Sadie to quit Bulls?
19 Jul 2012
Johann Sadie has asked the Bulls to be released from his current contract.
According to SuperSport.com, the former Stormers centre has expressed his wish to continue his career elsewhere. This after spending just seven months at the Pretoria franchise, that has him held to a two-year contract that reportedly pays R1.4 million a season.
It has been a frustrating period for the 23-year-old as he has struggled with injury and poor form. This has seen him fail to land a regular place in the Bulls’ match 22 since limping off in the 13th minute during the team’s Super Rugby opener against the Sharks.
Bulls head coach Frans Ludeke confirmed that Sadie could make an early transfer.
‘We are very aware of Johan’s situation and his future and he is concerned that he isn’t getting the playing opportunities he needs because of injuries. He wants to get onto the field to establish himself but is worried he can’t at the moment,’ said Ludeke.
‘We will always look at a player’s situation and take it to heart. We will always consult with the player and take the best decision for his career going forward. We have given him the green light to look at other options to see if he can get better playing opportunities at other provinces.’
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20 Jul 2012, 10:07 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-246:
Different perspective for you:
I am thanking the Bulls for not getting Goosen, so that he could play S15 this year already.
20 Jul 2012, 10:08 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-249:
More Baas Tac
20 Jul 2012, 10:08 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-237: Nope. Jake White also played the ’2 province dream team’ before the 2007 world cup…..What was our record like before the WC?
And also pray tell me: why does the ’2 province dream team’ get the credit for the wins under P Divvy? YET: when the Boks lost Divvy took the blame? You can’t have it both ways…….and neither can Taccy.
20 Jul 2012, 10:09 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-246: I’m playing devil’s advocate here, I know, but I do believe that often provincial interests, and the skewed buying power in SA does cause long-term damage to the national pool of talent.
In any company, the hiring process involves testing for a cultural ‘fit’. In fact it is clearly recognised as exceptionally important to the success of someone’s career. So surely the talent scouts should recognise that an english-speaking player from a more liberal upbringing, used to playing a more flowing, creative, individualistic game probably won’t slot in that well at the Bulls. But they sign them anyway, and then spend years trying to donner a square peg into a round hole.
20 Jul 2012, 10:10 am
@Atreides(Atreides)-254:
Or just sign him to prevent other unions from using him.
20 Jul 2012, 10:10 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-245:
Indeed.
Try and explain to a youngster that he should go and get buttfucked at the Lions for R35 a month an all the Nandos he can eat when he could be making a a bar a year at the Bulls.
“all for the bok cause kumbaya”
20 Jul 2012, 10:10 am
@pompies2(pompies2)-250:
On the flip side, we haven’t had a players strike before a Super Rugby semi final yet…
20 Jul 2012, 10:12 am
@willievz(willievz)-251:
Well, his doctors are thankful too, given all the fees they’ve earned from him being pushed too hard before he was old enough. How long has he been out injured now?
20 Jul 2012, 10:12 am
@willievz(willievz)-251: Thank the pope! Can you imagine how hard they would try to turn him into another Morne Steyn. I don’t think they’d stop till they had hammered every creative decision-making brain cell out of his head,
Like they tried to turn Hougie into Fourie Du Preez.
20 Jul 2012, 10:13 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-258: Cme on, that was a freakish injury. At least they’re not trying to clone him into a mini-Arnold
20 Jul 2012, 10:14 am
Indeed if he’s good enough he’s old enough he’s injured enough.
20 Jul 2012, 10:14 am
@willievz(willievz)-248:
and how exactly is that senario different from how Sadie featured with the bulls given that he himself has been injured on and off.
that smacks of sour grapes
20 Jul 2012, 10:15 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-257: Geez, is that it? I suppose you’re referring to the Stormers? 1stly, I’ve never mentioned my allegiance to any side. Secondly, I don’t see how your response relates.
20 Jul 2012, 10:15 am
@Atreides(Atreides)-254:
Are you referring to the flowing, individualistic more creative team that has failed to score a single 4 try bonuspoint this year, versus the boring team that scored the most tries 2009, 2010 and second most in 2012?
Hmmm. I think I see what you’re getting at.
20 Jul 2012, 10:15 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-200:
“214.skopskiet:
12 Jan 2010, 19:25 pm
tell Robzim to come fetch his great white man eating nazi pet and f’off from Fish Hoek beach. Thats now the 2nd known victim of this cold blooded killer while it gets protected by all the soft soap ecology saving great white killer lovers while its allowed to roam free and kill again. Somebody should put a price on this scum of the ocean’s head and send it to an early grave before it chow’s another human wading waist high and disappearing to his watery nemesis without a trace.”
“217.skopskiet:
12 Jan 2010, 19:55 pm
cold blooded man eating killer is a cold blooded man eating killer.
Tell me aren’t there enough helpless unsuspecting seals out in deep waters or around seal island for this man eating scum killer to go get his penchant for warm red blood fulfilled that this cold blooded killer has to come circle a human less than 30 mt’s from shore amongst a host of unsuspecting humans and eat his unsuspecting human prey in absolutely cold blood. Then they still get elevated to some type of pinnacle of natures majesty by the nature protectorates, these cold blooded scum coward man eating killers.”
“229.skopskiet:
12 Jan 2010, 20:31 pm
20-30 mt’s from shore is not shark territory. Humans been wading in waist high waters since happy Harry beach stroller gathered perlemoen for dinner snacks. This cold blooded killer is same scum that took granny couple years back. Now he’s tasted human its his gourmet yearly feast. Spots a host of unsuspecting bathers and realizes its gourmet human dish time and comes chow an unsuspecting human for after dinner mint’s. Put a price on this scum’s head else he’ll be back for more.”
“234.skopskiet:
12 Jan 2010, 20:45 pm
and its also those chum chum chumps fault for chumming the poor sharks senses into synonymously associating human presence with food. Far too many grey areas surrounding these great white nazi human killing machines. Man reckons he can take tourists into cages and chum the waters to attract these killers without consequences. Leave them out in the deep waters in their natural habitat, not come looking around humans for food.
Yeah JR a unsuspecting Zim tourist got chow’d by possibly and maybe even probably the same great white killer that ate granny two years back. Just hoping its not my current client’s family that its happened to, they’re Zim nationals on holiday at their Fish Hoek holiday home. Hope it aint someone I know perhaps. Will know by tomorrow.”
“250.skopskiet:
12 Jan 2010, 21:34 pm
if it was a lion or a leopard or a hippo or rhino or a croc they’d hunt the killer down and take it out because he’s encroaching on human territory. Now because we are mammals and breath air and not through gills our natural leisure areas like beach bathing areas is still sacred sharks territory. They are cold blooded killers some or maybe most of them and shouldn’t be revered as some type of sea god amongst natures creatures. A man eating lion is an abhorration to human existance same as a man eating shark and such cold blooded man eaters should get put out our misery and get same deserts that any cold blooded murderer gets. The beach authorities should also clamp down on bathing if any such dangers exist. If sharks were spotted this morning then no bathing should be allowed anywhere near the area, period. I myself took a dip off those same rocks maybe within a few meters from where this killling took place today just late this last Saturday afternoon. Could have been me if chummy boy was on the gourmet prowl late Saturday afternoon.”
20 Jul 2012, 10:16 am
@Atreides(Atreides)-260:
His shoulder was already buggered before he started in that game. They played him because they were desperate. At the Bulls, he would have been managed properly, because we have the resources to do so.
20 Jul 2012, 10:19 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-253:
excuse me but the bulls only started featuring regularly from 2004 onwards. Up until then the boks hadn’t even beaten the kiwis once in 3-4 seasons. The bulls were also at their peak from 2007 onwards.
Personally I believe the boks definately had the playing personal to dominate from 2007-2011.
20 Jul 2012, 10:19 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-265: Oh dear.
20 Jul 2012, 10:19 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-268:
skopskiet really does hate (real) sharks – “cold blooded man eating Nazi sharks”.
20 Jul 2012, 10:19 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-257:
no… you just organized a union vote to fire the bok coach while the boks were on an overseas tour…
20 Jul 2012, 10:20 am
there’s also something to be said withregards to a players temperment.
Johann Sadie looks very soft in this regard.
20 Jul 2012, 10:20 am
In any case, how has Burton Francis’s development been going at the Stormers?
Or Danie Poolman? Do you guys reckon if JJ Engelbrecht had stayed he would have gotten regular gametime at the Stormers?
How’s that young Catrikilis going? Of Van Aswegen? Injured is he? Kinda like Sadie this season, what?
20 Jul 2012, 10:20 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-258:
Was expecting this response. But injuries are part of the game. 20-year olds like Goosen and hardcore seasoned professionals like Schalk Burger experienced injuries this year, yet everyone pigeonholes Goosen’s injury as being down to youth and brittle bones. It is a convenient excuse, but a normative one.
In any case, Goosen’s return is imminent. He might even play for the Boks this year, under Heyneke – who unlike you thinks he is good enough to play test rugby at 20.
Would he have been considered for the Boks if he played Vodacom for the Bulls this year?
20 Jul 2012, 10:21 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-258:
Here’s one for you to reflect on:
I view people as follows: you are either seed of Avraham or Gentile; how’s that? I include myself in the latter.
I know this will scare the living the daylights out of you so you won’t explore it but I thought it will be good for you to know.
20 Jul 2012, 10:21 am
@ufo(ufo)-270:
errm, nice one.
but everything put to the floor for discussion or vote has to be seconded.
20 Jul 2012, 10:23 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-275:
eerrrm… wtf you talking about brig…
20 Jul 2012, 10:23 am
@ufo(ufo)-270:
And their fans organised a boycott of Loftus…
20 Jul 2012, 10:23 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-274:
I have no idea what you’re talking about, or how it relates to this topic.
20 Jul 2012, 10:25 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-277:
yeah.. i forgot that…
because you couldn’t tell that anyone actually stayed away,..
20 Jul 2012, 10:26 am
@ufo(ufo)-279:
20 Jul 2012, 10:26 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-267: They had the personnel to dominate – but they didn’t……………………………..and that is the only fact in question here. (And don’t be blaming the coach my ninja – because the same players you give credit to for the wins, are the same players who should then be credited with the losses and f eck ups)
We have not dominated world rugby for an extended period of time with ’2 province dream teams’ or ’5 province dream teams’ or ’1 province dream teams’ – so Taccy’s argument is a fail, as is your attempt to support Taccy’s argument.
PS: Taccy seems to forget the 2010 season…when the Bulls and Stormers brought the winning culture to the Bok squad after a great S14 – and how did that work out?
20 Jul 2012, 10:27 am
@ufo(ufo)-276:
the bulls may have floored the topic of a “vote for no confidence” against jake white, but the other unions were quite happy to second the motion…
20 Jul 2012, 10:28 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-269: man eating Nazis……..
While his hatred towards the magnificent beasts p i s s e s me off, that particular description is pretty amusing. Nazi predators…..
20 Jul 2012, 10:28 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-278:
Bangbroek
Gaan doen jou huiswerk
20 Jul 2012, 10:29 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-272: Burton Francis has not developed, which is sad, but then again, he was bought more as an insurance policy, rather than a talent to be developed. That’s why the Bulls bought him.
Allister Coetzee won’t be holding the Super rugby trophy this year, because he hasn’t been true to the game and karma has a way of biting you back. The only good that the stormers will get from this season is possibly a home final which could further fill their coffers. Seems this is more important than the game.
20 Jul 2012, 10:29 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-281:
well then, why do the same 14 all black crusaders get drilled a new arrsehole when they play the bullsat loftus but play the boks at soccer city in 2010 and we look like braindeadfckwits?
20 Jul 2012, 10:30 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-281:
Seriously, given the sh*t that goes on at SARU, it is a miracle that the Boks have been competitive in any years since readmission. And whatever success we achieved is largely due to some unions keeping their act together while the rest of SA Rugby lurches from disaster to disaster.
20 Jul 2012, 10:30 am
It must be casual Friday at igovernment HQ?
20 Jul 2012, 10:31 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-280:
I know you will think I’m joking but I really admire your desire/ability to research. You are very knowledgeable on many topics.
Are you aware that they locate the real Mt Sinai? (not meant as a trick question)
20 Jul 2012, 10:32 am
@pompies2(pompies2)-285:
I;m still holding out for the bulls doing a number on the crusaders tomorrow.
and if somehow someway they do.
reds can just ship the trophy off to loftus already
20 Jul 2012, 10:32 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-283:
“cold blooded nazi human killing machines”
20 Jul 2012, 10:34 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-282:
ahh…
it only needs one seconder… so saying the other unions were happy to go along with it is stretching it a bit…
fact remains… bulls motivated and pushed for it…
had they not ‘firsted’ it no one would have seconded it…
anyway no real concern to me at all…
just countering tac’s goody-bully-two-hoofs claim…
20 Jul 2012, 10:35 am
What a weak player! Cant even fight for his place in the squad. This will elevate Jan Serfontein to the senior squad sooner rather than later.
20 Jul 2012, 10:36 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-289:
No, I was not.
I was (and still am) under the impression that scholars still disagree about the position of the biblical Mount Sinai.
20 Jul 2012, 10:37 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-264: Did the Cheetahs not score any 4 try bonus points in 2012?
20 Jul 2012, 10:37 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-290:
i am also and still backing the bulls and sharks tomorrow…
but a bit premature of you to claim the trophy today already…
just like graham smith ‘warning’ england the proteas have come to take the number 1 ranking from them…
you gotta do the biz first…
let’s see what happens…
20 Jul 2012, 10:38 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-290: While not impossible, it’s improbable. This crusader side has experience in playing knock-out rugby. Not so much the Bulls, barring 1 or 2. The Crusader would have to have a shocking start and the Bulls, a runaway start.
I feel the Crusaders will apply pressure, particularly in the scrums and might attack the outside centre channel with Freuan against JJ. I essentially see it as a battle between the opposing 8, 9 and 10 trios. Whoever triumphs here will take it.
20 Jul 2012, 10:40 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-286: really?
didn’t the crusaders play at loftus, lose to a controversial hougaard try at the death, fly to christchurch to play the brumbies and then get back on a plane to SA to play at orlando?
20 Jul 2012, 10:40 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-283: Pffft his complete and utter schoolboy ignorance towards these animals is pathetic and laughable
20 Jul 2012, 10:41 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-286: Simple answer…….(and it’s not the one you want)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zve1YKt_Ex4
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