Dominating the tackle is a different story alltogether, if we can indeed agree on a definition of “dominate”.

Can Olivier dominate the tackle point?

A more useful stat would not be the absolute amount of tackles performed by a player, but rather the meters conceded in the tackle by that player.

There is no such stat at the moment.

I see you are trying to talking logically to our resident DUMBASS. Dont you realize just how dumb he really is? All his posts are quite simply gutter talk with strong homosexual undertones.
He cant help it. He is dumb as mud.

So I think he is solid and dependable with other qualities like good team player and not an international try scoring machine.

Oh he is also uber hot with a fab bod

Jamie Roberts with his 2 tries in 30 matches is poles apart from Timotei in terms of aptitude for Test rugby!

Get that through your thick skull HG.

I agree and if you ask any of the naysayers who have the most to say about all the Bulls and Sharks in the team they either avoid answering or come back with some minor changes. He did great given the time he had and we will only see the real way forward when the S15 finishes.

I think HM may surprise a few come the championship.

You are entitled to your opinion Sir and respect you for having one. Sometimes circumstance produces a unique combination, ala Craven and Morne, dont think there could have been dissimilar personalities but it worked.

I am a Bok fan who holds the party line regardless so I wont criticize a coach until he has done something I believe is worth it. I have my own reservations about HM but will keep them to myself for now. I agree that one defeat does not mean you should be castigated but when you lose you must be held accountable the Bok job as Meyer has stated is all about winning, he should feel under immense pressure after a Bok loss, all of his predecessors have been and with the exception of Christie each has had the fall back position of the building, four year plan, learning curve, cycle mantra to fall back on.

HM is the only one recently who has left himself without that parachute and for that I commend him. The Boks should go out and play till they die in every game if that’s what it takes to win. And a Bok loss should not be tolerated by fans or the South African rugby fraternity at large.

anyway goodnight Sir.

anyway night..

and btw I don’t wish HM to fail.. but I don’t unconditionally offer him unilateral unconditioned support if he is unable to grasp what is good for the team and country as a whole beyond a narrow perspective of preconditioned overly conservative thinking.. he must succeed or fail by his own decision taking .. and Bok coach job is not one you take if you too afraid to fail… to me a brave failure is as valuable, in fact I would say is more valuable than a cowardly lucky packet success..

Integrity and honor in my view is not gained through winning some tinsel town lucky packet crown after 4 years of poor selection and strategic mediocrity.

JdV was the very BEST candidate for the position whether HM could recognize it initially or not.. he got handed the captain by providence or by circumstance and not by his own decision… HM is damn lucky that is the case because not only is JdV the best candidate he might actually have been his only possible candidate given the unveiling circumstances…

So he has hit the ground running by a very fortunate set of circumstances and now he got to run with the momentum and not stall the potential .. and that means select the best available players and combinations to bolster the entire team dynamic…

JdV does not lose easily – like John Smit did.. so in this respect HM is actually highly fortunate to have a leader of such caliber running his team on the field of play.. the captain is almost as responsible as the coach for the success of the team as a whole.. think Francoise Pienaar, Martin Johnson, John Eales, and even John Smit in 2007 (but not after 2009), without a winning mentality captain the coach is only half as capable to produce the goods.

If HM didn’t have the availability of JdV currently and had to resort to Spies or Daniel to lead this team I reckon he might have found himself in deep waters initially till he bred a capable captain to follow through.. so by default HM is rather fortunate the decision was taken out of his hand.. but from here on out he will have to build his coaching legacy with the aid of his captain and by his overall clarity of team building vision.

@whatever(whatever)-431: you the groot bek behind your computer actually .. just like some other groot bek ponces here who reckon they know so much when they actually know so little.