Boks reel in Pietersen
18 Jun 2012
The Springboks have called up Stormers fullback Joe Pietersen ahead of the third and final Test against England this weekend.
Pietersen will provide fullback cover as Zane Kirchner (knee) and Pat Lambie (ankle) struggle with injuries. Utility back Frans Steyn is also not available for the Test in PE as he’ll be getting married on Saturday.
Pietersen, who had been struggling with a back injury, had been given the all clear by the Western Province medical team to join the national squad on Monday.
‘Joe has always been part of our plans and also attended our final planning camp in Durban shortly before the England series started,’ said Bok coach Heyneke Meyer.
‘Injuries are part of the game and something you can’t plan for, but we always knew Frans was not going to be available for this Test. Joe knows our systems and game plans and I’m sure he will slot in easily.’
Flank Willem Alberts (knee) and Lambie, the two players who suffered injuries in the second Test last weekend, underwent scans on Monday morning. They have not yet been ruled out of the Test and a further decision on their availability will be made by Wednesday.
Lock Juandre Kruger, who was stretchered off at Ellis Park, was running freely at training.
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18 Jun 2012, 18:49 pm
Bok bench is not up to the task as far as the heavies are concerned.
18 Jun 2012, 18:54 pm
@Puma(Puma)-98: actually scary how us two think alike when it comes to rugby lol
18 Jun 2012, 19:03 pm
As mentioned in an earlier post, I cannot see any viable reason for Little Joe being called up. After Aplon was called up in any case (IMO, SA’s most destructive broken field runner).
With Heyneke seemingly favouring a 4/3 split on the bench, there’s probably no place for both Aplon and Basson in the match 22, as they’re quite similar – depending whether Aplon starts or plays from the bench, with NikNaks in @ 15.
Therefore, bench cover will probably look like this;
20. Pienaar
21. JJ
22. Aplon
Alternatively, if Aplon gets a starting spot;
20. Pienaar
21. JJ
22. Basson
JJ being there as midfield cover @ 13 incase Timotei is having a bad hair day.
18 Jun 2012, 20:20 pm
What IF Timotei has a blinder – 5+ clean line breaks, 2 tries, tackles to k@k out of Tualigi and win MOTM award ?? Scary thought but possible…. Then what??
18 Jun 2012, 20:21 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-55: That is such nonsense. He’s a brilliant attacking player.
18 Jun 2012, 20:29 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-104: Even if he does he is 2nd behind Frans in the HM bok pekking order
18 Jun 2012, 20:41 pm
@Pot Blou Gevaar(Pot Blou Gevaar)-103: Niknaks! lol’
Good one – I remember the ad now
18 Jun 2012, 23:13 pm
With Danny Care to play 9 England will be even stronger
However I think HM must bring in Juan De Jongh!
He can play 12 / 13 and him and De Villiers know eachother well
Also De Jongh will take Tuilagi’s legs out and you can say that De Villiers hasn’t been run over at 13 the past few weeks
Only Sonny Bill, Rougerie, Frans Steyn and Jamie Roberts can deal with Tuilagi
My backline:
15 Gio Aplon
14 JP Pietersen
13 Juan De Jongh
12 Jean De Villiers
11 Bryan Habana
10 Morne Steyn (SHOULD BE PETER GRANT OR JANTJES)
9 Francois Hougaard
20 Jano Vermaak
21 Joe Pietersen
22 Bjorn Basson
19 Jun 2012, 00:44 am
@Pot Blou Gevaar(Pot Blou Gevaar)-103:
I think place kicking cover may be the reason for calling up Joe instead of Aplon? With Morne kicking badly, and Lambie in doubt, abnd Frans Steyn jolling, we need a place kicker.
19 Jun 2012, 02:36 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-104: Extensive drug tests.
19 Jun 2012, 04:36 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-104:
Then we wake up and all have a good laugh…the silly things we dream!
PS For me it would be great as the Meyer obviously likes the fella so I prefer him to be great rather than making me pull my hair out.
PPS But I am not holding my breath…
19 Jun 2012, 07:38 am
My back line for Saturday only: i.e. if Lambie is injured
15: Joe Pietersen
14. JJ Englebracht
13. JP Pietersen
12. Jean De Villiers
11. Brian Habana
10. Morne Steyn
9. Francois Hougaard
19 Jun 2012, 09:01 am
Hahahah…dreaming Timotei will double up his try scoring for the boks is very funny….how many tries has he scored in how many tests now?
19 Jun 2012, 09:02 am
@Pot Blou Gevaar(Pot Blou Gevaar)-103: Could it maybe due to backup for kicking duties ?
19 Jun 2012, 09:19 am
@Hoops(Hoops)-113: 1 try in 36 tests.
19 Jun 2012, 09:44 am
This news is not going to sit well with our resident dumbass on this site. Especially since his ‘donkey de Villiers’ is also playing well.
19 Jun 2012, 10:32 am
Wanna know ho good Joe is. Compare him to Dagg, Beale, Halfpenny, Kearney, Fodan. That’s how “good” he is. Will never be able to hold down a starting spot, so the investment won’t yield any real returns. Once Lambie, Kirchner and Taute are fit, it’s tickets for Joe. More of an emo selection from the WP stormers supporters because it conjours up memories of Percy in the G&G.
19 Jun 2012, 10:44 am
@Hoops(Hoops)-113:
All this talk about WO not scoring tries… We also have wonder child Lambie with about 15 caps and no tries???
19 Jun 2012, 10:59 am
@pompies2(pompies2)-117:
“More of an emo selection from the WP stormers supporters….”
So what you are saying is that HM is picking JP just because of some rants from some WP fans.
Seriously?
You obviously dont rate HM at all then if you think he is so easily influenced?
Do you engage your brain when you type?
19 Jun 2012, 11:08 am
@Stawm(Stawm)-119: Did you even read what i typed? I mean properly read it with comprehension. I did not even mention HM’s name. And you response kinda confirms my emo statement. You’ve got your man knickers in a bunch so quickly. Don’t worry though, Joe will play a test. It’s won’t be very long, so you’ll have to knock one out very quickly.
19 Jun 2012, 11:08 am
I rewatched that 2nd half. Wynand and Morne did the exact same thing with Tuilagi as Frans and Morne. They gang tackled him and he didn’t gain ground. Happened two or three times.
19 Jun 2012, 11:16 am
@pompies2(pompies2)-120:
OK, I read it again.
Heres your line:
“More of an emo selection from the WP stormers supporters because it conjours up memories of Percy in the G&G.”
So explain when I misunderstand it please?
Are you saying WP supporters had a role in this selection? If you answer yes, then you are severely undermining HM’s abilities.
Simple as that.
19 Jun 2012, 11:31 am
@Stawm(Stawm)-122: All i’m saying is that WP\Stormers supporters are really punting for his selection. I don’t suggest HM bowed to the pressure. Truth be told, he’s not test quality and the Boks had enough cover in the squad.
I don’t jump on the anti-HM bandwagon. He’s got enough trophies and accolades to prove he’s got the ability. Does that mean i can’t disagree with some of the things he does? Hell no.
19 Jun 2012, 11:36 am
Joe P selection makes no sense as there are Pienaar,Aplon,Basson who can cover 15,even Morne has played 15for Boks. Would have called up de Jongh who covers both 12/13 at international level with Fransie unavailable.Plus he has been more successful at international level that Timotei.lord forbid now we shall be subjected to Morne drift/crab switch pass with Olivier landing them behind advantage line as telegraphed as anything.Frans Steyn gets away with it sum what due to his superior size but even with him it’s been large,y ineffective.Sa needs better set up moves in midfield,the switch play is not good enough. Bringing in wingers in at first phase/pivot and 10 to loop or shift to create space while putting pressure on looses to pay attention to winger coming in-ala Guilford/Savea for Nz is one way of variation.
JJ Engelbrecht has no business being in Boks squad yet and if he’s cover for midfield yeeesh…..
19 Jun 2012, 11:41 am
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-124: That’s utopian Mshini. As long long as the size obsession is around, creativity to compensate for the lack of size will be stifled. I don’t think the Bok brains trust think 1st phase is the most dangerous platform from which to launch attacks. To them, it seems 1st phase is an enabler to build phase play which would hopefully lead to a defensive mismatch ore defensive lapse.
19 Jun 2012, 11:48 am
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-124: Joe P selection makes no sense as there are Pienaar,Aplon,Basson who can cover 15
Basson? Nah mate.
19 Jun 2012, 11:55 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-126: meyer said basson has been tried there for the bulls but maybe it was at training because i don’t recall basson @ 15 – but hey i don’t watch all bulls games so ja…
19 Jun 2012, 11:57 am
126 Sasuke
Basson started his career as a 15 and he is probably the best high ball specialist in the country.add the OTHER options I added of Pienaar,Aplon and JPP there are more than enough
No need for JoeP no matter how u look at it. Pienaar has been on top form with his boot throughout European season and he a better kicker than Joe P so you can Los that reasoning too.
19 Jun 2012, 11:57 am
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-124: eita sbali, ayisabonani!
ngiyabona ukuthi imali iyangena manje umatasatasa uthenga iyibiliboco nama lamborghini
19 Jun 2012, 11:59 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-129: don’t skinner man. how would you like it if i spoke english? i bet you’d struggle because it’s not you mother tongue.
19 Jun 2012, 12:03 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-130: no skinner man, just greeting the man in his mother tongue.
19 Jun 2012, 12:04 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-124:
Agreed.
With De Jongh unfortunately not there, and Joe P (unfortunately) there, the best way I see the guys lining up is;
09. Hougaard
10. Morne
11. Habs
12. Timotei
13. DiV
14. JPP
15. Aplon
Benched;
20. Pienaar (covers halfbacks).
21. JJ (midfield, wings), still would prefer JdJ in the mix.
22. Lil’ Joe (FB, and at a pinch can take aim at the sticks with ‘Nerves-of-steel’ Pienaar)
That’s all she wrotes for this Sat I’m afraid.
19 Jun 2012, 12:04 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-130: eish, my comprehension is moer toe hahaha
19 Jun 2012, 12:08 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-131: that’s one moers long greeting. is that what ‘howsit bru’ translates to? yu! yu! yu!
19 Jun 2012, 12:15 pm
Transie129
Hahaha ngiyafisa sbali! Kodwa hhay umuntu uyaphanta,ngimatasatasa impela nizama yona leyomali engekho.Bengithi angivele ngisho okuncane.Lamabhokobhomo adlala iPattern enginyanyayo,manner futhi nathi abanandaba bazodlala inyongo.
19 Jun 2012, 12:20 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-123:
OK, I put it down to a misunderstanding then. No problem.
Thing is, some Stormers supporters are calling for JP. Some arent.
MOST are behind HM, theres no doubt about that.
19 Jun 2012, 12:27 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-128: Yes that is fine and true but how is his kicking? and positioning? Rather Pienaar at 15 than Basson. atleast it is in his blood.
19 Jun 2012, 12:32 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-134: lol
19 Jun 2012, 12:34 pm
@Pot Blou Gevaar(Pot Blou Gevaar)-132: Is Elton Jantjies in the squad? I would put Elton on the bench and give him so game time. If Morne stuffs up the kicking Elton can come on.
19 Jun 2012, 12:41 pm
137 Sasuke
In his blood???hahaha yesses what a criteria for selection,nothing quantitative about that but ooooookkkkkk…..
19 Jun 2012, 12:54 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-139:
He is.
Question is then, at who’se expense?
I suppose JJ, as both Habs and JPP can do a job in the 2nd stanza @ 13. Though not ideally, but it would be nice to see Elton getting game time.
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