I disagree about remarks about Smit. The public do not know the “politics” that surround the inclusion of him exactly. We did not perform badly at the world cup because of him. The Ref that twat from NZ probably had a bookies bet waged on the match. Closed thing I ever saw in rugby to match fixing. The NZ public were so overwelmed by his actions that they felt he deserved a nighthood. that says volumes… Was it not Walsh who had a drinking disorder prior? He even has tatoos, looks disgusting on a ref, that also speaks volumes…
My guess about Smit is because of his loyalty and honour to his country, team and coach, he might have been asked or offered something that lead him to remain. Talking about him being fat, well then you cant know to much about rugby. The position he was forced to play requires more weight, very simple realy.
Do we forget the match against Somoa
( an extremely, extremely extremely passionate Allblack supporter as are the Fijians and Tongons.
Having been to Fiji and NZ myself and had many discussions with Mori’s, Fijians, Tongans and Samoans about rugby in genral. These tiny island nations are extremely poor, have very little infestructrer, all want to live in NZ- as NZ has jobs available and being a country with immigant Mori’s – pacific island people too- feel an affiliation to NZ more so than Oz.)
They said they would do the Allblacks proud and do what it takes. Who was the ref that day, Barnes was it? One of the most brutal games if seen where red cards were crying out and none were given let alone yellow. Half that team should have been playing. Dont you find it strange that straight after, again, very very very bad reffing at a point where the sectator can see the injustice.
You then ask who was the Allblacks biggest threat?
You then ask who are the biggest chokers in rugby WCs?
You then ask what would be the worst team that was not the AllBlacks that could win in New Zealand? Imagine the thought after. Remembering the WC will probably never go back to NZ because it is a loss finacially having it staged there(too far away and too small a population to sustain it by themselves)

So you then want to blame Smit, common on, yes Bissy was the better player by a long shot but it was not his fault for such disgusting refering the world has ever seen considering it was a world stage event. We did not loos the world cup because of Smit. We have to take into account racist South Africa. Theres this new word called transformation which is simply another word “installed” to be “politically correct” and prevent them been labled racist. But it is no different to Quota, and all that racist ****, transformation is the same shite. Basically a bunch of people who cant move forward, thats who they are. And if it continues one should wonder what was the point of the white people giving up the reigns in the first place.

A Springbok captain is not a captain like any other rugby nation in the world. He is a politition. Smit goes down in history as one of the best captains not just in SA but in the world. He was able to deal with all that political bullshite other captains have no idea about, zero. He delt with it so well it is admirable.

I believe Smit could have retained the WC, we could have beaten the ABs making Springbok rugby special. The problem was the superpowers of the world did not want that to happen.
Ever watched a movie like “Wag the Dog”.
Why can a dog wag his tail? Because he is smarter than the tail…

Sad that a Kiwi can show more respect to the bok captain than a so called South African.

We all have disappointment in life wnbb.

Bizzzy has his.
John has had more than a few, I should imagine.

It’s how we handle these moments that make us better people.

john soldiered on for the boks without match fitness regardless.

plumtree did his thing and where did bissy get them in the end anyway..?..
for that reason alone plumtree can go and fark himself.

John was ASKED to be a Hooker, a Prop, a Captain, a bench player covering 2 positions, a starter, an after-match speaker, and the fall guy.

And he never shirked his responsibilities once.

I would imagine Bizzy would be quite complimentary regarding Smitty.

Ah ………………………………..Biggles.
I have a question only you can answer.
(if you are still here of course).

What was that…………………………… very tall squiggly thingy that looked like the roller coaster from hell, next to the Main Olympic Stadium. Twice as tall, and used for fireworks etc.

Not sure how old Luke is now Doggie, but it is unlikely that he is in the full flush of youth.
Leadership might be his best contribution.

Even the most stubborn have to admit he got a raw and unfair deal fullstop.

I’m in the minority then I guess, as I really AM keen to see him back in action (and hopefully shutting a few of his haters up once again)

I was not inferring YOU had issues with Luke.

When I said “you pricks” I meant the hoi polloi of keo.comedy.
Not the aristocracy.

2006…………………………………………seems like yesterday Transie.

old ground.