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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186374</link>
		<dc:creator>SjamBok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its pretty clear that teh bulls (and Boks) gameplan has a fault. they rely on the kick and chase in their half, and getting over the advantage line with big loosies. BUT if another team keeps the ball in hand in their half, and takes it through the hands without kicking it, and the bulls lose at the gainline, then they just dont have a fetcher to create turnovers  in defence. As soon as the fetcher (Stegman) came on,  the Crusaders could not get aout of their half as easily as before, and the Bulls got some decent possession (not just in their own half).

The Bulls need a game plan for when they are losing the collisions. They need to start keeping the ball alive by pop passing (a la the Sharks) and bringing on a fetcher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its pretty clear that teh bulls (and Boks) gameplan has a fault. they rely on the kick and chase in their half, and getting over the advantage line with big loosies. BUT if another team keeps the ball in hand in their half, and takes it through the hands without kicking it, and the bulls lose at the gainline, then they just dont have a fetcher to create turnovers  in defence. As soon as the fetcher (Stegman) came on,  the Crusaders could not get aout of their half as easily as before, and the Bulls got some decent possession (not just in their own half).</p>
<p>The Bulls need a game plan for when they are losing the collisions. They need to start keeping the ball alive by pop passing (a la the Sharks) and bringing on a fetcher.</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186268</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NZINCHINA-314&lt;/a&gt;: Don&#039;t call me a Bulls supporter, please, ever. I&#039;d rather back Samoa for the fairplay awards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186101" rel="nofollow">NZINCHINA-314</a>: Don&#8217;t call me a Bulls supporter, please, ever. I&#8217;d rather back Samoa for the fairplay awards.</p>
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		<title>By: fitz1ella</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186184</link>
		<dc:creator>fitz1ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186105&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Donkeys Egg-315&lt;/a&gt;:  howdy doody WN - BP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186105" rel="nofollow">The Donkeys Egg-315</a>:  howdy doody WN &#8211; BP</p>
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		<title>By: The Donkeys Egg</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186105</link>
		<dc:creator>The Donkeys Egg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Stormers owe Mark Hammett and the Hurricanes a pallet of the Capes finest pinotage. Were it not for their valiant, but eventually in vain, victory over the Chiefs then the Stormers wouldnt have the luxury of Home priority in the playoffs and, Heaven forbid, they might even have had to face the Crusaders.

Instead, due to the NZ Conference being by far the toughest and most competitive, the Stormers have to face a limited team with a brittle spine in the Sharks and will then rest up as the smashed up Kiwis arrive via 4 timezones for the Final.

Its even funnier when you remember that if it wasnt for Bryce Lawrence awarding the winning try, that wasnt, then the Hurricanes would never have beaten the Chiefs and with it the Stormers their home advantage.

That Bryce. Always doing the Saffas a favour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stormers owe Mark Hammett and the Hurricanes a pallet of the Capes finest pinotage. Were it not for their valiant, but eventually in vain, victory over the Chiefs then the Stormers wouldnt have the luxury of Home priority in the playoffs and, Heaven forbid, they might even have had to face the Crusaders.</p>
<p>Instead, due to the NZ Conference being by far the toughest and most competitive, the Stormers have to face a limited team with a brittle spine in the Sharks and will then rest up as the smashed up Kiwis arrive via 4 timezones for the Final.</p>
<p>Its even funnier when you remember that if it wasnt for Bryce Lawrence awarding the winning try, that wasnt, then the Hurricanes would never have beaten the Chiefs and with it the Stormers their home advantage.</p>
<p>That Bryce. Always doing the Saffas a favour.</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186101</link>
		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186090&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goyougoodthing2-313&lt;/a&gt;: 

yer from you but not 99% of the other Bulls fans, the reffing is poor overall, the speed of the game now makes it impossible for a ref to do a &quot;great&quot; job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186090" rel="nofollow">goyougoodthing2-313</a>: </p>
<p>yer from you but not 99% of the other Bulls fans, the reffing is poor overall, the speed of the game now makes it impossible for a ref to do a &#8220;great&#8221; job.</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186090</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NZINCHINA-312&lt;/a&gt;: You do realise it&#039;s all a windup...

In the paper today an ex (SA) referee said Kraplan was brilliant and Peyper was poor.

OK, so the result in both was never in question but I think that they both were &#039;poor&#039; in terms of actually seeing the game.

The ex referee seemed to suggest that the Bulls would have done better if Peyper blew it properly!!!

Kraplan just missed everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186082" rel="nofollow">NZINCHINA-312</a>: You do realise it&#8217;s all a windup&#8230;</p>
<p>In the paper today an ex (SA) referee said Kraplan was brilliant and Peyper was poor.</p>
<p>OK, so the result in both was never in question but I think that they both were &#8216;poor&#8217; in terms of actually seeing the game.</p>
<p>The ex referee seemed to suggest that the Bulls would have done better if Peyper blew it properly!!!</p>
<p>Kraplan just missed everything.</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186072&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goyougoodthing2-311&lt;/a&gt;: 
 
exactly, now where are those Bulls fans, Houston and Up the guts where are you, lots to discuss?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186072" rel="nofollow">goyougoodthing2-311</a>: </p>
<p>exactly, now where are those Bulls fans, Houston and Up the guts where are you, lots to discuss?</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
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		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186062&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NZINCHINA-309&lt;/a&gt;: Infringements on the Sharks line, blatant outright cheating on the Ozzy line or any form of contact involving McCaw. Yes...

Sharks infringe
Ozzies and McCaw... cheat.

:-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186062" rel="nofollow">NZINCHINA-309</a>: Infringements on the Sharks line, blatant outright cheating on the Ozzy line or any form of contact involving McCaw. Yes&#8230;</p>
<p>Sharks infringe<br />
Ozzies and McCaw&#8230; cheat.</p>
<p> <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186070</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186061&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Donkeys Egg-308&lt;/a&gt;: No fair with PDV in charge of 4 of those, the manMuppet LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186061" rel="nofollow">The Donkeys Egg-308</a>: No fair with PDV in charge of 4 of those, the manMuppet LOL</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186062</link>
		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh and is it infringements now, I thought you called it cheating?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and is it infringements now, I thought you called it cheating?</p>
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		<title>By: The Donkeys Egg</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Donkeys Egg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186037&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goyougoodthing2-299&lt;/a&gt;: 

Did you know that in the last 6 x TriNs, since the tournament featuried 3 home games for each team, that the Springboks have only once avoided the Wooden Spoon. Essentially because they cant win at home.

Or away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186037" rel="nofollow">goyougoodthing2-299</a>: </p>
<p>Did you know that in the last 6 x TriNs, since the tournament featuried 3 home games for each team, that the Springboks have only once avoided the Wooden Spoon. Essentially because they cant win at home.</p>
<p>Or away.</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186059</link>
		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186056&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goyougoodthing2-306&lt;/

you have said here  the Sharks don&#039;t cheat, they cheated last night numerous times on their own goal line in front of a SAFFA ref are you disputing that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186056" rel="nofollow">goyougoodthing2-306&lt;/</p>
<p>you have said here  the Sharks don&#039;t cheat, they cheated last night numerous times on their own goal line in front of a SAFFA ref are you disputing that?</a></p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186056</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186053&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NZINCHINA-304&lt;/a&gt;: Your logic then is because Bryce stole a world cup last year, it&#039;s fine, but because there were infringements yesterday it is wrong.

What a joke that is.

Regardless, Sharks would still have won and Genia&#039;s try was set up by a forward pass a Dallas Cowboy Quarterback would be proud of.

And whilst McCheat is playing rugby, the kiwis have no legs to stand on when it comes to cheating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186053" rel="nofollow">NZINCHINA-304</a>: Your logic then is because Bryce stole a world cup last year, it&#8217;s fine, but because there were infringements yesterday it is wrong.</p>
<p>What a joke that is.</p>
<p>Regardless, Sharks would still have won and Genia&#8217;s try was set up by a forward pass a Dallas Cowboy Quarterback would be proud of.</p>
<p>And whilst McCheat is playing rugby, the kiwis have no legs to stand on when it comes to cheating.</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/07/21/crusaders-vs-bulls-0935-ko/#comment-2186055</link>
		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who will ever take  Bulls fans seriously again when they talk about cheating and other teams what a joke, nearly as funny as Steyns performance last night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who will ever take  Bulls fans seriously again when they talk about cheating and other teams what a joke, nearly as funny as Steyns performance last night.</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186049&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goyougoodthing2-303&lt;/a&gt;: 

the Sharks were committing professional fouls on their own try line and should have been binned end of story, Bryce has already been crucified and had death threats I would have thought that was enough you boys will never learn, the Bulls and Sharks &quot;cheated&quot; your word not mine last night in spades]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186049" rel="nofollow">goyougoodthing2-303</a>: </p>
<p>the Sharks were committing professional fouls on their own try line and should have been binned end of story, Bryce has already been crucified and had death threats I would have thought that was enough you boys will never learn, the Bulls and Sharks &#8220;cheated&#8221; your word not mine last night in spades</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
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		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2186046&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NZINCHINA-302&lt;/a&gt;: Hmmm, a bit like a quarter final i remember recently... but that referee was fine I guess, yes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2186046" rel="nofollow">NZINCHINA-302</a>: Hmmm, a bit like a quarter final i remember recently&#8230; but that referee was fine I guess, yes</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and as for the Sharks and Kaplan enough said, he must have left his yellow cards in the refs office]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and as for the Sharks and Kaplan enough said, he must have left his yellow cards in the refs office</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Entering a ruck from the side, what about half the Bulls teams entering the ruck from behind Ellis, cynical cheating all night late/high tackles what a joke after listening to Houston bleating like a lamb about the Crusaders for months on end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entering a ruck from the side, what about half the Bulls teams entering the ruck from behind Ellis, cynical cheating all night late/high tackles what a joke after listening to Houston bleating like a lamb about the Crusaders for months on end.</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[212.UptheGuts said:  
21 Jul 2012, 08:53 am 

LOL THE bulls cheated all night, you don&#039;t have a leg to stand on, im ready to talk where are you?

@NZINCHINA-211: “Blackadder has already pleaded his side’s case by stating his props have been instructed at training not to put their hands on the deck during scrums and anyone entering a ruck needs to be cautious about remaining on his feet. ”
Looks like we complain with reason, no? Someone up there must’ve just joined the Keo realm, as it took them long enough. You watch Hougaard having to negate alot of red and black bodies to get to the ball on his side of the ruck. We’ll talk after…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>212.UptheGuts said:<br />
21 Jul 2012, 08:53 am </p>
<p>LOL THE bulls cheated all night, you don&#8217;t have a leg to stand on, im ready to talk where are you?</p>
<p>@NZINCHINA-211: “Blackadder has already pleaded his side’s case by stating his props have been instructed at training not to put their hands on the deck during scrums and anyone entering a ruck needs to be cautious about remaining on his feet. ”<br />
Looks like we complain with reason, no? Someone up there must’ve just joined the Keo realm, as it took them long enough. You watch Hougaard having to negate alot of red and black bodies to get to the ball on his side of the ruck. We’ll talk after…</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
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		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2185976&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Donkeys Egg-296&lt;/a&gt;: OK, as long as the World Cup is always held in NZ, you will be worldchumps, yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2185976" rel="nofollow">The Donkeys Egg-296</a>: OK, as long as the World Cup is always held in NZ, you will be worldchumps, yes.</p>
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