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By: rangerman

rangerman — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:37:37 +0000

@Robzim-46: tim swiel sure played nicely when our u21's beat yours at newlands this week. naaice.

By: xtremebull

xtremebull — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:35:06 +0000

@ct shark 45- keegan is very underated as a player and 4 him 2 b captain of the national side? I reckon he have 2 establish himself as a certain starter for the boks…. Certain starters in they positions is beast, bissie, alberts, burger(jip I believe heineke has high praises for him) fsteyn and then jp… I don’t know how old schallkie is but it is between him and burger… And that is straight to rwc 2015…. I’d love 4 adriaan strauss 2b in the mix for captain 2… But he need 2 b a certain starter first… In the general group we have plenty captain material but only few of them is starters… I hope heineke will choose his long term captain at the eoyt with the future warriors building up to 2015… Come hell or high waters we need an imminent change sooner rather then later….

By: CT Shark

CT Shark — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:03:11 +0000

@Robzim-46: Been keeping an eye on Tim Swiel.....he looks really good....but as one of the other blogger so rightly pointed out...the Currie Cup and Super15 are littered with age group hero's who couldn't make the step up to senior rugby. I watch with anticipation and hope for Tim Swiel.....

By: Robzim

Robzim — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:01:29 +0000

@CT Shark-44: In Tim Swiel the WP rugby has a flyhalf who already makes WillieLe Roux look like a novice. Lets see how that one turns out... and hold thumbs they don't destroy his attacking flair.

By: CT Shark

CT Shark — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:01:12 +0000

@xtremebull-41: Captain and hooker are some difficult questions…..and I don’t have answers for ya.

I’ve not seen a single youngster in the hooker berth that’s been any inspiration so far…..and those playing Super12 or Currie Cup are just decent….nothing more. Burden does seem to have some spark to him…..but he’s already 27…..so not one really for the future.

As for captain…..I’m very interested to see how Keegan Daniel performs today. If he comes through with flying colors could he take over the mantle of Bok captain? He’s certainly worn it well and led by example for the Sharks……can he do the same for the Boks?

Who knows…..but we’ll find out soon enough……can’t wait!!! Cannot!!!

By: CT Shark

CT Shark — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:53:57 +0000

@Transformation-43: So agree with you….but then WP Rugby has never been known for anything vaguely relating to intelligence. Arrogance…..absolutely…..intelligence…..never! lol

However……with the putrid coaching of AC & Fleckie…..how long would it take WP to turn Willie into just another one dimensional defensive moron…..and destroy all his attacking flair and capabilities?

By: Transformation

Transformation — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:41:45 +0000

@CT Shark-35: willie le roux played for the Stormers "franchise partners" Boland last year @ fullback & flyhalf, scored 23 tries & was nominated for First Div player of the year, yet AC & co ignored him completely! imo will is much better than anything they have @ the Stormers - van aswegen, francis etc. @bryce: willie le roux was @ the top of the "missed tackle" stats, you of all people should know that!

By: bryce_in_oz

bryce_in_oz — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:34:39 +0000

@xtremebull-41:

PSD is more a lock. as is Eben… you’ve got me on hooker as I have not seen anyone yet in that U20 team (but BDP and Strauss are still young)… and yes on captain although the U20 Bok captain showed huge promise in every respect…

http://www.ruggaworld.com/2012/08/18/australia-v-all-blacks-2/comment-page-1/#comment-495888

For rugby only commentary…

By: xtremebull

xtremebull — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:29:15 +0000

@ct sharks and heaven 35 and 37-Jip distribution is one of whiteheads biggest let alone main assets as a player… Its gonna be sad 2 see him on the bench from next year but frans at the moment is the sharks/boks go to man at 12…

And if we lucky enough long term successor 2 fransie need 2 be serfontein… Bare in mind frans is 25 and serfontein 19… He can learn quite enough….

Our loosies stock is exciting as well… Arno botha, marcell coetzee, siamthanda kolisi, pieter steph-du toit ,etzebeth(already a bok)… I’m just searching for a future captain and an exciting hooker aged 19-21 then I think we will conquer the test arena.

By: bryce_in_oz

bryce_in_oz — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:28:07 +0000

@Heavens Game-39: Yeah they had to though... at that time they had Beast, Smit, Carstens, JDP and Cilliers was injured with a dodgy knee for all that time...

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:21:01 +0000

@bryce_in_oz-30: Sharks letting Cilliers go was a mistake... The Michaelhouse Old boy must get back home in Black and White and fight it out with Doc DuP for the 3 position.

By: bryce_in_oz

bryce_in_oz — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:19:13 +0000

@CT Shark-32: Yep I'm kinda in the same book mate on Cilliers... I think it's more of an indication of how little there is to select at TH in RSA... @CT Shark-35: Again it's difficult to argue that WLR is not exciting... but then again he reminds me of that other Free-stater Burger but to his credit... more rounded so far... and not 'too scared' to tackle...

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:17:00 +0000

@CT Shark-35: Better distribution skills than Frans...? Aikona

By: CT Shark

CT Shark — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:15:41 +0000

@xtremebull-34: It certainly does……as I said I watched all the Junior Boks World Cup games…..and Small-Smith and Serfontein were the best centers on show during the entire world cup.

I was super unimpressed with Tony Jantjies….and Pollard played him right out of the side. If you think that these kids haven’t even finished growing yet….and are still to become bigger and stronger…..WOW……it augurs well for both Bulls and Bok rugby!!

Exciting times ahead……

By: CT Shark

CT Shark — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:11:31 +0000

@bryce_in_oz-33: I don see JJ as Bok material…..and certainly not at center.

Not sure what you mean when when you no real 12 if Frans is injured? Whitehead was a superb 12 during the Super15 and in fact I believe possesses better distribution skills than Frans….who can be a bit of a ball hog at times.

Willie Le Roux will never make it on the international stage….I honestly think he’s wasted at wing and fullback…..I think he’d make a wonderful attacking 10 for Stormers instead of the 1 dimensional Grant. Le Roux has superb distribution skills and attacks the gain line really well…..if I was a Stormers administrator…..I’d be gunning for Le Roux…..but WP Rugby can’t even hold onto their own players…..let alone make some intelligent purchases. LOL

By: xtremebull

xtremebull — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:07:21 +0000

I think serfontein is a prospect for the future but him and small-smith need 2 be the best at age group first and then take the step-up(if we culd keep hold of them)…regarding jj I’d prefer him at 13 with a wingman as a option… Pollard is the same with serfontein/small-smith… They will b the 10-12-13 axis at age group with kriel at 15… Don’t u think that bodes well for the future of bullsrugby….

By: bryce_in_oz

bryce_in_oz — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:54:45 +0000

@CT Shark-29:

JJ’s prefered position is wing where he was great for WP last season… Sadie’s injuries kept him at 13 for the Bull’s…

I guess we will see how he goes as HM rates him… but the Bok’s are starting to accumulate a few to many wings (yet no real 12 if Franny is injured)… Habana, JPP, Mvovu, Basson, Aplon, JJ, arguably Hougaard… and then there is Willie Le Roux and so on…

By: CT Shark

CT Shark — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:52:46 +0000

@bryce_in_oz-30: To be honest I've NEVER rated Cilliers....and I'm a died in the wool Sharks supporter. I have no idea what he's doing in the Bok side and my fear is that if HM uses him against the AB's he's going to folded double and spat out on the sideline.

By: CT Shark

CT Shark — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:50:59 +0000

@xtremebull-27: I don’t see the hype around Venter? Watching him last night he looked out of sorts and lost…..Beyers looked even worse.

At this stage I’m a big fan of JJ at center….but he does show sparks of potential. I watched all the Junior World Cup games down here in CT…..and I have to say that I’m in AWE of Jan Serfontein!! I think this is name that is going to become household with the Boks very shortly!!

I also don’t think Hougie is a starting scrummie anymore….I think Vermaak is far better than him……those seasons out on the wing have messed him up.

Cronje is rubbish and I wouldn’t have him in your side if you paid me…..the Bulls need Pollard and they need him quickly!! Fouche and Cronje are 3rd rate…..

By: bryce_in_oz

bryce_in_oz — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:48:18 +0000

@Heavens Game-25: Cilliers IMO is a slightly (and only just so far as he needs to prove himself) improved version of Deon Carstens... and what an asset and career he has had in a world where TH/LH hybrids are more valuable than ever...