KeoTV: Stop Steyn bashing

KeoTV: Stop Steyn bashing

24 Aug 2012

MARK KEOHANE and RYAN VREDE agree that Morne Steyn is the best flyhalf we have in the context of what Heyneke Meyer wants to achieve with his game plan.

 


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  • 301.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:52 pm

    @willievz-295: I thought I missed one out… It was 4 hey?

    3 in 3N and 1 at Twickers… Beyootiful :lol:

  • 302.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:53 pm

    @Heavens Game-293:
    When was the last time habana scored 3 against the ABs?
    How about 2?
    But if you think the Boks give Habana over the years space and ball……lol what game have you really watched?

  • 303.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:55 pm

    @Hurricane-299: Only because the Chiefs ref conveniently forgot to send off… lets say about 3 or 4 Chiefs players… for offences ranging from high tackles through to GBH and attempted murder…

    Farken filthy swines.

    Dont worry… 2013 is the year of the Dynamite.

    Signed. Sealed and Delivered. :lol:

  • 304.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:55 pm

    @willievz-295:
    So can we count the Ozzies wins as well?? The coach and their best # 10 are kiwis.
    4-0 does not seem that much now does it?

  • 305.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:55 pm

    @poppa69-292: pops, if you are pointing out that a year later a team gets beaten means they did not deserve to win the year before. Please can you explain your logic?

    If that made sense, the NZ Cavliers got drilled in 86, but the ABs won the WC in 87. Different results. I just don’t get your logic??

  • 306.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:56 pm

    @Heavens Game-301: yep, you enjoy that 4..

    but you know what, it is still only half the amount of Wins NZ had a few years previously..

    2004 Tri Nations Series
    24 July 2004 Jade Stadium, Christchurch 23 – 21 New Zealand
    9 November 2003 Telstra Dome, Melbourne 29 – 9 New Zealand 2003 Rugby World Cup
    9 August 2003 Carisbrook, Dunedin, 19 – 11 New Zealand 2003 Tri Nations Series
    19 July 2003 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria 16 – 52 New Zealand
    10 August 2002 Kings Park Stadium, Durban 23 – 30 New Zealand 2002 Tri Nations Series
    20 July 2002 WestpacTrust Stadium, Wellington 41 – 20 New Zealand
    25 August 2001 Eden Park, Auckland 26 – 15 New Zealand 2001 Tri Nations Series
    21 July 2001 Newlands, Cape Town 3 – 12 New Zealand

    8 on the trot…

    hahahaha and youre getting excited about 4??

    :lol:

    vatso katvis..

  • 307.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:56 pm

    @Skeppie-297:
    Hey Skeppie, all is good over here mate.
    Just listening to a bit of
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqwv0qZleUA

  • 308.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:57 pm

    @Hurricane-304:

    Your best #10 in the late 90s was from Durban…

  • 309.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:58 pm

    @blik-305: no, Im saying if 2011 was rigged, so was 95… especially because of how it was for reasons greater than the game…

    the proof was when a fully fit AB team in 1996 took the series in SA, really raises concerns about the legitimacy of 95 doesnt it?

  • 310.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:58 pm

    @Hurricane-302: Yeah… maybe… I suppose its similar to asking when last did Kevvy throw a lineout ball straight, or an AB back not pass the ball forward….

    One of the peculiarities of this great game, eh?

    :lol:

  • 311.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:58 pm

    @blik-305:
    9 players that played in the Final in 1987 RWC were not included in the Cavaliers.
    But another point is that the RWC was in Ozzie and NZ. Dont think the boks could win
    without there refs and at home.

  • 312.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:59 pm

    @poppa69-309: add in gold watches, sweeping water off the field so the game could even take place because the host nation would not have progressed, Benazzi etc..

    lots of doubts cast…

  • 313.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 13:59 pm

    @blik-305: No WC in 87.

  • 314.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:01 pm

    @poppa69-300:
    I see you excluding the 1981 tour.

    That last game was a farce…… fark. Even Bryce would be digusted.

  • 315.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:01 pm

    @Hurricane-311: We also did not play our talented non-whites in the 80s.

    So we did not play our strongest team either.

  • 316.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:01 pm

    @poppa69-306: Lies, damn lies and statistics… never confuse numbers with truth, hey… And truth is always relative…

    e.g ABs did win RWC 2011, but the truth is that France were better in the final and they had the best player on the planet playing for them… Thierry Dusautoir.

    Vatso Mamparra :lol:

  • 317.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:01 pm

    @willievz-308: really clutching now Willie..
    he learnt and played all his rugby in NZ..

    Mehrtens’ parents lived in South Africa for four years from 1970 and returned to New Zealand when he was still a young child. Mehrtens grew up in Christchurch, attended Christchurch Boys’ High School, and played Junior Grade Rugby for Kaiapoi. He also represented New Zealand at under-19 and under-21 levels.

  • 318.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:01 pm

    @willievz-308:
    One of the lucky ones to escape.

    @Heavens Game-310:
    Yep, you could say that, or last time a bok was not 2 meters offside in the backs, as you say one of the strange things that makes this game.

  • 319.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:03 pm

    @poppa69-309: How does that figure? The ABs won the series 2-1, I remember the ABs defeded their line for about 10 to secure the win in a very close match. The 95 RWC final was a very close match too, so not much changed really. Often wins are only by a small margin.

    I don’t buy the food poison story, Laurie mains also used the same excuse when Australia won the bledisloe cup the year Greegan tackled Jeff Wilson in the corner going over for the try to win the game. There is only so many times you can call wolf before no one believes it any more.

    Granted, NZ have had the best rugby over the past 20 years, I think most people agree. But you have to agree that some of the officiating at the RWC11 was very suspicious.

  • 320.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:03 pm

    @Jeraldjay-314: I know, imagine a NEUTRAL REF adding time on for a player being felled by a flour bomb… sickening really, it should only have been a minutes extra time at most, seeing as the game didnt really stop for long :shock:

  • 321.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:05 pm

    @willievz-315: Neither did SA ;) 40 million to choose from

  • 322.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:06 pm

    We actually did well on the 81 tour, considering we had to sleep on dressing room floors before games, amongst other things…

  • 323.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:06 pm

    @blik-321: That’s what I said ;)

  • 324.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:07 pm

    @poppa69-320:
    Hope you grateful for a Saffa ref handing you the 2011 title.

  • 325.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:07 pm

    @willievz-315:
    :-)
    And really whose fault is that?
    We didnt tour SA with our strongest teams as well if you want to go down that road.
    But that was not only SARU fault but was also our coward NZRU for listening.
    Such a shame that so much has got in the way of both teams playing their best players in the past.
    Of course these days NZ play our best player….or what the coach thinks is our best players, we all know sometimes they pick in correctly. But SA on the othe hand may never be able to pick their best team….. just awful but i will put my Kiwi glasses on now and i think thats great :-)

  • 326.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:08 pm

    Kiwis tend to forget that we did not pick any non-white players when we played against them.

  • 327.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:08 pm

    @blik-319: I dont buy the whole Susie story either, but you have to admit the ABs were not right in the final, and still only lost in extra time.. I rate the 96 series as NZs greatest rugby moment, well over any knock out tournament trophy..

    your cry wolf theory, please enlighten some of your brethren, because they seem to conitunally cry conspiracy when the ABs win..

    do tell me, you thought the officiating in 2011 was bad, what about in 2007? becuase the consensus here is that it was by far the best reffed game in the history of rugby, and that it was only one forward pass..

    strange really, because many here comment on NZ offsides and the like, yet the French had less ball and territory then the Aussies did and were only penalised twice the entire game, not once in the second half? man, did so many here dine out on that for four years, now they cry wolf when their team copped something similar..

  • 328.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:08 pm

    @Hurricane-325: “Such a shame that so much has got in the way of both teams playing their best players in the past.”

    Absolutely.

  • 329.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:10 pm

    @Heavens Game-316:
    How many times has the better team lost?
    I know it happens alot.

  • 330.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:10 pm

    @Jeraldjay-324: yep, I’d buy Craig a beer any time anywhere..

    not often I like Saffas, but he seems to be a genuinely nice one :D

  • 331.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:11 pm

    @willievz-313:
    Correct, not for you South Africans, No RWC for naughty people.

  • 332.Skeppie: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:11 pm

    @Hurricane-307: Quality quality quality!

  • 333.Skeppie: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:12 pm

    @poppa69-330: Aww go on Pops…..secretly you love us saffa’s!

  • 334.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:13 pm

    @willievz-326:
    lol
    I dont forget. we know SA is an untapped source for players. But we cant help you wiht that.
    But do you guys realise we could not send some of the best Maoris players that played the game?
    So both unions were to blame……shame on them

  • 335.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:14 pm

    @Jeraldjay-314: Norling and Lawrence… Two names for infamy… Two names who will be forever damned in rugby purgatory… Never ever to officiate any great game played in the after life…

    Here’s the HG in Heaven two teams playing for eternity when I eventually spread my angelic wings and meet my maker….

    15 Juba
    14 JPP
    13 Gerber
    12 Steyn
    11 Mordt
    10 Honiball
    9 Joost
    8. Teich
    7 Venter
    6 Kruger
    5. Matfield
    4. Andrews
    3. Domkrag
    2. Uli
    1 Os

    VS

    15 Cullen
    14. Kirwan
    13 Bunce
    12 Little
    11 Lomu
    10. DC
    9. Marshall
    8 Buck
    7 Reechie
    6 Jones
    5 Jones
    4. Thorne
    3. Brown
    2. Fitz
    1. Dowd

    Reffed by J.esus himself.

    Then we see who’s who in the zoo

  • 336.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:15 pm

    @poppa69-327: I can’t access youtube because I am at work, but have a quick search for an interview with murray mexted after that game. You know which one I am talking about? I think it was 93 or 94. Close game where goldie lost the ball over the line in a greagen tackle.

    Mexted and Mains are saying taht the Aussie team poisoned the ABs.

  • 337.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:16 pm

    @Hurricane-334: Im just glad all kiwis can get visas to SA these days, it seems to be “honouring” the rivalry :wink:

  • 338.willievz: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:16 pm

    @Hurricane-331: I couldn’t care less, I was 6 years old at the time.

    But the NZ public will always live with that chip on the shoulder, and the little voice that says “what if”…

  • 339.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:16 pm

    @Hurricane-329: In RWCs? Just twice… Last year… once in the QF and once in the final… Never before :lol:

  • 340.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:17 pm

    @poppa69-327: I am worried, and I really hope it’s not the case. But I do think there is an element of bias in officiating. I am not talking about the influence a crowed has over a ref, that’s normal and evens out over time. Butthere is sometimes an underhand guiding proceedings. Cricket was found out, some other sports too, why not rugby?

  • 341.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:19 pm

    @blik-336: I remember the game and the tackle, but if you are going to take Mexteds word for it then i cant help you sorry… I know Saffas seem to gravitate towards the Mex, probably because he married a Saffa lass and all, I guess he just knows how to pander to the republic :wink:

    as for Mains, was always a sour git when he lost so no surprises there, its like PDV complaining about “better NZ won becuase they have a WC next year and have to put bums on seats”

    still, I think Mr Luyt tops them all though..

  • 342.blik: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:21 pm

    @poppa69-341: Yep you get some idiotic officials. It would be nice if things could be ideal.

  • 343.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:21 pm

    @willievz-338:
    Nope, no chip on my shoulder about the 1987 RWC.
    The best international playing teams in the world were there.
    The chip should be yours mate and the what ifs should be you saying…..what if we as South Africans did things differently.

  • 344.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:21 pm

    @poppa69-341: Mex is a Shark… A Legend… Like Plum… Sharkie thru and thru

  • 345.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:22 pm

    @Heavens Game-339:
    I recall 1995 the best team lost the RWC final but we all know what happened there dont we.
    :-)

  • 346.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:23 pm

    @blik-340: agreed, I think the tier two nations cop the worst of it… Samoa in 2011 for example? also 99 I think it was when POB screwed Fiji over against France if memories correct..

    Look At Rolland, in 2009 he penalised the AB scrumhalf for a crooked feed, how often do we see those penalties in the modern game? the Aussies still probably get pinged unfairly becuase the perception is they have a weak scrum…

  • 347.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:23 pm

    @Skeppie-332:
    :-)
    Thought you would like that Skeppie, Alice in Chains just the best.

  • 348.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:24 pm

    @Heavens Game-344:
    Is that the same Plum that was supposed to have been kicked out of the Sharks in the early stages of the Super 15?

  • 349.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:25 pm

    @Heavens Game-344: yeah I know mate, I knew youd come round to us kiwis once they got your team playing proper rugby..

    no need to thank us though mate, we can feel the admiration in your words…

    claiming kiwis as your own? never thought Id see the day..

    vatso koeksuster

  • 350.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    24 Aug 2012, 14:26 pm

    @poppa69-341:
    I’m glad you said Mr. Luyt. Be careful he might hear.

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