KeoTV: Call for the king

KeoTV: Call for the king

17 Aug 2012

MARK KEOHANE and RYAN VREDE don’t believe Francois Hougaard is the answer as a starting scrumhalf. That man is in Japan and will still play a crucial role with the Springboks.


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  • 101.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:01 pm

    @Heavens Game-100:
    hougie is a wing
    finish and klaar

  • 102.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:04 pm

    @Heavens Game-100: Under Meyer, Steyn will always be safe. Hougaard must be allowed to play his natural game. The Boks need to have the balls to take to ball-in-hand assault rugby, show us how good Morne Steyn, Francois Steyn, and JDV are creating and exploiting space.

  • 103.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:07 pm

    @mpundulu-102:
    spies loses the ball too much in contact,keegan is a better option in any gameplan but esp in a running gameplan where he links with the backs.

  • 104.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:13 pm

    @Fern-103: No argument there, Spies has been suspicious for a long time, he knows it too! Rugby reporters are petrified to write any truthful assessment of him, I thought Keo would have the constitution to speak loudly of this issue but he’s playing hide and seek with the rest of his motley crue.

  • 105.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:17 pm

    @mpundulu-102: Steyn’s play has been affected by Hougaard… I actually dont think they are a good partnership even excluding Hougies struggles with quick service and kicking travails.

    Anyway, am over and out for now. Time for some vitamin beer.

  • 106.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:19 pm

    @mpundulu-104:
    I have nothing personal against him,but how can you accept a jersey time after time again knowing you are far from the best player in that position.
    Has he no self respect and pride in himself?

  • 107.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:19 pm

    @Heavens Game-105:
    Enjoy the wetties.

  • 108.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:21 pm

    @Fern-106: Maybe he faked the injury…..

  • 109.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:32 pm

    @TooMuchRugby-108:
    well he has a mysterious injury before.

  • 110.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:33 pm

    @TooMuchRugby-108:
    well he has had a mysterious injury before.

  • 111.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:33 pm

    @mpundulu-83: the incredabrain, always astute.

  • 112.ryecatcher: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:42 pm

    Fern.The French international flyhalf
    who played for Natal with Mendes,Roumat.
    Was his name Thierry laCroix?

  • 113.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:46 pm

    @ryecatcher-112:
    Yes that was him
    Once converted a try right in front of the poles with his back to the poles and reverse kicking with his heel.
    went over aswell.

  • 114.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:46 pm

    @ryecatcher-112: Yes

  • 115.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:48 pm

    @Heavens Game-105: Steyn needs a crutch, can you imagine Carter blaming Aaron Smith for his weak game!!!!

  • 116.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:48 pm

    we also had plumtree and mexted plying their trade
    we had 2 french locks cant think of the other ones name now,help please sl

  • 117.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:49 pm

    @Transformation-111: A god amongst gods, that is he Wayne Smith!

  • 118.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:50 pm

    @Fern-106: Damn right, there’s no injury there, he knows he doesn’t cut it.

  • 119.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:50 pm

    @TooMuchRugby-108: AFFIRMATIVE

  • 120.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:52 pm

    @Fern-116: The Argie Scrum Half that plaYED FOR US FOR A SHORT WHILE

  • 121.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:54 pm

    @ryecatcher-112: Yes Thierry La Croix

  • 122.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:54 pm

    @mpundulu-118:
    My sister has a degree in nursing and worked as a ICU nurse.
    His illness made no sense to her and she has seen a lot in her career.

  • 123.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:55 pm

    @sharks_lover-120:
    he was on loan i think to us.

  • 124.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:58 pm

    @Fern-123: nope, contracted for a season

  • 125.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 16:58 pm

    @Fern-122: Suspicious bull

  • 126.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 17:00 pm

    @mpundulu-117: just arrived in the mother city…clear skies. :-)

  • 127.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 17:02 pm

    the illness he had is not hereditary as reported.
    was a pulmary oedema if not mistaken,caused by a hard knock and a seperation of membranes that is filled with air if i remember correctly.

  • 128.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 17:06 pm

    @Transformation-126: Send my hullos to the people.

  • 129.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 17:10 pm

    I am watching the 2009 Boks vs blacks tri nations game on espn now.
    Fransie Steyn chipping it over from 60m out.
    What a boykie!

  • 130.mpundulu: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 17:12 pm

    http://www.therugbysite.com/blog_posts/235-all-blacks-unpredictibility-gives-them-an-edge-by-wayne-smith

  • 131.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 17:32 pm

    @Fern-129: hamilton… that was close with carter & his cross kicks

  • 132.Fern: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 17:35 pm

    @Transformation-131:
    frans steyn just looks so aloof when knocking over those long kicks,like it is just run of the mill.

  • 133.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 19:21 pm

    @Transformation-131: would not have been close if Owens didn’t keep walking the ABs to the front of the Bok posts for ridiculous non-penalties

    @Robzim-52: I don’t think the IBO are one of the most reputable, they’re pretty much on the periphery in terms of major titles.

    Unlike SBW, Botha is an actual boxer who was out-pointing Tyson before the KO, there’s no reason why he shouldn’t win, even at 43.

    Tommy Gun Oosthuizen is probably SA’s best boxer at present. He’s trying to make a name for himself in the US, it seems SA don’t get behind their boxers in a big way.

  • 134.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 23:16 pm

    my word, this is a classic thread…. hahahaha

    Fernly – hahahahaha did your big baas HG make you feel better? I have to laugh, the fact you think I am close to a “breakdown”, when all i did was call you out on your initial “lets meet at the Opera bar when I’m in Sydney next” call from a few years ago… remember, you were the one who initially wanted to meet me, and now youre upset because I said I would gladly do that, as I did originally, and you can mention my mum to my face.? LMFAO it just doesnt get better than watching you fall under the protective wing of HG…

    I hope HG tucked you in nice and warm and has made you feel all secure, did he regale you with his tales from France, the place he’s been hiding since his team got a hiding? hahahaha

    the very fact you need VALIDATION from HG the moment he logs back in is hysterical, really, havent laughed so much in years… thanks for that :D

    @Big Hit-133: good to see the hate for the ABs is still strong in you BH… another wonderful read, seeing your tears still falling after so many years… it must really hurt that probably the greatest English forward in history learnt how to play in lil ole NZ huh?

  • 135.HongKongSlong: Reply to this comment
    17 Aug 2012, 23:41 pm

    Hougard has had the misfortune of playing with Morne Steyn outside him. He seems to have copped a lot of flack unfairly in my opinion. Put a decent fly half outside him with some attacking threat and you’ll see what a handful the guy really is.

  • 136.victoriabok: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 00:01 am

    @HongKongSlong-135:

    He hasn’t developed as a no 9, played his formative years on the wing instead of playing Vodacom Cup and the like at no 9

    He wouldn’t be a bad Quade Cooper type No 10 either

  • 137.fitz1ella: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 00:09 am

    these people bemoaning the loss of FdP.. did they even WATCH the last WC.. FdP was one of the chief culprits for our loss..

    Him and Burger and top of the list Smit lost the Boks the WC in 2011…

    Hougaard, Bismark and Alberts should have started and Boks would have cleaned up Aussie and likely cleaned up AB’s in the semi next.

  • 138.HongKongSlong: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 00:50 am

    @victoriabok-136: I think he’s being made to look average, because The Bulls only want him to play in one way. If Will Genia had to play for the Bulls in their system with Steyn as his half back partner, he’d be looking average as well. The guy has some serious strengths, but is having to play to his weaknesses unfortunately.

  • 139.victoriabok: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 00:57 am

    @HongKongSlong-138:

    Any scrumhalf must have the ability so kick behind the pack if needed, not the FdP type of kicking game, but just to relive pressure, Genia and Weepu and all others can do it except Hougie

    His passing need work too and a lot of times he’s missing when he needs to pick op the ball behind a ruck

    The best thing you could do to him is to “demote” him back to the CC team to play scrummie for the rest of the season, and if he still doesn’t shape, make him a wing and allround backline player

  • 140.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 01:06 am

    @victoriabok-139: what is his preferred position? surely you want to play a guy in a position he is most comfortable in?

    Ive never understood it from any coach, unless its to cover a glaring weakness in the team, but it is a stop gap solution at best… you need to promote someone who has played the position throughout his career, this way they have that instinctual knowing when the situation demands..

    the same with Spies at 8, the guy grew up playing wing, and could’ve been a devestating winger in the mould of Lomu, yet he has been moved just because of his size..

    NZ do it too, and it is frustrating to see…

  • 141.Fern: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 05:44 am

    @poppa69-134:
    Exactly,a few years ago when you were your old self.
    Not the current bitter,depressed and angry Pooper.
    Fortuantly you are single,have no family or friends in Oz
    so they don’t have to suffer the effects of your current condition.
    Ek het werklik niks om vir jou tese oor n bier nie.

  • 142.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 07:44 am

    @Fern-141: hahaha and you know this how? what a tool..

    havent you got a braai to build, a jetty to embark upon and a dam to fake your own death in?

    who says Im bitter, because i dont like the negative way you guys continually deride my country, so giving it back (which incidentally, none of you enjoy the negative connotations about your country either) makes me bitter?

    hahahaha you really are a mamparra Fern..

  • 143.Fern: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 08:09 am

    poops give me your email addy and I will mail you a photo from my stoep.
    all my work is being done in december pumpkin,i have told you before.

  • 144.outrightrugby: Reply to this comment
    18 Aug 2012, 09:33 am

    Spies is a total waste of time. 4 times 15 meter runs in a game and he’s had a “blinder” mean while he’s missed tackles, not turned over balls at ruck time and has a lower tackle count than the other loosies. Spies = pressure on the boks on defense

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