KeoTV: Stop Steyn bashing

KeoTV: Stop Steyn bashing

24 Aug 2012

MARK KEOHANE and RYAN VREDE agree that Morne Steyn is the best flyhalf we have in the context of what Heyneke Meyer wants to achieve with his game plan.

 


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  • 401.ryecatcher: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 16:40 pm

    J.Galt.Talking about Lambie here of course.Another Ruan.

  • 402.ryecatcher: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 17:01 pm

    Skeppie @ 375.What an indicment on Refs-Linesmen

  • 403.Spiesisworthless1: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 17:03 pm

    @mshiniwami-385: Also hate that “context of the gameplan” rubbish. If Meyers aspring for a 60 % win-rate and to perfect the art of dull, cynical rugby then Mourn Stain is indeed the best man for the job. Not sure the context of the IRB rules favour that approach anymore, 2009 is long gone.

    Hell, he can go one better and play without a fetcher like he’s been determined to do so far. That’s been working really well so far against the notorious breakdown scavengers of England and Argentina.

  • 404.maximus1: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 17:06 pm

    Morne Steyn is kak

  • 405.maximus1: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 17:17 pm

    Boring blue bull rugby that worked 7 years ago, the springboks are so predictable, here is the blueprint how to beat them, it’s not rocket science. Slow down the phase play at the rucks, Mr McCaw, Pocock, any fetcher will do this, even the Argentinians did this, run the Morne Steyn channel quick ball to the wings and boom try after try after try, Australia even under rubbish Deans has a 5 from 6 winning ratio against the boks, nothing is going to change, same old again for another 4 years under Meyer. Zane Kircher, why play him, what does he actually do, nothing, what value does he bring to the marketplace.
    South Africa couldn’t even beat England in their own backyard in the final test in PE, I would rather watch a Springbok team that can change the way they play and loose, than watch this nonsense.

  • 406.Rhys7: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 18:03 pm

    Dont agree with Steyn being the best… he should have been replaced in the team 2 years ago. Peter Grant should have been given one chance with a full strength bok side to prove his worth as should Elton Jantjes get one this season. Steyn is part of a game plan but remember Peter Grant had the best percentage during super rugby yet still South African rugby supporters complain when the team doesn’t make the World Cup semi…what do you expect when you dont back players on form.

    Morne Steyn, Pierre Spies & Bryan Habana are key examples… Spies should have been overtaken in the bok no.8 pecking order by Duane Vermeulen in the 2010 / 2011 season.

    Morne Steyn has been off the rails for a few seasons and Bryan Habana kept his place only because of Peter De Villiers not backing Hougaard at wing for the boks and during that time Lwazi Mvovo had hardly played senior rugby.

    Now Hougi is struggling at scrum half

    Habana is in the best form since 2009

    Steyn has had one good game

    Spies hasn’t got his mojo back yet – because he’s playing an opposite game to what he should be,

    I believe in a coach backing a player but I also believe in a coach picking on form

    If the Boks were to pick on FORM this would be the starting XV

    15 Louis Ludik
    14 Gio Aplon
    13 JP Pietersen
    12 Francois Steyn
    11 Bryan Habana
    10 Peter Grant
    9 Ruan Pienaar
    8 Willem Alberts
    7 Marcell Coetzee
    6 Siya Kolisi
    5 Juandre Kruger
    4 Eben Estebeth
    3 Jannie du Plessis
    2 Deon Fourie
    1 Tendai Mtawarira

    That is why you cannot pick the player on form for every match and you must back some players.
    The problem I think most people have is that Morne Steyn has been inconsistent for so long had he been playing for any other nation he would have been dropped a long time ago.

    Now that whats done is done and the boks did not win the WC surely some must think what if they had given Pat Lambie, Elton Jantjes, Butch James or Peter Grant a chance or longer run in the bok 10 jersey.

    Now the bok coaches will not care. Steyn is supposedly back on form. We will see over the course of the championship.

    One thing that is certain is that Heyneke Meyer will not drop Steyn. He has shown no sign of it and even if Steyn was in the form he showed against England he still wouldn’t have dropped him.

    Unlucky for Peter Grant, Elton Jantjes & Pat Lambie

  • 407.touch.pause.engage: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 18:23 pm

    @Rhys7-406:

    Some vaild points.

  • 408.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 18:45 pm

    what exactly is ‘form’?

    Can you play one ‘okay’ game after a string of kak ones, then turn around and say you’re on ‘form’? :roll:

    low expectations!

  • 409.grant10: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 18:52 pm

    @Transformation-408: watching the Kings at 7? I assume Lukes playing?

  • 410.grant10: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 18:54 pm

    @Rhys7-406: good post

  • 411.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 19:17 pm

    @Tacitus-73: pretty optimistic to a) assume all those players will be back from injury and b) assume even more players won’t get injured.

  • 412.carol: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 21:21 pm

    Where is Percy?

    I miss his insight on Keo TV. ;-)

  • 413.daydreamer: Reply to this comment
    25 Aug 2012, 01:13 am

    Why not bash Morne Steyn? He is one dimensional – all the can do is place kick and drop kick well. His defence is always shown up and he can’t get a backline of SA’s best (in theory) players away to pose any threat to even mediocre opposition. Then when the only thing he has goinf for him – his kicking fails he is retained.

    For goodness sakes put Lambie at 10 (he is not a fullback, at least not a good one) and Pienaar at 9. Lets play to our full potential.

  • 414.johan kotze: Reply to this comment
    25 Aug 2012, 05:35 am

    Stop talking about players that will not be chosen ie kanko my team 1- beast 2 strauss 3 du plessis 4 ezebeth 5 bekker 6 coetzee 7 kolosi 8 alberts 9 pienaat 10 steyn till goosen is fit 11 mvovo 12 steyn 13 jean 14 hougaars 15 lambie 16 liebenberg 17 cilier 18 jeandre 19 daniels 20 sharks scrummie 21 janjies 22 taute

  • 415.xtremebull: Reply to this comment
    25 Aug 2012, 11:55 am

    No joking… All blacks gonna skin us alive!!!
    Taute and goosen need 2 b included in m22 agains them… Vermeulen need 2 b our 8th man… Cilliers have 2 start for penalty being narrowed out… Midfield have to dominate the backline…
    We have to be perfectly balanced in all facets of our play.

  • 416.W.P: Reply to this comment
    25 Aug 2012, 12:22 pm

    Its difficult to judge the Boks till they play the Wobblies and AB’s.

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