144 Comments

• 1.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:42 pm

  Dragons overseas who can still offer significant contributions to the Boks:

  Heinke Van Der Merwe
  Gurthro Steenkamp
  Brian Mujati
  Bakkies Botha
  Danie Rossouw
  Francois Louw
  Ryan Kankowski
  Fourie Du Preez
  Jacques Fourie

• 2.Tacitus:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:44 pm

  Haven’t seen the video, but based on the introductory sentence, this is what I’ve been saying for some time.

• 3.WP-Forever:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:45 pm

  Ruan Pienaar at scrumhalf.

  Play Hougaard at wing.

• 4.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:46 pm

  Other valuable overseas-based players:

  Johann Muller (good squad-team man but more formidable players coming through)
  Joe Van Niekerk (but getting on in years and a host of new loosies coming through)
  Pedrie Wannenberg (same as Big Joe above)
  Schalk Britz (so many quality hookers coming through so potentially superfluous)

• 5.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:47 pm

  terrible business this shooting at lonmin.
  terrible and tragic.

  this could herald a turning point wrt popular discontent

• 6.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:48 pm

  if fdp’s fit and god to go then play him.

• 7.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:49 pm

  9. Du Preez, Pienaar
  10. Goosen, Steyn
  11. Habana, Mvovo
  12. Steyn, De Villiers
  13. Fourie, Engelbrecht
  14. Pieterson, Hougaard
  15. Lambie, Taute

  Those are the players I’d want in the mix.

  With Jantjies, Serfontein, De Jongh, Jordaan, Basson, Aplon and Kirchner on the fringes.

• 8.fantasticbarnsmell:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:50 pm

  instead of sticking your finger in the **** (yikes), why not rather look to develop a younger prospect that might pay off in the future , you guys speak like there are only 2 scrumhalves of South African nationality in the world.

  we are currently facing a situation where our choice scrumhalf and flyhalf are off their kicking games, and yet instead of looking at the game plan, we instead frantically search the geriatric ward for someone who still might still fit this predicable, archaic strategy. frustrating…

• 9.Tacitus:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:51 pm

  Need a star fullback to make the position his own for the next 5 years. We don’t have that at ther moment.

• 10.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:53 pm

  @puff-1:
  beast has been scrumming well
  but i would pick an inform gurthro without an eyelid
  he was simply monumental for toulouse in the top14 final

  bakkies if fit and inweight, which he seems to be, also gets a nod.

• 11.greegs:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:53 pm

  “The king” has made himself unavailable! Only other option is Hougaard.
  Ruan Pienaar has been useless in the past and should not even be considered.
  I’d play Hougie but would include van Zyl as he looks like a prospect!
  Agree with you that Hougie should not kick at all…

• 12.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:53 pm

  @Tacitus-9:

  Taute, once refined, should be it – like a combo of Frans Steyn and Chris Latham.

• 13.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 12:54 pm

  @fantasticbarnsmell-8:
  stick your finger in the dike..?..

• 14.fantasticbarnsmell:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:02 pm

  @i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-13: that’s the one, should have probably considered using the american spelling to get around the keo naughty-word filter…

• 15.willievz:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:11 pm

  @Tacitus-2: Agree. He is not even 30 yet, and it would be a waste not to play one of the best 9s in the history of the game.

  @Tacitus-9: Andries Coetzee.

  @puff-12: I’m not convinced about his running lines on the counterattack just yet. A better 13, IMO.

• 16.Xkreni-WP:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:12 pm

  I see Sannie bill to fight the White buffalo on 17 Nov. I predict SB to be staring at the inside of his eyelids within 45 seconds

• 17.Xkreni-WP:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:12 pm

  Oh and Bagel, gaan naai djou ma……..

• 18.WP-Forever:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:17 pm

  @Xkreni-WP-17:

  Sies man, jy kan nie so van jou eie vrou praat nie.

• 19.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:40 pm

  @fantasticbarnsmell-14:
  i would love to stick my finger in a dike.

• 20.kaksioek:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:54 pm

  At the risk of sounding like Skopskiet (bless him), how ******* i n g retarded do you have to be to want Fourie ******* i n g Du Preez back for the Boks? J e s u s C h r i s t. Let’s just get Smit back too and call it a day. Better yet, let’s just pick the 22 players in the country who can kick the ball the greatest distance and they can do nothing else all day long. What a spectacle that will be, and the results will surely follow

• 21.Transformation:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:54 pm

  is hougaard worse than aaron smith who the kiwis have backed & made their incumbent?

• 22.Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:55 pm

  Sbw is going to fight the white buffalo fransie botha
  Confirmed:-)

• 23.fantasticbarnsmell:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:58 pm

  @Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-22: he must be near middle age by now…

• 24.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:59 pm

  By all means bring Du Preez back.
  But please don’t make him captain.

• 25.Transformation:
  17 Aug 2012, 13:59 pm

  @kaksioek-20: as keo said earlier in the week “meyer needs his big guns”

• 26.TooMuchRugby:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:00 pm

  The King is dead! Long live the King!

• 27.Tacitus:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:01 pm

  @Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-22:

  I’m not clued up on the boxing world, but surely someone like Corrie Sanders – who actually was a contender for a world title – is a far better boxer than that old overweight Francois Botha?

  Or am I wrong?

• 28.kaksioek:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:01 pm

  Good grief. Francois Botha is 43. Stay classy, SBW. Maybe we should pick Botha for the Boks too. How’s his kicking game?

• 29.Tacitus:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:04 pm

  @kaksioek-28:

  I see Botha says he’d love to fight Sani Bill. “During halftime of a rugby match, with one hand tied behind his back.”

  Hehehe. These guys sure know how to work up a bit of drama before a boxing match.

• 30.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:08 pm

  @Transformation-21:
  is the comparison correct though?
  hougaard’s got about 30 caps by now (how many at 9?) and smith at 2 caps is just starting out as a scrummie. he has done ok’ish this far but consider the average deadbeats he replaced (pieman and cowman?).

• 31.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:09 pm

  Janse Van Rensburg
  Oosthuyzen
  Maku
  Visagie
  Cilliers
  Van Der Linde
  Van Der Merwe
  Botha
  Greef
  Van Heerden
  Grobelaar
  Minnie
  Strauss
  Rhodes
  Whiteley
  Bondesio
  James
  Jantjies
  Volmink
  Murray
  Mapoe
  Van Rensburg
  Taute
  Coetzee

  Who will stay and who will go now?

• 32.RL:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:10 pm

  Hougie is a kak scrummie! His kicks from the base of the ruck is so slow and so predictable he needs a snake to protect him. Play him on the wing in place of that ubber kak Mvovo who does not know how to defend and who catch high balls launched to him.

  Get Pienaar to start and forget about that hasbeen radioactive du preez.

• 33.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:10 pm

  @Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-22:
  that fight really could go either way.

• 34.TooMuchRugby:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:12 pm

  @puff-31:
  Congratulations, you know the names of most of the LIons players

• 35.Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:13 pm

  Atleast Botha is not a medically boarded overweight gospel singing Islander…
  Could go anyway

• 36.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:14 pm

  If they stay there will be trouble…
  If they go there will be double…

• 37.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:17 pm

  i hope botha moers him

• 38.puff:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:19 pm

  Sharks should buy back Cilliers.
  Chadwick isn’t up to it and Herbst only plays 3.
  Cilliers will offer welcome depth and also help to alleviate Doc Jannie’s workload.

• 39.Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:20 pm

  Brian Mitchell must come out of retirement and moer him proper.

• 40.Robzim:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:20 pm

  @Tacitus-27:

  Sanders is a bit older than Botha and has retired years ago while Botha is still active. (albeit boxing, kickboxing and even MMA). Botha was also a contender and has in fact fought against much better opponents than Sanders (including all time greats such as Tyson and Lennox Lewis) .

  Botha is still the best heavyweight in SA and is a crafty customer who should give SBW the hardest fight of his career. In fact imo he will be the overwhelming favourite to win the fight and SBW is taking a massive risk in accepting this fight.

• 41.Tacitus:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:22 pm

  Was listening to an expert on the radio pointing out how woefully untrained our police officers are, following the TV footage of the mine shootout last night.

  Without going into all the detail, the most prominent issue is something even I know from basic shooting range rules, and noticed immediately when watching the footage on the news.

  These cops were firing blasts of automatic gunfire at will at these approaching protestors, but some of the cops were standing 5 or 10 yards IN FRONT of their colleagues, all firing in the same direction.

  The bullets from the cops at the back were flying by less than a metre from the cops in the front, and these guys were stumbling across rough terrain, moving as they were shooting.

  It is a miracle that they didn’t drop half of their fellow cops with “friendly fire”.

  The response was so over the top, and dangerous to themselves, and this is mainly due to insufficient training in dealing with these types of situations.

• 42.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:22 pm

  agreed
  sonny could see his arse in this one
  big, big gamble

• 43.TooMuchRugby:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:28 pm

  @Tacitus-41:
  JaNee, hulle is definitief nie die reels van “vuur-en-beweging” geleer nie

• 44.Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:29 pm

  @41
  We did urban anti-insurgency course before we went to riots.
  These guys were not in a straight line and barrels were moving across friendly bodies in front of them.
  The first order would have every taking their rifles off saftey and into the single fire pos.
  A verbal warning would follow,if ignored at order weapons would be cocked all in unison.
  Verbal warning
  Warning shots into the air
  Then deadly force and not on automatic.

• 45.kaksioek:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:31 pm

  I just don’t know what we’re supposed to make of SBW’s boxing. We shouldn’t have to hear about it until he beats someone within 10 years of his own age who isn’t a complete bum.

• 46.Tacitus:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:34 pm

  @Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19-44:

  Yes, if you saw the footage, these guys were huddled together in an unorganised group then suddenly saw a bunch of panga weilding strikers approaching.

  In panic they just let rip with their guns, nevermind whether some of their own guys were in front of them or not.

  This is being broadcast on Sky News and all over the world. What a laughing stock we must be to those countries that have trained riot police, with protocols, sequential levels of escalation of force and specialist officers dealing with different types of threats.

  Heck, even the weapons these guys were allocated were wrong. Some of them should have had shotguns (which can fire various levels of ammo, rather than allocating automatic rifles with hard ammo to the whole bunch.

• 47.gunther:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:35 pm

  Cop skiet oh donner.

• 48.bryce_in_oz:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:43 pm

  @Robzim-40:

  “Botha is still the best heavyweight in SA ”

  Er I think you’ve been out of the game for quite some time… Frans got smashed by an almost 50 yr old punch-drunk Holyfield in a freak-show two years ago and has not beaten any one of note in more than a decade… his K1 and kick-boxing career was woefully inept and even that was half a decade ago since his beatings… as for him and MMA… surely you jest… one half-baked K1 experiment against the then 70 odd kg Akiyama (who tapped him out like a *****)?

  Nup… just another bum on the road a-la- his mentor Choc Mundine…

• 49.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:53 pm

  So how are the mofgatte, multinics, nicthieves and general cunties today….?

  Oh yes… and humble Sharks fans… and those rational King Heyneke supporters…

• 50.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 14:57 pm

  Will be an awesome weekend if:

  - Ozzies shag the Sheepshaggers
  - Boks smack the Pumas
  - and Sharks shikka their opponents…

  Viva Keegan Viva.

• 51.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:02 pm

  Sounds of Silence…

  What… is it the multinic tea break??

• 52.Robzim:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:02 pm

  @bryce_in_oz-48:

  Nope, I am not out of the game. Botha is indeed the best heavyweight in SA – he is in fact the only South African heavyweight who is ranked in the top 100 by the IBO (probably the most reputable boxing organisation in the world) and also by a few other organisations.

  In his last fight against a South African in 2011 he knocked out a bloke called Simba who was at that stage undefeated and seen as the next big local hope.

  I am not saying that he is a world beater but only said he is still the best heavyweigh boxer in this country and that statement is backed by the world rankings.

• 53.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:03 pm

  @44
  should read counter insurgency
  keep in mind in this week 10 people has been killed,2 were cops that was hacked to death and a woman was gangraped.
  I would have opened fire aswell if you stormed me and my life was in danger.
  End of topic.

• 54.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:03 pm

  @Robzim-52:
  I think he has too much ammo for sbw

• 55.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:04 pm

  Looking forward to seeing King Keegan the Lionheart in a more compatible partnership with his fellow Sharks at loosie… Nothing like going into Rugby battle against the Argies with Bone Collector on one side and Wrecking Ball on the other side of the pack…

  Farken Dynamite Combo…

• 56.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:05 pm

  HG it seems like Pooper is in need of some intervention from you.
  Mt Pooper nearly erupted a couple of times this week.

• 57.Tacitus:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:05 pm

  @Fern-53:

  Agreed. But it could have been handled more profesionally before reaching that point.

• 58.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:05 pm

  @Heavens Game-55:
  He is just going to state what we all know

• 59.TooMuchRugby:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:06 pm

  @Heavens Game-49:
  Hi HG
  Did they release you from your cubicle at last?

• 60.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:06 pm

  @Tacitus-57:
  Tac it was a stuff up from the start.

• 61.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:07 pm

  We are Black…
  We are White…
  Naah…

  We are Gold
  We are Green…

  We are
  We are

  A farken mean machine…

  With much black and white dynamite in the engine room.

• 62.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:08 pm

  @Heavens Game-50: hehehehe HG ya mad fugger lmfao, howzit boet??

• 63.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:09 pm

  I am sure Sharksgirl Lite will be happy with us losing in the final and Plumtree taking a break from coaching for this cc season.

• 64.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:09 pm

  @Fern-56: The Fatty gone Hormonal again? Sheezus… Damn, I missed the fun

• 65.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:10 pm

  HG is on a roll

• 66.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:11 pm

  @Fern-58: Yes… It will be good for him to be with players that understand his play… Hope he takes this opportunity to really show his ability at Test level.

• 67.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:11 pm

  @Heavens Game-64:
  I just asked him if his mom would be proud if she saw how he carries on here and how he returns serve.
  I was merely holding up a mirror for him.
  He called me a fck and asked me when I am going to be in Sydney again cause I must say that to his face.

• 68.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:11 pm

  @sharks_lover-62: Huzzit SL… All good. Bring on Rugga weekend.

• 69.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:12 pm

  @Heavens Game-66:
  And the Boks will see what are gained by Spies not being there.

• 70.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:13 pm

  @Heavens Game-68: Yeah man cant wait, gonna be a cracker

• 71.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:13 pm

  @Fern-67: Oh dear… Must be full moon now in Kings Cross Sydney

• 72.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:13 pm

  @Fern-69: Hey Fernsy,

• 73.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:14 pm

  @Heavens Game-71: I was not being disrespectfull or insulting,my question was legit and seems he has been doing some introspection cause he has been scarce since then

• 74.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:15 pm

  Hello sl,are you in deben now?

• 75.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:15 pm

  @Fern-69: Its up to Daniel now… He has a real opportunity… Playing with team mates and against the Pumas where he will have potential to shine in his first start…. Taylormade!

  Good on Heyneke for giving him the opportunity.

• 76.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:16 pm

  Dbn Ski Boat Club for a prawn curry is the spot to be right now,that is if you were there in time before it sold out.
  That is one lekker dik chow.

• 77.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:17 pm

  @Heavens Game-75:
  If he shines HM has no reason to let spies just walk back into the team after recovry from his injury.

• 78.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:17 pm

  @sharks_lover-70: Yup… Like the look of the side… Happy for Mvovo… Pity SuperPat couldnt start too…But can live with that. an oppurtunity for Zane to perform well though

• 79.Mr Black:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:19 pm

  Any protest action undertaken with a weapon should be taken seriously.

  Why are they so shocked at the result?

• 80.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:20 pm

  @Fern-73: Good man… But it is good to press Poop’s buttons… Sometimes he is gagging for it too much though… You feel dirty doing it because sometimes I reckon the poor fool actually gets off on it…

• 81.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:22 pm

  @Fern-74: YUP BOET , In Balito, lekker warm day

• 82.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:23 pm

  @Heavens Game-80:
  very possible
  him and gwailo in china are in the same boat
  homesick nicky no mates

• 83.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:24 pm

  http://www.therugbysite.com/blog_posts/236-south-africa-and-argentina-haunted-by-fear-by-wayne-smith

  Interesting article, talks of Francois Hougaard a bit.

• 84.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:24 pm

  @sharks_lover-81:
  It was about 26 in jhb/pta today.
  lets hope the cold is gone now.

• 85.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:25 pm

  @sharks_lover-81: Farken jealous.

• 86.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:28 pm

  Later all,Chunt du Fernly has to go and do some shopping shap shap.

• 87.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:28 pm

  @mpundulu-83: Very interesting article.

• 88.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:29 pm

  @Fern-86: Cheers Chunty

• 89.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:29 pm

  @Fern-84: Dont think it’s totally over, but getting there lol

  @Heavens Game-85: Just had lunch at that hotel right on the beach front, awesome day

• 90.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:30 pm

  @Fern-86: ciao chunty

• 91.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:38 pm

  @sharks_lover-89: Was in Umhlanga two weekends back… Was good.

• 92.TooMuchRugby:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:42 pm

  @mpundulu-83:
  Interesting article – somebody should email it to The Meyer

• 93.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:42 pm

  @TooMuchRugby-59: WTF…Cubicle… lol

• 94.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:43 pm

  @Heavens Game-91: cool

• 95.TooMuchRugby:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:46 pm

  @Heavens Game-93: The one with the padded walls

• 96.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:47 pm

  @TooMuchRugby-92: Fully agree mate, Meyer needs to know!!!

• 97.ryecatcher:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:50 pm

  HG @ everywhere
  Welcome back.

• 98.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:51 pm

  @Heavens Game-87: Give Meyer a shout boss.

• 99.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:53 pm

  @ryecatcher-97: Huzzit… Good that the nicthieves have tired of their fun for a while… A dogshow

• 100.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 15:57 pm

  @mpundulu-98: Meyer’s alright, cuzzie… Keegan is playing…. Lwazi is playing… Happiness is.

  Pienaar will take over soon… Last chance saloon is looming for Hougaard, I reckon, especially if he doesn’t perform when and if the Pack dominates.

  Also Steyn will have to look sharp quick.

• 101.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:01 pm

  @Heavens Game-100:
  hougie is a wing
  finish and klaar

• 102.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:04 pm

  @Heavens Game-100: Under Meyer, Steyn will always be safe. Hougaard must be allowed to play his natural game. The Boks need to have the balls to take to ball-in-hand assault rugby, show us how good Morne Steyn, Francois Steyn, and JDV are creating and exploiting space.

• 103.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:07 pm

  @mpundulu-102:
  spies loses the ball too much in contact,keegan is a better option in any gameplan but esp in a running gameplan where he links with the backs.

• 104.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:13 pm

  @Fern-103: No argument there, Spies has been suspicious for a long time, he knows it too! Rugby reporters are petrified to write any truthful assessment of him, I thought Keo would have the constitution to speak loudly of this issue but he’s playing hide and seek with the rest of his motley crue.

• 105.Heavens Game:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:17 pm

  @mpundulu-102: Steyn’s play has been affected by Hougaard… I actually dont think they are a good partnership even excluding Hougies struggles with quick service and kicking travails.

  Anyway, am over and out for now. Time for some vitamin beer.

• 106.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:19 pm

  @mpundulu-104:
  I have nothing personal against him,but how can you accept a jersey time after time again knowing you are far from the best player in that position.
  Has he no self respect and pride in himself?

• 107.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:19 pm

  @Heavens Game-105:
  Enjoy the wetties.

• 108.TooMuchRugby:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:21 pm

  @Fern-106: Maybe he faked the injury…..

• 109.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:32 pm

  @TooMuchRugby-108:
  well he has a mysterious injury before.

• 110.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:33 pm

  @TooMuchRugby-108:
  well he has had a mysterious injury before.

• 111.Transformation:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:33 pm

  @mpundulu-83: the incredabrain, always astute.

• 112.ryecatcher:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:42 pm

  Fern.The French international flyhalf
  who played for Natal with Mendes,Roumat.
  Was his name Thierry laCroix?

• 113.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:46 pm

  @ryecatcher-112:
  Yes that was him
  Once converted a try right in front of the poles with his back to the poles and reverse kicking with his heel.
  went over aswell.

• 114.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:46 pm

  @ryecatcher-112: Yes

• 115.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:48 pm

  @Heavens Game-105: Steyn needs a crutch, can you imagine Carter blaming Aaron Smith for his weak game!!!!

• 116.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:48 pm

  we also had plumtree and mexted plying their trade
  we had 2 french locks cant think of the other ones name now,help please sl

• 117.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:49 pm

  @Transformation-111: A god amongst gods, that is he Wayne Smith!

• 118.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:50 pm

  @Fern-106: Damn right, there’s no injury there, he knows he doesn’t cut it.

• 119.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:50 pm

  @TooMuchRugby-108: AFFIRMATIVE

• 120.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:52 pm

  @Fern-116: The Argie Scrum Half that plaYED FOR US FOR A SHORT WHILE

• 121.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:54 pm

  @ryecatcher-112: Yes Thierry La Croix

• 122.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:54 pm

  @mpundulu-118:
  My sister has a degree in nursing and worked as a ICU nurse.
  His illness made no sense to her and she has seen a lot in her career.

• 123.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:55 pm

  @sharks_lover-120:
  he was on loan i think to us.

• 124.sharks_lover:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:58 pm

  @Fern-123: nope, contracted for a season

• 125.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 16:58 pm

  @Fern-122: Suspicious bull

• 126.Transformation:
  17 Aug 2012, 17:00 pm

  @mpundulu-117: just arrived in the mother city…clear skies.

• 127.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 17:02 pm

  the illness he had is not hereditary as reported.
  was a pulmary oedema if not mistaken,caused by a hard knock and a seperation of membranes that is filled with air if i remember correctly.

• 128.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 17:06 pm

  @Transformation-126: Send my hullos to the people.

• 129.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 17:10 pm

  I am watching the 2009 Boks vs blacks tri nations game on espn now.
  Fransie Steyn chipping it over from 60m out.
  What a boykie!

• 130.mpundulu:
  17 Aug 2012, 17:12 pm

  http://www.therugbysite.com/blog_posts/235-all-blacks-unpredictibility-gives-them-an-edge-by-wayne-smith

• 131.Transformation:
  17 Aug 2012, 17:32 pm

  @Fern-129: hamilton… that was close with carter & his cross kicks

• 132.Fern:
  17 Aug 2012, 17:35 pm

  @Transformation-131:
  frans steyn just looks so aloof when knocking over those long kicks,like it is just run of the mill.

• 133.Big Hit:
  17 Aug 2012, 19:21 pm

  @Transformation-131: would not have been close if Owens didn’t keep walking the ABs to the front of the Bok posts for ridiculous non-penalties

  @Robzim-52: I don’t think the IBO are one of the most reputable, they’re pretty much on the periphery in terms of major titles.

  Unlike SBW, Botha is an actual boxer who was out-pointing Tyson before the KO, there’s no reason why he shouldn’t win, even at 43.

  Tommy Gun Oosthuizen is probably SA’s best boxer at present. He’s trying to make a name for himself in the US, it seems SA don’t get behind their boxers in a big way.

• 134.poppa69:
  17 Aug 2012, 23:16 pm

  my word, this is a classic thread…. hahahaha

  Fernly – hahahahaha did your big baas HG make you feel better? I have to laugh, the fact you think I am close to a “breakdown”, when all i did was call you out on your initial “lets meet at the Opera bar when I’m in Sydney next” call from a few years ago… remember, you were the one who initially wanted to meet me, and now youre upset because I said I would gladly do that, as I did originally, and you can mention my mum to my face.? LMFAO it just doesnt get better than watching you fall under the protective wing of HG…

  I hope HG tucked you in nice and warm and has made you feel all secure, did he regale you with his tales from France, the place he’s been hiding since his team got a hiding? hahahaha

  the very fact you need VALIDATION from HG the moment he logs back in is hysterical, really, havent laughed so much in years… thanks for that

  @Big Hit-133: good to see the hate for the ABs is still strong in you BH… another wonderful read, seeing your tears still falling after so many years… it must really hurt that probably the greatest English forward in history learnt how to play in lil ole NZ huh?

• 135.HongKongSlong:
  17 Aug 2012, 23:41 pm

  Hougard has had the misfortune of playing with Morne Steyn outside him. He seems to have copped a lot of flack unfairly in my opinion. Put a decent fly half outside him with some attacking threat and you’ll see what a handful the guy really is.

• 136.victoriabok:
  18 Aug 2012, 00:01 am

  @HongKongSlong-135:

  He hasn’t developed as a no 9, played his formative years on the wing instead of playing Vodacom Cup and the like at no 9

  He wouldn’t be a bad Quade Cooper type No 10 either

• 137.fitz1ella:
  18 Aug 2012, 00:09 am

  these people bemoaning the loss of FdP.. did they even WATCH the last WC.. FdP was one of the chief culprits for our loss..

  Him and Burger and top of the list Smit lost the Boks the WC in 2011…

  Hougaard, Bismark and Alberts should have started and Boks would have cleaned up Aussie and likely cleaned up AB’s in the semi next.

• 138.HongKongSlong:
  18 Aug 2012, 00:50 am

  @victoriabok-136: I think he’s being made to look average, because The Bulls only want him to play in one way. If Will Genia had to play for the Bulls in their system with Steyn as his half back partner, he’d be looking average as well. The guy has some serious strengths, but is having to play to his weaknesses unfortunately.

• 139.victoriabok:
  18 Aug 2012, 00:57 am

  @HongKongSlong-138:

  Any scrumhalf must have the ability so kick behind the pack if needed, not the FdP type of kicking game, but just to relive pressure, Genia and Weepu and all others can do it except Hougie

  His passing need work too and a lot of times he’s missing when he needs to pick op the ball behind a ruck

  The best thing you could do to him is to “demote” him back to the CC team to play scrummie for the rest of the season, and if he still doesn’t shape, make him a wing and allround backline player

• 140.poppa69:
  18 Aug 2012, 01:06 am

  @victoriabok-139: what is his preferred position? surely you want to play a guy in a position he is most comfortable in?

  Ive never understood it from any coach, unless its to cover a glaring weakness in the team, but it is a stop gap solution at best… you need to promote someone who has played the position throughout his career, this way they have that instinctual knowing when the situation demands..

  the same with Spies at 8, the guy grew up playing wing, and could’ve been a devestating winger in the mould of Lomu, yet he has been moved just because of his size..

  NZ do it too, and it is frustrating to see…

• 141.Fern:
  18 Aug 2012, 05:44 am

  @poppa69-134:
  Exactly,a few years ago when you were your old self.
  Not the current bitter,depressed and angry Pooper.
  Fortuantly you are single,have no family or friends in Oz
  so they don’t have to suffer the effects of your current condition.
  Ek het werklik niks om vir jou tese oor n bier nie.

• 142.poppa69:
  18 Aug 2012, 07:44 am

  @Fern-141: hahaha and you know this how? what a tool..

  havent you got a braai to build, a jetty to embark upon and a dam to fake your own death in?

  who says Im bitter, because i dont like the negative way you guys continually deride my country, so giving it back (which incidentally, none of you enjoy the negative connotations about your country either) makes me bitter?

  hahahaha you really are a mamparra Fern..

• 143.Fern:
  18 Aug 2012, 08:09 am

  poops give me your email addy and I will mail you a photo from my stoep.
  all my work is being done in december pumpkin,i have told you before.

• 144.outrightrugby:
  18 Aug 2012, 09:33 am

  Spies is a total waste of time. 4 times 15 meter runs in a game and he’s had a “blinder” mean while he’s missed tackles, not turned over balls at ruck time and has a lower tackle count than the other loosies. Spies = pressure on the boks on defense

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