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		<title>By: ufo</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2201332</link>
		<dc:creator>ufo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 06:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay KEO/Mark…

Yesterday you pointedly ignored several requests that you address the issue of people using the identities or nics to impersonate other posters to post inflammatory and derogatory comments which not only kick the hornet’s nest but make life on the site pretty uncomfortable for the real owner of the abused identity.

What happened to the old system of posting the original sign-on nic with whatever new nic is used?
Why was it changed?
It seems it was obviously a conscious decision your part.

Your silence and Nikita’s comment the other day about it being a democracy… whatever that means… leaves little room but to accept the conspiracy theorists that this change was a management decision to empower the trouble-makers in an effort to drive up your decreasing monthly hits. 

Some have speculated that your staff members are in fact guilty of this ‘crime’. I dismissed this as passing the buck, but perhaps they have a point after all.

There is also the problem of people registering several nics about which I appreciate there is little you can do but that is not half as annoying as people using the current identities of current members to stir up controversy. 

This is not right or fair or ‘democratic’. In real life democracies it is illegal to impersonate anyone else. Surely the most basic of your responsibilities is to protect the identities/nics/personas of your members.

What a pity that you have decided to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I have always defended the fact that you have allowed full and robust debate with little censorship but this new low (even for you) low-road approach you seem to have adopted (in the absence of any comment or effort to sort the problem by you) leave me very disappointed in the site in general and you in particular.

This approach may attract hits in the short-term but you are underestimating the ill-feeling it is causing and you will lose hits and members in the long-term.

It seems you do not appreciate that while you created this site and facilitate the discussion on it… it is the many members who participate upon it that MAKE the site what it is.

I signed up with your site when you started it but I am no longer willing to tolerate the implied arrogance your position suggests, or participate any longer in this farce, so will vote with my feet. I will post this comment several times to ensure you can’t say you did not see it and then withdraw from the site. I may reconsider if and when such time as you have addressed the issue and returned the posting protocol to what it used to be with someone’s original identity always being visible to all. I know I am only one person and you may well ridicule my stance but hey… so what.

Cheers to all the decent people on this site, many of whom are very knowledgeable, intelligent, humourous and entertaining. I would suggest that everyone who disagrees with KEO’s low-life approach also leave the site but obviously you must all do what you feel is right for you.

Cheers

ufo…

over and out…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay KEO/Mark…</p>
<p>Yesterday you pointedly ignored several requests that you address the issue of people using the identities or nics to impersonate other posters to post inflammatory and derogatory comments which not only kick the hornet’s nest but make life on the site pretty uncomfortable for the real owner of the abused identity.</p>
<p>What happened to the old system of posting the original sign-on nic with whatever new nic is used?<br />
Why was it changed?<br />
It seems it was obviously a conscious decision your part.</p>
<p>Your silence and Nikita’s comment the other day about it being a democracy… whatever that means… leaves little room but to accept the conspiracy theorists that this change was a management decision to empower the trouble-makers in an effort to drive up your decreasing monthly hits. </p>
<p>Some have speculated that your staff members are in fact guilty of this ‘crime’. I dismissed this as passing the buck, but perhaps they have a point after all.</p>
<p>There is also the problem of people registering several nics about which I appreciate there is little you can do but that is not half as annoying as people using the current identities of current members to stir up controversy. </p>
<p>This is not right or fair or ‘democratic’. In real life democracies it is illegal to impersonate anyone else. Surely the most basic of your responsibilities is to protect the identities/nics/personas of your members.</p>
<p>What a pity that you have decided to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I have always defended the fact that you have allowed full and robust debate with little censorship but this new low (even for you) low-road approach you seem to have adopted (in the absence of any comment or effort to sort the problem by you) leave me very disappointed in the site in general and you in particular.</p>
<p>This approach may attract hits in the short-term but you are underestimating the ill-feeling it is causing and you will lose hits and members in the long-term.</p>
<p>It seems you do not appreciate that while you created this site and facilitate the discussion on it… it is the many members who participate upon it that MAKE the site what it is.</p>
<p>I signed up with your site when you started it but I am no longer willing to tolerate the implied arrogance your position suggests, or participate any longer in this farce, so will vote with my feet. I will post this comment several times to ensure you can’t say you did not see it and then withdraw from the site. I may reconsider if and when such time as you have addressed the issue and returned the posting protocol to what it used to be with someone’s original identity always being visible to all. I know I am only one person and you may well ridicule my stance but hey… so what.</p>
<p>Cheers to all the decent people on this site, many of whom are very knowledgeable, intelligent, humourous and entertaining. I would suggest that everyone who disagrees with KEO’s low-life approach also leave the site but obviously you must all do what you feel is right for you.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>ufo…</p>
<p>over and out…</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2201065</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back, betsen, these are all great pigmies

dalton cockerill were mofo aggro pigmies

sometimes a pigmy can be a handful - fourie is best hooker after bismark for his sheer agression and ballcarrying nit to mention mobility and fetching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back, betsen, these are all great pigmies</p>
<p>dalton cockerill were mofo aggro pigmies</p>
<p>sometimes a pigmy can be a handful &#8211; fourie is best hooker after bismark for his sheer agression and ballcarrying nit to mention mobility and fetching.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2201044</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daniel is a pigmy but potentially a v good pigmy - brussow is also a pigmy but sometimes pigmys are too good too leave out - besides u can chick them a moerse long way to catch tge lineout ball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel is a pigmy but potentially a v good pigmy &#8211; brussow is also a pigmy but sometimes pigmys are too good too leave out &#8211; besides u can chick them a moerse long way to catch tge lineout ball.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2201042</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katman and trupi got the backrow spot-on

I see el presidente SL is making some controversial non-sharks calls too - Strauss should def be ahead of potgieter spot on

but I hope heyneke ain&#039;t sidelining kolisi - that bugger could be a revelation if motivated correctly - can meyer only motivate the boertjies or the Bantu buggers mos ook?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katman and trupi got the backrow spot-on</p>
<p>I see el presidente SL is making some controversial non-sharks calls too &#8211; Strauss should def be ahead of potgieter spot on</p>
<p>but I hope heyneke ain&#8217;t sidelining kolisi &#8211; that bugger could be a revelation if motivated correctly &#8211; can meyer only motivate the boertjies or the Bantu buggers mos ook?</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200814</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200791&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David-436&lt;/a&gt;: I rate him as well but he is injured. Two tall guys at 7/8 with him at 6]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200791" rel="nofollow">David-436</a>: I rate him as well but he is injured. Two tall guys at 7/8 with him at 6</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200810</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200737&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-435&lt;/a&gt;: Flip and Eben compete, Bekker and Kruger,

We are thin on locks at moment, Bresler from Sharks looks OK , in the group there&#039;s no one]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200737" rel="nofollow">nama1-435</a>: Flip and Eben compete, Bekker and Kruger,</p>
<p>We are thin on locks at moment, Bresler from Sharks looks OK , in the group there&#8217;s no one</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200791</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200729&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;capebull-433&lt;/a&gt;: 
No, it isn&#039;t. I&#039;d go with Brussouw at 6.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200729" rel="nofollow">capebull-433</a>:<br />
No, it isn&#8217;t. I&#8217;d go with Brussouw at 6.</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200737</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200726&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;capebull-432&lt;/a&gt;: 
...and who then, will take Bekkers place?

Flip vd Merwe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200726" rel="nofollow">capebull-432</a>:<br />
&#8230;and who then, will take Bekkers place?</p>
<p>Flip vd Merwe?</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200734</link>
		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brigadier @ 420. I thought he played very well against England.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brigadier @ 420. I thought he played very well against England.</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200729</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200706&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David-427&lt;/a&gt;: No thats yours , you need speed as well]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200706" rel="nofollow">David-427</a>: No thats yours , you need speed as well</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200726</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200649&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-406&lt;/a&gt;: The only reason why I have doubts of your team is cause both Bekker and Alberts will have to be replaced after 50min , with Eben also a worry injured, you could find yourself short- Keegan 

Apart from that Kruger could work at 7, but then why not pick Kruger at lock  and fire Bankie untill he takes all the ball he should and get fit for 80min]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200649" rel="nofollow">nama1-406</a>: The only reason why I have doubts of your team is cause both Bekker and Alberts will have to be replaced after 50min , with Eben also a worry injured, you could find yourself short- Keegan </p>
<p>Apart from that Kruger could work at 7, but then why not pick Kruger at lock  and fire Bankie untill he takes all the ball he should and get fit for 80min</p>
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		<title>By: bokfan1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200720</link>
		<dc:creator>bokfan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200698&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sharks_lover-423&lt;/a&gt;: I hear you, but remember Test rugby is not Super Rugby]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200698" rel="nofollow">sharks_lover-423</a>: I hear you, but remember Test rugby is not Super Rugby</p>
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		<title>By: bokfan1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200717</link>
		<dc:creator>bokfan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200685&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brigadier Van Zyl-415&lt;/a&gt;: I think everyone here would agree that Spies on form is awesome. But he has not shown form in a Bok jersey in a loooong time. It is a backhand compliment to the player that we expect so much from him.

The fact that he has still played for so long speaks of the faith shown in him and the time he has been given to reach his potential.
I feel it is similar to the case with Habana - every time he scores a try, there are articles and exclamations of &quot;Bryan&#039;s back!&quot; because we WANT him to be back.
But he has not shown that form again, and as such should not be a Bok at the moment.

And I agree we need big ball carrying boys.

Possibly in 2009, by the time we played the ABs and theyd watched the Lions series, the opposition focused so much on Brussow, and this gave Spies more space to operate in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200685" rel="nofollow">Brigadier Van Zyl-415</a>: I think everyone here would agree that Spies on form is awesome. But he has not shown form in a Bok jersey in a loooong time. It is a backhand compliment to the player that we expect so much from him.</p>
<p>The fact that he has still played for so long speaks of the faith shown in him and the time he has been given to reach his potential.<br />
I feel it is similar to the case with Habana &#8211; every time he scores a try, there are articles and exclamations of &#8220;Bryan&#8217;s back!&#8221; because we WANT him to be back.<br />
But he has not shown that form again, and as such should not be a Bok at the moment.</p>
<p>And I agree we need big ball carrying boys.</p>
<p>Possibly in 2009, by the time we played the ABs and theyd watched the Lions series, the opposition focused so much on Brussow, and this gave Spies more space to operate in?</p>
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		<title>By: wnbb</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200713</link>
		<dc:creator>wnbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys can call Daniel a pigmy,but he is a bloody great pigmy.I hope Heyneke gives him a chance on Saturday .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys can call Daniel a pigmy,but he is a bloody great pigmy.I hope Heyneke gives him a chance on Saturday .</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200711</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200680&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sharks_lover-413&lt;/a&gt;: 
You did not have a problem with the inexperience of the pack when we played against England, did you?

Two locks on debut. A flank on debut with the other flank less than 10 test matches. Chuck in an 8th man who has been out of form for 3-5 years now.

You did not complain much back then. Why all of a sardientjie does it bother you now. 

If you look closely, everybody has Alberts at 8.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200680" rel="nofollow">sharks_lover-413</a>:<br />
You did not have a problem with the inexperience of the pack when we played against England, did you?</p>
<p>Two locks on debut. A flank on debut with the other flank less than 10 test matches. Chuck in an 8th man who has been out of form for 3-5 years now.</p>
<p>You did not complain much back then. Why all of a sardientjie does it bother you now. </p>
<p>If you look closely, everybody has Alberts at 8.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200706</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200698&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sharks_lover-423&lt;/a&gt;: 
I agree. It&#039;s HM who insists on size. I reckon his fantasy trio would be 8 Duane, 7 Alberts, 6 Coetzee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200698" rel="nofollow">sharks_lover-423</a>:<br />
I agree. It&#8217;s HM who insists on size. I reckon his fantasy trio would be 8 Duane, 7 Alberts, 6 Coetzee.</p>
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		<title>By: sharks_lover</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200704</link>
		<dc:creator>sharks_lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200696&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David-422&lt;/a&gt;: DAvid, like i said many posts ago, YOU can shitf the loose forwards around during the match, depending on the needs, is it attacking ball, or defensive?? etc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200696" rel="nofollow">David-422</a>: DAvid, like i said many posts ago, YOU can shitf the loose forwards around during the match, depending on the needs, is it attacking ball, or defensive?? etc</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200703</link>
		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katman @ 301 Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katman @ 301 Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: sharks_lover</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/08/14/spies-blow-for-boks/#comment-2200702</link>
		<dc:creator>sharks_lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200696&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David-422&lt;/a&gt;: DAvid, MArcel was 8thman all his life till this year when Kanko, Alberts and Deysel were injured, So because of his raw young power and skills they moved him to 7]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200696" rel="nofollow">David-422</a>: DAvid, MArcel was 8thman all his life till this year when Kanko, Alberts and Deysel were injured, So because of his raw young power and skills they moved him to 7</p>
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		<title>By: sharks_lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharks_lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2200689&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David-417&lt;/a&gt;: If DAniel AND  Kolisi is ther whats the point of them being called up??

These 2 have been brilliant all season against whatever the rest of SA, KIwi or Aussies has had to offer, Sorry boet We all going over the top here with this whole size thing, Sharks actually was most succesful this season when they used their smallest loose trio, reason being better skill sets, and even though they not these huge gorrillas they pack far abaover their weight, same with Kolisi, good whole season .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2200689" rel="nofollow">David-417</a>: If DAniel AND  Kolisi is ther whats the point of them being called up??</p>
<p>These 2 have been brilliant all season against whatever the rest of SA, KIwi or Aussies has had to offer, Sorry boet We all going over the top here with this whole size thing, Sharks actually was most succesful this season when they used their smallest loose trio, reason being better skill sets, and even though they not these huge gorrillas they pack far abaover their weight, same with Kolisi, good whole season .</p>
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