Baby Boks get skipper back
21 Jun 2012
SA U20 head coach Dawie Theron has made three changes to his starting line-up that will face New Zealand in the Junior World Championship final.
Up front, captain and flank Wiaan Liebenberg returns to the run-on XV after struggling with a wrist injury. As a result, star openside flank Shaun Adendorff, who’s been nominated for the IRB Junior Player of the Year award, falls out.
In the backline, wing Raymond Rhule comes in for Paul Jordaan, who’s out with a hamstring injury. Outside centre Kobus van Wyk will make his first tournament appearance as he replaces William Small-Smith, who’s sidelined with a leg injury.
Baby Boks – 15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Raymond Rhule, 13 Kobus van Wyk, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Tshotsho Mbovane, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Vian van der Watt, 8 Fabian Booysen, 7 Pieter Steph du Toit, 6 Wiaan Liebenberg, (c), 5 Ruan Botha, 4 Paul Willemse, 3 Maks van Dyk, 2 Mark Pretorius, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Franco Marais, 17 Allan Dell, 18 Oliver Kebble, 19 Braam Steyn, 20 Shaun Adendorff, 21 Abrie Griesel, 22 Tony Jantjies, 23 Travis Ismaiel.

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21 Jun 2012, 16:28 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-46: Yeah. Although both hookers have done pretty well in open playa at times, they have failed in their primary responsibilty. Just not good enough
The scrumhalf and hooking positions this year have been a big worry unlike last year where we had Mbonambi & van Vuuren as hookers and Rademan & Jacobs as scrummies.
21 Jun 2012, 16:28 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-47:
let me put it this way.
if i was a scout on the lookout and i had a cetain amount of money which allowed to only make a single offer, then i would go with pollard.
good luck to jantjes though and i’m sure he’ll opportunities to prove himself.
21 Jun 2012, 16:31 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-50:
oh well, maybe, maybe not. its just hypothetical and hindsight thinking now.
was one helluva second half comeback though. havn’t seen that in a long time.
21 Jun 2012, 16:37 pm
@toulon says(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-53: I;m still not sure what it was. Either England just dropped in intensity or the Boks raised thiers. there was an obvious change in the pattern, but I can’t believe that that alone was the difference. It was something else. If the baby Boks want to win tomorrow, they’ll need to find that something else in the 1st half already.
21 Jun 2012, 16:44 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-54:
yip,
they’ll need it for the full 80. that is one mean looking baby black machine.
21 Jun 2012, 16:48 pm
@toulon says(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-55: I don’t think the baby Black are that good this year. I thought the score vs wales in the semi flattered to deceive a bit. Their forwards aren’t as dynamic and their backline lack the magical players they seemed to have in the last few years. I reckon it will be close.
21 Jun 2012, 17:24 pm
I am gobsmacked that Adendorff is on the bench. More disturbing is the scrumhalf Vian van der Watt who has been useless in every game. The only standout feature of this guy is his pair of neon pink boots. If he is the best No 9 in this age group in SA, then we are in the dwang!
21 Jun 2012, 18:02 pm
@wimbo(wimbo)-57: You obviously haven’t seen Pom Pom kick Griesel in action then have you? He was the original 1st choice……but his epic fail against the Irish put end to that praise be.
But you are correct, the caliber of junior scrummies is up to maggots and it seems to be a trend – why are we not producing better 9′s?
21 Jun 2012, 18:06 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-42:
I am questioning why you are benching one of the best players of the tournament and keeping a passenger, your examples of the scrummies is not even close to the topic. Both are ****.
The decision is nonsensical.
21 Jun 2012, 18:18 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-59: Why don’t you ask Dawie.Stop pushing this obviously racist agenda of yours.Tomorrow I will be shouting my lungs out supporting the youngsters irrespective of their skin colour.
21 Jun 2012, 18:48 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-60:
My obvious racist agenda? Well that’s a new one I can tick off.
21 Jun 2012, 19:43 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-61: LMFAO a first for sure MOrne
21 Jun 2012, 19:44 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-62:
Well it did take 7 years to tick that box!
21 Jun 2012, 19:48 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-63: hehehehe bro, yeah ya know how it works, just the othrer days your accuser and a few others quickly branded the non selection of kolisi a big racist affair
Does it surprise you??
21 Jun 2012, 19:56 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-64: Nice try old toppie.I have not made one post on this forum decrying Kolisi’s non-selection.Tyrone,you are still the ultimate liar on this forum.
21 Jun 2012, 19:59 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-65:
Hang on a second…
I might be mistaken but did Tacitus not highlight one of your posts the other day saying that Heyneke Meyer’s apparent ‘policy’ of not selecting smaller players infringes on their human and/or constitutional rights?
21 Jun 2012, 20:03 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-65: son you were born with a racist attitude, you will never change, its the fibre you are made of, A LEOPARD NEVER CHANGES ITS SPOTS
21 Jun 2012, 20:05 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-66:
21 Jun 2012, 20:21 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-66: Well said Pissant, the guy is racist and very very stupid.
TONTOOOOO, TONTOOOOOOOOO, TONTOOOOOOOOO,
21 Jun 2012, 20:21 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-66: @PissAnt(PissAnt)-66: He did not highlight my post.What he did was to take my post totally out of context to impress his mates.The discussion the evening,which he was not even part of,was about Meyer’s statement that he would not select small guys for the Boks.My contribution was that it’s irresponsible of a Bok coach to make a statement like that thus crushing the hopes of hundreds of players not fulfilling his criteria and thus excluding them from having a fair shot at making the Bok team.I am glad that he has come to his senses in his selection process.He has the right to select his own team but he has no right to make irresponsible statements out of sync with our constitution where everybody is seen as equal and afforded the same opportunities.
21 Jun 2012, 20:28 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-67: Show me the post where i punted for Kolisi’s inclusion!That’s all i ask of you.You are the biggest liar,sexist and racist on this forum you Fritzl freak.
21 Jun 2012, 20:30 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-71: TONTOOOOO, TONTOOOOOOOO, TONTOOOOOOOO
21 Jun 2012, 20:35 pm
I am still waiting Tyrone!!!On the other hand don’t bother because you are well-known for your hormonal lying exploits on this forum.
21 Jun 2012, 20:36 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-70:
Okay do after all that, you did say it.
I must admit man, I have read some warped **** on this website but yours was the best by far, and I thank you.
At least now I can read your posts in context.
21 Jun 2012, 20:39 pm
I am out folks, thanks for the chat.
21 Jun 2012, 20:40 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-71: Remind me tomorrow Crapo, i dont feel like copying and pasting tonight k?? now im a liar sexist and racist?? BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA . UR ONE SPECIAL corky bloke, and what m akes me sxist and racist?? pray tell?? because i called you a munkey??
Grow up some and you might be shown some respect, but i am afraid till then you dont deserve even being compared to a rat, a rat still has a spine and has scrupples,
Go think About it, have nightmares, maybe you will wake up from them wondering where you parents went wrong, and how to better yourself
Tll then?? MAr,kel is 100% correct TONTOOO
21 Jun 2012, 20:41 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-75: GN MOrne catc h you tomorrow, i must still email you re our New A la carte opening
21 Jun 2012, 20:45 pm
And Capo just so you know?? Skoppie is lilly white
so pray tell what makes my statement racist?? and the sexist??
or a liar?? pray tell lad do you actually even understand what you are saying or thinking before you type ****??
21 Jun 2012, 20:46 pm
well i am off, tell you what CApo, you atleast had me lauging some
21 Jun 2012, 21:30 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-78: What statement are you on about Fritzl freak?I did not mention Skop in any of my posts or for that matter mnky statement.You see there you go again.your lying nature will always get the better of you Fritzl freak.
21 Jun 2012, 21:38 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-5: you must be blind. Booysen was huge in the semi. He was one of the best baby boks on the park. He might of been weak in the first few games but not in the semi
21 Jun 2012, 21:48 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-81: We need to get behind the boys now but some on here seemingly can’t leave the past behind.
21 Jun 2012, 22:55 pm
what with some these coaches that don’t know their best players available
and the scrummy is SLOW
go into your first final already carrying some compromising selections and you want to beat NZ.. you cannot carry ONE player at that level let alone a couple or few.
Baby Boks and Boks up for some tough games this weekend, hope they realize what they up against..
Can’t take second best options into a big test and then still expect best results from 2nd best selections.
22 Jun 2012, 00:34 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-61:
I rarely post these days, but I had to log in to post a good, hearty LMAO at that one!
22 Jun 2012, 01:50 am
Face the facts, pilgrim. The only 3 players of any quality in this Baby Bok side will not be on the pitch against the Blacks. Small-Smith and Jordaan are streets ahead of any other juniors in the country whilst Adendorff, the real hero in this side who got them to the finals through sheer grit, sits on the bench to keep the politicians satisfied they’ve done their bit for transformation.
22 Jun 2012, 05:55 am
C’mon lads we want 5 in a row, new territory for the baby Bokke lets see if they have any BMT.
22 Jun 2012, 06:10 am
What time is the game tonight?
22 Jun 2012, 06:54 am
Well well well! Chatter on keo.co.za has been relatively peaceful since our tumultuous exchanges of a few days ago so for all those who doubted my assertion that the common denominators of all the unpleasantness on this site are indeed Heavens Games, Predawn and Fern, I ask you if it is merely coincidence that these three despicable posters have been largely absent during this period of strife free fun banter all around and largely unanimous support for Heyneke Meyer and the Boks and Baby Boks? It is good to see the Sharks fans and Stormers fans (mostly) all showing restraint and focussing more on the rugby and fun banter. It is also good to see news that would normally attract a lot of hateful remarks being treated with such balance and circumspection. I told you all I was correct about who causes the trouble here. Be as indignant as you like Treehugger but the proof has been served up in the pudding for you and you can ignore the truth but you can not change it. It has nothing to do with me being arrogant but has everything to do with me serving up the truth to you honestly without fear of being ridiculed by anyone on this site or the doubters like you.
There is just one more person who needs to exposed as an originator of trouble and ill feeling on this site and that is Capo now using stormerforlife1. You may come from the opposite extreme of the above mentioned three but you are just as extremely unpleasant and despicable as them. Everyone knows this but like them your stench hangs around like the smell of dog **** on your shoe when you walk inside. Wake up man there’s more to life than vomiting hatred anonymously on a rugby site. Stop embarrassing the other Stormers fans and causing them to bear the brunt of your despicable remarks.
22 Jun 2012, 07:03 am
@Dirty Harry(FckU2)-88:
you’re a genius mate how long did it take you to work this out, they have been doing it for years…Fern is the worst talks a lot about children and other peoples wives needs some professional help
22 Jun 2012, 07:22 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-89:
Yes we have all known this for years just as we have all known for years that you are hardly any better than them whether you call yourself NZinChina or GreenTea. You too can not seem to resist churlish sarcastic remarks instead of simply talking about the rugby as evidenced by your sarcastic opening. I am not reacting to your sarcasm as I really do not care for your warped opinions but I am simply pointing it out as evidence of your duplicitous nature. You however have very little support on this site and your opinion remains an insignificantly childish one in an adult environment.
22 Jun 2012, 07:23 am
Really looking forward to this game, both teams have slightly different styles and approaches to the game, yet both effective. Gonna be a beauty
22 Jun 2012, 08:13 am
@Dirty Harry(FckU2)-90:
yip with your nic fcku2 you’re obviously right up there in the maturity stakes lol
22 Jun 2012, 08:35 am
@louis schropnel(louis shrapnel)-83:
@Dirty Harry(FckU2)-88:
How naive do you think the bloggers are? You are using two different pseudonyms but your vernacular is the same for both.
22 Jun 2012, 09:44 am
@wimbo(wimbo)-57:
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