Super Rugby preview – Semi-finals
28 Jul 2012
JON CARDINELLI and RYAN VREDE analyse the key match-ups and pick the winners at the weekend.
Both Vrede and JC are calling an away win in New Zealand and a home victory in the South African derby. The Crusaders’ should improve on what is an intimidating play-off record, and we’re sure that not many punters will disagree with that assumption.
The coastal clash at Newlands should be more tightly contested, although it is the Stormers who should win through and host the final at the same venue next week.
KEO.CO.ZA SUCCESS RATE
VREDE: 88/122 (72%)
JC: 91/122 (75%)
CHIEFS vs CRUSADERS, HAMILTON, FRIDAY 09:35
HOW CHIEFS CAN MAKE THE FINAL:
VREDE: The Chiefs were bested physically on attack and defence the last time these sides met in Hamilton, and they’ll have to improve significantly if they hope to oust the tournament’s play-off kings. They’ve selected their most abrasive pack to duel the Saders’ bruisers, who comprehensively out-muscled the Bulls’ heavies last week. There is significant beef and industry among their forwards, but they will have to produce their best, most cohesive and sustained effort in set (they were awful at the lineout when last they met) and general play to overcome their more refined counterparts. In this regard they’ll benefit from the absence of Kieran Read, who was immense in the aforementioned contest.
They must force the Saders to run from deep, or pressure their clearing kicks in a bid to force broken field situations. Pressing, accurate defence is essential. In general play, their backline’s success has been facilitated by the pack’s strength, and if the big fellas get a roll on, flyhalf Aaron Cruden has the ability to expertly conduct affairs. His eye for vulnerabilities in a defensive line is well known, but he has added impressive and intelligent distribution and a solid tactical and goal kicking game to his armoury. His defence hasn’t lacked either but he must brace for his sternest examination. Outside of him, Sonny Bill Williams will want a statement performance. His temperament is unquestionable, masterclasses in last year’s semi-final and final testament to that. Whether they are able to engineer the time and space for Williams and others on his outside will be decisive to the outcome.
JC: New Zealand writer Marc Hinton got it right when he referred to the Chiefs as Super Rugby’s ‘Moneyball Men’. There are few superstars in this squad, and the team that fronts the Crusaders will be more than just the sum of its parts. They do the basics very well, and what will help their forwards is that they’ve enjoyed a respite of two weeks while the Crusaders’ pack have just battled the Bulls. If their forwards can make an early physical statement, then Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Cruden and Sonny Bill Williams should make inroads into the Crusaders defence. I’ve always felt that Crusaders midfield is vulnerable, ever since Williams defected to the Chiefs, and Ryan Crotty and Robbie Fruean will struggle this Friday if the Chiefs’ inside backs receive front-foot ball. The Chiefs’ underrated forwards hold the key to success, as without a platform, their star-studded backline will battle to breach the visiting defence.
WHY THE CRUSADERS ARE A GOOD BET:
VREDE: Their vastly superior experience is key. The bulk of the Saders players have been through the mincer and have the mental aptitude for the big occasion, which cannot be said about the Chiefs. There is an incredible understanding of the game plan and roles within that game plan, with Dan Carter the fulcrum of their attack. He has steadily risen in influence since his return from injury and was impeccable against the Bulls in the quarters. He and Richie McCaw set the standard which others then pursue. They’ll do so once more to guide their side to the final.
JC: I have been waiting for the Crusaders to be exposed in the back row, but McCaw has surprised me with some masterful performances at No 8, and as a combination the loose trio has been effective against some of the more physical teams in the competition. Their tight five was massively influential in the demolition of the Bulls, and I suspect those five men will be at the heart of yet another play-off victory. Apart from their set-piece superiority, the Crusaders are the kings when it comes to the collisions, and to top it all, they are more than proficient in the dark arts of breakdown play. All in all, they’re a powerful and tactically astute team. I can’t see the Chiefs outplaying the Crusaders in a tactical arm-wrestle. The bad news for the Chiefs is that Carter’s radar is finally working after an early season malfunction, and I expect him to nail every kickable opportunity on offer.
VREDE’S CALL: Crusaders by 5
JC’s CALL: Crusaders by 8
Chiefs – 15 Robbie Robinson, 14 Tim Nanai-Williams, 13 Andrew Horrell, 12 Sonny Bill Williams, 11 Asaeli Tikoirotuma, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 8 Kane Thompson, 7 Tanerau Latimer, 6 Liam Messam, 5 Brodie Retallick, 4 Craig Clarke (c), 3 Ben Tameifuna, 2 Mahonri Schwalger, 1 Sona Taumalolo.
Subs: 16 Hika Elliot, 17 Ben Afeaki, 18 Michael Fitzgerald, 19 Sam Cane, 20 Brendon Leonard, 21 Jackson Willison, 22 Lelia Masaga.
Crusaders – 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Adam Whitelock, 13 Robbie Fruean, 12 Ryan Crotty, 11 Zac Guildford, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Andy Ellis, 8 Richie McCaw (c), 7 Matt Todd, 6 George Whitelock, 5 Samuel Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Ben Franks, 2 Corey Flynn, 1 Wyatt Crockett.
Subs: 16 Quentin MacDonald, 17 Owen Franks, 18 Tom Donnelly, 19 Luke Whitelock, 20 Willi Heinz, 21 Tom Taylor, 22 Sean Maitland.
STORMERS vs SHARKS, CAPE TOWN, SATURDAY 17:05
HOW THE STORMERS CAN WIN:
VREDE: Everything rests on their kick-chase tactics and pressure defence. When allowed to settle into their groove, the Stormers have systematically and clinically suffocated their opponents, pinning them in their territory and forcing them to take risks. From there they’ve forced infringements and consistently profited from Peter Grant’s goal-kicking accuracy (30/31 penalties).
In these sides’ previous meetings this season, the Stormers failed to impose their will. This was primarily due to being forced to execute their game plan without a platform to do so, given the Sharks’ immense physicality in defence. Their primary strike runners must front against a defensive unit with the personnel to bully them if their confidence is fuelled. The Stormers haven’t exhibited the capacity to transition between approaches which makes it essential that their preferred method is on point. They also need to overcome what appears to be a propensity for mental freezes in knockout matches in front of their home supporters. They must be favourites, particularly since the Sharks have had a taxing travel schedule and demanding clash with the Reds. A fold, like the one against the Crusaders at this stage last year, would have serious implications for their psyche in knockout matches going forward.
JC: I’ve said it more than once over the past couple of weeks, and I’ll say it again; it’s incredible that the Stormers have come this far given the injury setbacks they’ve suffered over the course of the season. But that statement should not be misread as an excuse or a precursor to another play-off loss. The Stormers have coped admirably and their second- and third-choice players have made a stunning impact. What’s been particularly impressive about this side is the way that they have stuck to the plan, and managed to guts out some ugly wins. It will surely stand them in good stead for what will be another brutally physical encounter, and immense battle of wills. In the black and white corner is a side stacked with Springboks, but the Stormers have the more settled unit that has proven itself capable of outbullying even the most hard-nosed teams. Expect more rolling mauls and a collective refusal to concede to a defensive inch.
They should be able to hold their own at the collisions, and it is that 9-10-12 combination that should give them a much needed edge. Grant may not boast the greatest line-kicking game, but his temperament in front of goal has allowed the Stormers to win some tight clashes, and one that stands out was the 15-12 victory over the Sharks at Newlands this year. Jean de Villiers has a big responsibility not only as a leader, but as a midfielder capable of winning the collisions in midfield. It would have been a more interesting battle had Frans Steyn been eligible for this clash, but Meyer Bosman is short on confidence, and has been dominated by De Villiers in previous clashes. In recent years, De Villiers has proven himself to be a big-match player, and I expect he will take his game to another level this Saturday.
WHY THE SHARKS SHOULDN’T BE DISCOUNTED:
VREDE: They are one of the few teams with the tactical intelligence, calibre of players and defensive punch and discipline to beat the Stormers. They showed this at Newlands early in the campaign (a 15-12 defeat) and more recently in their 25-20 victory at Kings Park in May. Their response to the Stormers’ barrage of kicks was superb, which ensured they weren’t trapped deep in their territory for extended periods.
Furthermore, they were devastating with ball in hand, consistently crossing the gainline, which was central to their ability to score three tries. The responsibility for unsettling the Stormers’ defensive line in this manner once more will rest primarily with Willem Alberts, Bismarck du Plessis, Beast Mtawarira and Marcell Coetzee. Their halfback pair of Charl McLeod and Frederic Michalak have shown themselves to be adept at playing for territory, taking on the line, or setting the back division in motion – giving the Sharks an air of unpredictability. They’ll miss Pat Lambie and Paul Jordaan though, the duo possessing a skills range their deputies can’t boast. Still, they do have the white-hot JP Pietersen, who will be a threat if offered space and time to plot their demise.
JC: Nobody should discount the draining effects of travel. Taking this into account, the Sharks should look to replicate their most recent performance in Brisbane, and pile on the points in the first half. They will tire in the second stanza, and if the scoreline is still tight at that stage, the Stormers will be favourites to win. Indeed, the Stormers aren’t a side that’s enjoyed a great deal of success at chasing the game. If they’re well behind at half-time, they will be forced to change their game plan and play more expansively in an attempt to narrow the gap, and this will suit the Sharks. As seen last week, the Sharks are the masters in using turnover ball to score points. So if the Sharks enjoy a good first half, it will spell trouble for the Stormers.
Their scrum has been one of the best in the tournament, and will be favourites in this particular contest. They will want to use this platform to play the game at a lively tempo, and they certainly have the personnel to breach even the best defence. How the Stormers handle the surge after a Sharks scrum will be critical. Their defence has been excellent to date, but they must stall the Sharks’ momentum early in the movement. The Sharks will also be mindful of a tactic that has fractured the Stormers in the past: the tactical kick. A probe, grubber or even a high bomb could create scoring opportunities. It’s a big ask of Charl McLeod, who isn’t the most accurate kicker in the competition, and again the Sharks would have preferred to have had Steyn on board for this clash. But in Michalak, they have a wily international campaigner, and he represents the biggest danger and will ask the most questions of what is an impressive but not unbeatable Stormers defence.
VREDE’S CALL: Stormers by 7
JC’s CALL: Stormers by 6
Stormers – 15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Deon Fourie, 7 Rynhardt Elstadt, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Deon Carstens, 17 Frans Malherbe, 18 De Kock Steenkamp, 19 Don Armand, 20 Louis Schrueder, 21 Burton Francis, 22 Gerhard van den Heever.
Sharks – 15 Louis Ludik, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Tim Whitehead, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Keegan Daniel (c), 5 Anton Bresler, 4 Willem Alberts, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Steven Sykes, 19 Jean Deysel, 20 Jacques Botes, 21 Odwa Ndungane, 22 Riaan Viljoen.
196 Comments
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27 Jul 2012, 07:00 am
@Te Rangatira-150:
Just posted on the other side about the odds TR, I don’t get it. I think it will be a tight affair with home ground swinging it towards the Chiefs. I understand the Chiefs had a horrid run in their final few games but the last two the ref had a massive impact. Game against the Saders should have been a draw at the very least so I think they are underestimated.
I was listening to the boys talking on the Rugby Club last night and they looked very focussed and said all the right things. I put my few pennies on the Chiefs to win by 8.
27 Jul 2012, 07:01 am
Chiefs for me Te Rangi, or at least I hope so, they deserve it!
27 Jul 2012, 07:03 am
@Slartibartfast-149:
Seems like the weather is good in CT as well…
Good morning chaps!!!
27 Jul 2012, 07:03 am
@Slartibartfast-151:
I hope the Chiefs win! A trip to Newlands will be great!
27 Jul 2012, 07:05 am
@Slartibartfast-151:
Yep. Money well spent. Chiefs Victory is on the cards.
@whatever-152:
Yep again, want to see that Crusaders frontrow crushed and debilitated.
27 Jul 2012, 07:08 am
@Te Rangatira-155:
Kia ora! Yes a Chiefs win would be great Te Ranga
27 Jul 2012, 07:11 am
@Gumboots-156:
Kia ora Boots, a Chiefs win tonight will do wonders for the competition as a whole, need some new blood.
27 Jul 2012, 07:19 am
The puzzle to break was whom did SARU instruct Joubert to get to win?
Carter knows too well how to win at Newlands, the physicality of the PIs dominated Chiefs might be far too much for the Stormers to handle, think SBW vs De Jongh
The wagers are in line with the odd makers’ choice: the Chiefs by 7 points
27 Jul 2012, 07:23 am
@Te Rangatira-157:
some new blood to take out the comp, be it Chiefs,Stormers or Sharks……sharing the love.
27 Jul 2012, 07:38 am
@Te Rangatira-159:
I go with that, different Chiefs and Stormers teams from prior years. I had the Chiefs as overall winners but not if they travl to cApe Town.
27 Jul 2012, 07:38 am
Hondo, how is the physicality of “PI’s” any different to anyone else ?
27 Jul 2012, 08:02 am
Chiefs and Sharks.
Chiefs won the 1st game against Saders and lost the last one due to a SBW brainfart.
Sharks lost with a depleted team in CT by a late Popgun penalty, and comprehensively outplayed them in Dbn, albeit a fairly depleted Stormers team as well.
SInce then the Sharks have showed great form and if they play the way they did against the Reds it should be theirs.
Will they be able to get for a final in NZ? May be a bridge too far but a tremendous achievement if they do.
27 Jul 2012, 08:03 am
@whatever-161: PI vs PDI ?
27 Jul 2012, 08:06 am
Saders by 8 – ready for some kick a*s*s forward domination …. SBW who ?
27 Jul 2012, 08:18 am
@trupisero-162:
Well, you might be right , but according to Ross Tucker the Sharks will have to be 8- 10 points better than the Stormers on Saturday in order to beat them (hometown and travel) . If they are therefore 7 points better it will not be enough as they will start with a 8-10 points “defecit”.
IMO the Stormers are about 2 points better than the Sharks in general and if I add Ross’s 8-10 points and build in a safety factor of say 30% I reckon the Stormers will win by 7.
It’s so straight forward…. let’s get the champagne
27 Jul 2012, 08:21 am
@whatever-161:
It called ‘coconut tackles’
ever heard of it?
27 Jul 2012, 08:22 am
@Robzim-165:
As far as the other match is concerned the Chiefs will only have a head start of 5 points (only hometown advantage as travel does not play a role) but as I reckon the Saders are about 10 points better than them on any given day (like today) the saders should win this match by about 5.
27 Jul 2012, 08:24 am
@Robzim-165: hahahahaha……its going to be war out there, who will be left standing after 80 mins (or even longer)?
Sharks need to be ahead by 8-10 at the break methinks. Clearly going for a forward dominated battle. Lets hope the penalty count is somewhat less than against the Reds.
27 Jul 2012, 08:25 am
@trupisero-162:
Sharks travelled all the way from Brisbane, Stormers going to bore them to sleep and then score a surprise try
Stormers by 7.
27 Jul 2012, 08:26 am
anyone but that filthy team of cheap shot cheats.
27 Jul 2012, 08:27 am
OK I admit, I made up the bit about the Stormers scoring a try, they will win by 2 penalties…
27 Jul 2012, 08:27 am
The Stormers’ only chance of beating any team is to bore them to death. All hail the log-topping Zzzz factor.
27 Jul 2012, 08:29 am
@wait for it, wait for it…-170:
Err you will have to be more specific…
27 Jul 2012, 08:29 am
@Slartibartfast-171: U on form again today, I see!
27 Jul 2012, 08:31 am
@BrumbiesBoy-174:
Only the truth from me
27 Jul 2012, 08:40 am
@kaksioek-172:
i have actually found it quite engaging and very compelling watching the stormers this season. most of their games have been helluva arm wrestles with scorelines that could’ve gone either way for the teams involved.
yes, a few more tries would make it that much better but this is more than compensated for by the looming question of whether their defense will hold the opposition out as the clock ticks away and the teams under siege just out from their try line.
think battle of stalingrad type grinding no inch surrendered struggles. this is just as entertaining as breath taking blitzkrieg length of the field breakout assaults.
27 Jul 2012, 08:41 am
@Slartibartfast-173:
hehe
you’re kidding, right?
27 Jul 2012, 08:43 am
just like bulls fans of the past, and boks fans who had to endure similar taunts after 2007 – I call it winning rugby. it is the losing fans who call it boring rugby. and i find winning more attractive and a lot less boring than losing personally. perhaps if stormers had a squad like the sharks they could afford to play a little more expansively. you gotta do the best with what you have got!
has any team ever had an 87% success rate after pool phase? 14 out of 16. that’s not boring in my opinion.
27 Jul 2012, 08:45 am
i’m worried about the mental state
of my friend grant10 if the stormers choke tomorrow and i reckon he’s not the only one who i need to be concerned about, a lot of the kaapies are freaked out about tomorrow hehehe…
27 Jul 2012, 08:48 am
F*&^%$#!?!! typing to fast…with one finger on each hand?! You kidding right? Time to pay up your account keo, this is going down the drain very quickly…
27 Jul 2012, 08:49 am
@wait for it, wait for it…-177:
Was saying that I was just puller yer socks….
27 Jul 2012, 08:52 am
@Slartibartfast-181:
hehehe
oh i see
their reputations do, after all, precede them.
27 Jul 2012, 08:56 am
@wait for it, wait for it…-182:
Yip, on par with the ‘defencive’ blocking they set up at rucks and mauls…
27 Jul 2012, 09:08 am
@Transformation-179:
Don’t worry.
I’m sure Just Buggery will give him a consolation rub down.
Goodnight nurse.
27 Jul 2012, 09:20 am
@nama1-102:
George to Port Alfred is around 470km, nama. Nice drive on the N2, then turning off onto the R72 passing through Alexandria and Kenton-on-Sea. Good roads.
Port Alfred to Port St Johns is the stretch going through Transkei, as rangerman says, rather do this during the daytime due to the number of livestock. R72 to East London, then back onto the N2, into Transkei, at Umtata you take the R61 towards Port St Johns. This is a very pretty stretch, beautiful green rolling hills.
Port St Johns to Durban is about 360km, via the R61 and later back onto the N2.
27 Jul 2012, 10:13 am
Its amazing how statistics and history are abused to forward someone’s subjective viewpoint.
We hear about tries scored constantly yet the Stormers have the best win record and are unbeaten at home.
We are told that the Sharks have a better win record in semis yet they have never won a Super Rugby semi away from home.
Steve Walsh is in the Stormer’s pocket yet two years ago (not sure of the updated stats), the stormers had a record of one victory from 8 with Steve Walsh as a ref. He was the most hated referee for Newlands locals.
After the Stormers-Bulls game this year Craig Joubert hated the Bulls and lover the Stormers. I seem to remember a final a few years ago in Soweto where Craig Joubert was enemy number one down south. I don’t think any, but the most biased supporter would say he lost the Stormers the game, but he was no fan favourite by the end of the final whistle.
I may be a sometimeneutral, but I will admit that this weekend I am a Stormer to the core. It will be an epic clash, probably low scoring, but my heart and head say Stormers by a few points.
Fatigue, Stormers played valiantly against the Crusaders a few years back after doing a similar trip as the Sharks two weeks in a row. We were close and in it for the first 60, but with 20 minutes to go the last of the gas ran out.
The Sharks game rests primarily, in my opinion, on two factors. Whether they can bash the Stormers up front and build momentum and whether Michelak carries on playing as well as he has. This is semi rugby and the Stormers won’t hold back, that plus fatigue and the inevitability that Michelak won’t perform. This is a guy that hasn’t had more than three great games in a row in his life, he is now up to four already. Just don’t see him performing again especially with the pressure that a full house Newlands will bring. 9 from 9 at the end of the final whistle this week.
28 Jul 2012, 09:08 am
Many (not all but many) Sharks fans have told the Stormers fans week after week that the Stormers are useless. At the beginning of the season many (not all but many) Sharks fans told them that the Sharks would win the Super Trophy this year and that the Stormers would prop up the SA conference even the Lions would be better they told them. Many (not all but many) Sharks fans told them the Sharks were the best travelling team with the best travelling record and posted endless stats to prove their point that they had won more away games than the any other SA team. Even before the Sharks qualified many (not all but many) Sharks fans said the Sharks would qualify and go on to win the trophy and that the Stormers would lose their first play off.
The Sharks now are proving their fans right and they are the momentum team and have more Springboks than an other SA team and are playing brilliant allround rugby by contrast Stormers are lucky to be in the playoffs.
So what do many (not all but many) of the Sharks fans do and say? They suddenly get all coy and shy and ‘humble’ and ‘reasonable’ and say they are the underdogs? How disappointingly hypocritical. Where is the bravado they have beaten their chests with all season? If they meant what they have said during the season they can not possibly be being honest now.
Then you get this genius WoodenSpoon one of the most windgat of the Sharks fans who when some Stormers fans acknowledge the mountain the Stormers have to climb today gets angry with said fans, and then when some fans suggest in their own opinions that the Stormers will win it this WoodenSpoon gets angry at them for that too.
Seems this whining whinging WoodenSpoon character is so stressed and angst ridden and uptight and nervous that his pea brain is pinging around inside his cranium with the random instability of a superball bouncing in a urinal. This keyboard warrior is handling the pressure of playoff rugby with all the aplomb of a stutterer giving a speech to a group of ADD children.
To all the decent Sharks and Stormers fans on Keo.co.za this is your day may the best team on the day win. May the winning and losing fans accept the result with equal measures of goodsportmanship and dignity.
28 Jul 2012, 09:41 am
@SometimeNeutral-186: I stopped reading your long post at the 3rd sentence, because you lost all credibility by being highly inaccurate.
“We are told that the Sharks have a better win record in semis yet they have never won a Super Rugby semi away from home.”
WRONG!
And *whooooosh* just like that goes your entire credibility. No need to read the rest of your biased dribble.
28 Jul 2012, 09:45 am
“sometimeneutral” and “dirty harry” clearly the same biased and “not so neutral” bitter stompie.
Love how the Sharks carve a swathe of multinics through the Cape!
28 Jul 2012, 10:29 am
@wooden spoon-189:
Well I notice you did not question the veracity of my comments about you WoodenSpoon but then again it is impossible to deny the truth. You really are a feeble minded little man are you not. You need to get meds because paranoia is an ugly illness and leads to schizophrenic tendencies if you keep seeing agents and ‘multinics’ behind every keyboard you are such a joke your standard response when debated into a corner is ‘multinics’ like that excuses your stupidity.
There is a song by a band called Dope they wrote this for you. I see others posting songs so sing then when looking in the mirror in your ballet classes.
You say I’m paranoid
Isn’t that what you said
You say it’s my imagination
And I’m fucked in the head
P-p-p-paranoid
And it’s easy to see
Well is it really paranoia
Or is somebody after me
Is this going down
Or is it
Parafuckinnoia driving me insane
Parafuckinnoia ripping up my brain
Is it parafuckinnoia making me believe
It’s either parafuckinnoia
Or somebody’s after me
P-p-p-paranoid
And don’t believe what you hear
You say I’ve miscommunicated
And it’s all in the clear
Like a Polaroid
And it’s so easy to see
Well is it really paranoia
Or is somebody after me
Am I freaking out
Is this going down
Or is it
Parafuckinnoia driving me insane
Parafuckinnoia ripping up my brain
Is it parafuckinnoia making me believe
It’s either parafuckinnoia
Or somebody’s after me
Parafuckinnoia driving me insane
Parafuckinnoia ripping up my brain
Is it parafuckinnoia making me believe
It’s either parafuckinnoia
Or somebody’s after me
Parafuckinnoia driving me insane
Parafuckinnoia ripping up my brain
Is it parafuckinnoia making me believe
It’s either parafuckinnoia
Or somebody’s after me
Parafuckinnoia
Parafuckinnoia
Somebody’s after me
Parafuckinnoia
It’s either parafuckinnoia
Or somebody’s after me
I am off to bed to get up in time for the game but just remember my feeble minded pet psycho – I am watching you. So maybe you are not so paranoid after all.
:mockingsmileyfuckinface:
28 Jul 2012, 10:32 am
Whoops did I just uncover the mental issues?
Weirdo alert!
28 Jul 2012, 12:02 pm
Dirty Harry, lol what nonsense. Say howzit to your mother for me.
28 Jul 2012, 13:23 pm
Eeish!
28 Jul 2012, 13:27 pm
STORMERS by 10
28 Jul 2012, 22:45 pm
What pathetic predictions again by the keo team. Couldn’t even pick one finals team.
30 Jul 2012, 11:32 am
@nama1-51:
what a tonsil
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