Scintillating Sharks blow away Bulls
6 Jul 2012
RYAN VREDE reports on an excellent all-round performance from the Sharks that saw them get the bonus point in beating the Bulls 32-10 to keep their Super Rugby campaign alive.
If the Sharks can replicate the characteristics that earned them this most critical of victories – energy, purpose, physicality, accuracy of execution and killer instinct – they will be formidable opponents going forward. Their inconsistency has undermined their cause in recent matches, but tonight they were largely flawless in their approach and execution when they most needed to be.
The Bulls, laden with Springboks, are no soft touch, even away from home. But they were comprehensively outmuscled at the collisions and seldom allowed to get any momentum into their attacks. The Sharks would score four tries, but this win was built on their industry, accuracy and brutality on defence. With their key strike runners nullified, the Bulls’ potency was significantly diluted. Furthermore, the Sharks played above themselves at lineout time and their scrum fronted to further stifle the Bulls.
The Sharks starved them of possession and pinned them in their territory for the first 30 minutes of the contest, scoring two converted tries and two penalties to establish a 20-3 lead at the break, then struck the telling blow of the match three minutes into the second half. The Sharks’ first five pointer came after erosive phase play, Marcell Coetzee setting up Bismarck du Plessis for a try with a deft offload. Their second came after they punched up left then snapped right, JP Pietersen rounding off in the corner.
The Bulls were stunned and their response reflected this, loose, unstructured attacks marking the second quarter. Lwazi Mvovo scrambled well to deny Akona Ndungane a try in the 34th minute and the Bulls couldn’t convert subsequent pressure into the points they needed to stir belief going into the change rooms.
The Sharks then fractured the Bulls’ psyche further when Keegan Daniel alluded the cover defence after another wave of pressure had depleted the numbers in their defensive line.
But the Bulls’ resolve is well known and they rallied in search of what would have been one of the great comebacks. Zane Kirchner finished close to the corner with Morne Steyn converting. And while they enjoyed plenty of time on the ball in the period that followed, their play became increasingly desperate in the face of the Sharks’ immense tackle fight and rabid breakdown contest, the latter yielding numerous turnovers.
Having negotiated the best the Bulls could offer the Sharks set about capturing the five-point win they so needed to improve their chances of making the play-offs. The composure and intelligence they showed in achieving that goal was inspiring and their wild celebrations upon Louis Ludik touching down said everything about how much they had invested in achieving this crucial result.
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711 Comments
6 Jul 2012, 18:15 pm
Can you believe it. A Pom two thirds of the way into the final of Wimbledon.
This happens only once in 80 years.
Amazing
6 Jul 2012, 18:18 pm
And on the subject of rare feats did you know that the Stormers only score four tries in a super match once every 10 years … yes according to the experts on Reunion. Fact.
6 Jul 2012, 18:27 pm
Yeah and no brit has won since fred perry which was pre professional era. Also no french man has won either. Think Roger the rabbit looks pretty unstoppable though so may be a disappointed uk come Sunday.
6 Jul 2012, 18:36 pm
@RL(RL)-2:
And the rarest feat of them all:
The Lions have ended either last or second last in the Super rugby competition for 10 years in a row (in a week’s time it will be eleven years in a row). Possibly the worst sustained performance by any team in the history of “main line” professional sport.
6 Jul 2012, 18:48 pm
GO SHARKS.
6 Jul 2012, 18:48 pm
Where are the Sharks praise singers?
This should be a walk in Kings Park should it not? Only 4 injuries for the Sharks, the Stormers have played with gajillions and still win games that count: i.e. Bulls at Loftus. Not so Sharks fans?
You’re at home, the wunderkind Steyn back, Bok front row, Bok loosies, Bok backs all over – easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Go Sharks
6 Jul 2012, 18:51 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-4:
After Luyt there was a coloured guy name Van Rooyan who took over the union and ran it to the ground financially, he then moved to head SARU, so it looks accordingly
Try to Imagin Messrs Titus, Averil and Wakefield running WP Rugby instead of Rob Wagner, what would you get?
;(
6 Jul 2012, 18:52 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-4: they didn’t mention that on Reunion
6 Jul 2012, 18:52 pm
Lol, Tsonga caught without a box
6 Jul 2012, 18:54 pm
@RL(RL)-8:
also true
6 Jul 2012, 18:59 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-10:
6 Jul 2012, 18:59 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-7: Dear Hondo
You’re despicable and a waste of life. If you hate black people why do live in Africa?
Sincerely,
Bagel
6 Jul 2012, 19:00 pm
@Puma(Puma)-5:
I thought you were watching the tennis Puma!
6 Jul 2012, 19:01 pm
@RL(RL)-1:
Murray is Scottish and possibly the dullest man in sport!
Are the Irish ‘Pom’s too?
6 Jul 2012, 19:03 pm
Ai Keo scribes.
“Love updates”
6 Jul 2012, 19:03 pm
Backing the Bulls here. Would fancy them in the knockouts over the Sharks and they’ve had a far more consistent season. Feels like the Sharks only came to the party the last handful of games.
6 Jul 2012, 19:04 pm
@carol(carol)-11:
I don’t drink on Friday’s
You better hope Andy does not choke – are you watching?
6 Jul 2012, 19:05 pm
Would luv the Sharks to win it with a bonus point and the Bulls to secure a BP or 2 as well.
6 Jul 2012, 19:06 pm
@carol(carol)-14: oh hell I didn’t know that he is a Jock. That changes everything!
Go Froggy – take that Jock out. :angry:
6 Jul 2012, 19:07 pm
@Spiesisworthless1(Spiesisworthless1)-16: They’ve had a tough programme this year kicking off with the Bulls and Stormers away and then on the road early. Also having to rebuild the tight 5 with the locks gone and no Beast and JS in the beginning, so not too shabby position after that.
6 Jul 2012, 19:08 pm
@carol(carol)-14:
Tim Henman was even duller.
What is it with the Brits?
6 Jul 2012, 19:09 pm
Go Bullies.
6 Jul 2012, 19:10 pm
Murray on fire now.
6 Jul 2012, 19:11 pm
Go Peyper.
6 Jul 2012, 19:12 pm
Why is everyone watching tennis
6 Jul 2012, 19:13 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-17:
Your resolve is fantastic…..Fridays are made for SB.
Re Tim Henman, in the boring stakes I will agree it is a close run thing between Henman and Murray, however Murray has the worst voice in the history of broadcast interviews.
6 Jul 2012, 19:13 pm
Go my boy Coetzee – smash them.
6 Jul 2012, 19:13 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-23:
On fire, well I will not waste water putting him out!
6 Jul 2012, 19:14 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-23: Come on Rob!
6 Jul 2012, 19:15 pm
@RL(RL)-19:
Shame he does not play in a kilt and tam o shanter. Dawn would watch him then!
6 Jul 2012, 19:17 pm
Damn du Toit was crushed by the Pottie.
6 Jul 2012, 19:20 pm
Nooooo Carol not Murray!!!!
6 Jul 2012, 19:21 pm
@carol(carol)-30: if he played in a kilt a bet that the tv numbers will sky rocket (half of Cape Town tuned in for sure). A real Scot does not wear anything underneath his kilt.
6 Jul 2012, 19:24 pm
What an offlaod from Coetzee – he created that try.
What a player.
6 Jul 2012, 19:25 pm
Awesome try. Sharks really impressive. Great work from Coetzee.
6 Jul 2012, 19:25 pm
bissy flattens kirchner
6 Jul 2012, 19:27 pm
I see we got a fern wannabe here
6 Jul 2012, 19:35 pm
that’s what you get from fransie…
6 Jul 2012, 19:40 pm
After last weekend’s friendly, the Bulls now have a game on their hands.
6 Jul 2012, 19:40 pm
Sharks a really playing well. Pietersen try.
6 Jul 2012, 19:41 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-36:
but everybody flattens Kirchner
6 Jul 2012, 19:41 pm
Go Freddie, go Sharks!
6 Jul 2012, 19:41 pm
Spies and Jaque Potgieter have to be the 2 kakkest loose forwards in Superugby full stop. Potgieter does f okk ol, he just ‘looks’ busy but spends half his time throwing his hair back, losing the ball and making contact with his head…….
Spies, well, words they are few
Go Sharks. Deny the Bulls a point.
6 Jul 2012, 19:42 pm
Shamelessly successful effort for the Bulls to get a July ski trip to the South Island
6 Jul 2012, 19:43 pm
This is not a match – is the real Ludeke showing his true colours.
Heieken left him without his defense coach and without his forward coach and without a clue.
6 Jul 2012, 19:45 pm
Blocking from the Sharks there.
6 Jul 2012, 19:46 pm
Come on Spies. Inspire your boys and lead from the front
6 Jul 2012, 19:47 pm
Go Sharks!
6 Jul 2012, 19:47 pm
If I knew we were gonna play like this I would rather have stayed at home. Disgraceful.
6 Jul 2012, 19:48 pm
I meant at work.
6 Jul 2012, 19:48 pm
Deon Greyling is kak
Both Potgieters are kak
Aikona is the slowest kakkest wing in superrugby!
6 Jul 2012, 19:49 pm
Juandre Kruger, GHD Potgieter, Spies……………………hondk@k lol. How do these okes make the SB squad. GO SHARKS!!!!!
6 Jul 2012, 19:50 pm
Kankowski’s having a good game.
6 Jul 2012, 19:51 pm
No try
6 Jul 2012, 19:51 pm
freddie the TMO spotted it.
6 Jul 2012, 19:51 pm
And Kankowski is as kak as Spies!
Infact the word Spies is synonymous with kak.
6 Jul 2012, 19:53 pm
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-52:
Macguyver Greyling pulls the same “ek gaan jou dik bliksem ek se’ kak out each derby (with the same sad results for him each time…)
6 Jul 2012, 19:57 pm
morne is NOWHERE in general play! just waiting to skop.
6 Jul 2012, 19:57 pm
Good debut by Pieter-Stef du Toit. well done young man.
6 Jul 2012, 19:58 pm
Sharks very good on the counter.
Dewald Potgieter having an outstanding game in a losing pack.
6 Jul 2012, 19:58 pm
Mvovo, textbook try saving tackle!
Spies is MIA. Bismarck is calling the shots here, thank you very much
6 Jul 2012, 20:00 pm
Spies…..rolls like a toddler, loses the ball. Woeful.
Where is that Taccy fellow? He needs to explain to me what Spies was doing there, and why he was coached to do that.
6 Jul 2012, 20:00 pm
JP Pietersen stood there watching a rugby ball on the ground for an eternity.. WTF?? Sometimes he falls asleep on the field.
6 Jul 2012, 20:00 pm
Good half of rugby that.
6 Jul 2012, 20:01 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-43: The Bulls have one of the poorest loose trios in the competition.
I’ll probably get crucified for saying that.
6 Jul 2012, 20:01 pm
I luv that Vodacom advert.
6 Jul 2012, 20:01 pm
first scrum of the game was a chassisbender
looked like the bulls pack were wearing rollerskates
first long range penalty,fransie nails it.
double BOOM!
6 Jul 2012, 20:02 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-63: He was telling the ref to play the knock-on.
6 Jul 2012, 20:02 pm
Spies just actually touched the ball for the first time in 12mins, and that was to pick it up after a knock-on. Somebody please, tell me what this guy does on a pitch………..!?
Last game he touched it 4 times in the second half and there was a period of 22 mins when he didn’t touch the ball…………he just runs around,
How can this be…………??
6 Jul 2012, 20:03 pm
Strooi. Morne is doing his level best, distribution is good. Others ore messing it up.
6 Jul 2012, 20:03 pm
I cannot believe how people are going on about how kak the Bulls players and no mention of how good the Sharks are at shutting them down and allowing them the go forward they had last week. There is always a Sharks player attacking the defensive ruck with rights to play the ball which makes it difficult to get quick ball.
6 Jul 2012, 20:03 pm
The Sharks are looking awesome. But then why wait until now to play as well as you can? Why not throughout the season? They always do this.
6 Jul 2012, 20:03 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-71: meant “not” allowing them…..
6 Jul 2012, 20:04 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-62: I would like to hear from him why that King reject Potgieter was selected for the Boks ahead of the hairy Strauss.
6 Jul 2012, 20:04 pm
The Bulls defensive coach is busy spitting puffadders in the changeroom.
6 Jul 2012, 20:05 pm
@frm(frm)-69:
Do you realise that rugby is more than just running around with the ball for 80 minutes?
6 Jul 2012, 20:05 pm
@51 akhona’s lost his acceleration. But outside of the speed issue, him & his bro have been amongst the most dependable, diligent wings of the past few years
6 Jul 2012, 20:05 pm
Sharkies looking sharp!!! Bulls loosies are nowhere, led from the front by Captain Invisible himself lol …loved Bissy running right over Kirchner
6 Jul 2012, 20:06 pm
Those geniuses who have been critical of Marcell Coetzee – where are you now? Do you have any more pointers for him?
6 Jul 2012, 20:06 pm
If we, The Mighty Stormers, can whip The Pink Brigade twice in a season, then The Whitebait should win in the Goldfish Bowl…………………
6 Jul 2012, 20:06 pm
@willievz(willievz)-60:
I’ve reckoned for a while that Dewald should concentrate at 6. He has the intelligence and skill to provide an element that’s been missing from our loosies.
6 Jul 2012, 20:07 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-75:
He can spit all he wants. It’s clear all these babies just went with for a long weekend in Durban.
6 Jul 2012, 20:07 pm
@RL(RL)-74: Absolutely ridiculous. Josh a far better player and more versatile (7 & 8)
6 Jul 2012, 20:07 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-71: guppies are only good if they pickup a bonus point win. 4 points just not good enough.
6 Jul 2012, 20:07 pm
@RL(RL)-56: Kankowski is on fire. What are you talking about?
6 Jul 2012, 20:07 pm
@willievz(willievz)-65: How can you be crucified for speaking the truth
The only folk who will disagree with you, in no particular order:
1. Heyneke Meyer
2. Frans Ludeke
3. That Tacitus fellow.
4. Spies
5. J Potgieter
I am a huge Dewald Potgieter fan though, so I won’t be saying anything negative about him. He has such a good rugby brain and reads the game far too well to play for the Bulls.
6 Jul 2012, 20:09 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-79: Notice the number on his jersey tonight.
@David(David)-81: I tend to agree with you, even though I also think he is best nr8 they have at the moment. Very intelligent player.
6 Jul 2012, 20:09 pm
Jacques P is hondk*k!!
6 Jul 2012, 20:10 pm
Kanko is having a brilliant game. Superb in the lineouts.
Go Sharks.
6 Jul 2012, 20:10 pm
@Ho3n3r – running around for 80mins and ACTUALLY ACHIEVING SOMETHING is my point! What’s Spies’ point?
6 Jul 2012, 20:10 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-71: Because at this stage it’s more fun talking about how kak certain Bulls players are.
(Sharks are playing extremely well dude, we all see that)
6 Jul 2012, 20:11 pm
Can’t believe I picked to Pienk Cows on S.bru!!! Where is their pienk away strip?
My synopsis of the 1st half:
For the Sharks; Bissie, marcel, Jpp, Fred and Kanko have all played well.
Bulls; not many positives, lineout and scrum under pressure, Spies has been invisible, how did JJ make the Boks squad, he has had a kak season, Potgieter (7) also nowhere and has no impact – how did he win a Bok cap?
Bulls look sh!te !!
6 Jul 2012, 20:11 pm
@viewer(viewer)-77: look Aikona is 5 years older that what his I’d book says. Long story but it is true so the lack of pace is understandable.
@willievz(willievz)-83: sad but true.
6 Jul 2012, 20:12 pm
@Ho3n3r(Ho3n3r)-76: Did you notice anything constructive Spies did in the half? I honestly didn’t but I’m all ears if I missed something.
6 Jul 2012, 20:13 pm
Whitehaed is slow – Spies tracked him down…
6 Jul 2012, 20:13 pm
Spies making Whitehead look like a snail. One good thing to see as a Bulls supporter.
6 Jul 2012, 20:13 pm
Spies did something!
6 Jul 2012, 20:13 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-85: sorry I must have mistaken him for Daniel.
6 Jul 2012, 20:13 pm
@willievz(willievz)-65:
The Bulls in essence aren’t a bad team, but they have won so many of their games last two years assisted by fraudulent referees, they just got used to those referees winning it for them. It’s the easy way
Ditto the Stormers
6 Jul 2012, 20:15 pm
Good build. Well executed try.
6 Jul 2012, 20:15 pm
Ok Daniel now why did you go and do that after what I just said.
I hate that fellow Murphy.
6 Jul 2012, 20:15 pm
Sharks are unstoppable tonight.
6 Jul 2012, 20:15 pm
That Jacques Potgieter is a walking self-inflicted injury
Weak tackle Morne. Try Keegan!
6 Jul 2012, 20:15 pm
Dr Jannie jou doring!!
6 Jul 2012, 20:16 pm
Morne Steyn missed two tackles in the build-up to the try.
6 Jul 2012, 20:16 pm
@Spiesisworthless1(Spiesisworthless1)-94:
Nope. But as you would probably have gathered, that wasn’t my point.
6 Jul 2012, 20:17 pm
Nice cover defence there by Steyn and priness Spies lol
6 Jul 2012, 20:18 pm
@willievz(willievz)-87:
Yes, but a bit too small for the current game, unless they play a really powerful hard running 6 and 7 to compensate. As we’ve said, it’s the balance of the combos that are important.
6 Jul 2012, 20:18 pm
Where’s Skopsuster? I know you’re here. How do you like the sharkievarkies now?
6 Jul 2012, 20:19 pm
Did u guys see that super Zef IBO boxing champ – a friend of Hougie, both equally kommin !
6 Jul 2012, 20:19 pm
@kaksioek – what did Spies do? must have blinked – hope it’s put on YouTube for The Record……………
6 Jul 2012, 20:20 pm
JJ showing why Sadie isn’t required.
6 Jul 2012, 20:21 pm
Potgieter has NO ball skills, he is as thick as mud !
6 Jul 2012, 20:21 pm
Lol. ‘Useless’ Engelbrecht making a fool of that dude earlier that said he’s pathetic. Not even gonna go back to see who spoke the drivel.
6 Jul 2012, 20:21 pm
@frm(frm)-111: He ran down Whitehead, who would otherwise have scored a try. Showed great pace.
6 Jul 2012, 20:22 pm
The doped up nik naks goes in
6 Jul 2012, 20:22 pm
Good try Bulls. Game on.
6 Jul 2012, 20:23 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-110: Ja. Hougaard strikes me as being a bit better than that.
Well done Bulls. But I don’t think it will change anything.
Now that it isn’t a Test Morne can kick again
6 Jul 2012, 20:23 pm
115.@kaksioek – WOW…………………………………………..!!!! The ShowPony DID something!!
6 Jul 2012, 20:24 pm
I wonder if Michalak and F.Steyn communicate in French?
6 Jul 2012, 20:24 pm
Frans needs to think about his kicking a bit more.
6 Jul 2012, 20:25 pm
Wow – Frans Steyn is costing the Sharks – what a liability !!! He’s has a ho-ri-baaaal night !!
6 Jul 2012, 20:25 pm
again, that’s what u get from fransie….hot & cold!
6 Jul 2012, 20:25 pm
Now he can think about kicking the ball between the polls
6 Jul 2012, 20:26 pm
We, The Mighty Stormers, have nothing to worry about with these 2 teams,
6 Jul 2012, 20:26 pm
The Bulls props give away more penalties in 1 game than Brussouw gives away in 8
6 Jul 2012, 20:28 pm
Werner Kruger you are also kak. You and your fat buddy Greyling each conceded 21 penalties before todays match. Yes only fetchers condeded more penalties than you swinehond kak fatties so how the fuc did you become Boks?
6 Jul 2012, 20:28 pm
How many more dropped passes that guy Mvovo will survive?
6 Jul 2012, 20:28 pm
Frans you overrated pieca poo. I said he adds no value and tonight it shows. Hopeless.
6 Jul 2012, 20:29 pm
@frm(frm)-125: Keep telling yourself that! The Sharks have the ability to accumulate points in multiples larger than 3.
6 Jul 2012, 20:32 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-130:
Don’t you mean 4, or do you mistake rugby for soccer?
6 Jul 2012, 20:32 pm
Skinstad “you can see the ball drifting forward”
It was fully 2 metres forward Bob.
6 Jul 2012, 20:33 pm
I wonder what HM is thinking now – his BlouBok team is looking quite useless (and announcing it after The Mighty Stormers buried his beloved in his own back yard!
6 Jul 2012, 20:33 pm
Clever mark call freddie.
6 Jul 2012, 20:33 pm
That was a cynical forward pass, ala Jean de Villiers
Of course Basson was ahead of the passer, he always is,
6 Jul 2012, 20:34 pm
How many Boks in that Bulls team again…..
6 Jul 2012, 20:34 pm
Sharks need to focus and get the Bp try
6 Jul 2012, 20:35 pm
do the bulls have a plan b or like heyneke they don’t believe in being dynamic?
6 Jul 2012, 20:36 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-123: he’s been ‘hot’ at test level for the last six tests
6 Jul 2012, 20:36 pm
@David(David)-131: penalty = 3 points
This is what the Stormers are capable of
try = 5 points + 2 points for the conversion
This is what the Sharks are capable of
5>3
6 Jul 2012, 20:36 pm
I wonder is Bissie is only a 1 half player as he has not done much in the 2nd half..
6 Jul 2012, 20:37 pm
Jaques Potgieter is such a palooka
Dewald is class.
6 Jul 2012, 20:38 pm
dewalt working alone in that loose trio!
6 Jul 2012, 20:39 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-141: Happy now?
6 Jul 2012, 20:40 pm
The Bulls keep passing it forward, is that by design or as instructed?
6 Jul 2012, 20:40 pm
Where’s that huge guy, Beast mark 2 Adonga or something who was somewhere in the mix at the beginning of the season for the Bulls.
6 Jul 2012, 20:40 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-140:
OK, just goes to show how dirty our opponents are in giving away all those penalties to stop us scoring tries.
6 Jul 2012, 20:40 pm
CJ. O’Stander enters
6 Jul 2012, 20:41 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-139: what would you know about ‘hot’ players?
here comes the sicknote deysel.
6 Jul 2012, 20:41 pm
Bulls just took off their 2nd best loose forward for their best loose forward, who’s leaving anyway…
6 Jul 2012, 20:41 pm
Folk who will never be invited to a MENSA gathering:
Greyling and Jacque P……..
6 Jul 2012, 20:43 pm
CJ Stander on !
6 Jul 2012, 20:44 pm
The Niknaks man knocked the ball on and Peyper just ignored it!
6 Jul 2012, 20:44 pm
Deysel on – we mins to go
6 Jul 2012, 20:44 pm
the bulls can camp on the sharks 22 the whole night without scoring, they did it against the stormers…
6 Jul 2012, 20:44 pm
Will He who walks on water Meyer be selecting players on form for the rugby championship?
6 Jul 2012, 20:45 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-152:
Tra la!
6 Jul 2012, 20:46 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-151: And you’re a F***ing genius arent you….
6 Jul 2012, 20:47 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-156: well he picks mostly sharks players so he’s spot-on judging by this match
6 Jul 2012, 20:47 pm
Sies Spies!
6 Jul 2012, 20:47 pm
Wow!! The bulls are brilliant,top honours to the team maybe you guys need steve w.the referee
6 Jul 2012, 20:48 pm
Oh dear Spies.
Tacitus? What was the reasoning behind Spies being caught out at the back of the scrum like that? The coaching logic behind it?
6 Jul 2012, 20:48 pm
Boskak on, bonus point try off.
6 Jul 2012, 20:50 pm
Come on Sharks! Try time!
6 Jul 2012, 20:50 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-151: those two are dom as stones
6 Jul 2012, 20:51 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-159:
Considering the Sharks were 8th before this match, it doesn’t say much for Bok rugby as a whole.
6 Jul 2012, 20:51 pm
@greybeard(greybeard)-158: Well I reckon I’m a little brighter than Jacque P for starters. In fact, a lot brighter.
You CAN NOT tell me Ludeke has ordered him not to pass the ball in any circumstances? Ever?
6 Jul 2012, 20:52 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-162: If he had resisted McLeod’s tackle he may have injured himself, thereby potentially shortening his career.
Bonus point try!
6 Jul 2012, 20:52 pm
Ek is bloubullebokbevok
6 Jul 2012, 20:53 pm
Much is said about the Stormers not scoring 4 tries in a match.
But the Bulls have leaked 4 tries in a match how many times?
Tac, I know you’re out there somewhere.
6 Jul 2012, 20:53 pm
Brilliant game by the Sharks. I think they found that can of whoopass the Bulls mislaid.
6 Jul 2012, 20:54 pm
@David(David)-166: Add to that the numerous undeserving Bulls players…….. sigh.
6 Jul 2012, 20:54 pm
Three SA teams in the playoffs as it stands! Great job Sharks!
6 Jul 2012, 20:55 pm
Greybeard why are you so rude
6 Jul 2012, 20:55 pm
Expect the Bulls to thrash a poor Lions side next week and for the hype to start again.
6 Jul 2012, 20:55 pm
Good job Sharks.
The Bulls were never in it.
6 Jul 2012, 20:55 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-168: Makes sense. I’m sure Tacitus will confirm shortly.
6 Jul 2012, 20:56 pm
What a great win for the Sharks.
6 Jul 2012, 20:56 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-174: Probably a Bulls fan……
6 Jul 2012, 20:56 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-162: when mallett pointed this aspect of spies’ play he was called all sort of names
6 Jul 2012, 20:57 pm
BOOM!
6 Jul 2012, 20:57 pm
Nice Sharkies. Baie dankie. Much appreciated. Let me just say this again. Frans Steyn is a glory seeking, greedy mofo who regards himself waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too highly!
6 Jul 2012, 20:57 pm
@David(David)-166: the Sharks struggle with depth but their full complement include most of the best players SA has to offer, Steyn, Bismarck and Alberts were particularly destructive in the recent series. What other players do you feel have been overlooked that are crying out for selection?
6 Jul 2012, 20:57 pm
Wow – 22 points behind…. Fuggin Meyer better catch a wake up with his Bull Bok selections, Potgieter! Steyn and Spies are kak !!!
6 Jul 2012, 20:58 pm
Opgevok! Brilliant boys!
6 Jul 2012, 20:59 pm
Well, congrats, Sharks, just one try too much for the ideal result of the day but nevertheless great to see Bulls staying where they are and thus setting a photo-finish next weekend.
6 Jul 2012, 20:59 pm
Well done sharks.
Great results for Stormers today.
It is all beginning to fall into place……
6 Jul 2012, 20:59 pm
Woopass!
6 Jul 2012, 20:59 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-170: and remember that Mcfarland oke is both the Bulls & Bok defence coach
6 Jul 2012, 20:59 pm
WOW that was kak par excellence!!!!
Well done Sharks you deserved that win, did not see that coming.
6 Jul 2012, 21:00 pm
The Sharks and Bulls are level on points with the Australian conference leaders.
6 Jul 2012, 21:00 pm
I enjoyed that. Sharks were great today and full value for their bonus point win. A few bullboks continue along their paths of mediocrity. I pray Goosen dumps MSteyn out of the Boks and Vermuelen/Burger replace Spies come the RC or some stage this year. Lambie in for Niknaks naturally, and JPotgieter has dissapointed since returning from injury.
6 Jul 2012, 21:01 pm
I told them don’t waste your energy on the cheetahs I was told “we(bulls)will mope up the tank you just watc”h
What can I say sharks eat anything pink(rare) or blue(well done)
Kanko-wow
Marcell-wow(kolisi)???
6 Jul 2012, 21:01 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-180: It happens to Spies so often, that I’m STILL appalled no-one ever mentioned it on tv before Mallet did that fateful day
But I warn you: there will be 101 coaching reasons as to why this happens. It’s all part of Meyer’s masterplan.
6 Jul 2012, 21:01 pm
Shaaaaaarrrrkkksss!!!!
6 Jul 2012, 21:02 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-171: @THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-188: poor tac, he’s never going to live that down
6 Jul 2012, 21:02 pm
At least Spies can like to speak English.
6 Jul 2012, 21:03 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-196: We won’t let him
6 Jul 2012, 21:04 pm
@David(David)-166: Cmon David the Sharks had a measurably more difficult programme than the Stormers. The Stormers had 4 out of their first 5 games at home, enough time to build confidence etc. The Sharks on the other were having to play catch up rugby from the beginning hence the 8 position on the log b4 this game. These teams are not hugely different from each other in talent etc. so the little things can make a big difference in how your season develops. I’m happy to see 3 SA sides in contention for the pla
6 Jul 2012, 21:05 pm
Bulls are flat track bullies…
6 Jul 2012, 21:07 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-199: and HM has not got it wrong with his selections. He has tremendous options going forward when some players come back from injuries.
6 Jul 2012, 21:08 pm
The Bokke future does not look good if these palookas are still included:
Kirchner
Kruger
Greyling
Spies
Olivier
Potgeiter
get my drift……..?
6 Jul 2012, 21:08 pm
Matfield is not a good commentator, nor is Bobbie – who hires these numb nuts?
6 Jul 2012, 21:10 pm
Heyneke Meyer said before the Bok announcement that Spies will have to up his game.
And also stated that he was impressed with Kankowski. I think tonight proved that Spies’s days in a Bok jersey are numbered.
Because Vermeulen isn’t back yet. But will be soon.
6 Jul 2012, 21:11 pm
When the going gets tough the Sharks get going!! Well done boys and especially Kanko!!1
6 Jul 2012, 21:11 pm
Bulls look so ordinary when they can’t physically dominate. Far too predictable.
6 Jul 2012, 21:13 pm
Wow the Sharks were good tonight…congrats to them….
End of the cup dream for Bulls I would say as they are facing the wrath of the eye gouging Crusaders at home….
Good luck Stormers….
Look forward to the internationals!
6 Jul 2012, 21:13 pm
The Sharks ruined my earning, damn it
But it was good to see them this evening, come to think of that, it was the Bulls’ 4th loss in 5 matches?!
6 Jul 2012, 21:13 pm
Wow.
What can I say?
Let’s see.
Are the Sharks the best team in SA? I think so.
What a game. 4 tries to 1. Wow.
6 Jul 2012, 21:15 pm
203.@brains_trust — but still not as bad as the ex-WhiteBait Brosnian. Who is the bright nut that selects him to commentate on a WhiteBait game………….??
the most-biased of them all,
6 Jul 2012, 21:15 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-204:
Vermuelen isn’t a donkey. He’s the cart behind the donkey. Another over rated Wp player who actually does zip other than trip when he loses his boots.
Kanko was brilliant tonight as he always is behind a good pack.
vermuelen is probably 6th best #8 in SA.
6 Jul 2012, 21:15 pm
Well done Sharks.
6 Jul 2012, 21:16 pm
got back into sa just in time to see this.
the boys played better than i had expected.
bulls were blown off the park.
stormers supporters must be loving today’s results.
6 Jul 2012, 21:16 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-209: the log suggests differently but yeah “fairweather fan” gloat.
6 Jul 2012, 21:16 pm
@OCO(OCO)-211:
Not according to HM.
Watch this space.
6 Jul 2012, 21:17 pm
@ wooden spoon – no pal, the Stormers are the best SA team – go look at the log
6 Jul 2012, 21:17 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-209:
By far the best side in SA – SA (and SARFU) allowing.
6 Jul 2012, 21:17 pm
209 @ wooden spoon
Yes after losing to the Lions and beating the mediocre Bulls I guess the Sharks are the best SA team. They are – year in and year out – the best SA team. Laugh-out-farking-loud!
6 Jul 2012, 21:18 pm
@OCO(OCO)-211:
And the other 5 are?
6 Jul 2012, 21:18 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-209:
I wouldn’t hand out accolades that they’re the best side in SA right now. But they are an improving outfit.
6 Jul 2012, 21:19 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-215:
HM also rates Spies and M. Steyn.
QED
6 Jul 2012, 21:21 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-214: why on Earth would you call me a “”fairweather fan”?
Uhmmm, the Sharks beat the Stormers 3 games ago….
Now sit the **** back down you contentious little git.
6 Jul 2012, 21:21 pm
@ OCO – Vermeulen is the best #8 in SA, u know f-all about Rugby. Now we hv to hear how the Sharks are the 2nd coming of ****** because they won a game… Same old, same old… Look at the log u plonkers !!!
6 Jul 2012, 21:22 pm
Oh noooooooooo am gutted !!! ……..I thought game was tomorrow…..have been working my arlie off so I could relax and watch tomorrow. Am really angry and freaked out.
Off to read thread.
6 Jul 2012, 21:22 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-216: @Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-218: @IAAS(I am a stormer)-220:
My oh my you chaps have forgotten the whupping your team received at Kings Park just before the international recess?….
6 Jul 2012, 21:24 pm
@David(David)-219:
Ok let’s start with my granny (both) deceased for more than 30 years. Then we can add any other player in SA. OK, so I was actaully being nice to Verfoolin saying 6th. Another joke Wp player like so many others. All hype and no substinance.
If you want, just check Rugby Stats. But hey, guess they’re lying and anti-WP as well being an Australian outfit and all.
6 Jul 2012, 21:24 pm
@ Pee Wee. Don’t forget how they blew the Stormers away as well. Pretty much like tonight actually.
6 Jul 2012, 21:25 pm
Stormers. Thumped.
Bulls. Annihilated.
Natural world order restored.
= happy Sharks fan.
6 Jul 2012, 21:25 pm
Sharks inconsistencies are really bothering me!! Why cant they play every game like this??
6 Jul 2012, 21:25 pm
218. Pee Wee. Don’t forget how they blew the Stormers away as well. Pretty much like tonight actually.
6 Jul 2012, 21:26 pm
Lions are better than the Sharks – they beat the Sharks a few weeks ago
6 Jul 2012, 21:26 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-223:
If I called you an idiot would you actually understand?
Or are you making a joke?
Brains trust is about right for your analysis coming from the WP.
6 Jul 2012, 21:26 pm
Now chaps be nice…
6 Jul 2012, 21:27 pm
Kanko is getting back to his best and I’m proud of him
I’ve stood beside him for many years, listening to people talk about spies
Now I here duane being given accolades b’cos the other team is ahead
I witnessed the demise of dewalt on pvr(flip I even have recordings of his disasters on the field incl.last years hurricanes match)
Then there is also siya,who himself doesn’t know his best position due to the hype
All I’m saying is make your money in japan and return to your true colours(green+gold)
From your superfan
Haters will say your a currie cup+super rugby specialist only, test rugby is not for you but you deserve to be up there
Big up to the SHARKS team!!
6 Jul 2012, 21:27 pm
Go Cheetahs! Stormers are ripe for a plucking tomorrow. I reckon if the Cheetahs beat the Stormers (excellent chance) then the Stormers may just crumble and lose to the Rebels next weekend too. Who knows, they might miss out on the play offs altogether?
6 Jul 2012, 21:27 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-231:
Sharks beat WP last time out and, with better reffing, it would have been twice this SR season.
6 Jul 2012, 21:28 pm
Stormers have been the best SA team this year. No disputing that.
Sharks let themselves down against the Lions. If you look at that log and consider the Sharks could have been at least 4 points better off, one realizes just how stupid that loss was.
Whatever your feelings on the Sharks are – in this game, any of the other Super rugby sides would have struggled in Durban. If only the Sharks could just be consistent.
Ey – now the Cheetahs will be chomping at the bit to ruin the Sharks party.
6 Jul 2012, 21:28 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-231: ah, thank you. By your own argument you accept the Stormers at the top of the log can also not be the best team.
6 Jul 2012, 21:29 pm
Bye bye …
6 Jul 2012, 21:29 pm
Where is ” i love Bakkies”?
6 Jul 2012, 21:29 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-235:
Me too. About time the ‘try-less’ Stromers were taught a lesson. But, as usual, depends on who is reffing the game not the teams and their play.
6 Jul 2012, 21:29 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-225:
Whupping? What was the score again?
6 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
Kanko was good… But I thought Marcel was massive again!! Showed why he is a Bok…
6 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
@Nik Nak(Nik Nak)-227:
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-228:
Every now and again a weak team beats a much stronger team.
Like the Rebels who beat the Crusaders… Argies beat France…… Sharks beat Stormers……..
That’s sport….. the battles within the war- no team can win every little battle- but at the end of the day the best one will win the war…… That’s why the Stormers have the SA conference in the bag. Just like last year.
6 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
Anyway, I have no issue with the Bulls. Well tried, it was a hard physical game. There is a proper and healthy respect between our two great teams. Even evidence by Bismark helping Kruger out with some tape for his boots.
The Stormers are different. And their arrogant part time kiwi fake fans deserve everything they get.
6 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-235: Sorry brother – that is just not going to happen. Stormers will win their last two games, and credit them the position they have earned. They deserve their position on the log.
Sharks deserve theirs too. If they had played like they did tonight throughout the season, the picture would have looked very different. But unfortunately, losing to the Lions is inexcusable.
6 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
Well done Sharks.
Just brilliant tonight. Never thought we would get the bonus point but they proved me wrong. Well done to all the players. We played as a team tonight and it makes a huge difference.
Kanko was awesome. Well done to him on mom too. We needed him the whole season when we were struggling in the lineouts. What a pity he only gets to start at the end of this tourney.
6 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-235:
Calm down, mate. You’re getting way too excited.
6 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
If anyone has watched ‘Dodgeball’ they will recognise the similarity between Skinstad and ‘Pepper’. Along a similar vein, the ‘Average Joes’ team is strangely reminiscent of the Stormers squad.
6 Jul 2012, 21:32 pm
Yeah 25-20 is blown away. Purple patch in the last 20min of the first half and then a turnover try at the beginning of the second half. That was it. The Stormers actually had opportunities to win it. I concede the Sharks deserved to win but they went to sleep in the second half. Hardly “blown” away. The best SA team then goes and loses to the worse SA team. I love the logic lol. Jokers
6 Jul 2012, 21:33 pm
Well done Sharks. That was a hiding we gave the Bulls. Jeez don’t remember us beating them by that much.
Just brilliant tonight. Never thought we would get the bonus point but they proved me wrong. Well done to all the players. We played as a team tonight and it makes a huge difference.
Kanko was awesome. Well done to him on mom too. We needed him the whole season when we were struggling in the lineouts. What a pity he only gets to start at the end of this tourney.
6 Jul 2012, 21:33 pm
Haven’t read all the other comments but all I can say is that Kankowski and Coetzee made Spies and Potgieter look like Vodacom Cup players. Thinking about it, maybe that’s all they are. But also so impressive the way the Sharks ” baby” locks made the Bulls Springbok duo look so ordinary. The only Bulls who looked OK were Hougaard, Engelbrect and to an extent Kirchner. Their forwards just disappeared (like their captain….). To think that the Sharks have 6 loosies who all better than every one of the Bulls lot is quite awesome.
6 Jul 2012, 21:33 pm
@RL(RL)-45:
> This is not a match – is the real Ludeke showing his true colours.
Nou praat jy
He’s turning us into the Lions team he used to coach, remember they eventually gave him an office job (probably couldn’t afford to buy out his contract) just to stop him from doing further damage.
6 Jul 2012, 21:35 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-245:
Bissie was busy trying to tie his boots together until he realised the TV cameras were on him.
6 Jul 2012, 21:35 pm
@lazarus(lazarus)-234:
Do you and he have a room together?
6 Jul 2012, 21:35 pm
Stormers fans are like the Milwall fans of English football. Yuk.
6 Jul 2012, 21:35 pm
@Puma(Puma)-247:
Yo Puma.
How goes it mate?
Sharks shored up the midfield with FS and they’re playing great rugga. Undoubtedly now the bst SA sde by a country mile.
Also Alberts wasn’t around which made a massive improvement. Kanko withDaniels is a better combo. Now if Lambie was at #15 it would have been a fifty pointer.
6 Jul 2012, 21:38 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-254: Lol. Don’t worry IAAS, you are a rose amongst thorns. There are very small handful of you, a microscopic minority, mind.
6 Jul 2012, 21:40 pm
Add Alberts, Lambie and Sykes into the mix and voila, a team even Transie aka Megatron the multi nic will **** in his Sharks boxers over.
6 Jul 2012, 21:42 pm
Wooden Spoon and COCO lol – have you seen where you guys are on the log – fighting for a play off place? The best team in SA by a country lost to the worse team by a country mile. Hilarious.
6 Jul 2012, 21:43 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-259: dont forget Jordaan, that kid woulda scored tonight, no ways spies would have caught him
6 Jul 2012, 21:45 pm
@OCO(OCO)-257: Howzit Oco,
Fransie was great, knew he would be. How brilliant was Kanko? Thought that was the best game I have seen him play. He was awesome. So was Bissie and Marcel actually the whole team were great tonight.
I thought we may win, but never gave us a chance of getting the bonus point. Then thought the Bulls might be pumped up and snatch a win here tonight knowing they could get a home quarter. Jeepers but never in my life did I think we would win by that margin, not ever. Just shows what the team can do and that was without some of our best players too. Heck I feel good for the players. Well done to them. However, if we want to make the play offs we have to do it over next week with a bonus point too. Very tough from here and if we make it the travel will be hell. Just hope no injuries from here on.
6 Jul 2012, 21:45 pm
Congrats my sharks , what a brilliant performance, as for the BUlls ?? People should give credit where its due, they played well and tried everything, Sharks just out thought and out played them on the day
6 Jul 2012, 21:45 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-261: but whitehead is the Sharks and Springbok savoir (according to Shark fans on KEO??)
Whitehead is slower than Odwa ….
6 Jul 2012, 21:46 pm
PSDT? Jannie, BIssy , Beast , hell it dont matter who you name they played well, but many dont give the front rows credit?? a match is won and lost up front, and our front row was huge
6 Jul 2012, 21:47 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-261: That was awesome. So great to see the players play like that. That was without our best players as well.
How brilliant was Kanko? Thought that was the best I have seen him play. He was outstanding. My mom before they even announced it.
6 Jul 2012, 21:47 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-264: might be one or 2, but you must also admit he played damn fine rugby,
6 Jul 2012, 21:49 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-265: For sure, just like Victor said, any 2nd row would have done well with a front row like that. They were outstanding. The reason they our Boks front row. No question about it.
6 Jul 2012, 21:49 pm
Great game by the Sharks. They thoroughly deserved that result. Kanko, Daniel, Coetzee & Bissie were very good.
Gonna be an interesting final week.
6 Jul 2012, 21:50 pm
@Puma(Puma)-266: yeah bro , Kanko was huge, i been saying it for so long, uninjured and if he gets a fair chance like Spies got? he would be the best 8thman in SA for sure
6 Jul 2012, 21:51 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-229: Good question! I would also like to know. It must be a mental thing IMO.
6 Jul 2012, 21:51 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-259:
6 Jul 2012, 21:51 pm
I find it funny how the Sharks supporters are saying Frans was great tonight. He played like a **** lol. Messiah? LOL
6 Jul 2012, 21:52 pm
again Freddy tastes success against the BUlls, he sure has a fine record against them lol
6 Jul 2012, 21:52 pm
I see OCO is in a good mood tnite
6 Jul 2012, 21:53 pm
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-273: FO man ur mad in ur head, yes he over powered a few kicks, his defence and passing etc was huge
you one of Grant 10′s *** grapes?? it sure seems like it hating on a player online like a 2 year old,
6 Jul 2012, 21:53 pm
Pee Wee still has a moerse hard on for Frankie Steyn I see.
Great to have Steyn back at the tank. Man can the guy get over the gain line. OPens up so much space for those around. Anyone who can’t see is deliberately doing so.
6 Jul 2012, 21:55 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-270:
@Puma(Puma)-272:
Well done to your team. They were outstanding- the best game Kanko ever played imo. Michalak and the front row were also outstanding with the others not far behind.
I have no idea where they are going to fit Alberts in … probably on the bench.
6 Jul 2012, 21:56 pm
anyhow – well done Sharks, if you read my comments during the game – I was pulling for them to get the 4th BP try. It is just their sanctimonious supporters that grate me !!
The Stormers are the #1 SA Side – if any Shark supporter disputes this FACT then they need to learn how to count..
6 Jul 2012, 21:56 pm
to the BUlls supporters bad luck on the days fella’s fact is ur still in the semi’s spots so keep fighting
And yes My Sharks if they get a bonus point victory next week>>? will prolly play the Brumbies in Aussie, rather them then the saders there
6 Jul 2012, 21:56 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-270: He should have been given more chances for the Boks. Only has had a handful if that of chances. Just damn pleased Meyer saw what a good player he can be, because when Meyer did select him I was surprised. Not surprised that he could see he was a good player but that Kanko had not even played much this year. So that tells you what he thinks of him. Now can he give him a start?
Now if we do make the play offs will Kanko tour with us? Or does he head off to Japan?
Anyhow we still have to beat the Cheetahs next week with a bonus point too. Then still worried our Shark Boks might pick up injuries if we make the play offs. Just hope no injuries.
Crikey I am a pessimist! hahahahaha. (Outside of this blog I am very positive) Blame that on our Sharks. Only feel like this with our Sharks as they lose to teams we should beat and beat teams I think we may lose too……….hahahaha.
6 Jul 2012, 21:57 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-200:
Yes
6 Jul 2012, 21:57 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-278: Thanks Rob, If PSDT cant play next week?? you might find Alberts at 4
6 Jul 2012, 21:58 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-256:
Please. I once went to Millwall. Not that bad.
6 Jul 2012, 21:58 pm
SAAAAAAAAARKS!!!!!!!!
6 Jul 2012, 21:58 pm
Yoh did you see how pumped Bismark was? These guys want to prove something alright. I just wish we had another easy game against the Stormers. He could do a lot of ‘proving’ against them.
6 Jul 2012, 21:59 pm
@Puma(Puma)-281:
bro , yeah im much the same, JOrdaan , Lambie , alberts and Sykes will al be back next week
6 Jul 2012, 22:00 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-279: go to bed you sourpuss. Sharks ate your team 3 rounds ago. You can’t claim jack.
6 Jul 2012, 22:00 pm
Now Stormers must do their thing and win tomorrow then they can top and there might still be a Sharks Stormers final in Cape town
6 Jul 2012, 22:00 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-280: Though if Bulls land up in 5th spot not a bad thing. Because if Stormers head the log we will have to travel straight back to SA if we beat the Reds to play them in Newlands. If we beat them there head straight back to NZ to play the final.
Then if Bulls beat the Saders and Chiefs in NZ and we beat Brumbies and Stormers it will be a Bulls/Sharks final……………….bwaaahaaaa. Never even thought of that. Longggggggggggggggggggggggggg shot I know, Just looking at all the scenarios.
6 Jul 2012, 22:01 pm
@papashanga(papashanga)-284: playing West Ham seems to brings the best out of them.
6 Jul 2012, 22:01 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-286: hiyas WS , yeah he was showing the emotion out on the field
6 Jul 2012, 22:02 pm
Just back from Kings Park and feeling both elated and apprehensive.Obviously elated after witnessing the Sharks absolutely outplay the Bulls in virtually every facet. Apprehensive in the knowledge that in just over a months time I will wearing my Bok cap and supporting the selfsame players who were so poor and ineffective tonight ,namely Spies,Hougaard,Steyn,and Kirchner,Heineke Meyer’s so-called “spine”, who he said he needed in his opening game against England.Well they were so poor that Ludick hardly came into the game at the back of the Sharks defense.Hougaard was the best of them ,but his kicking game is abysmal and will cost the Boks dearly against good opposition.The only word for Spies is “pathetic”.Even as a captain when the Bulls were shellshocked at 20-3 ,he was nowhere.The man has a heart the size of a pea. And Steyn could not engineer any more than 1 try in the second when half the Bulls had great multi phase Bull with overlaps and wide open spaces.Although perhaps the problem there were all the other current HM Bull favouritesoutside him ,ably lesd in the mediocrity stakes by his favuorite son, Meisiekind. HM better wake up or we are going to get thumped by the AB’s.
6 Jul 2012, 22:02 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-289: bro I will be roooooooooting big time for the Cheetahs tomorrow. The arrogant Stormers fans on here have ensured that I never cheer for their team again.
6 Jul 2012, 22:02 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-288:
The sharks were great today (not during the whole season) Don’t throw it away now.
6 Jul 2012, 22:02 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-289: No if they top the log we will meet them in the semi, that is if we beat the Brumbies.
Heck such a long way to go still. So much travel for the players. They gonna be out on their feet come the end of it if we go that far. Then straight after starts the RC. Jeepers far too much rugby I think for the players.
6 Jul 2012, 22:02 pm
286 @ Wooden Spoon
You can wish all you like hahahahahaha
6 Jul 2012, 22:03 pm
@Puma(Puma)-290:
bro imma stay here with my feet firly on the ground, we need to beat the Cheetahs first come next Saturday
6 Jul 2012, 22:03 pm
@Puma(Puma)-296: On Reunion the Kiwi’s said BUlls to win
6 Jul 2012, 22:05 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-299: well they can open up a can of 4 tries to 1.
6 Jul 2012, 22:05 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-294:
Dom’t rooooooooooooooot too hard tomorrow- you will have to save some energy to root even harder next weak for the Rebels as the Stormers will have to lose both games in order not to win the SA conference.
6 Jul 2012, 22:06 pm
@SDT(SDT)-293: Good post and definitely something Meyer should be looking at. Though think he will still stick with those players. Pity as there are so much better.
Kanko totally outplayed Spies.
6 Jul 2012, 22:07 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-300:
6 Jul 2012, 22:07 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-299: Bwaaaahaaaaa. Never watched it this week or last. So hope they choke on that……………….hahahahaha.
6 Jul 2012, 22:07 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-294: Wow if all Sharks supporters are like you maybe i should call all Sharks supporters arrogant. The only person I see being arrogant is you.
6 Jul 2012, 22:10 pm
Some might bite Tacitus ,but trustr me the bloke was big enough to admit before the match that he felt the Sharks were superior and would win!!!!
SO Khudo’s to him
6 Jul 2012, 22:10 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-303: Also Fransie was good tonight. Very pleased he is back for Sharks. Just a pity he can’t play in the play offs. If we make it we will be needing Jordaan.
6 Jul 2012, 22:10 pm
Meyer isn’t a huge Spies fan. Hopefully he will drop him now and give Kankowski a chance in the championship. He wants to win Tests more than he likes Spies.
6 Jul 2012, 22:11 pm
@heboric(heboric)-305: wait 24 hours for a Stormers thread and then comment. ‘Returning serve’ as our dear friend Poophead would say. And a lot of returning serve is needed to wipe the slate clean.
6 Jul 2012, 22:11 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-306: Tac did too.
6 Jul 2012, 22:11 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-294: You do not want the Cheetahs to win because then the Chiefs can afford to throw the last game against the Hurricanes and if the Sharks don’t get 5 against the Cheetahs the Canes end up 6th. We want the Chiefs to have to play for a win.
6 Jul 2012, 22:11 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-6: haha, swallow your tongue?
6 Jul 2012, 22:11 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-308: Hope so. Kanko had his best game ever. Well for me he did.
6 Jul 2012, 22:12 pm
@heboric(heboric)-305: not his fault he was born with a wooden spoon in his mouth and had to steal in order to survive…
6 Jul 2012, 22:12 pm
@Puma(Puma)-307: yeah i said so earlier, Fransie needs to sought out his kicking out of hand a bit, maybe not to always look for so much power
6 Jul 2012, 22:12 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-306: Tacitus is a quality poster on this site. Very level headed and knowledgeable, even if he can be a bit parochial at times. But, he never goes overboard, like our Stormer friends have a habit of doing.
6 Jul 2012, 22:14 pm
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-250: Nah – 25 – 20 isn’t blown away. 30 – 10 in a final….now that is blown away….:-)
Relax – dont pop a vein.
6 Jul 2012, 22:14 pm
Sharks were good tonight but still think that the midfield was not sharp. Fransie is not quick off the mark and carrying a bit too much weight and Whitehead still not fit coming back from injury. I would have considered Bosman in place of Whitfield to start given that Meyer has been improving for Sharks.
6 Jul 2012, 22:14 pm
@Puma(Puma)-313: What a shame he is going to Japan.
6 Jul 2012, 22:15 pm
Interesting end to the tournament coming up
6 Jul 2012, 22:15 pm
Stormers will not lose against the Cheetahs and we will roll the Rebels.
We don’t blow hot and cold like CERTAIN other teams … we stick with luke warm all season long -> but come Semi’s we’ll turn up the heat up to a simmer and we’ll come to a boil in the FINAL !!!
6 Jul 2012, 22:17 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-315: Given the relative lineout performances, he should have been kicking the ball out – not up the middle of the field. He could have kicked it as hard as he liked if he got his angles right.
6 Jul 2012, 22:17 pm
Apparently Sykes is going to be out for a while, hopefully Pieter S du Toit’s injury is not to serious.
6 Jul 2012, 22:17 pm
there’s one little piece of sharkshit that should go drown himself down the drain…he knows who he is… the same garbage piece of sharkshit trash that was rooting for Plumtree to get fired only the other day….
Bulls are a f’ck’d up team they got absolutely nothing going under this delusion they are living under with this hopeless nonentity of a captain leading them to nowhere and the half back axis in disarray with a painful fullback and a pathetic midfield and a front row who are only bulk and no power.
I don’t know how they going to fix this dilemma ruining springbok rugby but the Boks coach who is bulls bevok better wake up smartly and realize who the best players in SA are.
6 Jul 2012, 22:17 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-311: Reds are right behind us. They only have to play the Tahs next week. Think they will beat them easy.
Not sure if Canes can beat the Chiefs though. Doubt very much if Cheetahs will beat the Stormers.
Then I am sitting well down on bru, so I have no clue really……………..hahaha. Only had Sharks to win by 3. They won by 22 never ever did I think we would win by that margin. NOT ever. My feeling if we never gave away that run away try to Stormers and if the Ref picked up on the foward pass. We would have had a big win against them too. It is just against the Lions that I can bash my head against the wall and not come up with the answers why we fell off so badly there. Lions played well though, but still, we just looked somewhere else that night. Also against the Tahs how we fell away in the end just beats me too. Anyhow all done and dusted.
6 Jul 2012, 22:18 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-321: Stormers have lost two home semis before. I wouldn’t be so confident.
6 Jul 2012, 22:19 pm
@Puma(Puma)-325: bad boy
6 Jul 2012, 22:19 pm
@RainbowBanana(RainbowBanana)-323: Hope so. The youngster was playing well until that injury.
6 Jul 2012, 22:19 pm
The calibre and class of poster has suddenly deteriorated.
What’s that smell?
6 Jul 2012, 22:20 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-329: your top lip …
6 Jul 2012, 22:21 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-327:
6 Jul 2012, 22:21 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-324: Well, look who’s here. Welcome, the humble pie is delicious.
6 Jul 2012, 22:22 pm
I am
6 Jul 2012, 22:23 pm
@Puma(Puma)-325: Hey Puma , Canes are at 53 and with a 5 point win against the Chiefs would overtake us because of games won. The Chiefs could quite easily field a second 15 if they are guaranteed top spot. At the moment Chiefs are on 63 and Stormers on 58.
6 Jul 2012, 22:23 pm
the great messiah F. Steyn disappeared up all the overblown hype about him.. watch them start booing him again.. give it another six months and he may just want to go back to France again.
6 Jul 2012, 22:23 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-319: It is a shame really. Well I can’t blame him, he has hardly had any game time at all this year. Now we can see once again why we do lose players. I do hope he comes back to Sharks. Most players say they going for 6 months and just about none come back. Only Grant does go back to Stormers, then he does get game time with Stormers.
Watching Kanko tonight we see just how much we needed him this year. We have struggled with our lineouts. He was imense there and everywhere else too, got stuck in everywhere.
6 Jul 2012, 22:24 pm
@Puma(Puma)-325: Puma in 1999 the Sharks beat the Bulls 29-0 at the Tank, in a super rugby game.
6 Jul 2012, 22:25 pm
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-330: nah, that would be the 5ft garden gnome with the potty mouth.
6 Jul 2012, 22:25 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-335: He never did, go watch again. Carried the ball up many, many times and also off loading in the tackle. Go watch he was very good tonight make no mistake. Also remember he had to get with the Sharks game plan sharp this week. He has only had this week to work the coaches and players. He was very good.
6 Jul 2012, 22:26 pm
@Puma(Puma)-307: francois wasn’t that good tonight, please keep your obsession in check. his tactical kicking was off, he had on break after being put on by jannie. otherwise he was nowhere against wynand to boot.
easy with the man-crush
6 Jul 2012, 22:26 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-329: its all the garbage trash excrement oozing out your sharkshit arsehole.. no wonder you the first to smell it.
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-332: which humble pie.. where.. what pie is it you wish for me to eat..sharkshit don’t feature on my menu.
6 Jul 2012, 22:26 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-333:
I am quite happy that Kanko did so well today as i prefer number 8′s to be fast, akillful and athletic players instead of “bashers” like Alberts and even Vermeulen.
Lets hope he can continue like this.
6 Jul 2012, 22:28 pm
Your top lip!
6 Jul 2012, 22:29 pm
Bulls have had a great season considering what they have lost this last year, Bakkies,Victor,Guthro, Danie,FDP to name a few, all senior players so they are having to rebuild and the youngsters have been outstanding in my opinion.
6 Jul 2012, 22:29 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-337: Yes that was like 13 years back. I am talking here in the last 5 years or so. Recently we have not beaten them by that much. So I never expected that win margin. Did you? Bet many never expected it.
We were very good in the 90′s.
6 Jul 2012, 22:30 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-340:
I saw your team smashed the Eagles tonight.
What is the latest on Luke? When will he play again?
6 Jul 2012, 22:30 pm
so where all those great illustrious fairweather sharkshit elaborates baying for Plumtrees head right now… why aren’t they all standing in a row getting their heads blown off for treason and treachery?
6 Jul 2012, 22:31 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-344: Agree.
After losing so many players they have done very, very well.
We also have to think tonight we were without 5 of our players that have played most of the season for us, so this win was big for us.
6 Jul 2012, 22:31 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-342: When Alberts is back they’re going to have a selection poser. Probably stick Alberts at 7, Kanko at 8 and Daniel at 6, with a very unfortunate Coetzee dropping to the bench.
6 Jul 2012, 22:31 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-341: I just thought you might like to revise your oft-repeated lowly opinion of the Sharks. But to each his own. I’m sure you’re
with envy though, now that you’ve seen what tries look like.
6 Jul 2012, 22:31 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-329: the drop began with you! instead of celebrating your team’s victory you couldn’t resist digs @ the stormers & their fans.
u’re the type of sharks fan HG has been describing for the past week, nowhere when the team is in the doldrums but lekker groot bek when they win. FAIRWEATHER much?
6 Jul 2012, 22:33 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-342: With you on that Rob. I also like a fast 8 but skilfull and must get stuck in though if he has too. Kanko never stood back anytime tonight. Was outstanding in the lineouts as well.
6 Jul 2012, 22:33 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-349:
Yes,it will probably be something like that unless they move Alberts to number 4.
6 Jul 2012, 22:33 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-347: Plumtree must go. 6th place is not good enough. Fact.
6 Jul 2012, 22:33 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-349: Alberts on the bench, I say.
6 Jul 2012, 22:35 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-351: ***, at least I have a team. You were nowhere before the Kings were given a freebie by the government. Talk about ‘fairweather’!
6 Jul 2012, 22:37 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-347: It’s clearer than ever that Plumtree needs to go now that we’ve seen what these players are capable of. Kankowski has hardly got on the park this season and only did thanks to injuries. Look what we’ve been missing.
6 Jul 2012, 22:37 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-349: You can’t drop Marcel. Just far too good to be on the bench. I know some might not agree, but for now I would have Keegan on the bench. He is our captain I know, he is explosive off the bench. Alberts only plays for 60min normally.
Though Keegan has been outstanding this year. So not so sure, but we can’t leave out Alberts or Marcel. Now we definitley can’t leave our Kanko he was awesome in the lineouts. Something that has not been working for Sharks this year.
6 Jul 2012, 22:38 pm
Spies is no captain – never was one never will be one.. I don’t know who in Tsawne Stad got the hair brain idea to make that nonentity man the Bulls captain.. if it was Meyer then he don’t know squat about what comprises leadership credentials.. he was even forced into accepting JdV as his captain by default – he wanted FdP or Matfield as his go to guys…
Bulls recruiting policy is outright kak and now they bearing the result of their ingenuity….their best player on the park tonight was Dewalt Potgieter… that other Potgieter is a nobody crash baller worse than Schalk Burger… and Meyer rates these idiots as Springboks..
I hope to hell he catches an almighty wake up before they run on in the Rugby Championship in green and gold coming up soon.
6 Jul 2012, 22:39 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-349: Nope Katman, Sykes wont be ready for next weeks match , chances are with PSDT injured ? ALberts will play 4
6 Jul 2012, 22:39 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-346: luke is strangely still injured, it’s been a while.
6 Jul 2012, 22:41 pm
How pathetic is Brendon Nel of SS?? his article up no problem , then he has a pic os Skeate up?? Skeate aint even in the country
6 Jul 2012, 22:43 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-360: Perfect solution.
6 Jul 2012, 22:43 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-356: bwahahahaha it still does not change that your are the worst sharks fan on here! putrid attitude.
you resorting to using my name on this blog betrays your class. clearly i hit a nerve
truth hurts spooner.
6 Jul 2012, 22:44 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-354: @kaksioek(kaksioek)-357: Kanko got injured early in the season and they had to make space for Keegan as captain and Marcell because of the way he was playing.
If you look at the Sharks results we could quite easily have ended higher with the bounce of the ball or the ref favouring us
. Just look at the BP’ s we’ve had and you will realise we lost a lot of games closely and the only real blight on the season was the Lions result.
6 Jul 2012, 22:44 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-363: lol exactly
Now how good a Lock pair can PSDT be with Etsebeth??? ffs they 2 19 year olds
6 Jul 2012, 22:45 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-360: That will happen if those are injured. I thought Katman was talking more for next year though.
6 Jul 2012, 22:46 pm
Kankowski is only NOW beginning to play rugby at a level which is vaguely reminiscent of top flight rugby.. he has been POOR for the past 6 years.. he has recently bulked up and done some strength work to enable for him to compete in the rough tough arena … its obvious he’s been working on getting his bulk and strength up because he used to be a waif of a number 8 that would get flung around like a rag doll.. .. and now he’s off to Japan…
but for the past 6 years Kankowski’s contributions in international rugby have been on a par or worse than Spies… starting with his mammoth bravado feat of getting crunched between two big six second rowers from ITALY of all towering behemoths to have laid him low.
6 Jul 2012, 22:46 pm
Anyways outtahere going to finish a good Clive Cussler novel.
6 Jul 2012, 22:46 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-366: Yes makes you wonder. So young and so bloody good both of them. Just hope that injury he picked up is not serious and only a sprain.
6 Jul 2012, 22:47 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-366: I would retain Kruger and Etsebeth for now. We need experience and Kruger has that. Perhaps get PSDT into the squad for EOYT.
6 Jul 2012, 22:47 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-364: yaaaawn trrrrrransie. You are like a broken record. Stuck in place. No need to be so contentious in life. It will give you stomach ulcers. Live a little.
6 Jul 2012, 22:48 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-366: So what happens to Kanko if he goes to Japan, can he still play for the Boks if selected? Will his club be okay with that?
6 Jul 2012, 22:49 pm
ok Good night all
6 Jul 2012, 22:50 pm
@Puma(Puma)-373: yes it depends if he gets a call from HM, after tonight?? no doubt lol
6 Jul 2012, 22:50 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-357:
So, before tonight, if you had a choice between Coetzee, Daniel, Alberts, Deysel and Kanko, who would’ve been YOUR loose trio?
Oh yes, WELL DONE SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
HG going to eat up many SSARRRRRKKKKKKK supporter and spit them out again this week to come.
It’ll be very much funny.
6 Jul 2012, 22:50 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-369: Cheers bud, enjoy it. Those long evening are a pleasure this time of year too.
6 Jul 2012, 22:50 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-374: Cheers, enjoy the win.
6 Jul 2012, 22:51 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-375: I think he will. He totally showed up Spies. Meyer will have seen that and know we all saw it too.
6 Jul 2012, 22:52 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-374: Cheers bro.
6 Jul 2012, 22:52 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-378: thanks mate u2 ciao
6 Jul 2012, 22:52 pm
@Puma(Puma)-380: gn bro
6 Jul 2012, 22:53 pm
Coetsee plays FAR better at his ball carry role from No.7 and dare I say it he should actually be Sharks No.8
Kankowski is a Japanese geisha girl from next year so it should be
Coetsee
Du Toit
Daniel
Alberts
in that order….
Yup Alberts to share 7 with Du Toit.. one starting and the other off bench.
Deysel to share 4 with Marais and Bressler the other 2nd rower.
Forget Kankowski he’s tickets..
and if you were real Sharkshit supporters Plumtree would remain because he’s beaten the 2 top SA conference leaders already in one season.
6 Jul 2012, 22:53 pm
@nama1(nama1)-376: I would probably have picked Daniel, Coetzee and Alberts – but that’s only because Plum hasn’t given us a look at Kanko. The coach gets to attend practices – we don’t.
6 Jul 2012, 22:54 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-368: He hardly had been given any chance. He had been given as many chances as Spies he would have been at this level years back. He was always great for the Sharks. He missed out mostly this year due to injury and just never got back in. That normally happens if one gets injured they sometimes lose their place and that is a real pity. We needed him this year, Sharks lineout was one of our biggest problems this year.
6 Jul 2012, 22:55 pm
@Puma(Puma)-373: Hopefully he’s put a clause in his contract.
6 Jul 2012, 22:57 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-384: Well Meyer saw something in Kanko in the Bok practice because he sure as heck never saw it from the Sharks. Plum just never selected Kanko. He had been injured but once he was ready, just never got back in. Thank goodness Meyer saw something in him otherwise we might not have had Kanko start tonight.
6 Jul 2012, 22:59 pm
Good win but both packs are too lightweight for test rugby – the sharks backrow will grt owned by some hard-hitting kiwis. The best team in sa by quite some distance is the stormers but they need their players back to win it – otherwise they lose. Vermeluen bekker burger etsebeth elstadt all back fromninjury and they take any team kiwis included – Coetzee should be picking deon fourie nit the newbies at flank – fourie is just what is needed – he should be 1st choice hooker but if luebenberg there play him.at 6. Stormers pack would beat boks – the only 2 that make a massive difference otherwise are Bismarck and alberts.
6 Jul 2012, 23:00 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-386: Hope so.
Do hope he comes back to the Sharks at the end of the year. He said he was, but some going to Japan just never come back. Look at J. Fourie? He is making huge amounts and just said he was not going back to Stormers when he was supposed too.
6 Jul 2012, 23:01 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-383: Kanko is the best we have in the lineout though. He was superb there tonight.
6 Jul 2012, 23:02 pm
@Puma(Puma)-387: I wonder if he’s sufficiently impressed to pick him when he’s playing in Japan. Mind you, it could work out. If he has a clause that says he can miss club games to play Tests and plays in the RC he will only miss the CC, then play EOYT and then back to SA with extra cash in his pocket.
6 Jul 2012, 23:02 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-372: take your own advice, celebrate your team’s win and stop obsessing over the stormers
within three posts on this thread you were already spewing bile, maybe it’s becausr you were here the whole time denigrating your team hehehehe
fairweatherf orever?!
6 Jul 2012, 23:02 pm
Stormers all fit would beat current bok pack in a trial match I bet – except for maybe beast Bismarck and alberts but even then they’d still beat sharks pack if they had their full squad
6 Jul 2012, 23:04 pm
@Puma(Puma)-385: Kankowski was utter garbage for Boks numerous times staring back in 2008 as the reserve bench option in PdV’s team for almost entire 4 years..
Both Spies and Kankowski are garbage compared to Vermeulen and Alberts and Josh Strauss who should have all been ahead of both of them in the pecking order and Boks would NOT have had the abysmal record of losses they did since 2008 (barring one good year in 2009 when Brussow stole the show.)
Other than that Spies, Smith, Burger and Kankowski were the Bok loose trio since 2008.. see how ell they have done with that other moron Smit running and ruining the pack…. only now you realize what Bismark brings that Smit never could ever.. yet some of you still would have had Smit as captain and Kankowski as your No.8…
Go figure..no wonder Boks couldn’t buy a win under those palookas for the past 4 years (barring a purple patch in 2009 when ELV laws favored Brussows terrier type tactics).
Vermeulen should have been Bok 8 LONG before Spies or Kanko and Alberts should have started at 7 not played off bench behind Burger or Spies.
Kankowski is not international class loose forward .. same as Spies isn’t either.
6 Jul 2012, 23:06 pm
I’m really starting to suspect that cab and skopsuster are one and the same.
6 Jul 2012, 23:06 pm
Okay I am out of here.
Cheers everyone. Catch up tomorrow.
Good luck to Stormers tomorrow. I know I should be neutral for the game tomorrow, but I too like Victor said tonight, would like to see a saffa team top of the log and holding a final here and not NZ.
Okay now off to bed.
6 Jul 2012, 23:07 pm
Kitshoff fourie Harris etsebeth bekker kolisi elstadt vermeulen
malherbe liebenberg dekok burger
kiss your *** goodbye – don’t care who u are, provided they keep it tight stormers will win
6 Jul 2012, 23:09 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-394: He never got the same chances as Spies. Not ever. He should have started many more games and we could have seen what he could do. Can’t give a player a chance only coming off the bench or starting once or twice. How many times has Spies started? So many I can’t count. AND he is still there. If Kanko had that amount of chances he would be far, far better.
Okay I am off to bed ou maat. Cheers catch up tomorrow. Good luck to your Stormers tomorrow. They should win.
6 Jul 2012, 23:09 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-394: Things are never that black-and-white – except for the colour of the winning jersey tonight
6 Jul 2012, 23:10 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-384:
But you KNOW Kanko. He has been playing for how many years now and yet he is not in your 1st choice loose trio.
Don’t blame Plum.
Kanko is like Spies. They’ll have one or two brilliant games in a season and their fans will go gaga when it happens. The fact remains, they both are still mediocre compared to the internetional talent out there.
What did you think of Fransie today.
Horrible, wasn’t he?
PS: Don’t mention his long range penalty.
6 Jul 2012, 23:12 pm
Nope kaksoeik but stormers are the best team and yet all the players are being selected from bulls and sharks who’ve both lost like 5 or 6 times each – the stormers lost 2 – both away one to crusaders in nz and one to sharks with all their injuries – noone going to live with a fully fit stormers pack that the truth and it’s about time that was realised – afterall who is no 1?
6 Jul 2012, 23:13 pm
@cab(cab)-388: Stormers front row will get annihilated by either the Kiwi front row of Crusaders or Chiefs .. Lions front row had us for breakfast last weekend…
and Burger is tickets forget him he’s done.
Elstadt is the key ingredient in Stormers pack.. not Etsebeth… but we still need a couple props to stand up.. and I would start with Fourie at 2 like Bismark.. except we lose bulk up front that way.
Stormers pack should go
Vermeulen
Elstadt
Kolisi
Bekker
Etsebeth
Malherbe
Fourie
Kitshoff
Carstens, Liebenberg, Steenkamp, Armand.. and we in business … but only JUST
6 Jul 2012, 23:18 pm
@nama1(nama1)-400: If I were picking the loose trio for the first game of the season it would have been Daniel, Alberts, Kankowski. It was only because Kankowski got no game time (Plum’s mistake) that I wouldn’t have picked him if I were picking the loose trio for THIS game only (though Alberts’ injury forced the issue).
F Steyn was OK for his first game, though his kicking out of hand needs work. As I said earlier, he should have been kicking the ball over the sidelines rather than straight down the park because the Sharks’ lineout dominated (thanks to Kanko).
6 Jul 2012, 23:19 pm
We all know that the Bulls players are all k@k, every last one of them. This is only news to HM. It’s quite remarkable if you think we did not drop a single game against the Poms, in spite of all the Bulls in the team.
Did anyone watch how quickly Ellis was clearing the ball from the base. It was brilliant and something our 9s need to replicate. This three steps and then lob the ball toss that FDP brought into our game must stop.
Spies
Such a little girl. Whose c ock have you been sucking to make the boks?
6 Jul 2012, 23:20 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-402: Malherbe is shite. Being fat doesn’t make you a prop.
6 Jul 2012, 23:21 pm
Ja your frontrow is kak – but I rate kitshoff and Harris as perfect foils for that team – the setpiece is pretty much dood in any case but it’s something they do need to work on – kitshoff is young needs about 5 years but got plenty strength going to be a monster – Harris v mobile and gets through enormous tackle count balance well with elstadt and vermeulen coming through with the momentum – you got 7 or 8 in that pack that will drill allcomers – I said it from theceord ho when they beat the canes – normally stormers all about hype and puck the likes of koster – but no longer this is a moerse tough stormers pack and if they play with that attitude and their top dogs all repaired for playoffs – I reckon they win it at a canter.
2 problems tho – I think injuries have fkd them and 2. Coetzee will pick the wrong players and it’s even more crucial fiery crackers like fourie are picked
6 Jul 2012, 23:21 pm
400 @ nama1
No bru you’re wrong. According to his pom pom girls he was massive tonight…………excuse the pun lol
6 Jul 2012, 23:23 pm
Ja I’m not so sure about malherbe either – carstens v good bench prop
6 Jul 2012, 23:26 pm
Fourie is also far too lightweight and the scrum suffers when he is at hooker.
6 Jul 2012, 23:27 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-405: Malherbe and Kitshoff are both 20 years old .. and Malherbe is strong .. not fat.. only he’s VERY young for a tight head who needs a good 3 – 4 years learning and mastering the trade.. (only now is Jannie dup vaguely becoming tight head ready to take on the AB’s and I doubt he stands up to either Crockett or Woodcock or Franks.. they will destroy him.)..
But Malherbe is still better than Harris, and last week he was playing with a huge dose of flu f’ng him up… a front row prop playing with flu is no joke… coach should not have allowed it.. Carstens and Harris should have started.
6 Jul 2012, 23:28 pm
What about that drop kick from Fransie? From within his half. The ball actually rolling on the ground all the way to the Bulls goal line.
Man, that was hillarious.
Like Yesus v/d Westhuizen a few years back.
Stuffing up a try opportunity with JP on his outside by breaking inside into the defence. Fortunately JPP scored his try right after that.
6 Jul 2012, 23:28 pm
Elstadt has also been nowhere this year. Truth be told, he played a lot better at 4.
6 Jul 2012, 23:30 pm
What was the distance of Fransie’s penalty.
6 Jul 2012, 23:31 pm
Frans steyn was one utterly brilliant selection by meyer – just got to keep him hungry for tge game and off tge burgers – I’d play frans and de jong at centre for boks and all he’ll could break lose we might actually have dangerous centers again
6 Jul 2012, 23:32 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-410: Kitshoff I rate, Malherbe I don’t. Is that muscle on Malherbe’s face? I don’t think so. Flu or no flu, he got his *** handed to him last week.
6 Jul 2012, 23:32 pm
Frans also thought he’d smash through a pack of Bulls players……………….then got held up and pushed back. Nowhere to hide now. Now everybody sees his mediocrity!
6 Jul 2012, 23:33 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-412: The only issue with Eldstadt is the number of penalties he gives away. As an enforcer, this will be reduced over time and he learns his trade. He and Kolisi have been huge for the Stormers and stating any different is only showing ignorance. The biggest issue the Stormers will be facing in the next few weeks is selecting their starting trio.
6 Jul 2012, 23:33 pm
Fourie is a must in the Stormers setup
Fourie, Etsebeth, Kolisi, Elstadt and Vermeulen will donner all comers as long as the 2 props can vaguely hold some parity
Fourie is the fire in the belly of that pack.. Liebenberg got some go but he’s nowhere near the firecracker rip roaring pack of dynamite that Fourie is…
Liebenberg offers bulk so only better in set pieces but in loose Fourie, and kolisi are King
at ball carry and collision crunch time, Vermeulen, Elstadt, Kolisi, Etsebeth and Steenkamp will moer this Sharks outfit.
Only Sharks hammer us at front row and if Alberts is firing.. otherwise they don’t stand up to our fully fit trio
6 Jul 2012, 23:35 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-413: About 55 metres I think.
6 Jul 2012, 23:36 pm
Ja you right to an extent kaksoek elstadt should go to 4 playing like brad thorne and etsebeth to 5 burger at 6 kolisi at 7 and vermeulen at 8 that could work too – but time will tell which players are actually available – they also not going to be match sharp
6 Jul 2012, 23:36 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-415:
He never got his arse handed to him previously this season so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
6 Jul 2012, 23:37 pm
@RefuGSpot(garth)-417: Sorry, Elstadt hasn’t impressed this year. Last year yes, this year no.
6 Jul 2012, 23:38 pm
Nama
u talking about whacko jaco who ran up the poles?
6 Jul 2012, 23:38 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-394:
> Both Spies and Kankowski are garbage c
Spies is kak useless and I don’t know how little he’ll have to do for how long, to finally get kicked off the team
Kanko’s like WO, they both do excellent work in Super Rugby, but they suck in th Bok team
> compared to Vermeulen and Alberts and Josh Strauss
Minnie too
6 Jul 2012, 23:39 pm
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-418: I think Fourie is an impact player – better at 6 than at 2, though he can do a job there for 20 minutes.
6 Jul 2012, 23:40 pm
Yukkell stukkel that thorne was a great no 4 lock – trust the kiwis to think outvthe box and get someone from league without the height who totally breaks the mould. Thorn will be hugely missed by the ABs
6 Jul 2012, 23:40 pm
@cab(cab)-420:
That will be a moerse 4,5,6,7, and 8. And Bekker can play off the bench as his body seems to be incapable to handle the rigours of super 15 rugby.
Burger wont play again this season again though.
6 Jul 2012, 23:41 pm
@cab(cab)-420: Sounds good to me. Bekker has been woeful most of the year – his back is shattered.
6 Jul 2012, 23:45 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-425:
Agree- he cannot throw into the lineouts and the front row always seems to struggle whenever he starts- i reckon he is just too light and although he always pinches above his weight it does not make up (in the tight phases) for his lack of size.
6 Jul 2012, 23:49 pm
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-407:
Some people are sooo freakin blind.
Imagine Adi having a game like that.
Oops…
@cab(cab)-423:
Yebo.
6 Jul 2012, 23:50 pm
Robbiez\kaksoeker
just dunno which bekker is going to show up – sone damn at wp tho – I reckon elstadt etsebeth bekker steenkamp are all top locks – juandra is good too. Basically should be the 5 bok locks – flip and steenkamp probably off next rung – but wp got at least 3 of tge 4 top locks.
6 Jul 2012, 23:52 pm
Burger is finished kiss the has been goodbye… and our best open side is Fourie.. but he must start at 2 with Liebenberg off bench not starting… as long as we got 3 props who can hold parity for 80 minutes .. but that is our biggest problem is propping up the set scrum up front exactly like Reds teams are..
Elstadt can Start at 7 and shift to 4.. Play Steenkamp and Armand (who is also a big boy) off bench
Kolisi, Elstadt, Vermeulen
shift Fourie to 6 and Elstadt to 4 second half when Bekker comes off and if Etsebeth gets tired bring on Steenkamp
Kolisi and Armand can cover 7 and 8 second half.
6 Jul 2012, 23:55 pm
@cab(cab)-431: It’s sad, but I think Bekker is finished. Even when he has played, he has moved like an old man. I hope he proves me wrong, but I doubt it. I think Kruger is our best No. 5 lock, Etsebeth and Elstadt both good 4s.
7 Jul 2012, 00:00 am
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-425:
Fourie is a hooker who can help out at 6 in an emergency.
He is no loose forward in the true sense of the word. Would not know the running lines if he starts there. Much like Kolisi was nowhere to be seen at no. 8 last week. Expect him to perform much better at his usual position tomorrow.
7 Jul 2012, 00:02 am
@nama1(nama1)-434: Fourie is a poor man’s Schalk Brits.
7 Jul 2012, 00:02 am
Deon Fourie should be Bismarks understudy at Boks not Strauss or Chili
Deon Fourie is the best No.2 in the country behind Bismark
Boks should go
Vermeulen
Alberts
Coetsee
Kruger
Etsebeth
JdP
Bismark
Beast
Steenkamp, Fourie, Elstadt, Kolisi, .. if its a 4 / 3 bench
7 Jul 2012, 00:05 am
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-435: way better than Schalk Brits.. and better than Adriaan Strauss or Chili as he’s proved already and will prove again tomorrow, .. and like he’s proved once already against Bismark this year.
7 Jul 2012, 00:08 am
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-437: You’re smoking your socks, Skop. But to each his own.
7 Jul 2012, 00:11 am
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-437: Fourie would be handed his *** by all and sundry at Test level.
7 Jul 2012, 00:11 am
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-437:
He cannot throw into the lineouts and he is not a good in the scrums – thats why he will never play for the boks.
7 Jul 2012, 00:13 am
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-438:
I’ve been proved right often enough.. and on this one too I’m right.
Deon Fourie is next best hooker in the country to Bismark and should be on Boks bench…
if Heyneke got half a brain he’d realize his best 8 in the country is Vermeulen and his next best 2 in the country is Fourie .. not Strauss or Chili. ( with Chili better than Strauss)
and that palooka Potgieter who he played with Kankowski and Spies and Coetsee against England he’s damn lucky that fiasco didn’t cost him a loss .. which by rights it should have. If it were AB’s he would have gotten OWNED.
7 Jul 2012, 00:15 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-440:
He’s the best No.2 behind Bismark.. and he gonna show you why tomorrow.
7 Jul 2012, 00:16 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-440: He’s not in a listening mood
7 Jul 2012, 00:21 am
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-439: says who.. you?
try him at Boks and I guarantee you nobody take that No.2 spot away from him on the bench again behind Bismark.. not one hooker in the country.. and Bismark would have to work hard to keep him on the bench, but thats the right combo..
Steenkamp, Bismark, JduP, Etsebeth, Kruger, Coetsee, Alberts, Vermeulen
Beast, Fourie, Elstadt, Kolisi (and another No.3 if we go 5/2 which is recommended)
and we can take AB’s
Play Meyers combo we tried against England and we are toast….
7 Jul 2012, 00:22 am
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-435:
Don’t think so.
He does his hard yards up front unlike Brits who like to stand in the back line.
fourie’s play with ball in hand is a bonus. Watch him closely tomorrow. His not shy to mix it up with the big boys up front.
still some way for him to go to really be in contention for national honours imo.
On the Bulletjies. Just how kak are they really. Four losses in five matches now. Not even His Meyerness, coaching them while he was supposed to coach the Bokke, could help them today.
I’ll not be surprised at all if Elton, Baardman and the other shamateurs moer them next week.
It’ll still be funny though.
7 Jul 2012, 00:23 am
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-443:
I agree with Skoppie 85-90% of the times but certainly not this time. As a Stormer supporter I wont mind if Fourie has the game of his life tomorrow but I have seen enough of his erratic throwing into the lineouts over the last 2 years to be convinced me that he is never going to get it right. And it cannot be coincidental that the scrums are nearly always under pressure when he starts ahead of Vermeulen.
He does punch above his weight though but imo it’s just not good enough for the top level.
7 Jul 2012, 00:25 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-446:
Vermeulen should read Liebenberg
7 Jul 2012, 00:28 am
My take on how things will pan out in the next three weeks.
Log positions after next week. Only the top six.
1. Stormers
2. Chiefs
3. Reds (Yes, the Brumbies are going to lose tomorrow and next week and tumble out of the top 6)
4. Crusaders
5. Bulls
6. Sharks
Play offs.
Reds vs Sharks… Reds win
saders vs Bulls… Saders win
Semi’s.
1. Chiefs vs Reds… Reds win
2. Stormers vs Saders …Stormers win
Final.
Stormers vs Reds
SSTTTTOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
7 Jul 2012, 00:34 am
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-441:
Did Potgieter, the one with the black hair, even played today?
Such a poor match if you have to compare it with the Chiefs/Saders match. To think that 80% of the Bok team will come out of this two teams (Bulls/Sharks)
7 Jul 2012, 00:41 am
Night all.
7 Jul 2012, 00:45 am
@nama1(nama1)-449:
I watched this game with some neutral people who had been watching the tennis before the rugby and were interested to see the result of the game.
halfway through second half one of the ladies who had been watching the tennis remarked that the rugby played by these teams compared to what she saw in the morning game between Crusaders and Chiefs was like chalk and cheese and why is our rugby so poor in comparison.
We got some way to go to be competitive to that level and our Bok coach should realize who in fact his best 22 are.. because I doubt he does after watching his selection process vs England
7 Jul 2012, 00:46 am
adios
7 Jul 2012, 01:05 am
Lekker slaap, Skop.
7 Jul 2012, 01:12 am
Where those traitorous twats who reckoned they would rather see Sharks lose to get rid of Plum…
Take that… 32 strokes… to 10 Lucky ones… And no ordinary team beats the mighty Bulls by 22 points… Fark me
The Fat Lady hasnt sung yet and these Sharks are a match for any team in the Comp at the moment…
Any team… anywhere…
Could this be the winning hand… I CAN feel it…
BOOM!
7 Jul 2012, 01:13 am
We are BLACK
We are WHITE
We are
We are
Farken DYNAMITE!
7 Jul 2012, 01:17 am
Talk about blowing your load before the fat lady has even undressed!……but then thats a bigheaded guppy for you
7 Jul 2012, 01:35 am
Big head with no stuffing.
7 Jul 2012, 02:24 am
Stormers to finish top would be the perfect result.
7 Jul 2012, 02:27 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-458:
The Stormers will finish top, because they are the best TEAM. And have the best supporters
7 Jul 2012, 02:33 am
@KeurboomPark(KeurboomPark)-459:
Crusaders will come to CT beat you there and then an all NZ final, perfect.
7 Jul 2012, 04:13 am
Well played Sharks. So far two good results for the Stormers. Now to make the most of it.
7 Jul 2012, 06:10 am
Well done Sharks Bonus point too
Knk Daniel and Coetzee must better than Spies, ” flop” and Dewald
Steyn’s presence big in the midfield .
Hope HM is taking note Bulls rugby not the answer
7 Jul 2012, 06:17 am
I dont think there is one Bull forward and not too many Sharks forwards who can off load in the tackle
Some how the South African game is based on forwards driving up and taking the tackle and going to ground and the support player is never expecting a pass so they never put them selves in position to keep the ball alive. The closet forwards are just there to clean out
True sometimes its best not to pass but watching Bulls players take the ball and flop to the ground time after time.
7 Jul 2012, 06:19 am
Most underrated player and captain Daniel
Can play 6 ,7 and 8 and has the speed plus outsmarts Spies to score the try
7 Jul 2012, 06:19 am
Ok well I am in the black hole time zone here on keo
7 Jul 2012, 07:01 am
Coach on a dry track the Bokke will get beaten by Aus and Ab’s this year, Meyers game plan is outdated and the forwards he selects aren’t skilled enough, Daniels is a1 far better option for the Bokke
7 Jul 2012, 07:01 am
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-464:
Daniel needs Albert and Deysel/Coetzee to team up with to be effective, I certainly agree he has plenty skills and brain for playing at the loose.
When getting into an undersized loose combo situation he becomes much less effective because he needs to put much more defensive emphasis into his game, thus he got lost in the motion.
The Bulls trio yesterday posed no real challenge, many tend to forget but the Bulls have lost 4 out of their last 5 games and the one which they won last week was nothing but a fraud by Marius Jonker!
7 Jul 2012, 07:11 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-466:
What’s the HM’s game plan? have seen none
The Series win vs the Poms is a hollow one, we know under honest refereeing the Boks would have lost it to a physically strong but otherwise lousy Pom test team, we know the shots calling chief M Styen is inadequate for the job and his partnership with Hougaard is disastrous one?
7 Jul 2012, 07:24 am
Just another fixed game to get 3 SA sides into the playoffs, like the Chiefs, ‘Saders game this morning tried to do for NZ.
Let’s be honest, how could any side beat a team containing Spies, Hougaard, Morne and Olivier without it being fixed?
7 Jul 2012, 07:29 am
congratulations to the sharks and all their fans…
your team looked every bit championship material…
7 Jul 2012, 07:30 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-454: at the Stadium supporting my team, the Sharks and then celebrating! Just a small correction, we were NOT willing them to lose! We ALL knew the team could play like that! Yet they produced performances that made them lose to the Lions! Where is the problem then? Had we played like this from getgo we would be topping the log!
7 Jul 2012, 07:33 am
Congratulations Sharks Supporters… Your team was superb – played like real champions and made the Bulls team look really mediocre.
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-471:
Ignore the trolls! We know how dedicated you are to your team and well done to them too…
7 Jul 2012, 07:33 am
466 true but forward dominance based around Steyn kicking for territory seems to be what they are attempting the execution has been poor though
ufo they will have to travel a long way and win
7 Jul 2012, 07:38 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-473:
stating the obvious bud… but yes they would… and with the way they played last night i wouldn’t bet against them doing just that…
they do/did travel well…
SharksGirl
I echo Bill’s thoughts… you don’t have to convince anyone… you know what you feel and think… that’s all that counts…
7 Jul 2012, 07:39 am
Mcleod had a great game, if he plays well, the Sharks play well. Completely outshined Hougaard. If we had Lambie in the flyhalf position it would have been all over by halftime. Comparing Kanko with Spies is unfair, Kanko did more in that first half than Piertjie Masterbeurtjie did the entire season.
For next week, I would like to see:
1. Beast, 2. Bissie, 3.Jannie, 4. Sykes, 5. Du Toit, 6. Coetzee, 7. Alberts, 8. Kanko, 9. Mcleod, 10. Lambie, 11. Mvovu, 12. Frankensteyn, 13. Jordaan, 14. JPP, 15. Ludick
Herbst, Burden, Bresler, Deysel, Daniel, Freddie, Odwa – on da bench.
7 Jul 2012, 07:48 am
UFO they’ll probably face the Brumbies so a 50 50 game which is a lot better than going to Chch, bye bye Bulls
7 Jul 2012, 07:49 am
@David(David)-469:
Bulls’ scrum was notably weak yesterday, bailed out by Peiper who is smart enough a lawyer then to implicate himself in such a one sided game, he did help the Bulls by not pinging them on many occasions where he should
The Bulls still have some quality players in Dewald, Greyling, Kruger and Hougaard if played a roaming wing.
You are right about Spies: just too many in SA from various sections and opinions wrote him off a while ago, they can’t all be that wrong.
7 Jul 2012, 07:51 am
@fitz1ella(fitz1ella)-451:
Come on boet. The NZL brand of rugby is more attractive to the ‘non rugby fan’. But not always more effective.
But I see your point on the best 22 (HM still needs to find it).
7 Jul 2012, 07:52 am
I hope Heineke Meyer watched the game and realised how mediocre some of his previous Blue Bok selections were. Steyn, Olivier, Basson, Potgieter, Spies, Werner, Greyling… They are so weak and over-rated it is embarassing…
7 Jul 2012, 07:53 am
Frans Steyn adds 20% to the Sharks game. The guy is brilliant!!!
7 Jul 2012, 07:56 am
478 the NZ brand of rugby can play tight or loose when required
7 Jul 2012, 07:56 am
Damn this is funny.
Is anyone surprised at the Sharks team’s ongoing battle what I call, “A fragile mental state”? Just look at the fans….Their team win in a wonderful fashion, and Sharks fans (who last week were frantically signing petitions to get rid of Plum, and coming up with justifications like: It is better for the Boks if the Sharks lose…) run onto this blog and instead of celebrating their team – they start taking aim and swipe at the Stormers
This dear friends, is indication of the fragile mental state that enshrouds Sharks rugby. If the fans toughened up a bit, the team might just do so as well.
C-L-A-S-S-I-C.
7 Jul 2012, 07:57 am
@coma(coma)-475:
How many more dropped passes will Mvovo get away with?
He systematically runs ahead of the passer and when realises the pass is a hospital one he simply drops it with a matching show boat of ‘remorse’
Sure, he did put a tackle on the geriatric tortoises Ndungane who can’t side step and never able to cut inside on a one on one situation.
7 Jul 2012, 07:58 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-471: Stick to your guns girl.
You are saying that ending 6th year in and out is not good enough – many would and DO agree.
7 Jul 2012, 07:59 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-482:
They are all of a sudden the best in SA!!! I like it though… BUT
…if this Shark side can be more consistent then they could be a pretty decent side…
7 Jul 2012, 08:02 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-480:
Both Sharks centres did a man job, unlike the bickering here, WO, JJ and Hougaard actually attacked the middle and often so,,,,
7 Jul 2012, 08:02 am
Where is Whitney…
Hey you said the Sharks loose trio wasn’t good enough to man up to the Bulls. You obviously forgot that it was two against three as Britney would go missing in action and yes she did… How unusual…
7 Jul 2012, 08:04 am
Tac please come and give your unbisased take on the game…
7 Jul 2012, 08:06 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-485: Those who I refer to know who they are
I think their Stormers obsession gets in the way of any reasonable thinking at times. I’m just relieved that the Sharks realised the Stormers are SA’s best hope in this tournament. They did what they did last night for us……..
7 Jul 2012, 08:07 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-489:
Yes they did! I raise my glass to them…
I know who you referring too…
7 Jul 2012, 08:08 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-489: J Potgieter and Spies…..If there has been a more woeful display from 2 loosies in the tournament thus far, I would like someone to name the game.
But, sure as Sunday – their names will be there come rugby championship, and that alone makes me feel physically sick.
7 Jul 2012, 08:08 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-483: I am on here allot, hardly ever comment, but know enough to realize you dislike any player that’s not Lilly white. Mvovu has always given it his all – get on with life man!
7 Jul 2012, 08:10 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-476:
hehehe…
i’m not saying bye-bye anyone… there have been plenty of significant upsets this season so i will not be taking anything for granted…
bulls will bounce back i have no doubt…
this could still go any which way but the expected…
7 Jul 2012, 08:17 am
@ufo(ufo)-493: Anything can still happen. For us though – the pressure has been taken off somewhat (which is not necessarily a good thing, as it might have been interesting to see what we would have done today if the Bulls had got 5 out of the game: would we have gone for broke, or the 4 point win?)
I still think the boys should go for broke today – we have a real chance of topping the log, and if it backfires, we have the safety net in place courtesy of the Sharks.
7 Jul 2012, 08:19 am
As Shark supporters we are not oblivious to the fact that we are our own worst enemies, hot one week, not so the next. I believe Plum is good coach, but he is not great, definitely not that far off AC and Ludeke . I would love to see what a guy like Mallet can do with this team with Campo coming back for another stint as backline coach. Potentially, we are the best team in the SA conference, hands down!
7 Jul 2012, 08:19 am
As we nearly always do speak about these things on keo with all our surfing and diving buds…
another shark attack… in the cape… but not fatal thank goodness…
Rico Menezies, NSRI Stilbaai station commander, said:
“At 17h15 on the afternoon of Friday, 06th July, NSRI Stilbaai volunteer sea rescue duty crew and the SA Police Force and Cape Nature, were activated following reports of a man bitten by a shark while surfing at Sandstrand (Sand Beach), Jongensfontein, 20 kilometers up the coast from Stilbaai – North East of Cape Town, approximately half way between Cape Town and Mossel Bay.
“NSRI Stilbaai volunteer sea rescue duty crew, Cape Nature and Police responded to the scene where the victim was found on the beach suffering two serious lacerations to his left upper leg and serious lacerations to his left knee with serious blood loss but conscious.
“NSRI Stillbaai medics and local doctor, dr. Pieter Joubert, treated the man on-scene, stabilizing him using tournique bandaging and intravenous fluid replacement, to compensate for massive blood loss, and oxygen therapy, and an ER24 ambulance was summoned and the patient has been transported to hospital in a serious but stable condition.
“He was surfing with friends and we believe that his fellow surfers, who reportedly witnessed the incident, removed him from the water.
“Initial estimates, based on the eye-witness accounts, and from the bite marks we estimate the shark to have been between 4 and 4.5 meters but the species of shark is not yet confirmed.
“The victim, 29 year old Jacque Mostert, from Eldorado Park, Centurion, Gauteng, was on holiday with friends.
“The parents of the victim, in Centurion, have been informed and they are reassured that their son is doing well and in good care.”
7 Jul 2012, 08:20 am
and this update…
NSRI spoke to Jacques Mostert, 29, from Centurion, this morning by telephone and he is in good spirits and recovering well in a Mossel Bay hospital.
He told us that his friend had exited the water while they were surfing and on his way out of the surf he was circled by a shark which bit him and he managed to swim out of the surf after being bitten and his friends ran into the water to help him out of the water before raising the alarm.
Hospital staff and doctors at Life Bayview hospital in Mossel Bay stitched his wounds last night and he remains in hospital receiving treatment but he is out of danger.
7 Jul 2012, 08:23 am
@coma(coma)-495: I would put it this way: You have an extremely talented pool of players, who as a team SHOULD always be right up there, near the top.
Until your consistency is sorted out, you have an obvious weakness, which costs you dearly on a regular basis. This means – you are not the best, because the best still win: even when they dish up utter garbage on the field.
7 Jul 2012, 08:24 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-494:
i don’t believe the pressure is off really…
but i do agree that the guys should go for broke today and get the bonus point to try and top the log… a home final would be a great bonus if we are to really win this thing…
but a long way to go in terms of getting there… IF we get there…
got the cheetahs to worry about today… that’s all i’m looking at…
7 Jul 2012, 08:25 am
@coma(coma)-495:
I agree with you that the Sharks team on paper is good. Individually they are very good players. The problem is that they don’t always gell as a team. Rugby is a team sport and you need to gell week in and week out. The Lions Currie Cup team of last year was an example of a team that gelled with no real stars. They do have the potential to be the best no doubt.
7 Jul 2012, 08:25 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-498:
Snap…
7 Jul 2012, 08:29 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-481:
You can, but you do battle a bit when it comes to mauls, just ask the Baby Blacks
But look, on a dry day the neutral fan will prefer the NZL’s style. That’s why so many people who know nothing about rugby support the All Blacks because they ‘like how they play’.
It’s like how so many people support Brazil come world cup time.
7 Jul 2012, 08:29 am
The Sharks are very quickly become the ‘France’ of the Super 15.
7 Jul 2012, 08:32 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-486:
JJ is very good player. Probs the best of the Bulls backs. Big, strong and bloody fast!!!
Tim Whitehead has some pretty average top end pace. I know Spies is quick, but he really laboured down the touchline.
7 Jul 2012, 08:34 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-500: Every team has the potential to be the best
But BEING CALLED the best, is not based on potential….but on results. Hopefully some of the Sharks fans will understand this, one day.
Until you end up top – you are an also ran, just like everyone else
7 Jul 2012, 08:36 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-505:
Of course the log never lies or maybe it does…
7 Jul 2012, 08:36 am
Can someone give me the following stats for the 2 invisible men last night (Spies and J Potgieter) tackles,linebreaks, running meters, steals, offloads. Quite a few zeros I’d guess…
7 Jul 2012, 08:37 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-504: JJ’s defence has always been suspect, and he did nothing last night to make me change my mind. If Heyneke has visions of JJ wearing the Bok 13 jersey one day – JJ better start focusing on his D.
A 13 with weak D is never going to make the cut.
7 Jul 2012, 08:38 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-507:
I can’t! But I can say that they are both pretty average players who should never be let loose near a Bok jersey ever again… My opinion of course…
7 Jul 2012, 08:38 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-500: That is the problem – gelling, and I guess that’s where coaching and the right attitude comes in. It is obviously allot more difficult doing it with a team of stars, but it is possible – Barcelona and Bayern Munich is prime examples. Good recruiting is also vital, currently we have too many players that was recently acquired for the first team not getting enough game time – its all fine to have depth, but would Bosman, Joubert (nowhere in the pecking order), Viljoen, Ludick (to a lesser extend), Deysel really be enjoying life in Durban atm, I dont think so, probably why Kanko decided to go to Japan during the CC.
7 Jul 2012, 08:39 am
I think its time for a Stormers thread.. STORMERS – the #1 team in SA !!!
7 Jul 2012, 08:41 am
@coma(coma)-510:
The bench players will always look at greaner pastures somewhere else…
7 Jul 2012, 08:46 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-507: I can’t give you the stats, but I am watching a replay at the moment…..and it seems J Potgieter especially, was even kakker than what I originally thought. (And I rated him 2/10 last night…)
7 Jul 2012, 08:48 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-512: Bench and Fringe players should be reserved for veterans e.g. Terblanche and up and coming youngsters e.g. Steph-Du Toit, you need to put trust in your structures. Now and then one will shoot up early, like Coetzee and Jordaan, and that will cause problems if you already have a hand full of quality guys in that position with fresh contracts in their pockets – I guess we can offload a few to the Kings come 2013.
7 Jul 2012, 08:54 am
What’s all this rubbish about NZ teams style better suited to dry fields? The NZ climate isn’t that different to the NH, and the ABs are far more successful on their NH tours than we are. The major difference is in skills which give the players far more options to adapt to different playing conditions.
7 Jul 2012, 08:54 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-471: Ahem… I quote you:
232.Sharksgirl:
3 Jul 2012, 19:23 pm : “And HG is the only one that is hoping for a Sharks win this weekend most of us supporters are hoping for an entirely new coaching set up at the Sharks.”
Am I the only Sharks supporter hoping for the Sharks win?
Funny that, maybe you should stick to your original guns.
Why are you happy that the Sharks fcked up the Bulls… You should be angry…unhappy because “Plumtree and his clowns” engineered a mighty win by the dynamite… and the way the Sharks are playing they can beat any team anywhere.
The close losses to Stormers in the first game (where a ref gimme penalty handed the game on a platter after the Sharks dominated the Stormers “A” Team)
and the Tahs game notwithstanding – if those had gone the other way – and nothing other than fortune cookie bad luck prevented this from happening – the Sharks would be top of the SA log…
Thats how this cookie has crumbled… But the Sharks are still in with a shout. And you know what – A game against Brumbies in Canberra wont be half bad to play in the playoffs.
While you and all your rather dimwitted Shark “supporting” getalong gang at Sharksworld use some fuzzy future excellence as an excuse to not support the Sharks in the present – me, myself and the rest of the diehards (according to you, only me) will be supporting the current Sharks in the here and now in their quest to damn well win this comp this year… However I do know that there are a sizeable, but silent majority who do support Plum and actually do support this current Sharks team.
And the way they are peaking, plus the return of Lambie and Alberts, I can bet many a coach and many a team would prefer not to face the Dynamite in any backs to the wall playoff game…
So, while the likes of you “faithful” head to KP in your search for a little piece of schadenfreude at a Sharks loss which can then justify calling for Plum’s head at your Braais in the carpark afterwards and bandy substitutes such as Stonehouse around on your getalong gang clueless Shark “supporting” blogs – the REAL Sharks BARNEYS ARMY will be right behind the PRESENT Sharks and Plum.
7 Jul 2012, 08:55 am
@coma(coma)-514:
Look at Sadie! He wanted a guarenttee that he would start games. Province couldn’t do that, so he moved. Now he can’t even make the bench… Pollard the same I guess… Can you see Morne being dropped? Never…
7 Jul 2012, 08:56 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-505: And the Conference “Title” is Top?
And there I was thinking it was actually about winning the whole damn thing…?
7 Jul 2012, 08:57 am
Bullies are finished, even if they pick up 5 points next week they travel to saderville where they are going to be raped by 50+ points. That will set the rot in with their kak pack of forwards who are more ugly than scary. Bye bye bullies.
Guppies will moer the Rebels next week and will face Jake in the playoff where they will fall.
In the end it will be the Stormers vs the Saders and the Chiefs vs the Brumbies. CapeSaders will crawl out of their holes in their thousands, like excited little roaches and flood Newlands to cheer their team on, brokebacks will be brokenhearted, again.
In the end the real trophy, not some scalled down little trinket, will go to either the Chiefs or the Saders.
7 Jul 2012, 08:58 am
@coma(coma)-495: I agree with you. I like Plum and not calling for his head yet, he needs to sort out our inconsistent performances. But when his time does come, Mallet or Brendan Venter are the type of coaches that could get the Sharks fired up for every game.
7 Jul 2012, 09:00 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-518: Which the Sharks have never done…..just like us you are
7 Jul 2012, 09:02 am
Got to love the general state of cluelessness of the average Rugger “connoisseur” on this Keo site…
Absolutely clueless… Standards truly have dropped in this little getalong gang zone…
And it is fairly obvious that the majority of fools and women here have never ever bled with a brother on a field of dreams in this Game played in Heaven…
Therefore you fools will never understand this great game, no matter how much bullshitt “knowledge” you spew in support of your “expertise” and commentary….
7 Jul 2012, 09:05 am
Am loving the general unhappiness at this Sharks win…
From the local multinics to those self professed Sharks “supporters” who were hoping for a loss….
Luvving it
While the REAL Sharks diehards, the Last Outpost Bananaboys, are there in spirit with OUR Black and White DYNAMITE…
Its a Beautiful Day…
7 Jul 2012, 09:06 am
@RL(RL)-519:
Stormers play the rebels…sharks the cheetahs…
7 Jul 2012, 09:08 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-523:
You would make a great Stormer supporter. We stick with our team through thick and thin, through good times and bad times.
7 Jul 2012, 09:10 am
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-525:
Morning buddy! For sure we do! In sickness and in health …
7 Jul 2012, 09:10 am
If I was a Sharks supporter I wouldn’t be too chuffed with this win, the Bulls were pathetic, it was like an under 16D team playing the under 19 A’s. After the game I sat and wondered what a Stormers A team would have done to this lot of pretenders at Loftus, instead of the Stormers C team.
The Bulls have too many passengers, players with big names but no balls and brains. I’m hoping the Lions put this lot of pretenders out of their misery next weekend.
7 Jul 2012, 09:11 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-521: But that has never been my point… My team being “at the top” while a competition still has to be won or lost…
And that is the crux of your foolishness… You believe the conference “title” is the “Top”…
Wakey, wakey…
Its not.
Winning the trophy is. Only 2 SA sides have done it – the Bulls and the Lions. The Sharks are the team thats come closest, the most – especially in an era when most SA teams just sha.t themselves with the prospect of meeting an ANZAC side…
The Stormers however have been conference “title” holders…. The “Top”…. BWAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHHAAAAAAH
Dillybitch
7 Jul 2012, 09:11 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-524: correct gummy, all 3 SA teams need 5 points for my finals prediction to come true.
7 Jul 2012, 09:12 am
Oh put a sock in it herr gwathole.
Suddenly you have a problem with women on the site
And you are the one dropping the standards around here
Down to your gutter level
7 Jul 2012, 09:14 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-522: Got to love the general state of cluelessness of the average Rugger “connoisseur” on this Keo site…
harsh words coming from the leader of the pack.
7 Jul 2012, 09:16 am
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-525: Blasphemy… Me, a good Stormers supporter… WTF?
But I laaik you IAAS or even IAAB… Respect, cuzzie. A true supporter. Not one of these faux knowledged fools masquerading as experts on this here Stormer propaganda machine…
Probably even have more than a few chiboolies with you after a game too…
7 Jul 2012, 09:17 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-528: Coming closest the most but still no cigar, lol.
7 Jul 2012, 09:17 am
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-525:
Hey buddy! You can choose your friends… be carefuly very careful… someone is trying very hard.
7 Jul 2012, 09:18 am
Observing from 6000 miles away,the reason the Stormers are near the top of the log and the Sharks and Bulls struggling,is that the Stormers perform well away from home,and the others don’t. I recall seeing the Sharks play in New Zealand earlier in the season and they looked pretty inept,dropping the ball etc. The Bulls are often rampant at home,but although they did better in the Antipodes this season,are vulnerable away from Loftus.
It’s as simple as that.
7 Jul 2012, 09:19 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-526:
Howzit Bill. Nervous ahead of today’s game knowing what the Cheetahs are capable of. I’ll be happy with a win today but a 4 try bonus would be great. The Cheetahs will be trying to play a high paced game – but the Stormers must just stick to their structures.
7 Jul 2012, 09:22 am
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-536:
The bonus point will be handy but the win first…
7 Jul 2012, 09:24 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-530: “Women” on this site? No I just see through you individuals who profess to be “women”…
Here’s some advice, Proud Mary, how about acting like the woman you want to be treated like… Then maybe you get treated right, yeah?
Cause and Effect… Simple.
Reap the whirlwind.
While I will just be happy with Plums Sharks giving a collective middle finger to those “multitudes” of Sharks “supporters” who were willing “their” team to fail last night…. And of course that peculiar breed of Stormer supporter in the majority here who has never played the game yet posts here as if they have inside knowledge and expertise… Lol
Luvving it.
7 Jul 2012, 09:25 am
@papashanga(papashanga)-535: the brokebacks only play for 4 points – they bore other teams to death but always give away a bonus point to their victim.
So every convict and kiwi team is +1 against the Stormers if they do lose to them.
7 Jul 2012, 09:25 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-523: Unhappiness? You are on crack. I am as chuffed as a Zimbo at Mugabe’s funeral with this win. Fortunately, your team felt the mental strength and positive vibes from Stormer fans, and chose to focus on that, rather than on the fragile weaknesses of their own fans
7 Jul 2012, 09:26 am
@Archiball Bearasole(Archibal Bearasshole)-533: Yes… And what are your other 5 or 6 Nics, Mr or Miss MacMulti?
7 Jul 2012, 09:26 am
@RL(RL)-539:
Whereas the rest of the SA teams give 5 pointers to the Antipodes… Your point… Check the log…
7 Jul 2012, 09:28 am
Which team has never concended a four try bonus point to the opposition? No freebies from that side…
7 Jul 2012, 09:28 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-528: Bhwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa – the fact that you are celebrating how CLOSE the Sharks have come kind if cancels out ANY logic you tried to represent in your previous posts.
That is your pinnacle? I thought winning the whole thing was? Oxy-feck-ing-moron BEST LOSER Sharks,
7 Jul 2012, 09:29 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-540: Yes those “vibes” that take “your” team to the “Top”…. chuckles
While MY team gives the might Bulls a 4 try hiding… When last did the Stormers score 4 tries against the Bulls… Ah, yes, cumulative over 2 years – you might have scored 4 all together
But then again, you reckon “your” team is the “Top”… Lol
Truly dilly
7 Jul 2012, 09:29 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-544:
7 Jul 2012, 09:30 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-541: Close but no cigar.
7 Jul 2012, 09:31 am
Rugby is about winning!!! Some seem to think it is about scoring tries… How foolish
You lose six games in super rugby and then you are the best in SA…
7 Jul 2012, 09:31 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-542: only the Lions are +5 to the Antipodes. That’s our gift to them.
7 Jul 2012, 09:33 am
@RL(RL)-539:
The Stormers bore other teams to death. Oh really.
Mate, if the Lions were playing in my back garden, I’d close the curtains.
7 Jul 2012, 09:34 am
@RL(RL)-549:
… and watch them go and beat the Bulls next week… You heard it first here… Their gift to you for final super 15 game… Kinda like a going away pressie…
7 Jul 2012, 09:34 am
The Fritzl Freak HeavenShame is the most faux of all faux rugby groupie wannabes.
@ 528
And that is the crux of your foolishness… You believe the conference “title” is the “Top”…
Wakey, wakey…
Its not.
The Sharks are the team thats come closest, the most – especially in an era when most SA teams just sha.t themselves with the prospect of meeting an ANZAC side…
So how stupid and faux must one be to castigate another for coveting coming close but not winning (not that PedigreeChum did anything of the sort) and then immediately going on to brag about coming the closest most often but not winning? What a fuckingarroganttwat fool who has his head so far up his ownass his can’t see the contradiction of his puerile post. And now the Sharks are the only team that doesn’t fear the ANZAC sides? How often have the Sharks beaten all NZ sides? You are an idiot and boastful dishonest braggart.
7 Jul 2012, 09:35 am
Frans Steyn, Doc DuP, Kanko, Fred the Shred and Bissy were immense last night.
The prodigal son returns and what a difference he makes. Not only being a tackler magnet, freeing up space for other players, but also team mates lift their game when playing with him…
Fark me, what a player. Glad to have him back.
Kanko made Spies look a bit below par last night… Good to have him back, now for some consistency and then the Bok 8 position is his for the taking…
Beyootiful!
7 Jul 2012, 09:36 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-544: LOL
7 Jul 2012, 09:38 am
ROBZIM@ 278.Gracious c omments.Thank you.
7 Jul 2012, 09:38 am
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-550: next week we travel to the bull pen and take on the cows +5 to the Lions and bye bye bullies from the playoffs. Watch that match for a dose of excitement.
7 Jul 2012, 09:39 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-545: My team is better than yours because the results say so
It is REALLY that simple.
7 Jul 2012, 09:40 am
@RL(RL)-556:
Now that is the spirit…
7 Jul 2012, 09:40 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-545:
Yes,but my point is that they were playing at home. I think there’s some kind of insecurity thing going on with a lot of sports teams. If they feel cosy with in familiar surroundings they perform well. If they feel lonely and afraid,i.e. playing away,they don’t.
Although I agree the Stormers have not exactly scored a lot of tries,they are more balanced mentally,and have worked out how to win,although often it’s not pretty.
The point made about ’4 tries’ is valid,but the laws of rugby and the log system being what it is,boring victory is preferable to glorious defeat.
The first test I ever watched was the All Blacks v Springboks 1960 at Newlands. I think the AB’s won 6-3. In those days they had a notoriously weak back line,and an amazing placekicker called Don Clarke. You were allowed to kick to touch from anywhere,and believe me they all did,yawn.
7 Jul 2012, 09:41 am
Sorry leave out ‘with’ in second line.
7 Jul 2012, 09:41 am
And Fred the Shred… Loving the fact that his contract with Toulon has started but the little Frenchie comes back to play for his team…
In his immortal words after a question posed to him when he was a Toulouse legend – “Toulousain, Le Sharks?”
“SHARKS FOREVER”
French or foreign connection at the Sharks… Legend… He continues a fine legacy… La Croix, Roumat, Lawton, Mexted, Brown, Townsend… and many more.
Bananaboy International.
The United Colours of Sharks
7 Jul 2012, 09:43 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-551: EXACTLY
7 Jul 2012, 09:43 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-7:
Interesting, indeed disgraceful, bit of history here is the way Van Rooyan tried to squelch Victor Matfield and dropped him for the House of Pain game in NZ where the AB’s won in the last move in the game – thanks to another botched John Smit throw-in. That was one win we should have had, having scored 3 tries to their one – but crucial to this was the absence of Matfield dropped by the corrupt Van Rooyan.
I don’t think anybody on earth can deny the Springboks do not suffer from its adminstrators and politicians more than any other team; other democracies wouldn’t put up with the stuff that goes on all the time in SA.
7 Jul 2012, 09:44 am
@RL(RL)-539:
that is factually incorrect. Blues, Highlanders, Reds, Hurricanes, and force got no points in their games against the stormers. they lost to the crusaders, and are yet to play the rebels. to date only the Tahs have got a losing bonus point from the stormers. and none have scored 4 tries against us.
what is true is that the SA sides have managed to get losing bonus points against the stormers. but that’s because of our generous nature in trying to help our brothers do better
. and of course only the sharks have beaten us so far. if we beat the cheetahs we’ll have won 7/8 against SA teams. and if we beat the rebels, we’ll have won 7/8 against the overseas teams.
all with a less talented squad than the bulls or sharks have. well according to heyneke’s selections anyway.
Anyone willing to bet against Allister taking over the bok job from heyneke one day?
7 Jul 2012, 09:47 am
@papashanga(papashanga)-559: I am not talking Stormers – apparently the “Top”…
I am talking my team… The Mighty Dynamite.
The SHARKS.
And they were very very good last night…
Not a bad away team – 2 wins on tour and one unlucky loss attests to that. However the game against the Canes was aberration.
Nevertheless, I reckon many Sharks players at the moment have gained a lot of confidence from being the mainstays in the Bok setup…
Especially someone like wrecking ball Coetsee…
It aint gonna be pretty for teams that have to face the Sharks from now ’til the final…
7 Jul 2012, 09:49 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-564:
At least AC would select on merit and not on who he had once coached. That is the difference. HM has proved to us that he is biased and only sees blue similar to a blogger who can’t see fault in the once mighty Blue…
7 Jul 2012, 09:50 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-557: Let me add in a “so far” and a “but the tournament actual is not over yet”… There… Correct.
However the Stormers have “won” the Conference “title” and have achieved what they wanted to do… So, season over?
I mean, apparently they are the “Top”…. BWAAAAAAHAAAAHAHAAA
7 Jul 2012, 09:52 am
I feel an upset on the cards today, the Waratahs to beat the Brumbies.
7 Jul 2012, 09:53 am
Examples of HM bias…
Niknaks man above Lambie
Spies ahead of Kanko
Olivier ahead of JdJ/Ebersohn
Basson ahead of Mvovo
Potgieter ahead of anyone else playing Super Rugby
I can go on… Point made…
7 Jul 2012, 09:53 am
@papashanga(papashanga)-559:
the only reason you get 4 try bonus points is because the aussies needed to make the game looser, faster and more attractive to fans of other codes in Aus so they could compete.
there is no valid rugby reason why a team should get points because they scored more tries. it is marketing and nothing more. fact a team can get beaten 65-35 and get a point is just stupid.
I know of no other sport in the world that gives you extra points. a win in simply a win. there is no degree of victory, except for bragging rights. it was introduced purely for marketing purposes and you’ve all fallen for it and now believe winning with 4 tries less consistently is more important than simply winning consistently.
maybe you’ll re-think that when the stormers top the log.
7 Jul 2012, 09:54 am
@Archiball Bearasole(Archibal Bearasshole)-568:
7 Jul 2012, 09:56 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-564: impressive indeed – I hope you guys pick up +5 today and nail position 1. I would love to see the the Stormers face the Saders in an away final, at Newlands in front of all the CapeSader fans.
7 Jul 2012, 09:56 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-567: Cut out all the dynamite, and it boils down to one question (a simple yes or no answer please – no essays):
You would prefer it if the Sharks were in the position the Stormers are currently in: Yes or No.
7 Jul 2012, 09:57 am
@Archiball Bearasole(Archibal Bearasshole)-568: I’ve tipped the Tahs on Bru (and I am having a 100% weekend thus far – so let’s hope so)
7 Jul 2012, 09:58 am
@RL(RL)-572:
Glad you are punting us for a final mate… AND you are not a Stormer… Treason to some I guess…
7 Jul 2012, 09:59 am
@RL(RL)-556:
It can be done. The Stormers have done it 2 years in a row.
@RL(RL)-572:
The Stormers playing an away final at Newlands? That’s not very funny.
7 Jul 2012, 10:00 am
the sharks, what a team.
they made me proud last night.
welcome back frans steyn, its clear you lift the sharks players massively.
the sharks will beat any other team in the compo playing like they did last night, like they did when they handed the stormers an *** whupping.
yes, you know its true.
7 Jul 2012, 10:00 am
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-576:
I would take that AWAY final any day of the week mate…
7 Jul 2012, 10:01 am
Where is this HG multinic exposay he been blabbing about
Waiting …
7 Jul 2012, 10:01 am
Outtahere…
Beautiful win last night makes my weekend complete already…
And the general unhappiness here at the ominous Sharks shadow about to loom over the playoffs is just a little bonus… A Cherry.
Now for the anticlimactic rest of the games after the Hardest Game in Rugby, to quote great Vic, was played last night…
Go Lions
Go Cheetahs
May you play to your potential and victory will be a mere formality…
Life is good.
Now for some breakfast and beer.
7 Jul 2012, 10:02 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-565:
mostly you post biased hyperbolic drivel, but as a bok fan first and stormers fan second, i was very pleased to see how the sharks boks played. and marcel will be a bok legend. awesome. like crusaders, the sharks are peaking at the right time, but probably too late to finish high enough on the log to actually challenge for the title, which is a shame. at least you’ll go into the rugby championship savouring good wins against the stormers and bulls at home.
and that’s as good as the sharks season will get, which is not even a real consolation prize is it
that loss to the brumbies probably the defining difference at the end of the season. well that and any of the other 5 losses so far. wait is that right, the sharks have lost 6 times this year? you’d never think that when reading your posts.
7 Jul 2012, 10:03 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-577:
Yes well done with the team. Rugby is game of one game at a time. You have to be on top of your game the whole season. Ifs and buts really count for nothing at the end of the day…
7 Jul 2012, 10:03 am
Great how this comp could work out, the Sharks haven’t played the Crusaders this year and they could be up against them in two weeks time and POP, the Stormers haven’t played the Chiefs and they could be up against them in the final.
The Bulls have the advantage next week having to play after the Sharks, do we win with a bonus point, no lets rather play the Brumbies.
7 Jul 2012, 10:08 am
@Archiball Bearasole(Archibal Bearasshole)-583:
stormers not playing brumbies or chiefs. could end up with a semi against one and a final against the other, although not something i’d put money on.
notwithstanding my post above… I hope they pick up 10 points in their last 2 games and give themselves a chance to top the log. with travel being such a factor, they are SA’s only chance of winning the comp this year and I don’t believe they’ll do it playing away from home.
7 Jul 2012, 10:09 am
Would be great for sharks to finish 6th, and go to canberra and get their revenge for the daylight robbery they suffered earlier in the season.
7 Jul 2012, 10:20 am
the stormers job just got a whole lot tougher…
Cape Town – Due to a bad dose of the flu, Craig Joubert has withdrawn from refereeing the Cheetahs v Stormers match in Bloemfontein.
Kick-off is at 15:00.
Marius Jonker will replace Joubert as referee.
The assistant referees remain Sindile Mayende and Reuben Rossouw, while Gerrie Coetzee will fulfil the TMO duties.
7 Jul 2012, 10:24 am
@ufo(ufo)-586: no need to worry, Jonker is pro Bull not pro Cheetah. Now stop with the stress and go and get the +5.
7 Jul 2012, 10:26 am
MJ the worst ref in Super Rugby. He is a staunch Blue Bull… Very worried… He owes them after teh demolition last night…
7 Jul 2012, 10:31 am
Coetsee is v promising but I start kolisi over him –
Ultimate Bok team that would give ABS a klap
1. Beast 2. Bismarck 3. Coenie 4. Elstadt 5. Etsebeth 6. Kolisi 7. Alberts 8. Vermeulen
16. Cilliers 17. D Fourie 18. Kruger 19. Coetzee
9. Hougaard 10. Goosen 11. Habana/jdv 12. Frans 13. De Jong 14. JP 15. Aplon
7 Jul 2012, 10:34 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-585: What are you smoking, the Sharks beat the Brumbies this year.
7 Jul 2012, 10:35 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-508:
True true. He is average on defense. But that’s more getting used to the 13 channel (after playing wing all his life).
7 Jul 2012, 10:40 am
1.Steenkamp 2.Bismark 3.Oosthizen 4.Bakkies 5.Etsebeth 6.Brussow. 7.Alberts. 8.Vermuelen 9 Hougaard 10 Goosen 11.Habana 12 Steyn 13 De Villiers 14. Pietersen 15. Lambie
7 Jul 2012, 10:41 am
@cab(cab)-589: Hougaard and De Jongh not good enough. Coenie is no tighthead, No real lineout jumper there and by leaving out the best player in SA – Coetzee, you are not seriously believing anybody will take you serious?
Spot on about Goosen though. Lambie at 15!
7 Jul 2012, 10:44 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-548:
In a PLAYOFF game rugby is ALL about winning.
In the Super Rugby leugue stages it’s about trying to pick up the odd bonus point as well.
Look, I’m praying the Stormers get 10 points from their next 2 games so they can end top, but they have really put themselves under so much pressure to do so by denying their obvious attacking problems.
The Stormers are still SA’s best chance for the title.
7 Jul 2012, 10:45 am
@Spiesisworthless1(Spiesisworthless1)-592: @cab(cab)-589: Why do you guys have the urge to change the bok front row? They were dominant last night, and were better than England, who never has a bad front row. Hougaard on the other hand was one of the weakest players against England, has no vision, and substandard pass, but i see you both have him in there. Ehh, no!
7 Jul 2012, 10:46 am
@coma(coma)-593: Hougaard is good enough, he must just concentrate on his natural game and not let Meyer turn him into a cheap Fdp imitation. He was great in the first 20 of the 2nd test playing his natural game- just needs more consistency.
7 Jul 2012, 10:47 am
@cab(cab)-589:
JDV will be at 13. Don’t forget who the captain is.
7 Jul 2012, 10:47 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-570:
Some good points.
The bonus points is also harsh on a side like the Sharks who’s home games are played in muggy humid conditions.
Same with the NZL teams who play in the wet.
The 4 try bonus point should scrapped (espically if you lose). The within 7 points bonus makes sense though.
7 Jul 2012, 10:47 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-594:
Do we know that… Two games to go… Let’s wait and see what happens…
Just good to see that teams go out to win, as winning is what sport is about. Like a chess game who can out think and outplay their opponent. Like someone said winning 65 – 35 and a four try bonus point given to the losing side makes no sense…
7 Jul 2012, 10:48 am
And yes I rate Coetzee, he’ll be on the bench defo and perhaps starting but not against Pocock and McCaw.
7 Jul 2012, 10:49 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-522:
I love the Sharks and will always support them no matter what! Considering the calibre of player we have, and as a die hard fan it frustrates the k@k out of me that we can beat the no1 team in the comp and the very next week get klaped by the worst! Why does this not bother you?
7 Jul 2012, 10:52 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-599:
Yeah look, like I said, I’m hope they get the full 10, because they won’t beat the Chief’s overseas.
I just think they’ve missed a trick by denying they have problems on attack. I’m not saying they should play 7′s rugby, but maybe firing Fleck would be a start.
7 Jul 2012, 10:55 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-602:
Harsh to say they won’t beat the Chiefs overseas as they have done pretty well travelling.
Stormers are playing percentage rugby but winning being the main objective and rightly so.
They have won games they would normally lose and have even beaten teams with their third choice players. Bulls game comes to mind. Saying they will lose is harsh.
7 Jul 2012, 10:55 am
The Sharks 12/13 crysis looks much better than it did 12 months ago.
Thank God. Before we had Bosman at 12 with M.Jobert at 13.
Now we have Steyn, Whitehead, Jordaan and JPP (if we need him).
Much better.
7 Jul 2012, 10:58 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-602:
Some people are even saying the Sharks and Bulls will lose when they travel in playoffs if they make it. I say on the day any team could win. The ball just needs to bounce in your favour.
Winning becomes a habit and so does losing. The Bulls have lost 4 out of 5. Very worrying if a Bulls supporter. The Sharks are starting to play good rugby but not consistent enough at the moment.
7 Jul 2012, 11:00 am
Well done Sharks great performance last night.
I must admit that on your day you are capable of making any team look very ordinary. But unfortunately consistency is the name of the game.
Very happy for Kanko, hope he can carry this form for the next few years.
7 Jul 2012, 11:00 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-603:
They do play well overseas. But the Chief’s are looking very very dangerous and my concern is that I don’t know where the Stormers will get points from against them.
If the Stormers had no injuries, then okay. But with the problems they have with injuries, I think they will have be at Newlands to win the title.
7 Jul 2012, 11:01 am
SARU conspiracy…sharks and Bulls made a deal to get the sharks into the finals.
7 Jul 2012, 11:02 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-607:
It would make it easier but we still have to beat the Cheetahs and the Rebels.
So many shocks that anything is possible. Won’t be counting my chickens though…
7 Jul 2012, 11:04 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-605:
I think the Bulls have what it takes to win a big game away from home. Maybe.
The Sharks can’t, and have shown this over the years.
The Sharks could make the semi’s (I would back them to beat the Brumbies).
But then they could potentially fly home to play the Stormers at Newlands (depending of course), and the fly back to NZL if they win that.
Matfield quite right said you can’t expect to win the title if you have play 3 away matches in the playoffs.
7 Jul 2012, 11:05 am
@wallabie.(wallabie.)-608:
Ssssssh. You not supposed to know that!
7 Jul 2012, 11:06 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-610:
Winning three in a row would be very tough. Let’s hope for one SA team to win…
Preferablly Stormers, but Sharks will do too…
7 Jul 2012, 11:08 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-607: I actually disagree with you here. The Chiefs are the Kiwi team I reckon the Stormers could take away from home.
The Saders – different story.
The Chiefs forwards have punched above their weight all season, and all credit to them. (Considering doubters like me thought their forwards would be weakness per-season). Their backline has performed as expected – brilliantly.
I still believe if the Stormers have their 1st choice forwards available, the Chiefs forwards ‘could’ be bossed about a bit……
If you don’t know where the Stormers are going to get their points from the Chiefs from, ask yourself where the Chiefs are going to get their points from against the Stormers
It would be tough – but Hamilton ain’t as daunting as Richie’s neck of the woods.
7 Jul 2012, 11:09 am
“. . . Keegan Daniel alluded the cover defence ., . .”. I guess your spell-checker wouldn’t complain, it can’t identify the ignorance of a totally incorrect word. But that’s “eluded”.
7 Jul 2012, 11:09 am
@wallabie.(wallabie.)-608: Hahahahahaha, you would know that is cr a p if you saw the tears in the Bulls players eyes after the game
7 Jul 2012, 11:12 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-613:
I agree with you on the Saders. The Saders in NZL scare the **** out of me. The Chiefs, not so much.
But I still don’t think the Stormers can beat them in a final, in Hamilton. SBW has added a huuuuge sense of belief in that Chiefs side. Cruden has also been in top form.
PS Has SBW ever been injured??? The guy hasn’t missed a game in 2 years!?
7 Jul 2012, 11:12 am
@wallabie.(wallabie.)-608: And Bryce wants them out
Had that try not been awarded, the Chiefs may well have won.
7 Jul 2012, 11:13 am
Coma – u make good solid purist rugby points – I still reckon that team I picked will win cos they’ll rule the breakdow. And collisions for longer and will give penetration
IAAS – he’s iffy as a kaptein and he’s limited on attackbat centre – got a great top end, unbelievable anticipate and finishes well – should be on the wing – we got better centres that can break tge line and cos allsorts of **** if our pack getting that frenetic go-forward
7 Jul 2012, 11:14 am
Have all the Bulls suporters eluded us… I alluded to it earlier though
7 Jul 2012, 11:14 am
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-606:
Ja, it kills me. We smash the Stormers. Get klapped by the Lions. Then smash the Bulls.
Viva le France.
7 Jul 2012, 11:17 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-620:
You smashed the Stormers? Ja you beat them and smashed the Bulls…
7 Jul 2012, 11:19 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-616: The Chiefs at Newlands, would be worse than the Chiefs in Hamilton mate – take it from me.
SBW has an almost David Koresh like following here in CT……..He caused 90% of the hysteria at Newlands last year when the Saders hit town.
I don’t think the Stormers, or their fans would want the SBW show down here again. (Even for a final…..)
Only kidding of course…bring the fekker back here for his payback
(If we get there…..)
7 Jul 2012, 11:20 am
The poor Blues could only beat the weak teams in the competition… Lions, Force, Bulls, etc…
7 Jul 2012, 11:20 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-621:
Ha ha, Well, we smashed the Stormers for 60min, and then let them get a couple ‘forward pass’ assisted tries
7 Jul 2012, 11:22 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-624:
What forward pass? Wasn’t the try awarded? If so it wasn’t forward… hehehehe – a great bonus point for the Stormers there…
7 Jul 2012, 11:23 am
For those eedjits who have forgotten what a humbling the Stormers received from the Sharks, why not remind yourselves of this very site’s post match report?:
Sharks power to crucial win
26 May 2012
JON CARDINELLI watched the Sharks manhandle the Stormers in their 25-20 victory at Kings Park on Saturday.
The scoreline will suggest the visitors were in the contest until the final whistle, and it does not do the Sharks justice. The hosts were in control for 60 minutes of this match, and it took a bit of luck and one particularly bad call from the referee to allow the Stormers to come close to completing a comeback win.
The words “power” and “manhandle” should refresh your bitter and lacking memories…
7 Jul 2012, 11:24 am
Klapping the Stormers and the Bulls feels just as good this morning as it did yesterday!
7 Jul 2012, 11:26 am
I just gotta laugh when i read that Coetzee must be benched so KOlisi for example can start, Kolisi has a few good games and is for sure a brilliant player and a future Bok if he can continue thet way he is playing
Coetzee however is into his 2nd full season and has been brilliant right through, what more does this kid need to do to prove you wrong?? or is it just plain simple that you dont like him so it matters not if he is best in the world, you still would not rate him?????????
plain stupid really to be honest,
7 Jul 2012, 11:26 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-626:
I remember we almost snatched the win in the end too. You guys were hanging on for dear life at the end of the game… Funny how we remember what we want to remember…
The final whistle couldn’t sound soon enough for the Sharks… The scoreboard don’t lie though… 25 – 20 close indeed…
7 Jul 2012, 11:28 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-626: I am going to ask you the same question I asked HG. All you have to do is answer yes or no.
Would you prefer to be in the position the Stormers are in right now? Yes/No/Not sure.
No essays – just answer the question.
(Were you not one of those getting terribly excited about the powerful Facebook petition to get rid of John Plumtree – change of heart, or just too weak to stick to your guns?)
7 Jul 2012, 11:29 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-628:
Well done with the win mate! You guys really handed out a can of whoopass to the Bulls. I must say I enjoyed every minute…
7 Jul 2012, 11:32 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-626: I’ll see your post, and raise you…
The Lions upset the odds by stunning the Sharks 38-28 in an all-South African Super Rugby clash on Sunday morning (NZ time).
The Lions began the match rooted to the bottom of the table with one win in 12 matches while the Sharks were in sixth position and in the hunt for a playoff place.
7 Jul 2012, 11:33 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-628: Who is whinging about Coetzee? I have not seen one negative comment about the kid.
Gawd you girls are precious.
7 Jul 2012, 11:34 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-630: sorry, don’t know about any petition. Haven’t been on here for a few weeks, busy with my real life and all that jazz.
The best the Sharks can finish is 6th… not good enough for a class team like the Sharks. We don’t do mediocrity (like some other teams’ supporters) see? So I’m all for Plumtree getting the boot. Don’t forget he has been at the helm for 4 years and has ended 6th, 9th, 6th and (at best) 6th. Not good enough for a team packed with Springboks.
As to your question… you do KNOW your team is lined up to play the Crusaders in a semi right?… let’s play 20 questions after that fixture shall we?
PS who will you support in that game? Stormers or Crusaders?
7 Jul 2012, 11:37 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-634:
Well we will at least know who you will be supporting in that game… Nothing better than the Cape Saders I say…
7 Jul 2012, 11:37 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-631: Thanks Boots, m\ust say i knew we could win, didnt expect to see the Bulls get slaughtered though
refreshingly nice it was lol
7 Jul 2012, 11:39 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-472: thank you Gumboots! Very proud of my team today! And may your team do the business tthis evening!
7 Jul 2012, 11:40 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-636:
I watched with my Bully friends. The Ref
wasn’t very good according to them… I just love it when the ref get’s blamed when I thought he was pretty good and of course that the Sharks were miles better… It was almost as good as when I went to Loftus to watch the Stormers thirds beat the Bully’s firsts… Enjoy the win…
7 Jul 2012, 11:41 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-637:
Thank you young lady! Gracious indeed. Still very wary of them Vrystaters… They and the Lions know how to spoil a party for sure…
7 Jul 2012, 11:44 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-633: Maybe if you open ur eyes you would see?? JUST A THOUGHT
589.cab said:
7 Jul 2012, 10:31 am
Coetsee is v promising but I start kolisi over him –
Ultimate Bok team that would give ABS a klap
1. Beast 2. Bismarck 3. Coenie 4. Elstadt 5. Etsebeth 6. Kolisi 7. Alberts 8. Vermeulen
16. Cilliers 17. D Fourie 18. Kruger 19. Coetzee
9. Hougaard 10. Goosen 11. Habana/jdv 12. Frans 13. De Jong 14. JP 15. Aplon
600.Spiesisworthless1 said:
7 Jul 2012, 10:48 am
And yes I rate Coetzee, he’ll be on the bench defo and perhaps starting but not against Pocock and McCaw.
I reiterate?? after a very successful 2 years at top flight rugby and after having been one of the true stars in the recent test series against England??
Maybe little girls like you should be a little more aware of the facts ??
7 Jul 2012, 11:45 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-634: Just answer the question. At this stage of the competition (the future will take care of itself…) would you rather be in the Stormers of Sharks current position?
7 Jul 2012, 11:46 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-637: Morning M, you well hun??? hope so!
Have to say i knew we could win as i said before, but hell? the clobbering we gave the BUlls?? that was like taking candy off blind charo’s
7 Jul 2012, 11:47 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-640:
Hey buddy! Both said they liked Coetzee and rated him. I don’t think they said anything bad.
7 Jul 2012, 11:49 am
Spooner boet lets be honest, if we sat in the position the Stormers are in?? we would be beyond joy,
I know you get frustrated by some of the Stormer supporters in here as i do, but they not all like that!
FAct is though Stormers have top position, and no doubt will finish there, specially in the SA conference
7 Jul 2012, 11:50 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-640: Oh for pities sake gramps. Chillaxative please.
Two people give their opinion (they are entitled) and you carry on as though Marcell is being torn apart by all comers. In fact both of the posters who inspired your latest mantrum, gave huge credit to Marcell – but voiced a concern or 2, that’s all.
Pwecious is as pwecious does.
You want to see a player being torn apart? Check the comments re: Spies. Now HIS fans should be the ones throwing hissy fits…….
7 Jul 2012, 11:51 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-643: yet they would drop him?? cpome now Boots, iots like standing in from of someone smiling in his face whilst you have a dagger stabbing him in the back,
Surely if he is playing poorly by all means, but when he is outplaying everyone he plays against?? he should take a back seat?? yeah right
7 Jul 2012, 11:51 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-642:
My neigbours are in shock bro! Watching rugby in Pretoria is like cricket to India. You would think the end of times had come. It is DEAD quiet… I’m enjoying the peace…
7 Jul 2012, 11:52 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-645: uhm i dont take instructions from idiots , sorry move on
7 Jul 2012, 11:53 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-634:
Yeah, Plumtree has had his chance. He’s had the team for 5 years now and hasn’t come close to the title.
Bring in Mallet with Spencer as backline coach.
7 Jul 2012, 11:53 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-647:
, i know trust me i live in P town long enough
7 Jul 2012, 11:54 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-646:
Coetzee is a star. I like the kid and think he has a bright future. Why do you worry what others say! They don’t select the team… It is an opinion and opinions are not facts…
7 Jul 2012, 11:56 am
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-649: Boet the players must take as much responsibility as the coaching staff, Its also up to the Sharks top level management to wake up and if Plum cannot drive the show alone, they should enforce things like defence specialists and of course someone to mentally prepare the team as i see thats what lacks every 2nd or 3rd match
7 Jul 2012, 11:57 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-650:
When the Bulls are winning things are fine… But when they lose things change mate… They are a different type of supporter. They conspire to boycott going to Loftus etc etc etc… The coach is no longer good enough, yet they have given their whole coaching team to the Boks…
7 Jul 2012, 11:58 am
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-648:
Mantie change time coming up I see. Pwecious.
Unless Marcell is your grandson, you shouldn’t give 2 ticks what anyone says about him……yet you do.
7 Jul 2012, 11:59 am
If I were the Sharks administration I would be calling Mallet for sure. Imagine what he would do with the Sharks team…
7 Jul 2012, 12:01 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-651: not worried boots boet, just irrating when people cant always give credit where its due, i mean watch the next time lAMBIE has a poor game, which never happens accept i think his match against the Lions eralier this year, that happens you watch them come in and shout how kak he is and we see like 6 names said to be superior to him?
Lemme tell you this, and against its not all Stormer supporter or only Stormer supporters, but when Etsebeth was really performing did Sharks supporters in here call from hm to be left out of a team? or ec en suggest it?? HELL NO
Kids dynamite, even though i can n tell you his last 2 tests and last match he did not perform very well, Infact i reckon he and PSDT are the future Bok lock pair
7 Jul 2012, 12:03 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-655: well one would never know i guess
I for one wont complain if Mallet took control of the Sharks as head coach, not forgetting though he too is a hot head
7 Jul 2012, 12:10 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-656:
I like stirring mate! Do I mean it? Of course not… I enjoy the banter and will never take it seriously. I even get called names. Something I don’t do – ever…
Mallet is a hot head but won’t take nonsense. He will bring the best our of any team…
7 Jul 2012, 12:11 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-656: And BANG, we have a floater……..
7 Jul 2012, 12:12 pm
Try Tahs…
7 Jul 2012, 12:15 pm
SL is quite right… He actually highlights this peculiar phenomenon of constant envy that seems to emanate from supporters of the “Top” team…
Form the hue and cry of more players from other teams selected for the Boks…
To the embarrassing outcry over a Laaitie preferring to play for the Bulls…
To now playing down the talents of a Superstar in the making just because he plays for the lowly Sharks…
I watched Coetzee last night as closely as the Bulls did – and this youngster is on a steep upward curve of continuous improvement…
From his undoubted stats as the player with the highest workrate in S Rugger in terms of Carries and tackles – to an offload game now that I did not notice before the England tests, no to mention a couple of “fetcher” steals at the breakdown…
The rapid way Coetzee is improving and learning, he is fast becoming a complete loosie…. Actually more than reminiscent of a young McCaw…. By the end of this year, his name will be known across the globe at this rate.
Superstar in the making…and whats best… He’s a SHARK
7 Jul 2012, 12:20 pm
Not a Blue Bull or Pink Bull jersey in sight today. Pretoria is in after shock mode…
Usually every Tom, **** and Sally are wearing one…
7 Jul 2012, 12:21 pm
Poor D ick gets sensored…
7 Jul 2012, 12:23 pm
Another normally unsung hero who is rapidly coming into the best form I’ve seen from him in a long time is Doc DuP…
He farken played like a man possessed last night…
The flatty he gave Greyling after the latter tried to hit Bissy from behind just after the Sharks monstered the Bulls Pack… Priceless.
I even saw a couple of ruck steals from him… and some excellent charges into the heart the Bulls defence… and fark me, a couple of decent passes…
He actually was very close to my man of the match…
Go Doc You Good Thing.
7 Jul 2012, 12:23 pm
Poor Ozzies 14 for 2 after 8 overs…
7 Jul 2012, 12:25 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-662: Ja… It is actually quite funny… Lots of okes in the supermarkets with their “vroumens” sans jerseys on a Saturday…
Its like nothing ever happened…
7 Jul 2012, 12:27 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-666:
True story! Not one in sight. It is like the Bulls don’t exist…
Just check the reaction here online. If the Bulls win they are here. If they lose they vanish…
Stormers and Shark supporters are here win or lose.
They will be back to why they lost – not why the Sharks won…
Strange bunch really…
7 Jul 2012, 12:28 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-661: very well said,I didnt bother mentioning exactly that, i too saw the steals and offloads like the one to Bissy for our first try
7 Jul 2012, 12:31 pm
The Sharks played the complete game yesterday. Even better than against the Stormers. They played as a team and as a Stormer supporter – I don’t want to play the Sharks in that mode. Saying that you never know which team turns up. From super good to uber klackelak… (Lions)… No disrespect but it is true…
7 Jul 2012, 12:31 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-667:
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-666:
And if you had to walk around there in a Stormers or Sharks jersey they won’t want to make eye contact. They’re a breed apart.
7 Jul 2012, 12:33 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-670:
I’m in my Stormers jersey and you hit the nail on the head. Look the other way…
But – quite a few Sharks jersey to be seen… Oh it is great to witness… Just pop to the Grove to enjoy…
7 Jul 2012, 12:35 pm
Those who don’t live in Pretoria…
After a Bulls win – the cars zoom around with Blue Bull flags and Steve Hoffmeyer blaring from the sound system… Base personified… Dum dum dum… hooters… shouting….gloating…
Loss is like the rapture… didn’t really happen attitude…
7 Jul 2012, 12:38 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-664: HG i said that in here last night too
Not many givcing credit to jannie and beast? they were huge
7 Jul 2012, 12:39 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-672:
And I have yet to see a Bulls fan give his/her opinion round here this morning 
Maybe they HAVE been raptured?
http://www.raptureready.com/
7 Jul 2012, 12:40 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-672:
And when the Bulls lose at Loftus even the music dies.
7 Jul 2012, 12:41 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-674:
Not one!!!
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-675:
…and don’t we know…
7 Jul 2012, 12:42 pm
Strange Whitney… I luv Bakkies didn’t come online…
7 Jul 2012, 12:48 pm
Spies who???
7 Jul 2012, 12:53 pm
PSTD not in Etzebeth’s class.I watched him closely last night and he was very poor to say the least.
7 Jul 2012, 12:54 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-677:
lol
Yeah, just shows what sort of a person Bakkies is.
All talk and face no music
7 Jul 2012, 12:56 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-676:
You’ll probably have to log into RT to find the excuses.
7 Jul 2012, 12:59 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-670: Lol
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-673: Beast always decent… but Jannie really reaching another gear
7 Jul 2012, 13:06 pm
Congratulatios once again to all you Sharkies out there. A great team effort by your boys.
Bulls and their supporters still licking their wounds, it seems.
Losing by 22 points in a derby suggest one of two things: Either you are very kak or the winning team played really well.
From where I was sitting, the Sharks played really well and could’ve beaten any team last night.
Bulls are still in with a chance to reach the play offs so I don’t know why their supporters don’t celebrate that fact. Nothing they can do about last night now.
There destiny wrt a play off berth is still in their own hands.
7 Jul 2012, 13:21 pm
Wow, congrats to the Sharks supporters, they killed it last night…what a performance
I’m a Stormers supporter, but not as hobbled by stupid provinciaiism as some on here, and that was an awesome game to watch…I really enjoyed the way the Sharks constructed their tries (something pretty lacking in the Stormers camp, until we can get a real backline ‘coach a’ and not an old-boy wannabe)
I’ll always support the Boks, but it will be bittersweet if HM sticks with the invisible man Spies, Steyn and J Potgieter….though I can’t see him being so blinkered as to not to have noticed how utterly sh*te they were…but if the Bulls can sot out their loosies they can still beat anyone on the day
JJ and D Potgieter looking good too, and Zane had a pretty decent game
7 Jul 2012, 13:23 pm
@nama1(nama1)-683:
Looks like the Reds have a 4 point bye next week and the Canes against the Chiefs are the only threats. Even if the ‘Canes win, I can’t see them scoring 4 tries.
All the Bulls and Sharks need is a home win against weaker opponents next week.
7 Jul 2012, 13:26 pm
@David(David)-685:
Oops, Reds v ‘Tahs.
7 Jul 2012, 13:30 pm
I don’t understand, some Bulls bloggers yesterday said they were definitely going to win.
Looks more like Bulls fans are more interested in a July ski trip.
Welcome to Christchurch people
7 Jul 2012, 13:40 pm
@Atreides(Atreides)-684: well said boet
and thanks
7 Jul 2012, 13:40 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-682: Agreed HG, Doc has really lilfted his game big time
7 Jul 2012, 13:42 pm
@chch(chch)-687:
What are the rules regarding teams finishing level on points?
7 Jul 2012, 13:43 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-652:
Maybe. But I like to feel a headcoach is there for a reason. If he can’t manage his ship, then he shouldn’t be the captain.
7 Jul 2012, 13:45 pm
@David(David)-690:
Most wins count first, then points difference.
7 Jul 2012, 13:49 pm
I believe the captaincy might be taking a toll on Spies’s general play… been non-existent ever since!
7 Jul 2012, 14:01 pm
@Barbarian10(Barbarian10)-693:
You are kidding???
He was just as average before. Nothing has changed.
7 Jul 2012, 14:10 pm
Ai SL.
“Taking candy from blind charo’s”
What”s that all about
7 Jul 2012, 14:23 pm
@ CenturionShark – 694. At one stage was the best 8 in the world bud… But agreed, been average probably before the captaincy.. just been able to get away with it last year when he was still surrounded by class players like Matfield and Botha.. now he stands out like a sore thumb…
7 Jul 2012, 14:27 pm
@CenturionShark (aka LondonShark)(londonshark)-692:
Thanks. Any idea how the Sharks and Bulls compare on points?
7 Jul 2012, 14:47 pm
Stormers game live feed anyone ??
7 Jul 2012, 15:27 pm
Sharks Lover,
it is your opinion that Coetzee is best – u have good rugby insight IMO but are biased towards sharks like hm is towards bulls – I believe kolisi is better suited for test rugby, it’s my personal opinio but there is also a reason why the stormers are top and not the sharks or bulls – u talk about giving credit where it’s due well it’s due to the stormers who have only lost twice while build are sharks list triple the matches.
7 Jul 2012, 15:44 pm
Oh yes in my ultimate bokkie side I forgot brussow so kolisi or vermeulen to bench in place if coetzee – he is v good but will need to develop his fetching to set him apart cos he will get knocked back thectackle when he comes up ahaint the likes of abs, england, elstadt and alberts – he is contained fairly easily in rhe tackle as are kanko and potgieter and spies – kolisi powers thru more and puts I’m some thunderous hits – but it will be an interesting competition to watch unfold / I just do not take the current bulls backrow as being indicative of any yardstick at present
7 Jul 2012, 15:52 pm
sharks benefited from lambie not playing fullback what a blessing
marcel coetzee is brillianthe just needs to play for the full 80 min as he tends to go missing in action in the midle part of the game or he could play 60 all out and then be replaced
7 Jul 2012, 19:25 pm
As a bulls supporter, I will give credit where credit is due and say well done sharks. You played an amazing game last night and the bulls were never in it. So well done!!!
8 Jul 2012, 09:17 am
As it stands the bulls will have to go to Candbera and the sharks to Christchurch,I know where I would rather be going.Hopefully the saders will lose next week and bulls and sharks win taking them to 4th and 5th place.
8 Jul 2012, 10:06 am
4 moreyears… Look at the log again… Sharks will go to Canberra… 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5… Sharks are 6th…
8 Jul 2012, 15:15 pm
My take on the young talent in SA:
Kolisi had a great overseas tour – put in some big hits but has not delivered the same level of performance since returning from tour. 1 or 2 big hits looks great on a highlights reel (ala J.Potgieter) but I prefer Marcel Coetzee for his work rate (most tackles), superior speed, cover defense, linking play and off loads.
I am a Stormers supporter and rate Marcel higher than Siya. This may change, let’s wait and see.
Then Eben looked better at the start of the Season than he does now – he is a rare talent but has been over hyped, I watch his games closely and don’t yet see what all the fuss is about. (I would select Elstadt as my #4 enforcer).
J. Potgieter – it is a joke that this neanderthal got a Bok Cap. He doesn’t read the game well, is late to arrive at the contact points, flops over in contact and has never passed or offloaded a rugby ball in his life.. Vodacom Cup level player.
8 Jul 2012, 18:56 pm
@ Gumboots i see you are moaning about the fact there is hardly any bulls fans blogging,i am not surprised what do you expect them to write about,how good we were.I will say it for all the bulls fans out there the bulls got an absolute hiding,are you happy now.
8 Jul 2012, 18:58 pm
Well done to all you sharks fans out there your team totally outplayed the bulls and deservedly won the game.
9 Jul 2012, 00:48 am
Well done Sharks, you played bloody well.
As a Bulls supporter, I have two comments:
1) Akona Ndungane SERIOUSLY needs to lean how to finish. Any decent winger should have been able to finish that try, He INSISTS on trying to place the ball at a point about two feet OVER the tryline. He should be diving to hit the floor just before the line. It cost us a try last week against the Cheetahs, and this week again. At this level it is unacceptable.
2) WTF is going on with Hougaard? Even when under pressure, a good scrummie should have the technique to clear the ball fast, accurately and stably. His wonky, wobbly passes out were a big problem as it takes the flyhalf a half second to correct their grip on it after receiving it. this gives them less time to make good decisions. He needs to step in, bending the front leg, and pass as if passing with one hand. so that it comes out of the hand stably. he currently steops all teh way in, bends both legs, picks up the ball, runs two steps sideways, and then passes. Not good enough. Ditto his box-kicking – just bad technique. He must be taking a step backwards when kicking to move clear of the advancing forwards. Currently he stays still, and kicks. Shabby technique.
9 Jul 2012, 01:23 am
@SjamBok(SjamBok)-708: ludeke & heyneke should’ve fixed ALL these technical flaws in hougaard’s game.
9 Jul 2012, 02:18 am
705 Brains Trust….
Who did you watch closely? Because Eben didn’t play?
Must not drink so heavily on a Sunday mate.
9 Jul 2012, 02:20 am
Games I see. With an ‘s’. My apologies.
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