Bosman tasked with central role
25 Jul 2012
Meyer Bosman will start at No 12 against the Stormers this Saturday while Tim Whitehead has been shifted to No 13.
Paul Jordaan has failed a late fitness test, and so Sharks coach John Plumtree has been forced to make a change in midfield. Without Frans Steyn available and with Whitehead moving to outside centre, the Sharks will rely on Bosman, their third-choice No 12, in that key position.
Pat Lambie has also lost his race for fitness and so Louis Ludik will retain the No 15 jersey.
The pack remains unchanged, but Plumtree has opted for a five-two split on the bench. Jean Deysel has been added to the 22 and should feature in the second half of Saturday’s semi-final.
Sharks – 15 Louis Ludik, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Tim Whitehead, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Keegan Daniel (c), 5 Anton Bresler, 4 Willem Alberts, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Steven Sykes, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Jacques Botes, 21 Odwa Ndungane, 22 Riaan Viljoen.
232 Comments
25 Jul 2012, 15:12 pm
Crusaders will play in CT next week. Sharks played their final last week..
25 Jul 2012, 15:14 pm
beast vs brok the rock
25 Jul 2012, 15:14 pm
5-2 split with two flankers.
The Sharks will spread the ball to the wide channels early.
25 Jul 2012, 15:15 pm
@line break-1: You have use “dragons” if you get post #1 china
25 Jul 2012, 15:16 pm
Lawrence’s Test career over
Can this be True?
sport24 . co . za/Rugby/Lawrences-Test-career-over-20120725
I suppose he fulfilled his purpose, helped NZ win the cup, so if not more use. Good riddance
25 Jul 2012, 15:17 pm
Weak link. Jdv and jdj will run through him whole day
25 Jul 2012, 15:18 pm
@line break-1: Positive affirmation ? LOL.
Yes, the Stormers can play in CT next weekend in the final…..there is just the matter of a 80 minute semi-final to play. If they negotiate that successfully then yes – you are correct.
25 Jul 2012, 15:19 pm
@Sasuke-6: Ja – this is not good news for the Sharks. I think they should have moved JP Pietersen to 13 and rather figured something else out for the wing, although JP has been in awesome form on the wing so I can imagine how the hammer would have come down on plum if he had done that.
25 Jul 2012, 15:20 pm
@willievz-3: I hoped the stormers would also go with a 5-2 bench split have de kock and quinn roux on the bench
25 Jul 2012, 15:22 pm
@Dusky-8: yes according to this poll jp is the best wing in the world!
25 Jul 2012, 15:22 pm
gotta larf at the way the keolings are baiting with their article headlines.
‘bosman tasked with central riole’…
tsk tsk
25 Jul 2012, 15:23 pm
Sasuke you are correct that they can run through him all day but that is only if the pack gets front foot ball… And this Sharks pack looks good…
25 Jul 2012, 15:24 pm
@Sasuke-10: I think that is something that is very difficult to measure, but at the moment he probably is very close to being. It will be him vs. fat lips Habana – interesting match up, and a special match up with some history in Super rugby finals history…..
25 Jul 2012, 15:28 pm
Meyer Bosman’s defence has improved a lot. Last weekend he was 12 form 12 on tackles.
13 from13 if you included the try-saving tackle on himself!
25 Jul 2012, 15:28 pm
Fourie at 8 counts in Sharks favour and Bosman at 12 in Stormers favour…
25 Jul 2012, 15:30 pm
This Bosman will sink the guppies deep. Game over!
25 Jul 2012, 15:32 pm
Louis Ludik played well last Saturday. Good news for the Stormers though that Bosman is starting.
This will be a tooiight one. My money is on the Stormers and then I bloody well hope that the Chiefs pull a sneaky one on the Crusaders…
25 Jul 2012, 15:33 pm
@GermanBok-17: Louis Ludik is playing outstanding rugby.
25 Jul 2012, 15:34 pm
@THE MAULER-15:
2 Weeks ago I would have said the same about Fourie but after his man of the match performance at no 8 the Rebels I am not so sure anymore. He is certainly not your traditional no 8 but he brings something else too the pitch- some will even call it the x-factor.
25 Jul 2012, 15:35 pm
@RL: i think your rite
though i hope your wrong
25 Jul 2012, 15:35 pm
Oh yes Meyer Bosman was destroyed at Newlands last year and no Lambie also great for Stormers, but still very wary of the Sharks front row and JP’s form has been electric. Gonna be a nail biter.
25 Jul 2012, 15:36 pm
Robzim true but it was the Rebels… And Bosman actually had a good game vs Reds apart from his great tackle…:)
25 Jul 2012, 15:38 pm
@RL-16:
come now… the guy’s ’12 from 12 tackles’…
25 Jul 2012, 15:40 pm
the Sharks pack has a decent look about it. And halfbacks, as a combo, ask more questions.
25 Jul 2012, 15:41 pm
@THE MAULER-22:
The other good thing about having Fourie at number 8 is that it means he won’t have to throw the ball into the lineouts. That will be very good for bekker’s temper and the Sharks will probably no longer get the “line-out freebies” that Fourie has consistently handed out to opposing teams over the last 3 seasons.
25 Jul 2012, 15:43 pm
@willievz-18: Louis Ludik, JP Pietersen, Marcell Coetzee, Keegan Daniel, Willem Alberts and Bismarck du Plessis are all playing outstanding rugby.
This really should be interesting but somehow I think the Stormers won’t allow the Sharks the freedom they were given against the Reds. Let’s see. A final in NZ (especially against the Crusaders) would be a bloody tough task though. So, I am hoping for the Stormers to win.
25 Jul 2012, 15:46 pm
@keo-24:
what kind of questions?
i hate a srummie who talks too much.
25 Jul 2012, 15:46 pm
If Mayor Bushman ends up having a half decent game, the Stormers fans will be well fcked as they appear to have no apparent Plan B.
25 Jul 2012, 15:46 pm
People seem to forget Bosman was at 12 when the Sharks played the Stormers in Durban…
25 Jul 2012, 15:49 pm
@Robzim-25:
Fourie and Liebenburger couldn’t hit a Piñata with a shovel.
The stormers line out functions about as well as Stephen Hawkings topspin serve.
25 Jul 2012, 15:50 pm
the mercurial meyer
or
meyer the mercurial
25 Jul 2012, 15:50 pm
Let’s hope he doesn’t slip on the try way
25 Jul 2012, 15:51 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-30:
i thought liebenberg was the pinata
25 Jul 2012, 15:54 pm
The Shark’s may regret the 5-2 split if they lose either of their halfbacks.
25 Jul 2012, 15:55 pm
As a sharks man – I imagine poor JDV & JDJ panicking at the thought or marking Bosman!-)
25 Jul 2012, 15:56 pm
@Lorenzo-32:
Is this some kind of newfangled exercise machine?
How does it work?
25 Jul 2012, 15:57 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-30:
hahahahaha – u the second person who mentioned Hawkings to me today- the other person was more kind towards him.
Liebenburger is marginally more accurate – that one additional accurate throw can make the difference. The worst throw of the year was when Fourie aimed for Bekker and Stirling Mortlock caught it at outside centre after being lifted by the fullback.
25 Jul 2012, 15:58 pm
Think Stormers can do some damage to the Sharks at lineout… Get Bismarck to stress there, think it s the discipline he enjoys the least… Brilliant at scrumtime and rampaging, but just OK at lineout… Bekker needs to stand tall…
25 Jul 2012, 15:59 pm
@stormer in a teacup-34:
you mean brock and grant?
25 Jul 2012, 16:00 pm
@stormer in a teacup-34: My thoughts too.
25 Jul 2012, 16:03 pm
@Robzim-37: Unfortunately that’s the risk you take when you play a hooker with hands the size of a pikey midget’s: line-out throws as dependable as a Wayne Ferreira 1st serve.
25 Jul 2012, 16:06 pm
@Robzim-37: LOL!!!, just imagining it…., insane.
25 Jul 2012, 16:06 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-36:
its a lota fun
basically you run full tilt at a uniform white line directly opposite you
and when about two meters from the line you fall down and flap your arms in a backwards motion.
can be practised indoors at the gym or outdoors in a park as well a pitch.
25 Jul 2012, 16:08 pm
@wait for it, wait for it…-39: The Sharks Whitney.
25 Jul 2012, 16:08 pm
I’m backing the Stormers for the match as they’re our best chance for winning the competition despite the Sharks fine form. Traveling to play the Chiefs or Saders away would be a bridge too far for Plums boys; and having Boskak at centre is a crippling handicap.
25 Jul 2012, 16:11 pm
@stormer in a teacup-34: We done okay against Stormers at KP with a 5-2 split then.
Bosman also started at 12 for that game. Tim was out injured. Think we will be fine with Bosman he actually played well last week except for that trip over his feet..lol. Otherwise he was actually not bad at all.
25 Jul 2012, 16:11 pm
@>^..^< katman-41:
Lol, or perhaps Kevin Curran’s.
Not sure if the size of hands really play a role but perhaps you have a point.
In the amateur area WP had a bloke called Shaun Povey who was just about the most accurate line-out thrower i have seen. He used to practice alone for hours each day till he got it right – marked spots on the poles and aimed at it- these days the players are professionals and have all the time and assistance in the world to get it right- how hard can it be?
25 Jul 2012, 16:13 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-45: Sharks beat Stormers when we played them last time with Bosman at 12.
25 Jul 2012, 16:15 pm
Technically the Stormers will have an additional man in defence on Saturday. Meyer Bosman doesn’t need Jean or Juan marking him, because he takes care of his own defence on himself.
That allows us the opportunity to fan out where to where the real threats are.
25 Jul 2012, 16:15 pm
@Puma-48: OK then, a minor handicap.
25 Jul 2012, 16:15 pm
@stormer in a teacup-44:
oh i see
25 Jul 2012, 16:18 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-50: Look I would rather my team had Jordaan starting. But he is injured and Bosman has played well this year, whether some think so or not. Sure he fell over his feet last week……….hahaha. Damn it was funny, but might have been so funny if we needed that try. However, he played actually well when he came on. Never missed a tackle at all.
25 Jul 2012, 16:19 pm
@Puma-46: I think Meyer is a fine player. If the have to bring him into 10 they will reshuffle their backline in 4 places.
25 Jul 2012, 16:23 pm
Last week I really enjoyed the sharks play even if I am a stormers supporter but I must admit that the highlight was when Meyer Bosman tripped over his own feet with a open tryline beckoning ! It was one of those classic Jorrie Moments.
25 Jul 2012, 16:25 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.-49: Crusaders rising rugby star owes it all to a porker
”When I first found out I had to have an operation I was really down about it,” Fruean said. ”To be told you’re not allowed to play because of a heart condition really upsets a young guy. I was going through a real emotional time back then. Me being me, I just heard the doctor tell us about the first option, which was a mechanical valve which meant I couldn’t play any more. I really broke down, I just walked out of the office and I didn’t know what I was going to do.”
Named the International Rugby Board’s under-19 player of 2007 after leading New Zealand to the age-group World Cup title, Fruean contracted rheumatic fever months later and suffered serious heart complications.
Had Fruean, now 21, chosen the mechanical device – a plastic valve – his career would have been over before it began. Plastic valves can cause clots because the body fights against the foreign device, and patients constantly need to take blood-thinning medication that ends any possibility of playing professional sport.
Pig’s hearts are the closest of all to human hearts, and the valve replacement is more readily accepted by the human immune system.
”My family told me later that the doctor had continued on and told them about a second option, the pig’s valve, and that I could still play rugby.
”It was a big relief, I just really wanted to pursue a career in rugby. If they had told me there was no second option, I probably would have told them not to worry about the operation so I could keep playing … no, I would have been realistic about it, but I am just thankful there was a way for me to keep playing.”
In making the decision to have the pig’s valve inserted, Fruean showed how desperate he was to become a professional sportsman. Pig’s valves last for only 15 years.
”I will need to get it replaced in about 10 years,” Fruean said
Asked if he had a new appreciation for pigs, Fruean laughed: ”Yeah, I do tend to enjoy my bacon more now.”
25 Jul 2012, 16:26 pm
@sparticus-54: hahaha. It was funny bud, think we all had a laugh. Though Bissie was gonna give him a flattie right there…….hahaha. Just pleased we never needed that try otherwise it might not have been so funny. Other than that he actually played really very well.
25 Jul 2012, 16:26 pm
@Puma-52: I guess everyone else is in such good form for the Sharks and Jordaan seems such a prospect that it’s easy to stick the boot into Bosman when he misses a try like that. Apart from that he was OK I suppose.
25 Jul 2012, 16:27 pm
@sparticus-54: A few players slipped over during that game. Meyers was just the most obvious and costly.
25 Jul 2012, 16:27 pm
@Puma-56: though = thought
25 Jul 2012, 16:29 pm
@Transformation-55: Must be why Sunni Bill left the Crusaders.
25 Jul 2012, 16:29 pm
@sparticus-54: I actually thought he was diving early trying to slide onto the whitewash. Or he’d spotted the wrong tryline.
25 Jul 2012, 16:30 pm
Meyer Bosman gave me a good laugh last Saturday. I am glad he will be back on the pitch this week.
25 Jul 2012, 16:30 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-57: Jordaan was superb though. Bosman had a good game except for that trip over his own feet.
25 Jul 2012, 16:31 pm
@rossoneri-62:
Stormersader
25 Jul 2012, 16:32 pm
@stormer in a teacup-53: Think Viljoen will cover fh.
25 Jul 2012, 16:33 pm
@Puma-63: Yip, really excited about Jordaan. Good to see guys like him and Serfontein who may become quality Bok centres in the future.
25 Jul 2012, 16:33 pm
@Transformation-55:
What is Fernley going to do without his valve?
25 Jul 2012, 16:36 pm
It’s a mystery that the Sharks didn’t learn from the dilemma suffered by the Reds last weekend.
Running out of suitable subs cost the Brisbane outfit dearly.
25 Jul 2012, 16:36 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-67:
25 Jul 2012, 16:38 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-67: He’s never made a rasher decision.
25 Jul 2012, 16:39 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-66: For sure. We have some top class youngsters coming through.
25 Jul 2012, 16:39 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-67: jean de villiers earlier today “it makes for a great semi-final this Saturday. There’s going to be a lot of feeling in that match.”
“feeling”?
i would worry and protect the jewels if i was the sharks players
25 Jul 2012, 16:40 pm
Oh L*rd
Stormers by 6 points
25 Jul 2012, 16:41 pm
@Lang Giel-68: I hope the 5-2 split don’t come back to bite us on the backside. Though we did play with a 5-2 split against Stormers at the Tank and we done very well there.
Odwa covers wing, fb and can also cover centre. Viljoen covers fh and fb. We don’t have cover for sh though if Freddie picks up a injury and Mcloed then we will be in trouble.
Think we are sorted otherwise.
25 Jul 2012, 16:43 pm
@stormer in a teacup-70:
I sure he feels like a chop.
25 Jul 2012, 16:43 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-67: our poor porker
25 Jul 2012, 16:44 pm
@rossoneri-62: The funniest was the Aussie commentator say “There must have been a sniper in the crowd” ….. hahahaha. Had a bloody good laugh….lol.
Other than that trip he played actually well.
25 Jul 2012, 16:47 pm
@Transformation-72:
I’d be more worried about this sort of manouevre.
From SMH.com, 3/29/01
Dirty dozen: Hopoate out for 12
Banned: John Hopoate of the Wests Tigers arrives for his hearing at the judiciary last night. He was suspended for 12 weeks. Photo: Tim Clayton
By Brad Walter
John Hopoate was last night suspended for 12 matches for a “disgraceful act” that his legal counsel said would cause the Wests Tigers international “disgrace and embarrassment”.
In possibly the most bizarre judiciary case ever, the National Rugby League tribunal imposed the heaviest ban in four seasons after hearing more than three hours of evidence about players grabbing opponents by “the nuts”, “the stork” and “the arse” in order to intimidate them. North Queensland players Peter Jones and Glenn Morrison testified that Hopoate had inserted his fingers in their anuses after they had been tackled during the match at Townsville last Saturday night.
Cowboys captain Paul Bowman accused Hopoate of doing the same thing to him after he had completed a tackle.
“I felt fingers. He was pushing up my arse,” Bowman said. “I was disgusted, I couldn’t believe it. If he was a man, he wouldn’t do it.” Morrison said: “It was dreadful, I had pain. It was like someone was trying to put pressure up there.”
In response to suggestions from Hopoate’s counsel, Bernard Gross QC, that his client had been administering “a wedgie”, Jones said: “It was in the anal area. I think I know the difference between a wedgie and someone putting their fingers up my bum.” Hopoate did not shy away from the allegations completely, telling the panel that his prodding of Bowman was “between his arse and his nuts”. But he denied putting his hand under any of the player’s underwear.
“I’ve reached out to try and pull his undies and shorts up his arse to try and make it as uncomfortable as I can,” Hopoate said of the seventh-minute Jones incident. After watching video footage of the Morrison tackle in the 71st minute, Hopoate said: “I was trying to do the same thing – give him a wedgie.”
In the case of Bowman, Gross pointed out that a Cowboys player appeared to have hold of Hopoate “in the forbidden area”, before he was turned over on his back. Hopoate said he had “jabbed” Bowman in order to move him so that he could get up and complete a quick play-the-ball.
On the other occasions, he said he was trying to slow the Cowboys’ play-the-ball. “It happens all the time,” Hopoate said. “You get wedgies all the time, and jabbed in the stork. I’m a great believer that what happens on the field should stay on the field.”
The verdict may have opened a Pandora’s box for the NRL, with Wests coach Terry Lamb estimating that such incidents occur up to 10 times per game.
25 Jul 2012, 16:52 pm
@Transformation-55: One can only admire him and others like him. I think it is the Force’s hooker, Nathan Charles who has cystic fibrosis. I watched a doccie on the work he does for the CF foundation in Australia.
Julian Huxley playing after his brain tumour.
I won’t be putting Spies into the above category, because he doesn’t actually play rugby.
25 Jul 2012, 16:53 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-78: An indignant Hopoate insisted there was daylight and he was on his feet.
25 Jul 2012, 16:53 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-78: sies
i think that’s what jdv had in mind when he said “feeling”.
25 Jul 2012, 16:55 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.-79: aaron cruden after testicular cancer…
25 Jul 2012, 16:55 pm
@>^..^< katman-80:
Roll away 7….
25 Jul 2012, 16:57 pm
@>^..^< katman-80: a real “fetcher”
25 Jul 2012, 16:58 pm
@Transformation-84:
Hands in the kuk..,
25 Jul 2012, 17:02 pm
You can imagine Hopoate’s horror the next day when he saw the word “ruck” in the newspaper and it was indeed spelled with an R.
25 Jul 2012, 17:08 pm
forget pocock meet john “proctoc” hopoate
25 Jul 2012, 17:43 pm
Hopoate sticking his finger in arses.
Now I know what Tac meant by can of whoopass
25 Jul 2012, 17:45 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-78:
> estimating that such incidents occur up to 10 times per game.
No wonder they don’t shake hands after a match?
25 Jul 2012, 17:47 pm
@>^..^< katman-80:
If he was on his feet, he couldn’t have been using his finger….
25 Jul 2012, 17:52 pm
“In the case of Bowman, Gross pointed out that a Cowboys player appeared to have hold of Hopoate “in the forbidden area”, before he was turned over on his back. Hopoate said he had “jabbed” Bowman in order to move him so that he could get up and complete a quick play-the-ball.”
This should be the official definition of an “Aussie”
25 Jul 2012, 17:53 pm
Most teams would be happy to have Bosman as their THIRD CHOISE No12, and he can cover 10!
25 Jul 2012, 17:56 pm
Okay after team announcement, I still stick by my prediction of a Stormers and Chiefs win.
25 Jul 2012, 17:56 pm
@ 90.92.95.96.08.10
Don’t remember asking for the Lotto numbers?
25 Jul 2012, 18:10 pm
The Stormers can afford to leave Bosman unmarked. Frees up an extra defender.
25 Jul 2012, 18:18 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_-94:
It’s the number for the Keo Call centre
Press #1 to refill Chronic “tobacco” precriptions
Press #2 to order Blow
Press #3 to talk dirty with Ryan
Press #4 to order “Keolings Gone Wild”, the un-censored video of the Keo staff in their small caravan the Wellington Caravan Park
25 Jul 2012, 18:35 pm
At least the Sharks don’t have Bismarck or Graig Burden at no8
25 Jul 2012, 18:40 pm
Hmmm, some big talk and bravado about Bossie at 12… But then again Stormers have JdV there… Hardly a clash of Titans at 12 notwithstanding the fact that JdV is Bok Cappie…
However, I would really be interested in thoughts on a Hooker playing at 8… Lineout option anyone? And no I don’t mean throwing in…
Are the Stormers that convinced of his ability there… or is this just arrogance?
Imagine Plum putting Bismarck at 8 in the Semis of Super Rugby… There would be more than just one FB petition to Fire the chap….
Sheezus… Am I the only one eyed man in this Keo Breezing Farts in the wind land of the blind…?
25 Jul 2012, 18:41 pm
Farken Madness… A reserve Hooker at 8 in the Super Rugby semis….
25 Jul 2012, 18:41 pm
@Puma-77:
, no idea what the fuss here is all about?
I personally would pick Bosman over many other inside centres, no need to be appologetic
Mvovo dropped 5 passes last two games, JP only 4
The Sharks problem are Walsh, Jonker and that woeful TMO, not Bosman
25 Jul 2012, 18:43 pm
@Heavens Game-99:
Hello HG, how’s it hanging?
25 Jul 2012, 18:44 pm
So, we have basically the same Stormers pack who got a 20-6 flat tire blowout in the first half against the Sharks in Durbs…
And this was a Sharks pack without an in form Kanko?
Makes me chuckle just thinking about it
25 Jul 2012, 18:45 pm
@Heavens Game-99:
They said he is better than Spies and Ashley Johnson at 8, both are recent ‘Sprongboks’?
25 Jul 2012, 18:47 pm
@victoriabok-101: Its hanging like after having a long, slow slash in the pisstrough… Wet and sloppy.
And that is what I am effectively doing… Pissingon the Keo Stormers homecoming Parade
25 Jul 2012, 18:49 pm
@Hondo-103: Lol… Is that so? So he has transformed miraculously from
“2nd best hooker in SA”
to
“2nd best 8 in SA”
What price “2nd best 8 in the Semi”?
25 Jul 2012, 18:54 pm
Fools on the Hill.
25 Jul 2012, 18:54 pm
@Dawn-106: Shutup wench
25 Jul 2012, 18:55 pm
@Heavens Game-102:
Yeah, except that Bekker is not crocked like he was last time (remember he could not jump in the lineouts or push in the scrums), and that Kolisi will play instead of the useless Canadian. It makes a huge difference, the pack will probably be about 25% better as a result. If you further add the fact that the Sharks will be tired from the travelling (a 10% disadvantage according to Dr Tucker), the homefield advantage….. etc…
It’s not dark yet, but it’s getting there………. (for the sharks)
25 Jul 2012, 18:58 pm
@Heavens Game-102: i see your kanko and i raise you siya kolisi….
25 Jul 2012, 19:01 pm
@Heavens Game-104:
How’s the Banshee?
Would the Sharks be jetlagged?
25 Jul 2012, 19:04 pm
25 Jul 2012, 19:05 pm
Just for interest sake
Sharks “third-choice No 12″ or Bulls 1st choice 12?
25 Jul 2012, 19:07 pm
@Robzim-108: So why was Bekker playing then… if he couldn’t do a damned thing
Btw, Tucker said it was an 8-10 pt advantage, not 10%.
Now, according to some Data analysis of Super Rugby stats from last year by some proper Data miners and stats gurus – not a sports science expert who farts in the wind and comes up with a number (not even a number – a range of 8-10 pts advantage) – the average points advantage for the home team in Super rugby is 8 points anyway…
Tucker the “guru” is not saying anything new… Indeed, he is actually a year behind already….
Since you are so aware of the numbers game… You do know the Sharks are averaging +3.5 tries a game… in knockout situations nogal i.e. the last 3 games and against teams with a stingy defence? (Notwithstanding the cheetahs who held the Stormers to 16 pts just the week before their game against the Sharks)
Whats the Stomers average… Little over 1 try per game?
So, add 8 points to the Stormers 7… Thats 15… Sharks score 3 tries and lets not convert all of them… thats 19…
19-15 to the Sharks… Ceteris paribus
25 Jul 2012, 19:08 pm
@Heavens Game-102: So is the only difference Our Super Bok Etzebeth!?!
25 Jul 2012, 19:10 pm
@victoriabok-110: she on skype with GBS…
25 Jul 2012, 19:10 pm
@Transformation-109: I see your Kolisi and raise you an offloading Keegan…
You see my Keegan and raise me a Fourie…
I see your hooking miracle at 8 and raise you a Kanko…
See now… Reminds me of a certain song…
“You got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.”
Run, buddy run
25 Jul 2012, 19:12 pm
@victoriabok-110: Fark the banshee… Sharks will be jetlagged… But hey, this is redemption time for most of them.
25 Jul 2012, 19:12 pm
@Robzim-108: I don’t think Joe Pietersen played either if my dodgy memory serves me. An injured Bekker, no Kolisi, no Joe P and the poor Canadian who was still trying to find his boots……
And it was an away game…..yet if it had been 5 minutes longer, who knows?
I await the catcalls from medallion wearing Sharkies bemoaning Aplon’s try right about now.
(Although apart from HG, the rest are MIA?) I think they are all busy shoving socks down their skinny jeans and posing in front of the mirror, before boarding their flights to the mother city. They be coming to CT…… we be ready.
25 Jul 2012, 19:15 pm
So let me get this straight. What we have this time around is a revitalised Bok second Row. The best black SA rugby player that ever played rugby in Kolisi and a mongrel at Flank in Deon Fourie. We all also know how the front row can hold it’s own against the best( I didn’t see the crusaders dominating them that much in Chrischurch, for some parts of the match they even had the upperhand).
25 Jul 2012, 19:16 pm
@Heavens Game-117:
Who’s GBS?
Won’t the be out of gas in the second half?
25 Jul 2012, 19:16 pm
Vok. Are they coming here?
25 Jul 2012, 19:17 pm
@Heavens Game-113: Do you think your Sharks might be a little nervous about playing in front of a full stadium on Saturday, instead of the usual 15 cheerleaders, 275 pensioners, 7 ice cream sellers, 70 family members, 10 winners from the fan club raffle and 500 school kids?
It might be intimidating.
25 Jul 2012, 19:18 pm
@Wezwp-114: Super Bok? Lol… No, Super Boks are Bismarck… Beast… Alberts… JPP.
Undoubtedly world class players…
In contrast Etsebeth is promising but wet behind the ears still…
Sharks also got one of them… His name is Wrecking Ball Coetzee
25 Jul 2012, 19:18 pm
@Dawn-121: Can you not smell the Old Spice already? And they haven’t even boarded their fecking planes in KZN.
25 Jul 2012, 19:18 pm
Wez
Bite your tongue
Best black payer ever is JPP mos
25 Jul 2012, 19:19 pm
@victoriabok-120: GBS…? Got no idea. Enlighten
25 Jul 2012, 19:19 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged by Mad Eye Productions.-122:
Yes, seeing 1000 guys with passin gaps teeth biting away at boerewors rolls for hours with no effect is a bit disconcerting
25 Jul 2012, 19:22 pm
@Transformation-115:
GBS?
Who?
25 Jul 2012, 19:23 pm
Victoriabok buddy
Don’t you have a banshee of your own
Stop obsessing
25 Jul 2012, 19:23 pm
you Guy’s must remember Jebb sinclair was more of a liability at times.
25 Jul 2012, 19:24 pm
@Dawn-121: In short, no. Just last week they did play in Reds country… And Reds country had a packed stadium probably twice the size of that tin shack at Farts in the Wind central…
Guess what…? Sharks won….
(Now please don’t put finger down throat daaahling… No matter how much you may think that your Stormer fortified self image may not be perfect
)
25 Jul 2012, 19:25 pm
And stop talking kuk about Newlands crowd
Everyone insulting our rugby crowds is sitting in some godforsaken country far far away, I see.
25 Jul 2012, 19:26 pm
@Transformation-115: While Rossi giving me fellatio…? Yeah man
25 Jul 2012, 19:27 pm
@Heavens Game-131: Sorry wench. This post actually meant for Keo’s very own bulimious Pedigreed Dog
25 Jul 2012, 19:28 pm
Ok ok wanger.
Put it back in your pants.
25 Jul 2012, 19:30 pm
Where you get thie bulimic thing from.
You always come up with such kuk!
25 Jul 2012, 19:31 pm
@Heavens Game-105:
Fourie is neither of course, but he is the best at 8 for the Stormers for now
They must be great believers in Walsh and Jonker to use him at 8 I would say
25 Jul 2012, 19:32 pm
@Dawn-125: I wasn’t refering to wing Dawn. i’m talking about a black player that can match those big Afrikaner guys in their best positions.
25 Jul 2012, 19:32 pm
@Hondo-137: Lol. Classic
25 Jul 2012, 19:34 pm
Out for now… Back later
25 Jul 2012, 19:35 pm
I said it once and i’ll say it again, i have absolute faith in the stormers coaching. Just like i have faith in Gary kirsten. People like that you don’t question because they know what they doing.Also don’t think Mr Coetzee didn’t steal a few tip fom mr Jake White. He has the blue print in his head and can execute it better with the help of proudfoot and Fleck.
25 Jul 2012, 19:36 pm
Quickie… Heard a good one earlier…
Sharks got more teeth than the entire Newlands crowd put together…
Yowzer
25 Jul 2012, 19:37 pm
@Heavens Game-113:
If the the average points advantage for the home team in Super rugby is 8 points is 10 points anyway and one add the 10 points as calculated by Tucker (for the fatigue) the advantage is in fact 20 points
Another thing you need to take into consideration is that the Stormers only “coasted” for most of the regular season and hardly ever played flat out. Remember against the Rebels … they started like a bat out of hell, then coasted, and when the visitors came within striking distance they lifted the tempo- and after Mannetjies scored his second try they coasted again.
No need to waste energy for nothing.
I also think the Sharks peaked too soon- at this top level it is cutting edge- no team can hold a “peak” for more than 2-3 weeks- so imo , the sharks will now have a dip in form- such a pity, if they only timed it a bit better
Bad times ahead for the men in black…
25 Jul 2012, 19:38 pm
@Dawn-129:
Yeah, not as agressive though, need to know if she hasn’t killed HG yet, or forcibly removed some appendages
@Dawn-132:
They do show the games and the crowd on tv (Google Setanta if you don’t believe me) in faraway countries. We even saw the Newlands crowd on tv in faraway Pretoria
They don’t all look like the fat guy on the top of this page
The Keolings gave him front teeth
25 Jul 2012, 19:38 pm
@Heavens Game-133: in your dreams….GBS be havin it…
25 Jul 2012, 19:38 pm
@Robzim-143:
farkin hard to post here- i had to retype the damn message after getting a “page is broken” for the zillionth time. Time out now.
25 Jul 2012, 19:39 pm
@Robzim-143: Oh dear…
You not really a numbers guy… are you ?
Suck that thumb, my boy…
25 Jul 2012, 19:40 pm
@victoriabok-128: GrootBlouSmile…head-Mormon-in-charge.
25 Jul 2012, 19:40 pm
@Transformation-145: What Rossi handing our to GBS too…? Farksake man, sorry for yoooo-uuu
25 Jul 2012, 19:41 pm
@Heavens Game-149: Should be Rossi handing “out”… not “our”…
Definitely not “our”…
25 Jul 2012, 19:42 pm
@Transformation-148:
Please elaborate?
Bulls supporter?
Does he like the girls?
25 Jul 2012, 19:45 pm
@Heavens Game-116: I see your Kanko and raise a Etzebeth and Bekker.
25 Jul 2012, 19:48 pm
and i throw in a Elstadt for good measure.
25 Jul 2012, 19:53 pm
@Heavens Game-131: I am not a Bulimia sufferer, but the mental image of all you post menopausal Sharks ‘daddies’ adorned with bracelets, medallions and Old Spice; sporting spanking new hair implants(courtesy of Advanced Hair Studio’s Sharks fan special), rounded off with sock stuffed skinny jeans and cowboy boots fouling up my beloved Newlands, is enough to make me puke……
^ fecking Mormon 5.
25 Jul 2012, 19:57 pm
I see HG’s wanger is now obsessed with Rossi.
Sigh.
25 Jul 2012, 19:58 pm
@Heavens Game-149: lol…GBS man-handled that banshee for real.
25 Jul 2012, 19:59 pm
No specialist 9,10 and 12 cover on the bench. Could an early injury kill off the Sharks’ chances? Any injury will be a massive reshuffle – Freddie to 9, Bosman to 10, Tim to 12, JP to 13, Odwa in at 14…
25 Jul 2012, 20:00 pm
@Dawn-155: yep, he’s been fantasizing for a while now
25 Jul 2012, 20:01 pm
@victoriabok-151: too long a story, thought you were here when pietman & crew were still around.
25 Jul 2012, 20:03 pm
Just ate a plate of frikkadel curry and rice.
No bulimia here.
25 Jul 2012, 20:08 pm
@Transformation-159:
I’ve visited the site on and off from 2005, I do remember the name Groot Blou Smile
I remember one of you warning Treehugger (if I remember correctly) the other day to stay away from him and the site he now frequents as he would try to jump her bones?
25 Jul 2012, 20:13 pm
“The referee who awarded that penalty [against Bush] came and saw us off from the airport the following day,” Williams remembers. “We had him on about not only that decision but a lot of them he made throughout the tour.
“He said to us, ‘listen boys, you can go to your home, I have to live here’
25 Jul 2012, 20:15 pm
@victoriabok-161: banshee didn’t heed advice & got GOT!
25 Jul 2012, 20:18 pm
@Transformation-163:
Nailed?
By his Groot Blou Horing?
Did she kiss and tell?
25 Jul 2012, 20:30 pm
@victoriabok-164: thats the nature of your average blue bull supporter.
25 Jul 2012, 20:31 pm
Oh boy.
25 Jul 2012, 20:44 pm
@Wezwp-165:
Yeah, still better than the average Stormer supporter, nailing the hairdresser behind the Prode floats
25 Jul 2012, 20:44 pm
@victoriabok-167:
Pride
25 Jul 2012, 20:51 pm
Watsup Wiki!!!!
25 Jul 2012, 20:55 pm
For HG
“Day after day
Alone on the hill
The man with the foolish grin
Standing perfectly still
…………
25 Jul 2012, 20:58 pm
@Dawn-170:
With his hand down his pants?
25 Jul 2012, 21:06 pm
Hello Dawn.
Glad to see you survived traffic…
25 Jul 2012, 21:17 pm
@Victoriabok…not me that was warned about GBS, unless an idiot nicked my name…..I say idiot because I posted on that site for a long time, couldn’t have been his cuppatea cos I was never hit on, actually they were just a nice bunch of rugby guys.
25 Jul 2012, 21:24 pm
Veritable gridlock tonight.
For no apparent reason!
25 Jul 2012, 21:25 pm
@Treehugger-173:
Sorry, my bad, I could just recall someone warned a lady about them
25 Jul 2012, 21:26 pm
@WP Till I Die-172: you also dodging Siyayas, Sesfikiles & Corsa Lites?
25 Jul 2012, 21:28 pm
Talking about Quantums
Saw one here once with Jason Stratham emblazoned along the sides, guns firing, it was the poster from the movie “The Transporter”
Minibus taxis. Gotta love ‘em.
25 Jul 2012, 21:28 pm
@victoriabok-164: too much said already…moving right along..
25 Jul 2012, 21:31 pm
@Dawn-177:
Statham, he’s my wife’s favourite actor
25 Jul 2012, 21:35 pm
@Transformation-178:
How well do YOU know GBS?
25 Jul 2012, 21:36 pm
You got him on the sides of your minibus taxis in Canada?
25 Jul 2012, 21:42 pm
Statham and Quantum pretty much the same thing: dangerous transporter.
25 Jul 2012, 21:48 pm
@Dawn-181:
Naah, no minubusses around only the big American made vans
As for taxis, they either drive old policecars (Ford Crown Victoria) painted yellow, or hybrids. All the new taxi’s are either Prius’s or Camry Hybrids
25 Jul 2012, 21:54 pm
@katman
Exactly! Excellent embellishment for one of the Quantums
25 Jul 2012, 21:57 pm
Quantum physics.
Nobody knows how they go.
They just do.
25 Jul 2012, 21:58 pm
are there townships or projects in victoria?
25 Jul 2012, 22:00 pm
Transporters. Strathams.
25 Jul 2012, 22:02 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-185: I know their secret. They’re regularly serviced by quantum mechanics.
25 Jul 2012, 22:05 pm
@>^..^< katman-188:
Indeed every leap year they get a new cd to hang where their rear view mirror should be.
As well as a slightly used scented pine tree to hang from their jargely decorative indicator stalk.
25 Jul 2012, 22:06 pm
Sweden 3 – Banyana x2 0 – first half…Olympics.
ladies first, we’ll get you 2nd half!!!!!!
25 Jul 2012, 22:07 pm
@Transformation-190:
Are they using the algebraic scoring system?
25 Jul 2012, 22:09 pm
I see trrransie has been a bit loose with the lips….
25 Jul 2012, 22:09 pm
@Transformation-186:
No townships, only First Nations Reserves (read Indians, the bow and arrow kind)
No projects either, it’s a government, holiday and retirement city, reminds one of Knysna
Property is expensive, not as bad as Vancouver but still not cheap
25 Jul 2012, 22:10 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-189: these must really be plush quantums…we must have a local amazing race where contestants are required to drive a taxi with a pliers where the steerring wheel should be…
25 Jul 2012, 22:11 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-189:
> a slightly used scented pine tree to hang from their jargely decorative indicator stalk.
Sounds like “The Spear”
25 Jul 2012, 22:12 pm
@Transformation-194:
Iphormulaonzi
25 Jul 2012, 22:12 pm
@victoriabok-193: geez you must miss Mzoli then
i see my fuzzybunny is here..
25 Jul 2012, 22:13 pm
@Transformation-194:
And cardboard brake discs?
25 Jul 2012, 22:14 pm
@victoriabok-195:
Nothing decorative about umkhonto.
That’s a cultural weapon.
25 Jul 2012, 22:17 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-191: lol algebraic what?
Volvos 3 – Chommiees 0
25 Jul 2012, 22:18 pm
I saw a clip about the Gugds wine festival a while back.
The first thing you saw was a giant Nederburg banner.
Those broederbonders are everywhere.
25 Jul 2012, 22:21 pm
@Transformation-197:
I’m from Tshwane
I’ll tell you what I do miss:
lamb chops with fat (here they trim the fat off)
A Ocean Basket Seafood platter (Salmon and Halibut is good, but their cold water shrimp not)
Mangoes and Litchis (picked a day ago, not shipped from Mexico weeks ago)
Warm loud friendly people
Rugby at Loftus with guys braaiing on the sidewalks next to their doublecabs playing Fokkie, Sokkie, Bokkie” music at high decibels
Dust (no dust here, too wet)
25 Jul 2012, 22:27 pm
Stormers should also have gone 5 / 2 split
Sometimes this Coetsee character p’sses me off with his staid old one track minded conservative blindness just like his one track minded stupid ignorant mentor who taught him all these rearguard thinking cowardly tricks..
This is how they should have played it..
We do NOT need that spare tire Burton Francis wasting a vital bench spot in a trench warfare game of bust the door down at the collision stakes.. WTF is Francis going to do if he comes on.. trip over his own feet worse than Hermann Bosman sipping on his Jerepigo can…!?
15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Quin Roux, 7 Rynhardt Elstadt, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Deon Fourie, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Deon Carstens, 17 Tiaan Liebenberg, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 De Kock Steenkamp, 20 Don Armand, 21 Louis Schrueder, 22 Gerhard van den Heever.
25 Jul 2012, 22:31 pm
volvos 4 -chommiees 1
we on the comeback biatcheees
25 Jul 2012, 22:35 pm
@victoriabok-202: geez boet…hang in there
25 Jul 2012, 22:40 pm
@Transformation-205:
No worries, it’s not all bad
25 Jul 2012, 22:41 pm
@victoriabok-206:
I see Nikita is an Olympian.
Cane us going to have stroke when he finds out.
Maybe two or three.
25 Jul 2012, 22:43 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-207: what code?
25 Jul 2012, 22:45 pm
@Transformation-208:
Hockey it seems.
I will be glued to the screen.
25 Jul 2012, 22:47 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther-207:
I think Keohane might have had a stroke or two there as well
25 Jul 2012, 22:54 pm
They better wrap up this minority sport competition that only a handful of expatriated colonialists play out in the far reaches of the dwindling colonies because the real world sporting extravaganza is kicking off Friday night.. the one where every world wide sporting enthusiast is riveted to the sheer exuberant mystique and guts and glory of it… yup the sporting expression of personal pride and prestige where honor and glory go hand in hand with personal triumph and personal failure.. where guts is the currency and character the legal tender
25 Jul 2012, 22:56 pm
@fitz1ella-211:
Is the Darts Championship about to start?
25 Jul 2012, 23:04 pm
imagine they make skittle sticks an Olympian sport.. they’d need to hold the Olympics over a period of approx 2 years with every two contestants squaring up for 5 whole days at a shot at advancing to the next round and then perhaps they still end up with a draw which means they never get past the group stages….
even Jukskei gets a winner and a loser ..just like badminton and table tennis and archery and fencing where individual skill is the value that determines who triumphs and who don’t..
soccer, rugby and skittle sticks simply don’t belong in the Olympics just like F1 racing don’t… leave such extravagances rooted in the colonies that gave such pastimes their credibility.
25 Jul 2012, 23:13 pm
@fitz1ella-211:
> honor and glory go hand in hand with personal triumph and personal failure.. where guts is the currency and character the legal tender
Bolt isn’t exactly a pauper
Can you still remember Basketball’s “Dream Team”
25 Jul 2012, 23:13 pm
@fitz1ella-213:
They play 2020 cricket now.
The average game finishes before you manage to jumpstart your Nissan 1400.
25 Jul 2012, 23:27 pm
@victoriabok-214: watched a warm up game on saturday US vs Argies….kevin durant, melo, lebron, westbrook. US looked to good againsy them but not convinced they can cruise past the likes of lithuania, greece, spain.
25 Jul 2012, 23:40 pm
@Transformation-216:
Do you know Steve Nash, he’s from Victoria?
25 Jul 2012, 23:47 pm
Olympics is the greatest show on earth.. puts professional team sports like rugby into the pale shade of obscurity and skittle sticks back into the archaic realms where old men would toss leather clad cork balls at willow sticks for Sunday afternoon attempt at rejuvenating juvenile entertainment
swimming, weight lifting, volley ball (not the beach variety – the real thing), athletics, boxing, judo, wrestling, diving, gymnastics, fencing, … every conceivable human sporting test and endeavor chucked onto one huge ginormous stage, where the pride of personal and national triumph reaches the pinnacle of human expression of effort and desire….. a veritable smorgasbord of human emotion and drama where puny mortals reach for the stars of their infinitesimal dreams
soccer, skittle sticks and rugby don’t belong in such a pure adrenalin environment where personal quest for national prestige squares up against the ultimate in personal tests of endeavor and individual character.
26 Jul 2012, 00:06 am
@fitz1ella-218:
I do agree with you to a certain degree- rugby, cricket and soccer don’t belong there, they have their own world cups.
btw.. beach volley ball is very much going to feature in London – they even build a special “sandpit” at the Horse Guards Parade for them to play.
Teack and field and swimming are the real deal for me while the marathon, cycling, triathlon and boxing are not far behind.
Gymnastics belong in a circus
26 Jul 2012, 00:09 am
@Robzim-219:
teack = track
26 Jul 2012, 01:11 am
@Robzim-219:
Hello Robzim
I have an old friend, he does my panel beating usually on my wife’s cars, who has a daughter competing in the Marathon, her name is Kimberley Smith, could be near the front at the start but the African girls usually have a better kick near the end, was fifth in the New York Marathon last year and could be an outside medal chance
26 Jul 2012, 04:47 am
Haha, turnstile Bosman, this should be good, the bloke can’t even stand on his own two feet, forget about his non existent tackling…… Beautiful
5 4 3 2 1 booooo….. Fizzle fizzle fizzle
26 Jul 2012, 08:18 am
@fitz1ella-218: Rugby doesn’t belong in the Olympics, because it can stand on it’s own feet as a sport. THe Olympics is an event that is thousands of years old, even before it became a regular sporting event. Why compare it to sports that are not even 500 years old?
Also your opinion of Jake White and Alistair Coetzee is noted, please also know that your opinion pales in comparison to fact.
26 Jul 2012, 08:25 am
@fitz1ella-211: Golf is going to become an Olympic event soon, you must be stoked?!
26 Jul 2012, 09:19 am
Again, are no Sharks supporters worried about what would happen if they have an injury at 9, 10 or 12 early in the game?
No specialist cover on bench which means a MASSIVE reshuffle that would disrupt them severely. Big risk from Pruimboom…
Any injury will be a massive reshuffle – Freddie to 9, Bosman to 10, Tim to 12, JP to 13, Odwa in at 14…
26 Jul 2012, 09:43 am
@Mongril-225: “Freddie to 9, Bosman to 10, Tim to 12, JP to 13, Odwa in at 14…”
No problem with that at all. Far superior to what the Stormers will have on the field if Pete’s Perfect Patented Penalty Place-kicking Pop-gun jams.
26 Jul 2012, 09:57 am
@kaksioek-226: Yawn,… when repeating something over and over it does not become true, even if it is such clever play on all them P’s (mother must be proud).
Kaksioek is an idiot, Kaksioek is an idiot, Kaksioek is an idiot, Kaksioek is an idiot, …
Sorry, I withdraw – apparently there is a relationship between repetition and truth.
26 Jul 2012, 10:09 am
@Mongril-227: A little tense are we? Ag shame. It will all be over on Saturday
26 Jul 2012, 10:53 am
As calm as a budhist monk on a secluded mountain top, I assure you.
In fact I’d even go as far as to say: As calm as Peter Grant taking a penalty kick from the touch line to win the match in the semi final (which is significantly calmer than even the monk)!
26 Jul 2012, 11:35 am
So i see that judging by the comments on this blog its a one horse race, Sharks needn’t even pitch up what with the travel legs, revolving door syndrome and the mighty Stormers pack. Perhaps the boys can do some R&R and visit the winelands.
26 Jul 2012, 11:50 am
@bananaboy-230: Nope, realistic Stormers suppoerters know this will be a close thing. As tough as they come. Anyone’s game. I’m a Stormers supporter and that is certainly me view.
26 Jul 2012, 12:37 pm
@Mongril-231: I do think the travel will come into it though. Stormers should win this one. I don’t think that home ground has as significant an advantage in SA as it does when playing away games overseas however combined with the travel it should giev Stormers a significant advantage.
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