Stormers still SA’s best bet
9 Jul 2012
JON CARDINELLI says the Stormers remain on course for a home semi-final, a fact that makes them the best-placed South African franchise.
As I wrote two weeks ago, three South African franchises should qualify for the 2012 play-offs. The Stormers have already booked their place in the next phase by securing the SA conference title, while the Bulls and Sharks should advance on the back of big home victories in the final round of the league.
I expect the Bulls to collect five log points from their coming fixture against the Lions, but even that may not be enough to secure home advantage in the qualifying play-off. They missed an opportunity in Durban last week in that another four points would have furthered their cause for a top-four finish. As it stands, they’re unlikely to surpass the Crusaders, and so a journey to Christchurch is now looking highly likely.
The Crusaders will host the Western Force in their final league match, and based on current form the Cantabrians must be favourites to win comfortably. Even if they accumulate four log points instead of five and the Bulls bank a full house at Loftus, the Crusaders will still finish ahead of Bulls on the log. The Bulls will be hoping the Force can do them a favour and score an upset like the Rebels did earlier in the season, but aberrations like that are surely a once in a season occurence.
Like the Stormers and Sharks, the Bulls will know what they need to do to advance before they even take the field on Saturday. The matches involving the three South African contenders are the final three of the league. No doubt the coaches of these teams will be watching the overseas fixtures on Friday and Saturday morning with keen interest.
The Stormers will be supporting the Hurricanes when they host the Chiefs. A win for the Hurricanes will mean that the Stormers merely need to beat the Rebels to secure top spot on the log. The upshot of this outcome is that the Stormers will host a semi-final and a possible final.
If the Hurricanes can’t win that match, the Stormers will at least hope that their defence limits the Chiefs to three tries or less. A Chiefs win without the bonus point will mean that the Stormers still have a chance of finishing top of the log, providing of course they score four or more tries in a win against the Rebels at Newlands.
The Bulls and Sharks, however, will be hoping that the Chiefs beat the Hurricanes and end the latter team’s play-off ambitions. They will also hope that the Waratahs beat the Reds or at least stop Ewen McKenzie’s men from claiming five log points from that encounter.
There is a chance that the Hurricanes and Reds will score bonus-point victories in their respective matches, and that would take both teams up to 58 log points. However if that were to happen, the Bulls and Sharks would still be in a good position, given that they both boast superior points differentials to that of the Hurricanes and Reds. They would, of course, still need to win their matches against the Lions and Cheetahs respectively.
It seems more likely that the Chiefs will win in Wellington, although it could be closer than most expect. What this result could do is give the Stormers a chance of claiming top spot. It is something they need to shoot for, and there isn’t a tremendous amount of risk involved.
The Brumbies are likely to beat the Blues in Canberra, and five log points would see them moving one point ahead of the Stormers. That result would see the Stormers needing at least one log point from the Rebels fixture to finish second, as they have won more matches than the Brumbies.
If the Brumbies don’t get the bonus point, then the Stormers will be free to pursue a five-point haul knowing there will be no consequences should they lose. There will however, be everything to gain in the shape of a potential home final.
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185 Comments
9 Jul 2012, 05:14 am
A little reminder…check this!
• 30.skopskiet:
17 Nov 2009, 19:53 pm
well you wanna know my opinion Sa rugby especially Stormers is in big kak. I watch these people on national tv and I just can’t help thinking to myself how weak they are. Sorry to say it but saffa rugby brains are non existent seriously.
Rassie, Alistair, you name them, all pretty clueless and don’t quite know wtf is actually cutting.
Anyone thinking Stormers on the up, think again 2009 was probably as high as we gonna get.
Sa rugby itself also going to start spiralling downward. Can see it in the lais a fair attitude all the way sound.
Nope sorry. I don’t see anything anywhere to fill me with any kind of enthusiasm. Definitely not at Stormers and also elsewhere round the country.
Habana and Fourie will not imo elevate this franchise suddenly into a level of high competense. Doubt it very much with coaches like we have running the show.
9 Jul 2012, 05:16 am
Some more gems…
• 30.skopskiet:
17 Nov 2009, 19:53 pm
well you wanna know my opinion Sa rugby especially Stormers is in big kak. I watch these people on national tv and I just can’t help thinking to myself how weak they are. Sorry to say it but saffa rugby brains are non existent seriously.
Rassie, Alistair, you name them, all pretty clueless and don’t quite know wtf is actually cutting.
Anyone thinking Stormers on the up, think again 2009 was probably as high as we gonna get.
Sa rugby itself also going to start spiralling downward. Can see it in the lais a fair attitude all the way sound.
Nope sorry. I don’t see anything anywhere to fill me with any kind of enthusiasm. Definitely not at Stormers and also elsewhere round the country.
Habana and Fourie will not imo elevate this franchise suddenly into a level of high competense. Doubt it very much with coaches like we have running the show.
9 Jul 2012, 05:20 am
That worked so well the first time I had to post it again…
• 22.skopskiet:
29 Aug 2009, 18:45 pm
Lions always been my second team seeing I was raised and schooled in Springs and Parktown Boys High.
9 Jul 2012, 05:23 am
Last one for now…
4. skopskiet says:
February 6th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Pdv’s acumen, instincts, transparency, openness, and inclusive policies are light years ahead of White’s…
A Pdv or Muir or Elloff even a Meyer would have all cake walked that no contest single handedly without the additional mentorship bestowed on White.
9 Jul 2012, 05:57 am
I agree with you Jon: “JON CARDINELLI says the Stormers remain on course for a home semi-final, a fact that makes them the best-placed South African franchise.”
Unfortunately all it means is that the Stormers are the best placed South African franchise on the log, not necessarily the best placed to win the Super 15.
9 Jul 2012, 06:06 am
5 @ fantasyrugbyscout
From a SA perspective they are. If you think the Sharks are then wait till they lose to the Brumbies (if they manage to qualify). Bulls deserve fokkol as they’re just downright poor.
9 Jul 2012, 06:14 am
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-6:
I agree Pee wee, the fact that they will have a home semi and one less playoff game leans the odds firmly in their favour. I just have this dreaded feeling that the nature of the Stormers wins throughout the season might not be enough come the semi-finals. We may just see a repeat of last year, losing to the Crusaders in a home semi, and if not, they haven’t even faced the Chiefs this year. I’m afraid against sides like that, home or not, I can’t put my money on the Stormers.
9 Jul 2012, 06:35 am
hehehe…
at the beginning of the season we were told the stormers would not win a game… then when they scraped a win we were told one game doesn’t law a good team… NEXT week the stormers will lose and the slide will start… the stormers will be at the bottom of the south african log… come back and talk at the end of the season…
well we’re not there yet… one game to go…
but those same people are telling us it doesn’t count and isn’t important to have finished the season in a better log position than any other south african team…
if the stormers are so bad… why aren’t any of the lions, cheetahs, sharks and bulls above the stormers on the log…?
choke on those numbers haters…
gonna be interesting to listen to all the moans and groans and coulda shoulda wouldas…
at least we know who all the other saffa supporters will be supporting when the stormers play… whoever plays against the stormers… and most of you hypocrites slag-off south african who support nz teams…?
ironic…?
9 Jul 2012, 06:47 am
@ufo(ufo)-8:
lol
Oh boy are you having fun.
And really it could just get better in a 3-4 weeks time.
But i have a funny feeling if the Stormers win alot of these guys will use this in a discussion against the Kiwis like its their own team.
9 Jul 2012, 06:54 am
A shame the Hurricanes are unlikely to make the semi finals, as there attack has been outstanding. The Sharks deserve to be there but look likely to face an uphill battle against a fired up Brumbies and the travel factor. The Bulls are goners, even if they face the Crusaders at home they will get done. Looks like they will travel to Christchurch and get buried there. Chiefs and Stormers will earn a deserved week off.
9 Jul 2012, 07:20 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-9:
hehehe…
just a little…
but we’re not there yet… just read thought some of the comments on other threads… a lot of bruised egos out there… hahaha
at least you know any nz and aus sides that play the us will know that you will be supported by the majority of south africans… especially those who live in pretoria and durban…
it’s like the press in sa… they find fault with cape town all the time… even though it is the best run, least corrupt city in SA… being at the top means being held to a higher standard…!!
9 Jul 2012, 07:21 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-9:
you guys can assist by beating the chiefs on friday…!!
9 Jul 2012, 07:25 am
ufo
this is gonna end in tears for you guys
your feather boa is going to be full of snot and tears
BOOM!
9 Jul 2012, 07:40 am
Calm down Fern. You always get way too hysterical about these things.
9 Jul 2012, 07:43 am
@14
I am calm.
Why are you so emotional?
boyfriend dumped you?
9 Jul 2012, 07:48 am
Fern – we can’t help it we end above you guys all the time – that’s the nature of these comps unfortunately. The inferior teams tend to end up below superior teams.
9 Jul 2012, 07:48 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-13: Hey chop, do you own one of those? I swear you don’t have a clue what to type and then you look to the manequin dressed in your S&M costume with the ‘feather boa’ draped over the shoulders and then you start typing the same self loathing dribble you always do. Dude, it’s ok, we know you bat for the other team, we’re not judging you.
And what is ‘BOOM’, you have gas or something?
The best team will win the Super Rugby competition. But the only tears will be tears of joy!
9 Jul 2012, 07:49 am
pee wee
i wasnt even talking to you
what is your reason for being so emotional?
did your boyfriend fake a o rgasm and spit on your back?
9 Jul 2012, 07:49 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-10: Yip Stormers vs Brumbies and Chiefs vs Crusaders
Stormers vs Chiefs Final
The Stormers will win the comp by playing the 2 teams they havent played during the league phase.
Brilliant!!
Its like fate or whatever.
9 Jul 2012, 07:50 am
The trio of stupidity is complete now with backdoorboy entering the fray.
9 Jul 2012, 07:53 am
The Stormers to win it, if they finish first, I cannot see them winning in Hamilton!
9 Jul 2012, 07:58 am
Stormers have it all to play for. Alistair should let the guys relax this week and take some pressure off them. Tell them to enjoy the game against the rebels. We might see a 50 pointer from the Stormers.
9 Jul 2012, 08:00 am
these stormers supporters thinks this comp is a one model catwalk.
how precious
9 Jul 2012, 08:00 am
@altonahoon(altonahoon)-21: Really? The Chiefs dont look so hot at home and they have lost a few at home. They are also losing form at the worst possible time?
9 Jul 2012, 08:01 am
cheers ladies
work calls
9 Jul 2012, 08:02 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-19:
that would be a great end to the season…!
well… for us anyway…!
still a very tough steep mountain to climb though…
9 Jul 2012, 08:02 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-20:
Your team was excellent against the Bulls on Friday night.
9 Jul 2012, 08:05 am
@ufo(ufo)-26: Yes boys need to do the business this week against the Rebels. As Alistair says….one game at a time.
9 Jul 2012, 08:06 am
The only way the Stormers even stand a chance is if they finish first overall.
A home semi-final and then potential home final is crucial.
But a lot still needs to happen before even that is assured.
For now as a Stormers supporter I’m satisfied with the fact that we’ve won the South African conference twice in a row.
9 Jul 2012, 08:09 am
Saders to pull it through …. No team has more experience of play off rugby than the Saders – feeling positive
9 Jul 2012, 08:09 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-28:
yip… got us this far… feet on the ground… one step at a time…
9 Jul 2012, 08:15 am
anyway… enough crowing for now…
have got my heyneke-air-punch in…
time to focus on the rebels… don’t wanna trip up in the final week…
good day to all…!!
thoughts with capetonians in flooded areas…
9 Jul 2012, 08:29 am
20 @ Fern
Why don’t you go suck on HG’s gonads. He’s in need of some TLC biets!
9 Jul 2012, 08:40 am
@33
you are in need of a good fisting,not the type your boufrind gives you
biets
9 Jul 2012, 08:40 am
boufrind-boyfriend
9 Jul 2012, 08:42 am
I don’t have much to say, nor much inclination to say it at the moment.
The Bulls are poor.
They need a massive cleanout amongst the forwards.
As for the other SA teams: The Sharks are currently the top SA team by far.
As their performances against the Bulls and Stormers have shown.
A pity that their poor form earlier in the season has gifted the Stormers the conference title.
The Sharks problem is consistency. But when they are in form, they are a very good side. Definitely better than the Stormers, who failed to impress yet again, against the Cheetahs.
9 Jul 2012, 08:43 am
Would just like to say how pleasant it is to see the Hurricanes still being competitive at this time of the year. When the Stormers played them waaaay back in the beginning, we were sold news of “the weakest team in NZ” and told that the performance against them didn’t bode well for the season for the Stormers. In fact, all it did was highlight the nature of the ‘Canes, that they’ve shown all season – sloppy defensively at times, but utterly lethal on the counter and able to feast on scraps.
Obviously, I’ll be hoping the Stormers can get the top spot on the log, so it’d be nice to see the Hurricanes give the Chiefs as big a scare as they did back at Newlands.
9 Jul 2012, 08:44 am
JC has it all wrong, if the Reds pick up 5 points and the guppies or bullies only pick up 4 points then one of these are our. Yes JC warn Plum and bonehead.
9 Jul 2012, 08:48 am
conference title
bwhahaha
some concept made up by the stormers
9 Jul 2012, 08:48 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-36:
But the Bulls have so many Springboks in their forward pack?
Something doesn’t make sense?
9 Jul 2012, 08:49 am
tacticus
how k ak is spies playing
9 Jul 2012, 08:52 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-40:
They are relplacement Springboks for the most part, and came up agains the first choice Boks on Friday.
As I said last week, not a single player in the current Bulls pack would make the Bulls pack of 2007. That’s how far they’ve regressed.
And it was brutally demonstrated on Friday.
Anyway, I’m not really inclined to discuss it too much. My interest in rugby has dropped about ten fold in the last few days.
9 Jul 2012, 08:53 am
Yes RL was just going to say that… If they end on the same points the points difference doesnt count… Only wins and Reds will have one more…
9 Jul 2012, 08:55 am
Got a feeling Sharks will beat the Brumbies and play the Chiefs in the semi… Stormers supporters will have to support the Sharks to get a home final then…
9 Jul 2012, 08:58 am
these stormer supporters are premature again
they just dont learn do they
the bubble is going to pop and butt plugs will be s hat out all over the cape.
9 Jul 2012, 08:59 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-36: Ag shame Mr Whoopass all beck before the game now “doesnt feel like talking about it”. Plus still has a cliched pop at the Stormers. Saying the Stormers were gifted the conference is a laugh.
9 Jul 2012, 09:02 am
@heboric(heboric)-46:
Knee jerk reaction from Mr. Whoeveryouare.
I was actually very concerned about this game, as my comments from last week would attest to, if you actually knew what the hell you are talking about. Which you don’t.
9 Jul 2012, 09:06 am
The Bulls are starting to miss they solid core of players they lost.
9 Jul 2012, 09:06 am
Sharks are only making up the numbers.They will need to be at their best against the Cheeters for the five points.It might still end in tears for sharkievarkie supporters.
9 Jul 2012, 09:07 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-36:
You’re right, but not only are the sharks a better team than the stormers, so are the bulls. on paper anyway. both have massively better squads, yet neither have been consistent enough. stormers are a bit like the brumbies and chiefs – play well as a team because they are very well coached yet without the talented squads boasted by the crusaders, bulls and sharks.
Any updates on the injury front? Will stormers have Duane, Schalk or Koster back?
9 Jul 2012, 09:07 am
“…the Stormers still have a chance of finishing top of the log, providing of course they score four or more tries in a win against the Rebels at Newlands.”
This would be a miracle. The Stormers haven’t got a single 4 try bonus point this whole season so far.
I must say, it feels good that my team whupped “the best team in SA” so recently.
9 Jul 2012, 09:09 am
I think any Stormers or Bulls fan with a brain was concerned about the Sharks fixtures when the list was released. With only one guaranteed spot up for grabs, whoever was competing with the Sharks for the expected top 6 position(s) going into the final weeks was really going to have problems going to the tank.
Sharks started slow, finishing strong again. As everyone expected.
9 Jul 2012, 09:09 am
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-44: lol I think there are a few Stompies on here who could never bring themselves to cheer on the Sharks. They’re just too far gone in their hatred. Lol.
9 Jul 2012, 09:09 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-41:
he must be low on confidence, he really is quite pathetic. if heyneke persists with him in the rugby championship it’ll be a joke. with schalk, coetzee, alberts, vermeulen, brussouw, deysel to choose from whywould you pick the cowardly lion.
Britney Spies indeed.
9 Jul 2012, 09:10 am
Tacitus is in pain,so all is forgiven for that unfortunate faux pas.
9 Jul 2012, 09:10 am
@Tartan(Tartan)-52: Those two opening games away to the Bulls and Stormers were always going to be a killer. But as you say, the Sharks are finishing strongly.
Some would even say they are the best SA team at the moment……..
9 Jul 2012, 09:11 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-53:
I love the Sharks. my second team, but only just. to the point where they’re the only team I dont mind losing to. pity they wont have steyn for the playoffs though. hows lambie’s ankle coming along?
9 Jul 2012, 09:11 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-54:
I’m impressed by Kanko’s return to form, after Meyer showed some confidence in him at National Level.
Just shows you what a bit of self belief can do.
9 Jul 2012, 09:12 am
Spooner they should as the chances of them winning will be much higher playing at home than in hamilton…
9 Jul 2012, 09:13 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-56:
they are the form team for sure. like the crusaders often do, they;re peaking at the right time. but might be too late as we’ve seen what happens when the sharks travel for playoff matches.
i remember that final in canberra all those years ago. jeez that was horrible to watch.
9 Jul 2012, 09:16 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-58:
Yes he’s looking good, but I’ll have to reserve judgement as I’m yet to see him do it at tesat level the way brussouw, schalk and alberts have, or the way coetsee did in his 3 starts.
Showing faith seems to have worked for Kanko, but surely the ebst thing for spies is to drop him, and tell him to go and grow a pair. do whatever it takes to make him a little it angry. we’ve all been saying it for eyars, but until he develops a little mongrel he’ll never fulfill his potential. at least he still has time.
9 Jul 2012, 09:17 am
The Stormers B-team needs all the plaudits for winning the conference title against full Bok-squad teams like the Bulls and Sharks.
9 Jul 2012, 09:18 am
so
the sharks lost to the lions, had a bye and then beat the bulls and they are now the form SA team?
lmfao, gees, talk about delusional…
9 Jul 2012, 09:18 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-36:
31.Tacitus:
24 Apr 2012, 10:17 am
If the Bulls can get 3 out of 4 on tour I reckon they’ll top the SA log.
The Tahs and Highlanders games have to be targeted.
I reckon the Stormers will go down at Loftus and King’s Park, and then the fat lady will have sung for them once again.
If the Bulls only win 2 on tour, however, then it will go down to the wire, with the Stormers having to lose another of their remaining
9 Jul 2012, 09:19 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-24:
Point taken, however a Final at home, SBW last game, and they know this is the best chance they will ever have to win it.
Sharks looked awesome, if they qualify they will be playing in Canberra or Christchurch, whilst I don’t think they have gotten themselves in a position to win the tournament, they could cause problems.
9 Jul 2012, 09:19 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-61:
To be honest, Spies is the least of my concerns at the Bulls. Our tight five is the real weakness. That and the lack of experienced veterans of world class ability, like we had when Victor, Bakkies, Gurthro, Du Preez, Habana, a dead eye Morne Steyn and a young, fired up Spies all played for the same team.
That was a team that outclassed a number of Top tier international teams in terms of player quality.
The current crop are dwarfed by the immensity of that generation. We have lots of work ahead of us to get even close to that level again.
9 Jul 2012, 09:20 am
I’m so proud of this talentless Stormers team second on the log and only third best SA team. Now I’m confusing myself here as some people actually have no idea what they spew on this site…
It is embarassing to read some people’s comments. It sounds like jealousy to me, but I’m a South African and will support whichever SA team makes it to the finals… Stormers must be such a great team that other supporters always look for fault. Psychology says you only bad mouth people who are a threat… Funny how it is the same in sport… nuff said… Eat your heart out Floubull…
9 Jul 2012, 09:22 am
Funny how everyone has been saying just how silly it was to select the Bulls players in the Bok squad yet we were told we were sour grapes… Now they are so bad only after being exposed by the Stormers, Bulls and next week the Lions…
9 Jul 2012, 09:22 am
You can say that again pops!Unfortunately that’s the mentality you get with people that’s been uber kak for 100 years of their existence.
9 Jul 2012, 09:25 am
I am not sure of I want the team that wins the Super 15 to be the stormers , I am not sure of I want the champion team to play such boring rugby. I am not talking about scoring 4 tries per game , instead all I want is some good solid rugby with a purpose , tale the lead in the game and then you can afford to take some calculated risk’s. The problem might still come that we are behind on the score board and then what ? Its gonna be a case of dam we were unlucky and the truth is gonna be that we were careless and brainless.
Sorry , I am very happy we won and I am happy that we top the conference but I am also disappointed in the manner that we achieved this. I only watched half of the stormers game on Satruday and I nearly fell asleep , seriously. It did not even bother me that I missed the first half but I was very excited to watch the Crusaders game and the sharks-Bulls game.
There is something wrong for me when a die hard Stormers fan dont look forward to the stormers games as much as he does to the Crusaders or Sharks games and I am about as die hard as they come , heck I use to look forward to a WP – Falcons games.
9 Jul 2012, 09:25 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-64: Thanks for this Transie. We are still waiting. Dont hold your breath guys. Best SA team 2 years running. May it long continue.
9 Jul 2012, 09:29 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-68: Sharks
9 Jul 2012, 09:30 am
The easiest way to sum up Spies is to say that for years we were waiting for him to take his s15 form to test level, and now as he matures it seems he is instead taking his test form to s15…
Easy to take pot shots as he isn’t captaining my team. I actually don’t think the Bulls have done that badly this year – they’re about where I expected them to be, perhaps better actually, and I anticipated the Sharks being a little better than they have been. It’s a testament to how well the Bulls have done in the past (ugh) that people expect a side that is very far from the finished article to challenge.
I’m satisfied with the Stormers’ season so far, but as always it feels like there are some huge cracks being papered over. C’est la vie.
9 Jul 2012, 09:30 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-72:
Sharks hehehe
9 Jul 2012, 09:31 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-70: True the game on Saturday was disappointing. By far the worst game the Stormers has played.
9 Jul 2012, 09:32 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-47: Well Mr Whoopass I know who you are and I know your reputation. I still dont know what is worse those Cape Crusader or bitter Bulls/Sharks supporters. Stormers gifted the conference Ha Ha.
9 Jul 2012, 09:33 am
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-63:
Howzit Pops! Sometimes I get embarassed and now you see why!!!
9 Jul 2012, 09:33 am
We surely are a threat for Sharkievarkie and Bull supporters.They have attacked our inability to score bonus points,bizarrely they have attacked our defensive structures saying it’s not going to help us when we behind in a semi,they have attacked our coaching staff as clueless and they have written off our players as talentless.Oh yes,I can sense the fear in Danville and Sharkievarkie country!!!
9 Jul 2012, 09:33 am
@heboric(heboric)-76:
Forgive him mate, he knows not what he says…
9 Jul 2012, 09:34 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-75: It was like that Reds – Sharks game a few years ago , Remember that one , I think it ended in 6-3 ?
9 Jul 2012, 09:34 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-70: I was disappointed when we went for the 3 points and didnt try other avenues instead of the rolling maul to try and score tries. I know the scrums were a shambles too but atleast try something different. If they dont be the Rebels by 50 this weekend i will really be disappointed.
9 Jul 2012, 09:35 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-78:
It is not about the players but the team of players… Some people forget this is a team sport…
9 Jul 2012, 09:36 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-80: Yes something like that! That was just as bad!
9 Jul 2012, 09:37 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-66:
I disagree to an extent – yes the bulls have lost some expereince, but considering this they still have a very good team. In my opinion HM did overdo it when selecting all those Bulls players in the Bok squad, but I still think they are a talented squad – and better than the stormers, player for player. The problem is they are not very well coached, having lost their brains to the boks. that and Morne Steyn is not playing very well – although that could be because his forwars are not fronting.
Rather than your tight 5, I’d say it is your powderpuff loosies that are costing you. with spies at 8, you need a wrekcing ball 7, like alberts, juan smith etc – jacques potgieter is hopelessly overrated and cant carry britney.
Spies has played his best rugby in a bok jersey with Juan Smith and schalk Burger – because they are so hard and effective, they allow spies to play a bit looser. if you dont have a 6 and 7 combo that powerful, he is a liability. it is why you cant pick brussouw and spies in the same loose trio – not even alberts could carry enough mongrel balance both of them. and thats probably why meyer did not pick him.
My bok loose trio would be Brussow, Alberts and Schalk – with either Coetse or spies on the bench, assuming Juan smith not available.
9 Jul 2012, 09:38 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-64:
9 Jul 2012, 09:38 am
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-77: good boet, yourself? hehe its alright mate, i understand the Sharks supporters are a special breed, WoodenSpooner, Fernly and HG as representatives makes me realise that somethings not quite right in the water in the city of Durban..
9 Jul 2012, 09:39 am
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-63: What is your opinion of the Stormers this season?
9 Jul 2012, 09:41 am
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-86:
Really good! My team is up there, not playing champagne rugger but winning… I guess it is about scoring more points than your opponent… Just what they are doing… Do I think they can go all the way – hell I hope so, but they will need to get a lot better and finish off better…
9 Jul 2012, 09:42 am
You are so right boots.Credit should be given to AC and his staff for fostering that great team spirit down there in the Cape.
9 Jul 2012, 09:46 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-87: considering they have only lost two games all season, and having lost experienced players through injury for extended periods, I think they have impressed to be honest… sure they havent been the most attractive side, but they have been mighty effective… they have confidence in their structures and in the bloke standing next to them, vital for finals footy imho..
9 Jul 2012, 09:46 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-70:
what i dont get is how the stormers attack has gone backwards last 2 seasons. I remember the season we lost to bulls in the final. the rugby the stormers played on their tour of NZ was phenomenal. The way they played to beat the Blues and Chiefs in NZ was absolutely breathtaking, I remember the Kiwi commentators gushing. They swung the ball from touchline to touchline until they created enough room on the outside to score. the thing i remember most was how effective schalk was as the link between forwards and backs.
our results have stayed pretty much the same – we’ve come second on the log last 2 years (behind Bulls in 2010 and reds in 2011), and likely to finish there again this year, but it is the failure of our attacking game to progress that is the biggest obstacle to our chances of winning. clearly we’ve got every other aspect nailed, given our results. we just cant finish. lets hope we click in the next 3 weeks.
9 Jul 2012, 09:47 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-42: HAHAHAHAHA @ this
“Anyway, I’m not really inclined to discuss it too much. My interest in rugby has dropped about ten fold in the last few days.”
9 Jul 2012, 09:48 am
As Naas would say, “Looks at the scoreboard”.
(or the log in this case.)
9 Jul 2012, 09:51 am
It’s interesting to note that Bulls and Sharks players admitted that they were already thinking about the Boks about two weeks before the start of the tests.That might be their problem .They are more interested about individual honors than team honors unlike the Stormers who plays as an collective unit.
9 Jul 2012, 09:53 am
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-86: Sorry pops but those three are NOT representatives of Durban! Durban population is generally more laid back and a lot more socialised! And if you watched Carte Blanche which you living in NZ probably wouldn’t have, the water is certainly way more suspect in Cape Town where canals are serving as latrines, than in Durban! Real Pity that, as Cape Town is by far one of the most beautifull cities in South Africa and even of the World I have seen!
9 Jul 2012, 09:53 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-92:
This from the man who admitted he only likes to watch the Bulls when they are winning.
9 Jul 2012, 09:55 am
@Gumboots i see you are gloating just a tad this morning.When the bulls won their 3 super rugby titles we gloated after we won them never before,and as of now the 2nd raters have won nothing yet,and you may have to eat a big slice of humble pie.
9 Jul 2012, 09:56 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-92: He has taken his ball and gone home so that the rest of us cant play with him.
9 Jul 2012, 09:56 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-95: Im in sydney sharksgirl, but do a lot of female Sharks supporters marry/hook up with non Sharks supporting men? I could understand it to be perfectly honest
9 Jul 2012, 09:59 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-71: @Gumboots(Gumboots)-85: some here would lead you to believe that topping the SA conference is no achievement but on this thread i’ve posted only just two post from april & may from one person and in BOTH the person in literally willing his own team to “top the SA log” & “end first in the SA conference”
jealousy makes people nasty hey
40.Tacitus:
21 May 2012, 11:04 am @Xkreni-WP(Xkreni-WP)-38:
I believe the Bulls will lose against the Chiefs.
Bulls will win at Loftus against the Stormers.
Sharks will win in Durban against the Stormers.
Then the log will be:
Bulls
Stormers
Sharks.
It all then comes down to the game in Durban. If we lose that, we end third. If we win it, we end first in the SA conference.
9 Jul 2012, 10:01 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-71: @Gumboots(Gumboots)-85: some here would lead you to believe that topping the SA conference is no achievement but on this thread i’ve posted only just two post from april & may from one person and in BOTH the person in literally willing his own team to “top the SA log” & “end first in the SA conference”
jealousy makes people nasty hey
40.Tacitus:
21 May 2012, 11:04 am @Xkreni-WP(Xkreni-WP)-38:
I believe the Bulls will lose against the Chiefs.
Bulls will win at Loftus against the Stormers.
Sharks will win in Durban against the Stormers.
Then the log will be:
Bulls
Stormers
Sharks.
It all then comes down to the game in Durban. If we lose that, we end third. If we win it, we end first in the SA conference.
9 Jul 2012, 10:02 am
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-99:
a bit like my kiwi wife… not hooking up with a kiwi man…
9 Jul 2012, 10:05 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-102:
do you want to admit that here, theres a perception about kiwi woman on this site that doesnt lend itself to your candid admission? I do hope she wasnt ferned, cause “apparently” hes been with a few even though they all look like truck drivers? lol
9 Jul 2012, 10:07 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-101:
You do realise the monetary and home advantage benefits of topping the conference, right?
If you think I wanted the Bulls to top the SA conference for some rumoured “conference trophy” then you’re sadly mistaken.
Basically, the Bulls are now out of the competition (they were out the moment they lost to the Stormers at Loftus, as no SA team has ever won this competition when having to travel overseas for a play-off match).
THAT’s the reason why topping the conference is so critical.
9 Jul 2012, 10:08 am
Shew. Finally found my way to the Cheese and Whine function I have so been looking forward to….
Sharks whining.
Bulls whining
Stormers dining….
9 Jul 2012, 10:09 am
Now that they can’t beat us on the rugby field they are now attacking our drinking and toilet water.
9 Jul 2012, 10:09 am
Say what you wanna about the Stormers, but they must be the team of the season.
Two losses and even bigger deficit in the personnel department but odds on for a home semi and Final. Not taking anything for granted, though.
I put down the anti-Stomer vitriol to good ol’ banter just like when we slag off the other sides, but some (SHARKS) dudes here really need some growing up to do.
The only abuse I’m willing to tolerate is from Bulls fans as they’ve reached the summit three times and have every right to rub this in. As for (some) Sharks fans, guys, just like us you aint won sh*t, so please direct the playa hating towards Pretoria. Asseblief, tog!
9 Jul 2012, 10:14 am
The Bulls rugby union needs to distribute trinkets of those super cups to their fans to carry around in their wallets and purses as a reminder of the good days.
9 Jul 2012, 10:19 am
@sharksgirl
I am a real Sharks supporter,not one who wishes his side losses so that the coach gets the boot.
I played my clubrugby I Durban aswell,straight out of the Bluff.
Sharks forever!
Go the feckin black and white dynamite!
BOOM!
9 Jul 2012, 10:19 am
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-99:
no! But I assure you we are not all like HG and Fernly, don’t really know Wooden Spoon. If you whant to meet some decent Sharks supporters, I suggest you go to Sharksworld a little. I only come on here because of UFO, Dawn, Stormersboy and even Tacitus, Te Ranagatira, Hurricane and Cane and a few others. I generally ignore the rest 
I can take banter and one eyed supporting, after all I am one eyed when it comes to the Sharks! But abuse I cannot tolerate!
So you stay in Sydney? a few years ago we went to the expensive and long procedure of getting okaid to move to Australia, and when we finally got it right we got cold feet and decided to remain in SA! I can’t say I have regretted the decision but it would have been a nice adventure. We were to go to Brisbane.
9 Jul 2012, 10:20 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-108:
To be honest, we Stormers/WP supporters have not had the best of times for the past decade and we don’t have all that much to brag about.
We still need to win a decent trophy.
That being said, our future looks rosy. Some very good youngsters coming through the ranks.
9 Jul 2012, 10:20 am
@BishopsOD(BishopsOD)-107: “The only abuse I’m willing to tolerate is from Bulls fans as they’ve reached the summit three times and have every right to rub this in. As for (some) Sharks fans, guys, just like us you aint won sh*t”
Oh really? apparently the Sharks have one over the Stormers for having “been close to winning it” more times than the Stormers
that’s in the same league as a guy bragging that he nearly boned halle berry when the rest of you have only taken her out on dates
9 Jul 2012, 10:22 am
Sharks supporters like to accuse the Stormers of chokers,but they conveniently forget how they bottled their greatest chance to win a super trophy at KP many moons ago.Since that day they were never the same again.
9 Jul 2012, 10:23 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-112:
How did you hear about that? I only told like, twenty guys?
9 Jul 2012, 10:25 am
#104 Tacitus,Tac I think transie is blogging with blinkers on the only reason to top the sa conference or finish in the top two on the log overall is to get a home semi-final and possibly a home final.I remember rod maqueen he was coach of the queensland reds at the time being interviewed and he said then and that was a good few years ago NO sa team would ever win a super rugby title if they have to travel to play a semi or a final in NZ or OS as the travelling is to much for a sa team to play one game and expect to win itThe same goes for a team coming to sa for a semi or final as was the case with the bulls as they won all 3 super rugby titles in sa,if the bulls had to travel overseas for a final it is doubtful whether they would have won the finals.
9 Jul 2012, 10:25 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-110: hehe I understand perfectly in regards to not all supporters are like them, Puma is a gentleman and a scholar and a fine representative of decent sharkies..
9 Jul 2012, 10:27 am
The Stormers have topped the SA conference, and with some daylight to spare it seems, in spite of their inability to collect any win bonus points.
Played 15 and won 13. A fantastic record, and one worthy of praise, considering that the next Sa team has only won 9 games. A possible 14 from 16.
Now the some of the Sharkies (because it’s pretty much them) here that have been putting the Stormers down the whole season in spite of their own woeful performances are still hoping and praying for our demise.
You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves,
Congratulations I would have thought are in order.
You aren’t congratulating us or me, we didn’t play the matches, just like the Bulls supporters here didn’t win 3 titles.
It’s the team that deserves the plaudits, and you guys should be big enough to see that.
Or am I way overestimating you?
9 Jul 2012, 10:36 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-117:
excellent post
9 Jul 2012, 10:37 am
@blueboy(blueboy)-97:
No gloating from my side. Fact is we have won all but two… I have not said we would win the Super Title – I said it would be great if we do but a lot of work. I see you criticizing yes…
9 Jul 2012, 10:37 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-117:
Pick & Go has a Super Rugby ranking table which shows ranking point positions of each team since the first Super 12 match in 1996. Each team starts on 80 points and they move up and down relative to each other using the same points exchange system that the IRB use for ranking Test-playing nations.
Exchange points are doubled for semi’s and finals.
The current ranking?
1. Stormers – 86.6120
2. Crusaders – 85.6376
3. Reds – 85.3546
4. Chiefs – 84.6653
5. Hurricanes – 83.4557
6. Sharks – 82.8192
7. Brumbies – 82.3547
8. Bulls – 81.6059
Daylight indeed.
9 Jul 2012, 10:38 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-100:
Thanks!
9 Jul 2012, 10:41 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-109: I NEVER questioned your support of the Sharks!!! EVER! I just do not like abuse like you, HG, NZichina, Skopskiet, Wee Pee and Tank and many many more dish here and do not whant to be associated with it! Yes I do whant a change of coaching staff at the Sharks, but I NEVER willed/wanted the Sharks to lose! I just saw a silver lining to a possible loss! You don’t know me so YOU CANNOT question my support of the Sharks! I have missed only 3 home games in the last 5 seasons, Yes I am one of those few KP faithfull come rain or sunshine, win or lose! I attend some club games and am heavily involved with KZN school rugby (Maritzburg College especially)! However, I am really disatisfied with the mediocrity my team has produced in these last 5 seasons! With a performance like Saturdays we can see what our players are capable of! I cannot understand how you can be happy of where we are sitting on the log, or losing to the Lions? and yes I am GREEN with envy at where the Stormers are sitting at the moment! WE should be there if we had a Head coach who recognised the importance of a defence coach and in our case a sports psychologist!
9 Jul 2012, 10:44 am
@blueboy(blueboy)-115: you assume too much, my post wasn’t directed at tac, but the throngs of supporters of the one team that has come close to winning super rugby enough times, who have bee pouring water over the achievement of topping the SA log…
pay attention and you’ll see who they are.
9 Jul 2012, 10:44 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-120: Wow big surprise.
9 Jul 2012, 10:44 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-122:
You have no reason to justify yourself, least of all to Fern.
9 Jul 2012, 10:51 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-122:
Don’t even discuss anything with him/her/it…
9 Jul 2012, 10:56 am
@sharksgirl
If you watch clubrugga you may well have marvelled at HG’s silky skills
Which club do you support?
9 Jul 2012, 10:57 am
#119 Gumboots I am not critisizing i am merely pointing out a fact that your team has won nothing yet and still have a bit to do yet,that is all.
9 Jul 2012, 10:59 am
I see supporters from all sides slagging each other off…
9 Jul 2012, 11:00 am
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-129:
So it has always been, and so it always will be in the future…
9 Jul 2012, 11:03 am
Exactly… The generalising must stop… Its all sides… In fact maybe not Cheetah supporters…
9 Jul 2012, 11:05 am
@blueboy(blueboy)-128:
9 Jul 2012, 11:15 am
#123 Transie i read what you blogged and sometimes tacs posts come back to haunt him.Topping the sa conference is good for one thing it guarantees you a place in the semis and a posible final.Personally i think this conference story is rubbish and it should be about whoever finishes in the top four of the log,if it is 4nz teams or 4ozzie teams or 4 sa teams so be it.
9 Jul 2012, 11:21 am
@blueboy(blueboy)-133:
Agree with you! The only reason for the conference is to ensure there is an Ozzie team in the mix…
What has happened to the Bulls is what Tac was wishing on the Stormers.
Lesson! Never wish anything bad on another… it comes back to haunt you…
Maybe he will learn from his mistakes and come back just as unbiased as before…
9 Jul 2012, 11:22 am
@blueboy(blueboy)-133: john o’neill won’t like that because if the aussie sides are dismal and have less points it will mean no revenue for his union until the 1st RC game and that he can’t tolerate, john o’neill is about MONEY and nothing else, how else can you explain him agreeing to a TEST againt Scotland on tuesday and another against Wales on the weekend? Greed, that’s all.
9 Jul 2012, 11:33 am
#132 Gumboots The currie cup now comes second to winning the super rugby title as their is more prestige involved,sure it is nice to win the currie cup,but personally i want to win the super rugby title more as it is a bigger competition against good opposition.
9 Jul 2012, 11:38 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-106: What do you mean “drinking AND toilet water”? In your house that’s the same thing.
9 Jul 2012, 11:47 am
@blueboy(blueboy)-136:
You play Currie Cup with your second stringers, something the Stormers have been doing in Super Rugby this year!!!
So the credibility is not what it used to be… Only my opinion…
I think Super Trophy 1
Conference Trophy 2
Vodacom Cup 3
Currie Cup 4
9 Jul 2012, 12:02 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-138: 2 out of 4 ain’t bad
So far,.
9 Jul 2012, 12:03 pm
#138 Gumboots I wonder how many other fans feel about this the CC teams are only now feeder teams for super rugby teams and the CC is now a second tier competition for the super rugby franchises.
9 Jul 2012, 12:04 pm
#139 Stormersboy Yes that is a good haul for the last 11 years.
9 Jul 2012, 12:05 pm
sharks and stormers brawling again?
its funny.
but it get pretty boring too.
well done stormers on your great season so far, personally i think the stormers team are limited by their attacking game only. get that right and they will be dominant for a long time.
by the same token, the sharks need to up their defensive game but fransie will do that for us.
so i expect the rivalry to continue for a long time to come.
its a good thing for me, because i am a provincialistic b a s tard like the rest of my countrymen and it keeps our rugby relevant and strong imo.
because lets be honest, a game vs a few kiwi teams and basically ALL the aussie teams just doesnt cut the mustard when it comes to our obsession with rugby.
not that the games arent avidly followed, they simply dont get the blood boiling as much do they?
thats why i am excited for my good mate transie as regards the kings inclusion, because he will at last have a mast to pin his flag to.
9 Jul 2012, 12:09 pm
Sharksgirl there is never any abuse from me, just the facts.
9 Jul 2012, 12:09 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-142:
9 Jul 2012, 12:23 pm
Congrats on winning the conference trophy Stormers.
So what now for my Sharks?
We can end 5th or 6th, but ending 6th will suit us better so that we can play the Brumbies (who we’ve beaten this year) away.
Should we win that game what would be the best cenario for us furher in the competition to win it?
If the chiefs top the log we would play them next, and if the Stormers top the log we would play them in the semi.
The problem with playing the Stormers in a semi is that we would most likely then have to go back to NZ for the final. That traveling would make it impossible.
Rather play the Chiefs in the semi and come back to SA for final or stay in NZ for final against Crusaders.
So it would be either:
1) AUS / NZ / SA (Chiefs top log)
2) Aus / NZ / NZ (Chiefs top log)
3) Aus / SA / NZ (Stormers top log)
So from a Shark point of view we would like the Chiefs to top the log as it would be the easier way taking travel in consideration to win the competition.
Now please stormer supporters, this is not hate towards you, but common sense only.
9 Jul 2012, 12:28 pm
China
I am still waiting for my post,I never mixed with saffas when I was in nz.
Fetch biets!
9 Jul 2012, 12:30 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-142: Go KINGS!!!!!!!!!
9 Jul 2012, 12:33 pm
fern you clearly told me you shagged plenty of ugly woman in NZ and some ex pat Saffa’s if you have to brag about it chances are you didn’t do any, I dont know how to find old posts otherwise i’d post it
9 Jul 2012, 12:35 pm
@Mr Black(Mr Black)-145:
we should not forget that the sharks can easily finish 7th.
a 5 pointer for the reds against the waratahs and less than 5 points for us against the cheetahs and that’s our s15 over.
9 Jul 2012, 12:39 pm
@charo(charo)-149: true
9 Jul 2012, 12:42 pm
China you are a liar?
Btw,should you not spend time with your wife and kids instead of being in front of the pc?
Was your dad absent aswell?
Break the cycle china.
9 Jul 2012, 13:13 pm
That Sharksgirl is a breath of fresh air on here i must say.
9 Jul 2012, 13:14 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-127: I am almost too terrified to ask you for which club HG plays? maybe I have spoken to him and he has a different persona on KEO? I support Maritzburg Collegians
but am also very interested in Rovers, as we always park, have our braai on their fields and have a drink in the club before and after a match. I live in PMB and so do not go to all club matches actually few of them, if I am in Durbs and can stay at my sister I make a point of going, but do not make a point of going to all, besides its getting more difficult now with my son at and Playing for Maritzburg College.
9 Jul 2012, 13:19 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-104:
Just to let you know – I will support the Bulls in the playoffs, but boy did I enjoy seeing them getting smashed at Kings Park.
If only to put an end to the myth that W.Kruger, J.Potgieter, Spies, M.Steyn, Oliver, A.Ndungane and Kirchner should be anywhere close to a Bok jersey.
9 Jul 2012, 13:25 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-143: Nzichina, like I do not like nor tolerate HG using the death of one of your/Poppas (I have forgotten) relatives, I do not tolerate you using Aids as a tool to get at these characters. I have seen the face of Aids and its not pretty its tragic! Keep to Rugby and we should all get along!
9 Jul 2012, 13:30 pm
@153
Woodburn Stadium in Sleepy Hollow has the hardest fields I have ever played on.
HG played for Rovers,what a bunch of filthy cheating scum.
9 Jul 2012, 13:32 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-156: You stay on the bluff?
9 Jul 2012, 13:37 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-156: He he! I take it you didn’t play for Rovers?
Woodburn is looking very sad lately! and the fields are still as hard as anything!
9 Jul 2012, 13:39 pm
“Stormers still SA’s best bet”
I would say that Messrs Jonker, Joubert, Lawrence, Pro Legota et al are the better bet for S. Africa tan the Stormers?
9 Jul 2012, 13:42 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-158:
Hi SG! Didn’t know that Rovers had a ladies rugby team. What position did HG play for them?
9 Jul 2012, 14:00 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-160:
I don’t know whant to ask Fernly what position he played.
9 Jul 2012, 14:06 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-161:
Yep! I think your team must end 6th on final log, as then they play Brumbies – let the Bulls play the Saders… Your thoughts…
9 Jul 2012, 14:09 pm
I played for Harlequins,wing and fullback.
9 Jul 2012, 14:10 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-161: @Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-163:
Congrats on Saturday guys, you are well placed for a visit to Canberra and then possibly Hamilton.
You can win both games
9 Jul 2012, 14:13 pm
@willievz(willievz)-164:
The Sharks were fantastic mate! Wish they were consistent…
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-163:
First or Second ladies 15?
9 Jul 2012, 14:15 pm
Gumboots I played the Rovers ladies after the game.
I was known for my good hands:-)
9 Jul 2012, 14:17 pm
@willievz(willievz)-154:
9 Jul 2012, 15:01 pm
I just hope that the Stormers don’t face a New Zealand side in either knockout game.
Those games in Newlands are inveriably home games for the Kiwi sides.
9 Jul 2012, 15:09 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-162: @willievz(willievz)-164: Thank you Willievz, and congratulations on the Conference title! YEs I am hoping to finish 6th I feel more confident in beating the Brumbies away than the Crusaders. Brumbies we have already beat them in Canberra so just a smite more confident facing them. The Chiefs make me reeeeealy nervous! The best team this season imo. But the SR cup will come to SA hopefully!
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-163: How long ago did you play? I may have seen you play then
9 Jul 2012, 15:11 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-165: As we do!!! imagine if they played like that the entire season?!
9 Jul 2012, 15:29 pm
Crunch time this weekend. Going to be fantatic.
9 Jul 2012, 15:53 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-155:
think you’re confused i’ve never mentioned AIDS to get back at anyone on this site
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-151:
you type so much shite you can’t remember, somebody tell me how to find previous posts and i’ll post it for you
9 Jul 2012, 16:00 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-172: Nzichina if I am confusing you with another of your compatriots I humbly apologise! I remember I read it and left the site immediatelly I was so upset! I don’t know why I remembered it as you maybe I had read a post of yours before and just tied the offending post to it. In that case I apologise!
9 Jul 2012, 16:04 pm
sharksgirl you are thinking of pooper69
9 Jul 2012, 16:06 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-173:
no problem the AIDS things is Poppa’s domain, I prefer to talk about rugby and Ferns ex pat SAFFA conquests in NZ
9 Jul 2012, 16:15 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-172:
you are quite right about fern saying he got into the expat saffa girls in new zealand when he was there…
of course he’ll duck and dive now…
but post such he most definitely did…
9 Jul 2012, 16:19 pm
ufo
go and find that post and prove me wrong
simple
Why would I travel half way around the world and mix with saffas?
I dont even know any saffas in nz
9 Jul 2012, 16:26 pm
NZiC knows it… i know it… you know it…
since when do you worry about the niceties or etiquette of actually knowing the women you boast about online wrt to your macho manly studly prowess…?
never stopped you before apparently…
weak cop out indeed…
doesn’t alter the fact that you bragged about it…
would be a lesson to most of us…
not you apparently…
9 Jul 2012, 16:27 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-177: Why would I travel half way around the world and mix with saffas?
Because no-one else would be seen dead with you? (And when one considers some of the ‘choice’ folk who are a stain on our good South African name abroad…I would expect you to find them – bruvvas in ^5 arms you lot probably are)
9 Jul 2012, 16:32 pm
hey UFO nice one buddy
9 Jul 2012, 16:34 pm
Mad eye he he
9 Jul 2012, 16:38 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-180:
plezsh…
you speak the truth…!
9 Jul 2012, 16:49 pm
nzinchina
dont you need to spend some time with the wife and twins instead. of sitting in front of your pc?
was your dad perhaps a absent father?
if so,break the cycle
if not,dont become one.
9 Jul 2012, 17:34 pm
No doubt that Stormers are SA’s best bet. They don’t only have the advantage of playing at home but have also been the most consistent SA side and have the best defence, most of the ingredients for success. My only concern for them would be if they have to chase the game, their mindset at the moment doesn’t allow them the creativity to do so, mind you most of the SA sides lack this ability.
As I said the other day Culture trumps Strategy every day and the Stormers culture is a little too negative especially considering all the talent they have available.
What has been good to see this year is the fact that JDV has lasted the whole season, he deserves it – a great servant of SA rugby.
10 Jul 2012, 13:02 pm
I hope the Stormers can do it and shake the “choking” tag, this comong from a Lions man! If the Bulls make the might suprise, but without Bakkies/Danie/Vic they will struggle, their pack’s been bullied so far
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