Super Rugby preview – Round 18
13 Jul 2012
JON CARDINELLI and RYAN VREDE analyse the key match-ups and pick the winners at the weekend.
JC and Vrede called all of last week’s results correctly, and there’s a strong feeling at keo.co.za HQ that another full house is on the cards.
Both writers are expecting the Bulls, Sharks and Stormers to pick up wins and qualify for the play-offs. JC reckons the Chiefs should win the league by hammering the Hurricanes on Friday, a result that won’t please the Stormers, but won’t stop the Cape side from advancing. Vrede thinks the Chiefs will win in Wellington, but without a bonus point, and that will allow the Stormers to seize an opportunity against the Rebels and top the league.
The Sharks and Bulls will be under pressure to bank bonus-point wins in their respective matches after the Reds whip the Waratahs in Brisbane. The play-offs will only start next week, but this round could almost be likened to the Fifa World Cup’s Round of 16. It’s do or die, and we’re expecting the Bulls and Sharks to do the necessary and join the Stormers in the play-offs.
KEO.CO.ZA SUCCESS RATE
VREDE: 80/112 (71%)
JC: 82/112 (73%)
HURRICANES vs CHIEFS, WELLINGTON, FRIDAY 09:35
VREDE’S CALL: The Hurricanes need to win to keep hope of participation in the play-offs alive. The Chiefs need to hold the Stormers at bay and book an easier route to a final. The match clearly doesn’t lack for incentive for either side, but the Chiefs’ all-round superiority will reflect in the result. Their success has been built on their pack’s potency. The heavies were outplayed against the Crusaders again last week, but the Canes don’t have the calibre of forwards to test the Chiefs (in general play or at scrum time) in the manner they were tested in Hamilton. This will lend the Chiefs attacking impetus, with their back division allowed space and time to plot the Canes’ demise. Defensively I suspect the Chiefs’ dominance of the gainline will ultimately force the Canes into expansive, cavalier attacks that will be terminal to their cause and season. Chiefs by 10
JC’S CALL: The Hurricanes are a competitive side, but for every steal and game breaking play there is an instance of indiscipline or sloppy defence. The Hurricanes’ desperation to score a bonus-point win should play into the Chiefs’ hands. The Chiefs boast the second-best defensive record in the competition and are especially dangerous from turnover ball. Expect them to play a more structured, territorial game and feed off the Hurricanes’ mistakes. Unfortunately for the Stormers, I feel the Chiefs will secure the five points from this fixture and win the league. The Hurricanes may score some tries, but they won’t do enough to win or get a consolation bonus point. Chiefs by 9
Hurricanes – 15 Andre Taylor, 15 Cory Jane/Alapati Leiua, 13 Conrad Smith (c), 12 Tim Bateman, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 Chris Eaton/Frae Wilson, 8 Victor Vito, 7 Jack Lam, 6 Faifili Levave, 5 Jason Eaton, 4 Jeremy Thrush, 3 Ben May, 2 Dane Coles, 1 Reggie Goodes.
Subs: 16 Motu Matu’u, 17 Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, 18 James Broadhurst, 19 Brad Shields, 20 Wilson/Jamie Nutbrown, 21 Tusi Pisi, 22 Jayden Hayward
Chiefs – 15 Andrew Horrel, 14 Lelia Masaga, 13 Jackson Willison, 12 Sonny Bill Williams, 11 Robbie Robinson, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 8 Kane Thompson, 7 Tanerau Latimer, 6 Liam Messam, 5 Brodie Retallick, 4 Craig Clarke (c), 3 Ben Tameifuna, 2 Hika Elliot, 1 Toby Smith.
Subs: 16 Mahonri Schwalger, 17 Sona Taumalolo, 18 Michael Fitzgerald, 19 Sam Cane, 20 Brendon Leonard, 21 Asaeli Tikoirotuma, 22 Tim Nanai-Williams.
BRUMBIES vs BLUES, CANBERRA, SATURDAY 07:35
VREDE’S CALL: The Brumbies only need a point to capture the Australian conference but will be eyeing the bonus point and the Stormers in second, hoping the Cape franchise somehow blow it against the Rebels. Their structured, accurate and powerful forward play will be the root of their success against a Blues side that’s already mentally on holiday. Their multi-phase approach has depleted much better defensive units than the Blues, and they will again lay the platform for their talented backs to exploit the Blues’ numerous defensive vulnerabilities. Brumbies by 10
JC’S CALL: There isn’t much incentive for the Brumbies to alter their approach and push for a four-try bonus point. The Stormers are likely to beat a weakened and rudderless Rebels side in Cape Town, and so what the Brumbies rather need to focus on is a win that will keep the Reds at arm’s length. They have the forwards and the general at No 9 to ensure their game plan is successfully implemented, and will want to keep the game tight to prevent some of the dangerous Blues individuals from getting into the contest. Expect another ugly but effective performance by Jake White’s men. Brumbies by 11
Brumbies – 15 Jesse Mogg, 14 Henry Speight, 13 Andrew Smith, 12 Pat McCabe, 11 Joe Tomane, 10 Zack Holmes, 9 Nic White, 8 Ben Mowen (c), 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Peter Kimlin, 5 Sam Carter, 4 Scott Fardy, 3 Dan Palmer, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Ben Alexander.
Subs: 16 Anthony Hegarty, 17 Ruaidhri Murphy, 18 Leon Power, 19 Fotu Auelua, 20 Ian Prior, 21 Tevita Kuridrani, 22 Robbie Coleman.
Blues – 15 Charles Piutau, 14 Lachie Munro, 13 Francis Saili, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Hadleigh Parkes, 10 Michael Hobbs, 9 Piri Weepu, 8 Luke Braid, 7 Daniel Braid, 6 Chris Lowrey, 5 Steven Luatua, 4 Liaki Moli, 3 Charlie Faumuina, 2 Keven Mealamu (c), 1 Tony Woodcock.
Subs: 16 Tom McCartney, 17 Tevita Mailau, 18 Andrew Van der Heijden, 19 Peter Saili, 20 Alby Mathewson, 21 Orene Ai’i, 22 Sherwin Stowers.
CRUSADERS vs WESTERN FORCE, CHRISTCHURCH, SATURDAY 09:35
VREDE’S CALL: The Crusaders showed their class in defeating the Chiefs last week in a match they had to win to control their own play-off destiny. They cannot win the New Zealand conference but can still finish fourth, which would secure them a home tie, probably against the Bulls – a match they would be favourites to win. They are one of the few teams in the tournament you would back to win a semi-final on the road. In light of this, the benefits of finishing fourth are self-evident. They’ll beat the Force comfortably, building that result on an intelligent kicking game in their half and a blend of grunt and industry through their forwards and panache in the backline. Crusaders by 15
JC’S CALL: The Force are without David Pocock and this will limit their success at the breakdown. An injury to Kieran Read has forced the Crusaders to pick Richie McCaw and Matt Todd in the back row, and while this could impact on their gainline ambitions it will ensure that they are well equipped to win the game on the ground. It isn’t the most intimidating starting pack, with the unimpressive Tom Donnelly named in the second row, but the Crusaders do have some class on the bench to ensure they finish strongly. The performances of their halfbacks as well as that of Israel Dagg will be important as far as their kicking game is concerned, and in this regard the Force will struggle to compete. Crusaders by 10
Crusaders – 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Sean Maitland, 13 Adam Whitelock, 12 Ryan Crotty, 11 Zac Guildford, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Andy Ellis, 8 Richie McCaw (c), 7 Matt Todd, 6 George Whitelock, 5 Tom Donnelly, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Corey Flynn, 1 Ben Franks.
Subs: 16 Quentin MacDonald, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Samuel Whitelock, 19 Luke Whitelock, 20 Willi Heinz, 21 Tom Taylor, 22 Robbie Fruean.
Force – 15 Alfie Mafi, 14 Nick Cummins, 13 Patrick Dellit, 12 Rory Sidey, 11 Napolioni Nalaga, 10 Ben Seymour, 9 Brett Sheehan, 8 Lachlan McCaffrey, 7 Angus Cottrell, 6 Richard Brown, 5 Nathan Sharpe (c), 4 Toby Lynn, 3 Salesi Manu, 2 Nathan Charles, 1 Tetera Faulkner.
Subs: 16 Ben Whittaker, 17 Ruan Smith, 18 Pek Cowan, 19 Ollie Atkins, 20 Josh Holmes, 21 Kyle Godwin, 22 Will Tupou.
REDS vs WARATAHS, BRISBANE, SATURDAY 11:40
VREDE’S CALL: The defending champions have no alternative but to bank a bonus point win and hope that one of the minnows does them a favour at some stage in the day. They should achieve the former, with Will Genia and Quade Cooper controlling territory with their boots, and forcing the Tahs into risky 22m exits. From there they’ll back their defence to pressure the Tahs into errors and launch strikes from broken field or keep the board ticking over via Mike Harris’ boot. The Tahs have gifted backs, but their forwards’ inability to impose themselves will mean they won’t have the platform to exhibit their skills fully. Reds by 10
JC’S CALL: Not that Wycliff Palu has been particularly good this season, but his injury has forced a few telling changes to the Waratahs pack. There’s not much balance or continuity in that side, not much confidence and quite frankly not enough of a reason to win. The Reds have hit form late in the season and will have Digby Ioane and Liam Gill available for this match. Traditionally, this is tight fixture but I expect the Reds forwards will be too powerful and clinical at the tackle point and the backs will use that platform to win territory and score tries. This result will certainly spice up the later fixtures as the Sharks and perhaps the Bulls will need a bonus-point win to deny the Reds a play-off place. Reds by 13
Reds – 15 Luke Morahan, 14 Dom Shipperley, 13 Anthony Faingaa, 12 Mike Harris, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia (c), 8 Scott Higginbotham, 7 Liam Gill, 6 Jake Schatz, 5 Adam Wallace-Harrison, 4 Rob Simmons, 3 James Slipper, 2 Saia Faingaa, 1 Greg Holmes.
Subs: 16 James Hanson, 17 Ben Daley, 18 Radike Samo, 19 Beau Robinson, 20 Jarrad Butler, 21 Ben Lucas, 22 Ben Tapuai.
Waratahs – 15 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 14 Lachie Turner, 13 Rob Horne, 12 Berrick Barnes, 11 Drew Mitchell, 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Grayson Hart, 8 Dave Dennis, 7 Chris Alcock, 6 Dean Mumm, 5 Kane Douglas, 4 Sitaleki Timani, 3 Paddy Ryan, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 1 Benn Robinson (c).
Subs: 16 John Ulugia, 17 Jeremy Tilse, 18 Lopeti Timani, 19 Jono Jenkins, 20 Brendan McKibbin, 21 Tom Carter, 22 Tom Kingston.
STORMERS vs REBELS, CAPE TOWN, SATURDAY 15:00
VREDE’S CALL: By kick-off the Stormers will know exactly what they require to top the log. They will be cheering for the Canes earlier in the day, hoping they beat the Chiefs or restrict them to four points in defeat. The latter scenario is more likely and if ever the Stormers had a better motivator to escape their attacking mediocrity this will be it. The Rebels don’t have the game breakers of tactical intelligence to trouble them on attack. They’ll be blunted at the gainline and systematically forced deeper and deeper into their territory. The Stormers have built their victories on penalty-inducing pressure and Peter Grant’s goal kicking but they will have to find an attacking dimension that has been sorely lacking if they hope to take the full haul of points they so desperately need. The players are certainly there, but they have to deliver in this the most crucial of matches. It is the responsibility of the forwards to give them the best possible launchpad, and you have to think that against the powder-puff Rebels pack they will do so. Stormers by 15
JC’S CALL: The Rebels are not to be underestimated. Ask the Crusaders, who suffered an embarrassing defeat to the Melbourne franchise earlier in the season. I don’t think there’s any point talking about a bonus point, as the Chiefs should secure top spot following their match against the Hurricanes. The Stormers will stick to script, building the pressure and taking any points on offer in the first half. There is a chance that it will rain on Saturday, so it is probably not the best time to play expansively when the game is still in the balance. Once they have built a decent lead, they may cut loose in the second half when that notorious Rebels defence begins to tire. Stormers by 12
Stormers – 15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Deon Fourie, 7 Rynhardt Elstadt, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 De Kock Steenkamp, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Deon Carstens, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Quinn Roux, 19 Jebb Sinclair, 20 Louis Schrueder, 21 Burton Francis, 22 Gerhard van den Heever.
Rebels – 15 Julian Huxley, 14 Mark Gerrard, 13 Mitch Inman, 12 Stirling Mortlock (c), 11 Cooper Vuna/Lachlan Mitchell, 10 James Hilgendorf, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Gareth Delve, 7 Hugh Perret, 6 Tim Davidson, 5 Hugh Pyle, 4 Cadeyrn Neville, 3 Jono Owen, 2 Ged Robinson, 1 Rodney Blake.
Subs: 16 Luke Holmes, 17 Paul Alo-Emile, 18 Al Campbell, 19 Ryan Hodson, 20 Nic Stirzaker, 21 Cooper Vuna/Lachlan Mitchell, 22 Richard Kingi.
SHARKS vs CHEETAHS, DURBAN, SATURDAY 17:05
VREDE’S CALL: The Sharks’ victory over the Bulls last weekend was their best performance of the season, but the Sharks’ campaign has been marred by inconsistency. However, you sense they are peaking at the right time and they should be too strong for the Cheetahs. Expect Bismarck du Plessis, Ryan Kankowski, Beast Mtawarira, Keegan Daniel and later Willem Alberts, to be prominent with ball-in-hand, gradually wearing down the Cheetahs’ resistance. The backline, bolstered by Pat Lambie’s return and displaying an added dimension with Frans Steyn at inside centre, will be too good for one of the weakest defences in the tournament. Provided they don’t get too loose in their approach (thereby granting Heinrich Brussow and co chances at stealing or stifling the ball) the Sharks will get the bonus-point that will probably see them through to the play-offs. Sharks by 12
JC’S CALL: The Sharks need to replicate their performance of last week, simple as that. They will, in all likelihood, go into this match needing five log points, but they mustn’t let this lead to a more frantic approach. The back row was outstanding last week, and will need to win the battle at the gainline once again. It will be a big game for Craig Burden as he fills in for the irrepressible Bismarck du Plessis, but he also has the potential to be dominant in contact and boasts a unique turn of speed. The Sharks need a strong first half, and they need to be clinical in taking points on offer and building a big lead. In the second stanza when the Cheetahs are less direct and more expansive, there will be more opportunities to score from turnover ball. Sharks by 14
Sharks - 15. Patrick Lambie, 14. JP Pietersen, 13. Tim Whitehead, 12. Francois Steyn, 11. Lwazi Mvovo, 10. Frederic Michalak, 9. Charl McLeod, 8. Ryan Kankowski, 7. Marcell Coetzee, 6. Keegan Daniel (c), 5. Anton Bresler, 4. Jandre Marais, 3. Jannie du Plessis, 2. Craig Burden, 1. Tendai Mtawarira.
Subs: 16. Bismarck du Plessis, 17. Wiehahn Herbst, 18. Pieter-Steph du Toit / Jean Deysel, 19. Willem Alberts, 20. Jacques Botes, 21. Meyer Bosman / Paul Jordaan, 22. Louis Ludik
Cheetahs - 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Nico Scheepers, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Barry Geel, 11 Philip Snyman, 10 Riaan Smit, 9 Piet van Zyl, 8 Boom Prinsloo, 7 Lappies Labuschagne, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Izak van der Westhuizen, 4 Andries Ferreira, 3 WP Nel, 2 Adriaan Strauss (c), 1 Trevor Nyakane.
Subs: 16 Hercu Liebenberg, 17 Marcel van der Merwe, 18 Waltie Vermeulen, 19 Ashley Johnson, 20 Jacques Coetzee, 21 Sias Ebersohn, 22 Andries Strauss.
BULLS vs LIONS, PRETORIA, SATURDAY 19:10
VREDE’S CALL: There has been so much talk of this Gauteng derby being close. On what basis? The Lions are by some distance the weakest team in the South African conference and one of the weakest in the tournament. If the Bulls lose this one it must be considered their worst result in recent years. They won’t. The Lions don’t have the personnel or appetite for a forward brawl and will look to attack in the wide channels at most opportunities. This will play into the Bulls’ hands. The Pretoria franchise have been as adept at crafting their own scoring chances as they have been at capitalising on their opponents’ errors and their victory in this fixture will hopefully see the third South African franchise enter the top six. Bulls by 15
JC’S CALL: Like the Sharks, the Bulls will need to produce a special performance to advance to the play-offs. And like the Sharks, they will be fortunate enough to play at home against one of the weaker defensive sides in the competition. The Lions so nearly blew it last week, and their inability to play for 80 minutes will cost them in this their final game (of the season? for the next couple of years?). The Bulls will need to lift their efforts at the breakdowns and collisions, as these were areas where they were clearly outplayed in last week’s battle with the Sharks. The Lions aren’t a good side, but the Bulls would be foolish to expect an easy ride. The Lions will try to spoil and force the Bulls to play as loose as possible. The Bulls must ensure they stick to their game plan and execute efficiently. It’s time for the forwards and the halfbacks to step up in this regard. Bulls by 12
Bulls - 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (c), 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 Dewald Potgieter, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 12 Dean Greyling.
Subs: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Deon Stegmann, 19 CJ Stander, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Louis Fouché, 22 Francois Venter.
Lions – 15 James Kamana, 14 Lionel Mapoe, 13 Waylon Murray, 12 Butch James, 11 Anthonie Volminck, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Michael Bondesio, 8 Joshua Strauss (c), 7 Grant Hattingh, 6 Derick Minnie, 5 Ruan Botha, 4 Hendrik Roodt, 3 Jacobie Adriaanse, 2 Callie Visagie, 1 JC Janse van Rensburg.
Subs: 16 Martin Bezuidenhout, 17 Ruan Dreyer, 18 Etienne Oosthuizen, 19 Jaco Kriel, 20 Ross Cronje, 21 JR Esterhuizen, 22 Ruan Combrinck.
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12 Jul 2012, 15:18 pm
The problem with Sharks fans is this: they think they’re from England
12 Jul 2012, 15:20 pm
@RainbowBanana(RainbowBanana)-57: Sharks team has been announce Bissie is on bench as well as Alberts. Lambie is at 15, but then there is a thread on this
12 Jul 2012, 15:21 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-102:
Oh good news: Bissie not injured if on the bench…
12 Jul 2012, 15:23 pm
A correction or 2 for the predicters above
* 5 points for the Sharks and Bulls will guarantee the side getting 5 points a playoff place. So 5 points won”t probably see them through. It will definitely do so
* The Sharks or Bulls can lose out even if they get 4 points IF
- the Reds get 5 points (regardless of margin) (Reds will have more wins) and/or
- the Canes get 5 points AND trump the PD of the Sharks or Bulls. The Canes are 12 PD behind the Sharks and 29 PD behind the Bulls
The Sharks will know almost all the results but 1 when they play. The Bulls will know them all.
I cant see the Sharks or Bulls trying to game the result by aiming for 6th.
Get 5 points and get on the plane. (Unless the Saders lose)
Neither game is a gimme. The SHarks and Bulls could lose.
I am hoping that neiher the Reds nor the Canes get 5 points meaning that the Sharks and Bulls just need to focus on the win
12 Jul 2012, 15:23 pm
Here’s how I check if someone is a Sharks fan in SA:
I say to them: say ‘piano’
If they say ‘ pee-ha- no’ then its prolly a Bull or Lions fan
If they pronounce the ‘a’ soft then I know its a Rhodesian Sharks fan
‘Police’ is another one, if they say ” Poo-lease ‘ then but if they say ‘Pleece’ then …
12 Jul 2012, 15:24 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-101: If we lived in Cape Town maybe, but living with our magnificent climate, especially in winter, I think that would be a little difficult. We are still tanning and we are in July
12 Jul 2012, 15:25 pm
@wpjoulekkading(wpjoulekkading)-100:
Geez, did I touch a nerve?
Anyway, got my tickets for Saterday.
Looking forward to see the Bulls making the playoffs (better than last year)
And it will be the last time I’ll see the Lions in Super Rugby
Rather them than the Kings (nê Transie)
12 Jul 2012, 15:25 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-96: Retardation does have it’s benefits…the inability to feel any sort of shame or embarrassment being just one of them
I wish there was some sort of EQ test people could be forced to complete and pass before blogging. Then again, who on earth would advertise on this site if “Rock Hard p e nile support” lost it’s core market…(Fern, Pre ***, Taccy , Hg and co)
12 Jul 2012, 15:26 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-106:
There may be other reasons why there is that false belief; see post 105
12 Jul 2012, 15:26 pm
@Biscuit(Biscuit)-104:
Seriously. The Cheetahs have a defense like Swiss Cheese. Unless it’s a torrential downpour the Sharks shouldn’t have too much trouble getting 4 tries. Even if the Cheetahs score 3 tries in return.
It is only teams with zero attacking capability like the Stormers who struggle to score 4 tries against the Cheetahs.
The Bulls put 60 past them in Bloem, and scored 4 tries by halftime at Loftus.
12 Jul 2012, 15:27 pm
@Atlas(Atlas)-107:
No nerves, I just say it like I see it. But you might have born the brunt of my response to the collective anti stormers sentiment from some of the other comments also, sorry of that
12 Jul 2012, 15:28 pm
@ Sherrif 105… And ask a Stormer supporter to say ” Jakkals” and it will be ” Jacques Kallas”…
12 Jul 2012, 15:28 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-108:
Absolutely! Don’t some people have any pride though! Thickness is not a sickness… or is it?
12 Jul 2012, 15:28 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-110: And it’s only against the best defence in the competition that the Cheetahs fail to score even one try…..
12 Jul 2012, 15:30 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-114:
Sit back and enjoy!
12 Jul 2012, 15:31 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-103: yes I am extremely happy, but worried that they may be rushing him in so we can make play offs, and we all know Bissie he whants to play. We will need him if we make it so hope he is ready!
12 Jul 2012, 15:33 pm
*********SPESIAAL VIR TEGNIKUS ******************
As jy bang is vir die donker, steek ek nog ‘n kers aan vir jou …
12 Jul 2012, 15:34 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-112:
Want Jacques Kallis issie Kaap-se-allles ou pel
12 Jul 2012, 15:34 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-109: ahh!!!
12 Jul 2012, 15:34 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-114:
Yes, yes, well done on that.
We all know how much pride you take in Dewaldt Duvenage hollering at his props to get up and “assume the position” non-stop for 80 minutes like Makyaha Ntini doing is cattle herder impression out from long-off.
But you’re gonna need a tad more than Brok bouncing up like a rubber ball after a Duvenage ***-slap to charge off to the next tackle, if you wanna beat the Crusaders or Sharks in the play-offs.
Like you found out against the Crusaders and Sharks the last time you played them.
12 Jul 2012, 15:35 pm
@Gumboots(Gumboots)-113: Pride you say? You realise what species of cretin you are talking about here don’t you?
How much pride can one possibly have when your breakfast is still stuck on your chin at 13:00, and the sh y te stained toilet paper you used when trying to wipe your b u t t this morning, is trailing out of your jogger shorts at 15:00…..(a la Fern and Pre- ***)
(And the dog poo you managed to stumble in at 11:00am has crusted on your toes as it seeped through the air holes on your crocs….)
Pride?
12 Jul 2012, 15:35 pm
@ 118 Sherrif hehe touche
12 Jul 2012, 15:36 pm
@wpjoulekkading(wpjoulekkading)-111:
I won’t make the “brokeback” jokes again
But you have to admit, the rest of the republic think it’s k@k funny
12 Jul 2012, 15:39 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-122:
You must learn to click on the arrows on the right hand side…
Do you really think people type out all of that every time and then underline it?
Between you and me: I really dislike these long type of nicks, bad taste if you ask me
12 Jul 2012, 15:40 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-120: Well least the Stormers B side didnt lose against the Blues – Whoopass
12 Jul 2012, 15:40 pm
TAc
Ohhh gawd no no….we are hanging on only just…..while your Bulls are stampeding towards the play offs with an excellent 1/5 games win ratio that leaves the opposition shattered in fear…….
What will the Stormers do??????? They have been playing play off rugby the whole season….nothing will change come match day!
Fact is the press are keeping the bulls in the run……but truthfully the bulls should be written off as also ran……..if the stormers were 1/5 all would write them off……..but not this mighty favorite bulls side….it was over for the stormers when we lost to the sharks with a b team, but all we heard was our bubble burst………..
The bulls bubble never materialized!!!!!
12 Jul 2012, 15:41 pm
Sherrif iPhone doesn’t have that option…
12 Jul 2012, 15:42 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-127:
Neither does it have a spell check it seems – ‘ SHERIFF’
One ‘r’ and 2 x ‘f”
12 Jul 2012, 15:44 pm
Take this nick for instance: ‘ The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions’
Someone with a nick as long as that has something to hide
12 Jul 2012, 15:45 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-110:
Hope you are right Tac.
If it works out in the Top 4 as it should then 6th place goes to Canberra and 5th place to Christchurch
The Top 2 positions may flip as well.
If the Chiefs get 4 then the Stormers need 5 to go top on No of Wins
12 Jul 2012, 15:48 pm
Oh it does… Took it off to type in Afrikaans and it always wants to correct you with an english word… Sheriff…
12 Jul 2012, 15:49 pm
@Biscuit(Biscuit)-130:
Chiefs
Stormers
Brumbies
Bulls
Sharks
That’s how I think it will end.
12 Jul 2012, 15:50 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-132:
With the Crusaders between the Brumbies and the Bulls, of course.
12 Jul 2012, 15:53 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-132: Reds will pip the Shorks Tac..
12 Jul 2012, 15:54 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-120: I struggle to take your rugby comments seriously, because of the blind ‘Meyer is THE miracle we need’ hero worshiping you have exhibited.
Benefit of the doubt was granted, until you explained the masterful coaching logic behind Pierre Spies’s ‘death rattle stop’ before taking contact followed by an essay on Spies’s Usain Bolt legs.
After that, well anything you say, can and will be held against you going forward.
PS: Do you read Tarot cards, tea leaves or cat sh y te in a litter to predict the future? If you are so sure of the way this tournament is going to end – put some serious money on it
12 Jul 2012, 15:57 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-121: Okai now you have gone too far!!!! you have put some pictures in my head that are going to keep me awake tonight! What did I do to you
12 Jul 2012, 16:00 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-135:
Sweetie, if I took anything rugbyrelated you said seriously, then I would need to get my head read.
12 Jul 2012, 16:02 pm
History lesson Thursday 12 July 2012
When Jan van Riebeeck arrived in //Hui! Gaeb in 1652 he bought the following from Harry the Beachcomber:
10 kg biltong
10 kg droë wors
10 kg samoosas
10 kg bokkoms
Jan paid off his debt over 3 months
12 Jul 2012, 16:02 pm
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-134:
That can happen IF
* The Reds get 5 points against the Waratahs AND
* The Sharks only get 4 or less
OR the
* The Reds win AND
* The Sharks lose
Reds may struggle to get 5 against the Tahs but I am pretty sure they will win
12 Jul 2012, 16:03 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-136: Well on the upside…at least you will know what to look out for at KP should you ever feel the need to ‘meet and greet’ Fern, HG and PreDawn on the B field after a Sharks game
12 Jul 2012, 16:07 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-137: Whether you take anything I say seriously or not is of little importance to me – but I would STILL suggest you follow through with the “getting your head read’ thingy done.
Do it.
Soon you will be leaving your home without pepper gas. You will be smiling at people who don’t look like you. You will be buying Linkin Park’s latest album (brilliant).
Just do it.
12 Jul 2012, 16:09 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-108: i suspect Pissant is involved in these Maxidor and Rock hard adverts, he is always here telling us that in SA rugby’s biggest target market is the 50 + year old white male – the likely buyers of the stuff.
talk about catering to the market on keo
12 Jul 2012, 16:10 pm
I love how Tacticus makes as if the Stormers – at Newlands – will be an easier prospect than any other in the playoffs. Its actually the reverse – we’d love the Pinksters at Newlands. Your hate for anything WP/Stormers is obvious. Your mighty Bulls couldn’t beat the WP Vodacom Cup team at fortress Loftus.
Another interesting fact is the band of brothers eminating in the Bull Shark corner. These poor souls take turns complementing each other – while totally ridiculing the Stormers. The log indicates just how foolish they are. That they have to gang up shows how desperate they’ve become!
12 Jul 2012, 16:13 pm
What is that disease/ syndrome/ habit/ condition or whatever that kids have when one kid is getting all the attention. when attention switches to the aggrieved party – he is still unhappy and gets more petulant? Because underlying all the geraas there is really a different problem altogether?
The Stormers are acting up alot lately. Shame mamma se kindjie. The idignation they are suffering at wanting to be the centre of attention because they are no 1 for now…. Now it looks like they can’t handle any comments anymore – don’t! say anything (negative) about the Stormers, but! don’t! also say anything about the Bulls or the Sharks. it’s really a problem.
plenty of examples right here in this thread.
**along with the usual disclaimer required for all the innocent Stormpies out there. You know who you are.
12 Jul 2012, 16:14 pm
@Biscuit(Biscuit)-139: thought that was the permutations with regards the reds…
think the Cheetahs will prove very tough for the Sharks, especially with Bissie on the bench.. they may just provide the upset..
cant see the reds beating the tahs by 5 either, but with Cooper back if they score one early then I think they will play expansively and try to accomplish it..
12 Jul 2012, 16:15 pm
Later
12 Jul 2012, 16:15 pm
@William Webb Ellis is now at home(poppa69)-145: by bonus point win I meant..
12 Jul 2012, 16:18 pm
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-143: Ha Ha, “Band of Brothers” classic
12 Jul 2012, 16:19 pm
Let’s hope any of the three teams win the Final.
Maybe Ryan can write an article on this tomorrow >
Was the entire S15 a waste of time already or not?
12 Jul 2012, 16:20 pm
@shooter(shooter)-144:
Shame all you want, you have the whole thing so backwards it’s actually funny.
The Stormers fans are perfectly fine discussing anything else, but it’s you Sharky and Bully fans who can’t bear the thought of the Stormers doing well who try to consistently break down their achievements this season. Acting up a lot? The only ones acting up are bitter Bullys who miss Bakkies and Sharkies who thinks they are now the best because the crushed the Bulls.
And i don’t even care, go ahead. But then YOU get to wear the whiny mamma se kindjie flag, cmon, you are earning it.
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