Jonathan Laugel, 21 Etienne Quiniou, 22 Clement Otazo, 23 Vincent Martin.
Argentina — 15 Satiago Cordero, 14 Felipe Nougues, 13 Juan Ignacio Brex, 12 Juan Cappiello, 11 Ramiro Finco, 10 Sebastian Poet (c), 9 Felipe Ezcurra, 8 Facundo Isa, 7 Pable Matera, 6 Gaspar Oberti, 5 Juan Cruz Guillemain, 4 Leandro Ramella, 3 Matias Diaz, 2 Santiago Iglesias, 1 Santiago Garcia Botta
Subs: 16 Matias Sambran, 17 German Lefort, 18 Mariano Sanchez, 19 Rodrigo Parada Heit, 20 Rodolfo Ambrosio, 21 Joaquin Paz, 22 Gonzalo Ruiz, 23 Lautaro Casado.
SOUTH AFRICA 19 (3) IRELAND 23 (13), STELLENBOSCH
Ireland delivered a devastating blow to the Baby Boks’ Junior World Championship title hopes with a big win at Danie Craven Stadium. And Dawie Theron’s men deserved to lose.
There was a lack of initiative and skill in the hosts’ performance, they were dominated at the set-pieces for most parts of the game, and they were errant on attack and the breakdown.
Conversely, Ireland had the upper hand at the collisions, which gained them the overall ascendancy. Flyhalf JJ Hanrahan was pivotal with the boot, and kicked 13 points to help clinch the win.
Ireland grabbed both their tries through Baby Bok errors – flank Jordan Coghlan crashed over after flyhalf Tony Jantjies’ clearance was charged down, and fellow loose forward Conor Gilsenan powered through after a similar mistake following a restart.
A Paul Willemse try and Jantjies’ boot gave their team some hope in the second stanza, but they failed to convert late try-scoring chances to avoid defeat.
South Africa — Try: Paul Willemse. Conversion: Tony Jantjies. Penalty: Jantjies (4).
Ireland — Try: Jordan Coghlan, Conor Gilsenan. Conversion: JJ Hanrahan (2). Penalty: Hanrahan. Drop Goal: Hanrahan.
South Africa — 15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Paul Jordaan, 13 Pat Howard, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Raymond Rhule, 10 Tony Jantjies, 9 Abrie Griesel, 8 Fabian Booysen, 7 Wiaan Liebenberg (c), 6 Shaun Adendorff, 5 Pieter Steph du Toit, 4 Paul Willemse, 3 Allan Dell, 2 Mark Pretorius, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Jason Thomas, 17 Oliver Kebble, 18 Ruan Botha, 19 Braam Steyn, 20 Vian van der Watt, 21 Handrè Pollard, 22 Tshotsho Mbovane, 23 Maks van Dyk.
Ireland — 15 Peter Nelson, 14 Barry Daly, 13 Foster Horan, 12 Chris Farrell, 11 Sam Coghlan-Murray, 10 JJ Hanrahan, 9 Kieran Marmion, 8 Jack Conan, 7 Conor Gilsenan, 6 Jordan Coghlan, 5 Iain Henderson, 4 Tadhg Beirne, 3 Tadhg Furlong, 2 Nial Scannell (c), 1 Des Merry.
Subs: 16 James Rael, 17 Peter Reilly, 18 Jake Cawley, 19 Alan O’Connor, 20 Aaron Conneely, 21 Luke McGrath, 22 Jack Carty, 23 Mikey Sherlock.
95 Comments
4 Jun 2012, 14:06 pm
go baby bokke
you are good enough….
4 Jun 2012, 14:06 pm
Junior Dragons,
Should be a great show.
You Saffas enjoy.
4 Jun 2012, 14:08 pm
We’ll call that a draw Brigadier.
4 Jun 2012, 14:27 pm
@cane(cane)-3: Cane any noteworthy players in the Baby Blacks side? (I presume there are but names are not familiar)
4 Jun 2012, 15:06 pm
Who in Sam Hill is the 13 for England?
4 Jun 2012, 15:58 pm
Go KleinBokke…!!
Time to end the KiwiChicks domination of this comp…!!
4 Jun 2012, 16:00 pm
Looking forward to seeing Oliver Kebble on the park and what he can do…
Has got great press recently… let’s hope he lives up to it!!
4 Jun 2012, 16:18 pm
Chris Suatia-Wallaby 13 looks a very very good prospect…Big,strong,powerful and has very good skills, 18 yrs old.
Lions couldnt handle him in superrugby,scored on his first touch
4 Jun 2012, 17:08 pm
The aussies almost have as many pacific island names as the kiwis now…who almost have as many as samoa.
Of course you can never be sure when names like Schuster, Schwalger and Speight are all good pacific names
4 Jun 2012, 17:11 pm
What a silky skills there by Baby Blacks on try No4.
And even Brosnihan’s (that should be him on supersports) voice does not sound rasping for a change.
4 Jun 2012, 17:13 pm
@gonzo(gonzo)-9: Lol, Schuster is all good German name.
4 Jun 2012, 19:16 pm
these baby boks are seeing flames!
I wonder what dawie will blame now because quotas are not an excuse…
4 Jun 2012, 19:25 pm
Wow the baby boks are clueless – terrible !! Aussie, Nzl and England, even Ireland are in a different class to the bumbling baby boks
4 Jun 2012, 19:26 pm
@Nils(Nils)-10:
For a moment there, I thought you said silky skills by the Baby Boks, and wondered whether we were watching the same game;-) Ireland is way better than the Bokkies thus far.
4 Jun 2012, 19:27 pm
Irish threaten to put a killer blow on overall attendance figures.
4 Jun 2012, 19:28 pm
Take off the #9
4 Jun 2012, 19:29 pm
Our 9 is very very k@k
4 Jun 2012, 19:30 pm
@Thucydides(Thucydides)-14: Hehe, Baby Boks and try No4 in the same sentence?
On a serious note, Baby Boks will be mighty relieved for just a win there. Sofar, it looks a coach will have to invent a motivation speech which can be burned into CDs and sold worldwide.
4 Jun 2012, 19:33 pm
Tony Jantjies needs to do something as well. That Griesel and Jantjies….they are one cr@p combo.
4 Jun 2012, 19:36 pm
@Nils(Nils)-18:
Ja, your reference to “try no4″ was what convinced me I must have read the sentence wrong;-)
Maybe they can turn it around, still, against the Oirish. But even with a motivation speech written by Cicero himself, I can’t quite see how these Baby Boks will be able to beat the Baby Blacks.
4 Jun 2012, 19:42 pm
Man that 9 is poor…
4 Jun 2012, 19:43 pm
Very dissapointing! I have been waiting for this game, and was hoping to be dazzled by our young talent. I must say they don’t look very inspiring at all. No clever footwork, no good passing. Just rubbish kicking and bashing it up. The future of our rugby looks very bleak from this display… I would say we will be lucky to come 5th in this competition this year from the game so far!
4 Jun 2012, 19:45 pm
What the hell is Dawie thinking, he’s doing subs but keeps the guy that is costing us on the field.
4 Jun 2012, 19:47 pm
Really disappointing! Ireland look way better in terms of skill and physicality…
Junior rugby not as good as I thought
4 Jun 2012, 19:48 pm
@Thucydides(Thucydides)-20: There’s plenty of time and why not, as soon as Boks score a try, half of the work will be done.
As for Blacks, let’s worry about them when Boks are about to meet them. While for me they are clear favourites to win again with a clean sheet, I would not take any upcoming game as granted. Blacks themselves have to reach the semis yet.
4 Jun 2012, 19:50 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-23:
The scrumhalf is very weak! Where does he come from?
4 Jun 2012, 19:51 pm
Baby Boks score at last.
4 Jun 2012, 19:56 pm
little leprechauns bullying the bigger physical specimens.Its not how big u are but how smart,strong and determined u can be.
4 Jun 2012, 19:58 pm
jantjies looks like that fish in a sharks tale
4 Jun 2012, 20:00 pm
how can this Theron pick Jantjies baby boetie and this Griesel dude at scrum half.. don’t these coaches know entire game plan rests with the half backs once forwards done their job?
4 Jun 2012, 20:04 pm
jantjies equals the score after the duvenhage clone is taken off
4 Jun 2012, 20:06 pm
should have given it to jantjies.scrumhalves must stop with this kak duvenhage box kicks
4 Jun 2012, 20:07 pm
I hate this stupid long pod at the back of the ruck that SA teams do? The kick still gets charged down and Ireland score. The IRB sld ban this pod it is so pathetic
4 Jun 2012, 20:07 pm
this boxkick kak is tye bane of our rugby existence! all our scrummys want to do it & they are sh.it at it.
4 Jun 2012, 20:08 pm
stronger midgets better than weak giants
4 Jun 2012, 20:09 pm
midget rips ball away from weakling 200kg prop
4 Jun 2012, 20:10 pm
@&#^ing #*@&ing idiots, our boys are piss poor. They must feel proud playing for their country.
4 Jun 2012, 20:11 pm
I thought these laaities go to the best schools in SA.Dont they learn anything there or is this the kak that they are taught.
there parents should save their money and send them to public schools
4 Jun 2012, 20:13 pm
jantjies into the corner. a florida park special
4 Jun 2012, 20:14 pm
How do u lose a lineout to leprechauns
4 Jun 2012, 20:17 pm
As ons hier kom moet ons daar hardloopi al staan tien mense voor my mentality.
You can actually coach a player until his retarded its been proven again tonight
4 Jun 2012, 20:20 pm
F#ck SA players are dumb f#ks, bash it up and always pick and drive until they lose the ball. Btw – this so-called super star Jordaan from the sharks is having a nightmare game
4 Jun 2012, 20:24 pm
Eish, Paul Jordaan is super-k@k.
4 Jun 2012, 20:24 pm
Dawie Theron is a pathetic coach and as dumb as 2 planks and a half brick ! Fire the quota ******** coach. I’d rather hv PDV coach the baby boks !
4 Jun 2012, 20:25 pm
Why the hell did that hooker stay on for that long??
4 Jun 2012, 20:25 pm
Huge upset, congrats, Irish, they were tenacious bast*rds, while Boks – diabolical, sorry for their loyal fans.
Who would have thought, high hopes and campaign basically over after 80 mins.
4 Jun 2012, 20:26 pm
No heart and as always our agegroup teams look poorly coached. Locks not knowing their own linout calls???
Theron kak yet again.
4 Jun 2012, 20:26 pm
Shaun Adendorff and maybe Jan Serfontein to a lesser extent the only ones who can hold their heads high.
Pathetic.
4 Jun 2012, 20:27 pm
At least i learnt something tonight if you get quick ruck ball you move in the same direction, thats the rule even if the opposition knows it too
4 Jun 2012, 20:27 pm
And some on this site wanted Venter to head the Boks. Our backs had no idea.
4 Jun 2012, 20:28 pm
Wiaan Liebenberg definitely not in the same league as his predecessors, Arno Botha & CJ Stander.
4 Jun 2012, 20:28 pm
how do u stop a south african on a rugby field?
stand in front of him hell run into you
4 Jun 2012, 20:29 pm
Man, I actually far prefer seeing Eric Sauls’s teams, even with his hectic bulls bias, to this poorly coached team. At least they came 3rd consecutively and showed imagination and skills in games.
This bok team is embarrassing. When players who look class for their super rugby teams look **** here you can’t look much further than the coaching.
And that starting scrumhalf was absolutely terrible.
When Bob Skinstad is actually having a go at you on national television you know you’ve had a **** game.
4 Jun 2012, 20:30 pm
those scrummies are really k a k. its the mindset of the youngsters they think they better than they really are, they think if they just show up they will dominate.
4 Jun 2012, 20:31 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-38:
oh please, stop talking kak.
that irish backrow is absolutely huge and so are their backs.
our 9′s are complete kakak
4 Jun 2012, 20:33 pm
Like I’ve been saying, rugby in Ireland has become popular, the age grades are getting better and better.
What’s with all this midget stuff, the Irish pack were 10 kg heavier than the boks.
4 Jun 2012, 20:34 pm
there is a real insight here in how to damage northern hemisphere sides.
you need to move the ball from side to side.
ironically, what sides generally do to us.
the nh sides flood the breakdown with a slightly different interpretation and timing applied by nh refs.
i liked the look of our backs (except the 9′s) but 1-8 really need to pull their fingers right out or they will get damaged at the breakdown every time.
4 Jun 2012, 20:41 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-57:
It’s tragic that even with the pace out wide that the Baby Boks have, and the fact that they were being monstered on the ground, no one thought to los these up-and-unders and send the ball out wide.
4 Jun 2012, 20:42 pm
Pfffft. Our coaching and selection seems to be the achilles heel of our rugby at all levels. Brainless, dull, unimaginative and overhyped bunch of players coached by some relic from the stone ages.
4 Jun 2012, 20:44 pm
Do I have it right to say that if Ireland win all their games we are going to be out of the JWC playoffs?
4 Jun 2012, 20:47 pm
Every Junior tournament seems to produce the same inept performance from the Baby Boks. Seems to flow from convergence of poor coaching (line out call confusion, too much kicking, much of it poor – was the box kick the No 9s own idea, back-play lacked any cohesion); poor skills / decision making (too many players going on their own, poor, non-existent ball retention and numerous handling errors). Team selection, if both No 9s were the best we have then at that level God help us. Saw Kolisi in last tournament and thought he had a shocker against England but he is now a different player so must be down to the coaching. SARU need to pull heads out of asses, we are a laughing stock.
4 Jun 2012, 20:48 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-60:
don’t know how it works…..don’t 2 sides from each group qualify?
4 Jun 2012, 20:53 pm
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-62:
The top team from every pool goes through.
After that the team that finished 2nd in any of the pools with the highest points difference will go through as the 4th qualifier.
At this stage, I doubt we’ve got a hope in hell of going through. Ireland would have to beat England, which I don’t think they will do, and then we’d need to THRASH Italy to even come close, not to mention beat England which we shouldn’t be capable of doing either.
4 Jun 2012, 20:59 pm
Best if we don’t go through which will prompt a rethink about the whole approach at this level which is deficient to say the least.
4 Jun 2012, 21:04 pm
little fcukin leprechauns bullying and outsmarting the cream of the ” top ” rugby schools in SA.
Pathetic retarded coaches breeding retarded rugby players.
moenie vergeet nie ons skop in ons twee en twintig
4 Jun 2012, 21:09 pm
Baby Blacks looked all class especially their backs. Our backs at all levels generally don’t run into space and drift yet the All Blacks continue to produce creative thinking backs: Carter, Dagg, Nonu, Fruen, Taylor …. The list is endless. We need at schoolboy level to be encouraging creativity and stop coaching backs to run over the opposition as opposed to running between the opposition
4 Jun 2012, 21:13 pm
Come on SA U/20 and Coach Theron and Co.!!!
This outcome is shameful!!! We have a proud rugby history and we have some of the best, of not the best rugby players in the world, and we dish up THIS drivel!!!
My U/20 World Cup is officially over!! I will not put myself through this nonsense. The All Blacks will take this tournament again.
I’m not often in favour of dropping a coach when a team does badly, but in this case Theron needs to go and be replaced by someone who can actually coach!!
Disgusting!!
4 Jun 2012, 21:17 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-65:
Again, this Ireland team were physically bigger than the babyboks, what part of that do you not undertand? Are you stupid?
4 Jun 2012, 21:25 pm
What a waste of a little trip to the stadium to watch this “Bigger is Better and stronger” philosophy get blown out of the water once again. With all respect, the closest Dawie Theron should come to the name ‘coach’ is when he is piled onto an Intercape coach back to Kimberley (Brendan Venter can hike back to Somerset West – it’s close enough). Like I said this morning, if there is no rugby intelligence buried in the biceps, triceps and abs – all that muscle means sh y te. That team of kids just looked utterly clueless out there (and there are some criminally talented kids in the setup) – not a flicker of creativity, just a pod of little robots with an empty playbook. As for that little Bulls scrumhalf – Griesel, sorry chap, an embarrassment – Fourie du Preez he will never be, contrary to what he might think. KUK KUK KUK. Replacement not much better. Anyone who wondered why Kitshoff and Jordaan didn’t want to leave their franchises for this – wonder no more. This has put a damper on the whole tournament, and I just hope people continue to support it. I will, but I will be enjoying the flair of the French, the skill of the Kiwis, the heart of the Irish and the abandon of the Italians and Argies. The Baby Boks and their ‘I’m gonna donner you ****, move outta my way ek se’ gameplan died a slow death this evening: RIP (Just hope the senior Boks took note……)
And anyone wanting to defend Theron, don’t bother. Last year he has the finest talent in SA, Kolisi, Stander, Carr, Etsebeth, Jordaan etc etc etc, and he fluffed it. This year he had camps and games and camps and games and warmups and buy in from the Superugby franchises AND:he bombs more dramatically than last year. Very p # s s ed off right now.
4 Jun 2012, 21:25 pm
Thank God we did not play against England, Australia or New Zealand today. It would have been embarrassing!
Very disappointing game from our side. The scrummie was the weakest link. But overall the team did not play well the lineouts were a shambles and the backline looked disorganised with little or no game plan.
4 Jun 2012, 21:27 pm
If our forwards don’t dominate, and we don’t have a # 10 that keeps us down in the opposition’s half of the field, we lose. That’s become the story of SA rugby from schoolboy rugby right to the top.
4 Jun 2012, 21:28 pm
Totally lame outcome – whenver we did egt possession we just kicked it back at them and that doff scrumhalf boxkicking every time he touched the ball and effing it up every time – honestly – as lame as can be – error riddled performance from start to finish and the forwards were woeful – the only one playing well they took off after half time – Kitshoff. What was that? Those lighties all need a kalp on the head for disgracing themselves and capitluating so easily. They fought in patches but not good enough by a long shot.
Utter rubbish and yes I think a lot of that had to do with extremely **** coaching. One error after another and one brainfart after another – inexscusable at this level. where was Paul Jordaan?
4 Jun 2012, 21:29 pm
didnt look like the same player who has been busting tackles at the sharks? Am I missing something? The guy on the field today looked like a midget.
4 Jun 2012, 21:30 pm
Abrie Griesel – hang up your togs now!
4 Jun 2012, 22:39 pm
NZ is the top rugby nation on earth. By miles. In every form of the game.
4 Jun 2012, 22:50 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-75: wow i agree with you and the rugby players even *** from bullshit schools and heavy drinking dysfunctional families yet they consistently beat our clever private schooled spoilt brats.
4 Jun 2012, 22:52 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-75: Have to agree there – they are just streets ahead of everyone else – the Ozzies have their moments too but none are as well trained and play with a true appreciation of the game on a consistent basis through all levels – Juniors, Seniors, Sevens the lot. What I can not fathom, for the life of me, is that we seem to be incapable of looking at them and learning. No shame in that. But we are bullish about our insistence on “playing to our strengfs ekse” – big okes trying to walk over other big okes – somewhere in the last 30 years the other teams okes also got big and got very good at defending so its simply not possible to walk over them anymore.
Secondly if you dont have possession you cant win the effing game – if we continue to kick and kick and kick and kick and bloody well kick we are never going to be top dawgs. Look at the moronoic Juniors today – one boxkick after another – charged down kicks, bad kicks, directly out kicks, kicks gifting possession, kicking for kickings sake kick kick kick. FFS. When is someone going to switch on a video of a New Zealand game and just analyse why the hell they play so well. Comeon man. can we really be that clueless?
4 Jun 2012, 22:52 pm
we breed them big in the north.no irish lad could possibly b bigger or better than the dinosaurs u find in tshwane.
4 Jun 2012, 22:54 pm
@Slumtown(Slumtown)-77:
yeah we can.. we ARE really THAT clueless.. has it not dawned on you how clueless we are YET..!?
4 Jun 2012, 22:55 pm
@Slumtown(Slumtown)-77: now u just have to get most of tshwane and the coaches to buy into your rant and youve solved the crisis in sa rugby.
4 Jun 2012, 22:56 pm
@Slumtown(Slumtown)-77:
Somebody told me here yesterday its all in the DNA.. and they actually believe it.. that’s how absolutely clueless they still remain.. yet.
4 Jun 2012, 23:04 pm
@louis schropnel(louis shrapnel)-81: lol
I hear you. It is enough to make you want to whack yourself on the head with a log. Dom donderse domkrag. Which makes Heinkes selections even more irritating. Kolisi plays clever as well as tough, Aplon has an attacking brain, so does de Jongh, Ebersohn has been the best 13 all season and plays with rugby acumen, Joe Pietersen has been magnificent. Yet all ominously left out for more big guys with the exception of Keegan.
5 Jun 2012, 00:02 am
Reading these blogs,I get the impression many have the impression that the European teams are a bunch of softies.I support Richmond,who have just got promotion to’Division One’ in England. This is really the third division. Two of our players are in the England Under 20. Believe me, these guys are big, tough and fast. They moer each other just as much as the South African teams.
South Africa will not just roll England over as you all seem to think.
I support the Springboks when they come to Twickenham, as I’m SA born and bred,but less arrogance and self delusion please.
As for the current selection-dumb.
5 Jun 2012, 00:14 am
@papashanga(papashanga)-83: I agree.
5 Jun 2012, 00:16 am
@Slumtown(Slumtown)-82: Have to say Robert Ebershohn next to Francois Steyn would be a very, very good combination. In every way.
5 Jun 2012, 05:59 am
Unfortunately SA rugby will never evolve as it is dominated by ‘moer hulle’ Afrika@ns boneheads (like Heyneke and Dawie Theron) who select brawn over brains everytime. If you take this type of(Bulls) player on physically. They fold and have no plan B
5 Jun 2012, 06:10 am
Voortrekker Rugby is what Bok fans can look forward to for the next 4 years…
5 Jun 2012, 06:15 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-87:
as oppossed to circus rugby the past 4 years?……….not sure which is worse, except the one has failed and the other has not yet been given a chance?
5 Jun 2012, 06:16 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-86:
Doos comment!
5 Jun 2012, 06:27 am
@Whatever – Look – I’ll give HM a chance but I don’t like his selections at all.. He has overlooked more talented players and put Bulls in the team. That is not fitting for a national coach.
BTW – Zane is set to start @ 15, how does that make u feel?
5 Jun 2012, 06:37 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-90:
Makes me want to puke, but still I will give him a chance. If (when?
) he fails then it’s fair game.
5 Jun 2012, 06:51 am
I am surprised Bok schools team tries to play the same kind of footy as the Bokjs side. Having Matfield, Botha, Smit etc bully guys is one thing but expecting kids to do it & a 19 yr old 10 to play the up & under game is just dumb.
I have seen schoolboys play in Durbin & they played with width, skill & enthusiasm. I don’t get trying to stifle that…
There seems to be this transvaal mentality to bully everyone, what about the coasters running game? The stormers are playing Crusaders rugby circa 1999. The cheetahs & sharks are the only ones breaking the line & using big loosies in continuity play.
Will HM try to change any of this stuff?
As a kiwi I hope he doesn’t, but as a rugby fan I hope he does.
5 Jun 2012, 07:02 am
@Manona(Manona)-92:
“As a kiwi I hope he doesn’t, but as a rugby fan I hope he does’” EXACTLY
5 Jun 2012, 08:18 am
If we dont progress to the next round Dawie must be fired. They can make PDV coach of the U/20 seeing that he has achieved winning a trophy with a previous age group team.
5 Jun 2012, 14:30 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-75: Oh yes and they can shoot fireballs from their arses as well!
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