KeoTV: Stop Steyn bashing

KeoTV: Stop Steyn bashing

24 Aug 2012

MARK KEOHANE and RYAN VREDE agree that Morne Steyn is the best flyhalf we have in the context of what Heyneke Meyer wants to achieve with his game plan.

 


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  • 251.nama1: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:20 pm

    @John Galt-207:
    Botha asked to be released from his contract so that he can captain some team in Australia.

    Wasn’t it Robbie who kept us in the hunt during the CWC last year?

    With his bowling and his batting.

  • 252.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:20 pm

    @NZINCHINA-247: Yes… But we were undoubted Numero Uno in 2009… and undoubted World Champs in 2007…

    As comparison your ABs are definitely Numero Uno at present, but as deserved World Champs…? definitely doubted. :lol:

  • 253.shooter: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:21 pm

    @blik-237: LoL. Didn’t think about that. I’m sure if he can learn then to tackle like a machine…. Or be told to. At least they’re fast in the right way.

  • 254.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:21 pm

    Is anyone looking forward to the next SA v Aus game? Revenge is sweet. I think there will be some sore bodies that day.

  • 255.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:23 pm

    @shooter-253: I do agree Willie Roux is a talented player. Very good on attack and lots of skill, something we need more of in SA. But eeds to work on his defence if he wants to be spoken of in Springbok terms.

  • 256.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:25 pm

    @Heavens Game-252:

    yip you were very good for the first half of 09′ and deserved to be ranked number 1 but that wasn’t the argument was it

  • 257.nama1: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:28 pm

    @Heavens Game-241:
    Surely the Sharks played the Crusaders at Twickenham last year (2011).

    From memory the Sharks were fucked up royally that day. The term “scrum tsunami” started to make waves (pun intended) around these parts after that match.

    :lol:

  • 258.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:28 pm

    @Heavens Game-241:
    So what happened in 2008, 2010 and 2011??
    Point is you were saying that we were not #1 in 2009. But seems not only me that thinks you are wrong but so does the IRB.
    Dont get all angry dude.
    2009 wasnt not all great for the Boks. You seemed to have forgotten you lost to:
    Leicester tigers
    France
    Saracens
    Ireland

    Now this is where you lost the short but sweet # 1 ranking.
    Funny you still claim the Barbarians win as South Africas, lol.

  • 259.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:29 pm

    Grant10

    by all means, throw Goosen in against us this year… it could very well scar him to the point of most Bokke players whereby they fear the men in black..

    Let him build his confidence in TEST match rugby against the NH teams, talent like his needs to be nurtured and given ample time to develop..

    the boy hasnt even played one full season of Super rugby

    you run the risk of shattering his confidence and creating another Ruan pienaar

    but by all means, play him against the ABs this year, please…

  • 260.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:29 pm

    @NZINCHINA-256: What was the argument again?

    That the Boks were so goddamned more superior to the ABs in 2009 that the IRB had to change the laws in order for parity to be restored…?

  • 261.Blitzbok: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:29 pm

    @sharks_lover-244: hahahhahahah!!! at least i was raised buddy boy. better than being dragged up by ******* like you were XD

  • 262.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:30 pm

    @Transformation-246:
    haha thats him. Kobus Kitty…… how could i forget

  • 263.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:31 pm

    @Heavens Game-260: perhaps… the fact NZ lost many experienced players and had to call on someone like Ross seems lost on you..

    do you remember the WC’s getting nilled at home in 2008? or then getting whitewashed in 2010?

    or losing the last 6 out of 7 games versus the Aussies?

  • 264.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:32 pm

    @Heavens Game-260:
    Argument was that you said the ABs were no higher than # 3 in 2009.
    Thanks to the interent you were way off the mark but now trying to squirm your way out of it.
    Its ok, we proved you were wrong so lets not worry about it.

  • 265.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:32 pm

    @Heavens Game-260: Funny how whenever the Boks do well, there is a law change by the IRB. Remember 95 too.

  • 266.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:33 pm

    @nama1-251:
    Oh so now you a Robbie P supporter. :lol:

    To close to call between the two players. So in terms of “numbers” I’d put Robbie ahead of Botha.

  • 267.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:34 pm

    @Hurricane-258: Those losses were Bok charity… Gimmes.

    Soon after a loss to Leicester, its funny how the Baa Baa Boks were good enough to farken destroy the ABs at Twickenham…

    Sheez I still remember puffing, red faced Reechie the “Legend” embarrassingly being left for dead by Habanero running in his hat trick :lol:

  • 268.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:34 pm

    well, this thread is about to degenerate into another “conspiracy” special..

    awesome :lol:

  • 269.Blitzbok: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:34 pm

    @poppa69-259: its a classic case of overhyping a player. goosen had a good season in a lot of ways but the success of the cheetahs mostly comes to the backline coach and how the whole team were used. they had their forwards play the ball a lot more than other saffer teams and when i say that i mean they werent just bashers. it was more like you see those kiwis doing things. interestingly goosen and robert ebersoh were the two two worst defenders in the backline and i think thats something to be very wary of. but hey every season saffers jump the gun and overhype a player with expectations they can never live up to. he needs to be given a chance but he is never going to be a larkham and even if he was that still isnt enough to create a lot more tries. saffers basically want the boks to play like the 2011 brumbies… have a real flair 10 but everything has to be done by him alone. greeeeeat stuff… NOT!

  • 270.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:35 pm

    @blik-265:
    So has there only been 3 changes in the last 15 years??
    Not too bad really.

  • 271.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:35 pm

    heheh Hg, claiming a baabaas game as a SA win..

    how desperate can one get, I understand though, only seeing your beloved Bokke win 12 games in the last 20 years against us does that to people..

  • 272.katman: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:37 pm

    @poppa69-268: This thread degenerated when it stepped in a pile of you. Looks like one of those shoes you’re better off just throwing away, to be honest.

  • 273.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:37 pm

    @poppa69-263: Naah, not so well… But I do remember 2009 vividly… Fark that was a good year… A great year… :lol:

  • 274.Blitzbok: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:39 pm

    @poppa69-271: or new zealand buying a world cup and calling themselves world champs!!! hahahahaha what a bunch of anal waste.

  • 275.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:39 pm

    @Heavens Game-267:
    Yep, wasnt that when Habana was passed the ball??
    reasons as to why he is and was alwasy wasted in the Bok team.
    And if you think the EOTY games are charity matches, may suggest the #3 placing you are at now.
    Strtange but i cant remember you saying ” Dont worry my feloow Keo bloggers, these were only charity matches, we can lose these “.
    This is the HG i know
    ” WHAT, IRB CHEATS, REFS FAULT…..THATS IT I AM NOT BLOGGING FOR 2 WEEKS NOW ”

    HGM
    Heavens Gone Missing

  • 276.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:39 pm

    @Blitzbok-269: I think the boy can really be a good un, but as you say he is no where near the finished article, yet..

    he is what 20 years old (dont know so asking?) , he still has so much time to grow and mature as a player, but some here want to throw him in the deep end and see if he can sink or swim? could be a monumental waste of a raw talent..

    I’ll use a diamond as an analogy, they are never found as pure and brilliant, they have to be cut and polished and shaped until they become the finished article, so too it is with Goosen imho..

  • 277.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:39 pm

    @Hurricane-264: Hey, Hurricunt, dont you tell me what my argument was or wasn’t… You aint ONeill, this aint Sanzar and I aint SARU, yeah?

  • 278.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:39 pm

    @poppa69-271:
    One of that 12 (1995 final) is worth another ten.
    :lol:

  • 279.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:40 pm

    @katman-272: oooooh hilarious, what a wonderful wit you have? too farken funny you are..

    i bet even your kids laugh at you…oops. meant with you

  • 280.Blitzbok: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:40 pm

    @Heavens Game-273: it was so good that nw zealand had the laws changed for 2010 and then bought the world cup! bwahahahahaha yep they saw the righting on the wall in 2009.

  • 281.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:41 pm

    @Heavens Game-267:
    “Soon after a loss to Leicester”

    hahaha after the Leicester loss came the Saracens, France and Ireland.
    But dont worry about those games, as long as your South African Baabaas did well.

  • 282.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:41 pm

    @Jeraldjay-278: and there it is in a nutshell, SA supporter thinking WC is all that matters :wink:

    it explains why you guys are always playing catch up with the Australasians :D

  • 283.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:41 pm

    @poppa69-271: 3 duck in one year would be pretty farken outstanding if it was only against Wales… But in 2009 it was against the ABs…

    Signed
    Sealed
    Delivered

    Fckface :lol:

  • 284.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:43 pm

    @Heavens Game-283: Id much prefer the 27 wins to 12 myself..

    it has a look of dominance over two decades..

    but you be happy with your 3 wins, i know they were so hard to come by and that you got a 1/4 of your wins in 20 years in one year..

    must have made for lean times the other 19 years

    P.S how is France this time of year? did you have any black and white fizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • 285.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:43 pm

    @Hurricane-281: I also remember Bushpig Januarie outsprinting Mascara Nonu to score under the poles in Dunedin… Fark, now that is embarrassing :lol:

  • 286.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:45 pm

    @Heavens Game-277:
    Dichead, you asked what the argument was about.
    I just posted it. I can see you are getting all a bit flustered.

  • 287.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:46 pm

    @Heavens Game-285:
    Yep, he alone won that game for you guys cos no one in your team could do it…… now that is embarrasing.

  • 288.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:47 pm

    @poppa69-282:
    That wound will never heal. The greatest AB team ever couldn’t live up to their expectations.

    And by the way the Boks won our last encounter…..

  • 289.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:47 pm

    @poppa69-284:

    so 3 wins in 2009, take that year away, that means you guys averaged 1 win against the ABs every two years? farken hell

    its no wonder the younger kiwi generation rate games against the Aussies as the ultimate..

    they just have never known SA to be good at rugby :wink:

  • 290.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:47 pm

    @Blitzbok-280:
    “yep they saw the righting on the wall in 2009″

    Yep, or was it the lefting on the wall?

  • 291.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:47 pm

    @poppa69-284: Not just 3 wins… It was 3 wins to 0… Duck… Maqanda… Zero… Thats the difference.

    And then followed by convenient law changes…

    Not sure about France now, but even France has been a happier place than Blues country this year…

    Sharks country is very happy… Super Rugby finalists this year, only beaten by 120000 km round trip.

  • 292.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:49 pm

    @Jeraldjay-288: yeah, but you can have 1995, the 1996 team proved that there was definitely something amiss at that WC.. :mrgreen:

    again, like 2007, it seems you guys cant live up to the mantle of WC’s, getting nilled in 2008 and losing a home series in 1996..

  • 293.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:49 pm

    @Hurricane-287: Nope… wrong… the team gave him space… and he needed much space too… And then he went… and won the game like the good little world champ and no 1 ranked team member he was at the time… :lol:

  • 294.John Galt: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:49 pm

    @nama1-251:

    Yeah, ‘asked’ to be released.

    Not surpirsing because he wasnt getting game time becasue Peterson was there. And we all know why he was there.

    Air punchingly average Peterson.

  • 295.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:50 pm

    @Heavens Game-283: Personally, I count it as 4-0 in 2009…

  • 296.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:50 pm

    @Heavens Game-291: so, you guys were first losers this year? how many super titles have you? the blues have 3..

    how many super titles have you lost?

    5 now is it.

    cough cough choke choke..

  • 297.Skeppie: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:50 pm

    @Hurricane-217: Hurricane, hows things your side?

  • 298.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:51 pm

    @Hurricane-286: No… It was my argument… Now come closer…

    Take a Whiff…
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    STFU

  • 299.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:51 pm

    @Heavens Game-291:
    Same Chiefs team beat you at home.
    Oh and the Hurricanes thrashed you at home as well .
    :-)

  • 300.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:52 pm

    @willievz-295: of course you count it Willie, it makes it 13 wins in 20 years..

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