Jake hammers Heyneke
30 Aug 2012
Jake White says Heyneke Meyer’s game plan for the Springboks is not a winning one.
The Brumbies mentor was speaking at a fundraiser at Emperors Palace in Kempton Park, according to Die Burger.
‘Heyneke’s coaching style is not a style that will help the Boks to win,’ said White. ‘If you can’t score at least four tries against Argentina, then there is a big problem.’
White said Meyer’s long stint with the Bulls had inevitably influenced his approach at Test level.
‘Heyneke was always going to get criticism because of his background with the Bulls. He was chosen as [Bok] coach because of the success he achieved as Bulls coach and it will naturally play a role in the way he coaches the Boks.’
White said that the more pressure Meyer was put under, the more he would revert to what worked for him at the Bulls.
‘If, for example, he must choose between Gio Aplon and Zane Kirchner, he will choose Kirchner every time,’ he said.
Meanwhile, former Bok captain Bob Skinstad reportedly described Meyer as a ‘dictator’, adding that ‘you can see during the match how he has told the players exactly what to do. They must learn to adapt.’
However, Skinstad later tweeted that he had not used the word ‘dictator’.
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30 Aug 2012, 19:16 pm
@victoriabok-696: Ja, big Steve was a bit of a brawler… But fark me not the brightest spark….
Now that 95 World Cup final was a final of finals…
Probably the best team never to win vs the farken gutsiest, toughest team around… Combine the two teams and you get a team for the ages that probably would never lose against any combo of teams from any other RWC final ever played…. Take on allcomers
I actually challenge any team made up of any RWC finalists that is better than the set of legends in this combo:
FB 15 Andre Joubert
RW 14 Jeff Wilson
OC 13 Frank Bunce
IC 12 Walter Little
LW 11 Jonah Lomu
FH 10 Andrew Mehrtens
SH 9 Joost
N8 8 Zinzan Brooke
OF 7 Josh Kronfeld
BF 6 Ruben Kruger
RL 5 Mark Andrews
LL 4 Kobus Wiese
TP 3 Olo Brown
HK 2 Sean Fitzpatrick
LP 1 Os Du Randt
Replacements:
Ian Jones
Craig Dowd
Francois Pienaar
Richard Loe
Hennie Le Roux
Norm Hewitt
Graeme Bachop
30 Aug 2012, 19:16 pm
@Puma-651:
why do you continue to be so polite and civilised with these troll idiots?
nice to see that dawn’s hero has arrived!
30 Aug 2012, 19:17 pm
@nama1-697:
> The boys being the 1995 pack of forwards of course
Ruil Rossouw vir Dalton dan praat ons weer
30 Aug 2012, 19:23 pm
Jake the fake is the biggest arsewipe rugby wise on the planet… yet you get some doose still thinking the sun oozes from out his overrated backside
I take HM with all his angst and insecurity and problematic self assurance need and anxiety over that pitiful little two faced prick any day of any week.
Meyer made some BIG fckups with his first few squad choices and his over reliance on familiarity and preconditioned immutable expectations.. but Meyer will learn because Meyer got FAR more room in his kop to allow some humility into his fear ridden soul..
But that Jake Fake piece of work still dunno the first thing about
1. what makes a good rugby coach from a poor one .. and
2. what makes a decent human being from a two faced piece of self aggrandized arsehole deluxe.
as for HG the so called Kenner over here..
Yup I always 3 steps ahead of you ‘bra’ .. I told you HM was gonna bomb in Mendoza because he was rowing his frail canoe upstream against the current..
same as I told you PdV would smack Ireland and Wales and England on Eoyt 2010 because your fuckup beloved Barney the goddamn overrated hump of f’ng LARDASS wasn’t there to stuff it all up.. to your absolute amazement, chagrin and disbelief…
same as I TOLD you PdV was gonna BLOW that quarter final vs Aussie due to EXACTLY the same f’ng hump of overrated LARDASS garbage weighing him DOWN… which you didn’t wanna believe either
and like I told you HM was gonna BLOW it carrying your overhyped sharkshit brethren as his first port of call in the Bok front row and back row with Potgieter as his haymaker blow up doll….
In fact every time I’m 3 step ahead of you it takes you a whole 3 days to digest you fckup expectations that went wrong and then you come Bolshevik in here like you ‘knew’ what was cutting all along…
Now he’s singing the Goose is cooked song and dance routine and Vet Vermeulen ain’t fit to tie his beloved Keegans pony tail ribbons
or the Bok fckup is down to Hougaard at 9 or De Villiers at 13
when the SOURCE of the problem rests with the weak pissarse pack and the mismatched bunch of overrated Sharkshitbulls fcking up the works…
30 Aug 2012, 19:26 pm
@nama1-697: @willievz-700: You okes welcome to your opinion but I tell you what… look at the one player in common to both packs… Os of 1995 was twice the player he was in 2007… He had to be… Because 1995 had a pack full of hard men who made a whole greater than the sum of their parts…
I reckon, other than Os only two other players from 2007 could possibly have played in 1995… Barney and maybe Matfield. Thats all.
Yup, men and boys truly.
30 Aug 2012, 19:34 pm
Lambie pambie is so f’ng overrated it just ain’t funny
and some here wanna go the mediocre route
as long as they all sharkshits
Beast Strauss JdP / Cilliers
Etzebeth Bekker / Vd Merwe
Coetsee Potgieter / Daniel
Alberts
and they STILL wanna cry about all their spilled milk
that was the lot that got CREAMED by the no name amateur Argies in the Andes just the other day
and guess what they were predominantly SHARKSHITS..
next they wanna draft Pienaar into 9 and Lambie into 10
Steyn and JPP at center
and why not go the whole hog and play Mvovo, Ndungane and Ludick or Viljoen
Then you may as well roll up folks and watch the AB’s send you into oblivion
same way the Chiefs stuffed that overrated bunch of hopeless pathetic sharkshits from here to kingdom come
30 Aug 2012, 19:37 pm
@fitz1ella-704: The only three steps you got is a three steps in every direction… arguing about every possible outcome… and then when the actual time comes and the actual deed is done or match is played then you’ve managed to cover every base in your pre-ejaculated forethought… leading to the inevitable “I told you so”….
Fark, its actually quite clever if it wasn’t so tiresomely pointless…
I mean take this next game against the Wallabies… Come 8pm on Wednesday next week – you will argue the fck out of how Aus are going to take Holy Genade Heyneke’s team apart….
Then come Thursday 8pm and after your hotflush hormone spike, there you will be arguing how angsty Heynekes team going to blow the Wobblies right out of the Tasman bath water….
Finally after the game is actually played on Sat, you then will proceed to tell the world “I told you so” when whichever farken team wins…
Pointless I tell you and slightly like a cowardly running cur dog, who dont know which way to run or which side to pick…
Yup, like Old Yeller for sure…
30 Aug 2012, 19:39 pm
Yo Blitzbok!
Tell us about Lambie!
30 Aug 2012, 19:39 pm
@nama1-697: @willievz-700: same, iimo as individuals they were more talented, back five world class and one of the greatest captains in the front row.
30 Aug 2012, 19:40 pm
@Heavens Game-705:
Schalk ahead of Pienaar
Juan vs Ruben is very close but Juan maybe just edge it because of his line out work.
Rossouw ahead of Andrews (at 8)
So combined, it may look like this.
1. Os
2. John Smit
3. Balie
4. Andrews
5. Matfield
6. Schalk
7. Juan/Kruger (very close here)
8. Rossouw
30 Aug 2012, 19:46 pm
@nama1-710: Madness… Nobody ahead of Kruger… Nobody, hear me!!?
Maybe Schalk at his very best over Pienaar… but Schalk was not his very best in 2007… Thats for damn sure.
And Rossouw, as big and strong as he was, got nothing on what Andrews had to face on that day in 1995…
Andrews vs Zinzan… Rossouw vs farken who? Nick farken Easter…. Thats who… Now dont make me laugh any more.
30 Aug 2012, 19:47 pm
Barney was the worst hooker ever to come out of bananarama land
and the weakest bok captain of ALL time
If ANY Bok captain would LOSE the way that overrated hump of f’ng LARDASS LOST through 2010 – 2011
13 from 16 tests then you gotta know he gotta be the absolute worst Bok captain of all time.
Barney don’t tie Uli Schmidt or Bismarks shoe laces as far as hooker goes
and as far as captaincy goes he got sweet f’all on Francoise Pienaar, Morne Dup, even Gary Teichmann or Dawie de Villiers and Divan Serfontein
30 Aug 2012, 19:50 pm
@nama1-646: well you cant argue?? \thats one farking fantastic team
30 Aug 2012, 19:52 pm
@fitz1ella-712: i got 3 words for you!
blah blah blah
30 Aug 2012, 19:54 pm
@Heavens Game-707: bullshit I get it right every time you get it so f’ng wrong
I’m ALWAYS 3 or maybe 5 steps ahead of you sonny
I read the setup while you dream your dreams of sharkshit Valhalla emerging
I told you Heyneke was gonna BLOW it with that fckup mediocre sharkshit setup and with Potgieter at 7
Now Heyneke is learning the lesson the hard way and correcting his blatant faults
I always 3 steps ahead of you son.. same as I was on eoyt 2010 same as I was at RWC 2011 and same as I’m always telling you how it been blowing, you better start listening how it about to unfold then you get the gist of whats actually going down…
30 Aug 2012, 19:55 pm
@Heavens Game-711:
It’s not who he had to face. It’s what could offer.
Rossouw offered much, much more at 8 than Andrews.
Even not at his very best, Schalk was still better than Pienaar at his very best…and Pienaar was no moegoe himself…That’s for damn sure.
30 Aug 2012, 19:55 pm
@fitz1ella-712: Come now… Barney is without doubt one of the best hookers of all time… He stands tall in a pantheon including Fitzpatrick, Uli, Keith Wood, Phil Kearns, Mealamu etc… He has been inducted into the IRB Hall of fame and the most capped Bok in rugby history…
Say what…?
Mad as a farken Hatter in Alice’s LSD Wonderland I tell you…
30 Aug 2012, 19:55 pm
@sharks_lover-714: and I got 4 for you sharkshit
you a tossbox deluxe
30 Aug 2012, 19:58 pm
@sharks_lover-713:
I knew you would love it.
30 Aug 2012, 19:59 pm
@nama1-716: You dreaming my boy… Clearly… Andrews definitely offered more than two steps on the run than two step Danie any day of the week at lock or 8… And he didi it against possibly the best 8 in the history of the game in the best RWC final the world will ever see…
Nope, Schalk of 2007 not near Pienaar of 1995… Simple. Feeneesh and Klaar
30 Aug 2012, 20:02 pm
@Heavens Game-707: how you pre considering what I going to suggest regarding Boks – Wallabies
Boks got a big chance and I’ll check how Heyneke sets his stall before the showdown
I told you Heyneke was going to Blow vs Argies.. it was looming thick and fast and you sleepwalkers walked smack bang into it
I told you we were going to BLOW vs Aussies in the 1/4 final.. it was looming with that fatfck deluxe fcking up the WORX…
God some you morons are emaciated blind..
You wanted that fatfunk piece of lardass to lift Bill TWICE
It were NEVER gonna happen in a thousand years of wet dreams.. NEVER forever.. how pitiful is your grandeur expectations deluxe..
30 Aug 2012, 20:03 pm
@fitz1ella-715: 3 steps in all directions, eh Old Yeller?
Back all sides followed by a “told you so” posthaste….
Me, I actually got the dogsbollocks to pick a side and have the courage of my sometimes fanciful convictions… But conviction I do have nevertheless…
You and me are different that way, thats for sure.
30 Aug 2012, 20:08 pm
@Heavens Game-722: CRAPPEDY DO
go back check what I warned you schmuckaluck
go pull it apart who I backed and who I didn’t
You got it WRONG.. every time I got it right
how THAT work out.. you backed the WRONGun and I backed the right one when push actually came to shove… not once.. not twice.. how many times already.. own it UP..
30 Aug 2012, 20:16 pm
bananarama
oh skop
30 Aug 2012, 20:17 pm
@fitz1ella-723: Now I reckon you fcking the cat while throwing the bathtub right out with the bathwater…
You back everyone… Both sides… Then you get it “right”….
Now sometimes I am wrong… not often, granted but I definitely can be wrong…
How many times you been wrong?
Never, yes?
Hmmm, maybe this humble poster may be making a valid point, hey?
Now, go think about it… Chew a mushroom or tuber or summink to help your grey matter along the way, if you must.
30 Aug 2012, 20:18 pm
Francois Pienaar, Dawie de Villiers, Morne Dup, Divan Serfontein, even Wynand Claasen, Jannie Breedt, Gary Teichman
these were CAPTAINS that bled for the TEAM ideal first and their own hyped up vainglorious fckup expectations a distant 3rd
UNLIKE that piece of garbage fatfunck deluxe self centered twat who FCKD the Boks up his overrated lardarse while he tried for immortality as the biggest f’ng bumbler wobbly cheese to ever waddle down the exit tunnel
30 Aug 2012, 20:23 pm
@Heavens Game-725: who I BACK last weekend.. go read all about it on all the setup threads
who I back when PdV’s team led by Matfield NOT your fatfunk piece of overrated lardass in 2010 Eoyt led them to WINS when you called LOSSES
Same as I backed Matfield vs NZ in PE when Smit the CANCER was absent..!!!
Who I back when Smit couldn’t get the FCK out the way which fck’d PdV’s WC dream team out the water with Smit and his f’ng lunacy immortality delusions of grandeur f’ng up the goddamn works..
Who did I back.. EVERY time you got it wrong.. when I read the score the right way up??
30 Aug 2012, 20:23 pm
Woohoo!
Forget Blitzbok!
30 Aug 2012, 20:26 pm
@fitz1ella-726: Best Captains ever of the Boks in this order…
1. Pienaar – the 45 million man… The Apple of Madiba’s eye
2. Barney – longevity, success, loyalty to the Boks above and beyond… Converted to tighthead on the whim of a Midget Madman Coach…
3. Teichmann – consecutive test win world record leader
4. Bedford – Leader of conscience
5. Morne Du Plessis – Leader extraordinaire
Men amongst men… Leaders of men… They all stood for something greater than themselves…
30 Aug 2012, 20:28 pm
Now I’m getting all tearful.
30 Aug 2012, 20:28 pm
@fitz1ella-726: I might be a tosbox, but i tell you this, you are thicker than pigshit, i mean you really dont have a clue, you sit here slating anything like a 1 year old space invader ****** on roids, the most hillarious thing of all is you in ur own corky way truelly believe ur this genius kenner??
Holy **** dude, you keep telling us how **** certain players are yet they have achieved more then most in world rugby??? now clearly you are that stupid, or ur arrogance has no ending that you reaLLy thiny Skopgat Mackenzie akak boknaai visagie that b eing you a tiually has knowledge of rugby???
Or in simple english you talk **** all the time as ur the loner in dire need of attention.
Yes i know you’ll rant in typical creche fashion and swear words that aint even in any world dictionary, coming from you that is to be expected
But, i am just letting you know this is what this TOSBOX THINKS OF YOU.
30 Aug 2012, 20:30 pm
@fitz1ella-727: So you “backed” the Boks when they lost against Scotland under Matfield?
Whoopee farken doodums… Looks like you might very well have been wrong there, but good of you to admit it….
*Applause from the gallery*
And then you go mess up this one way route to honesty by going Barney Befok for absolutely no valid reason whatsoever….
Mad I tell you that for absolutely free…
30 Aug 2012, 20:36 pm
@Heavens Game-732: Hiyas HG
30 Aug 2012, 20:38 pm
@Heavens Game-729: Actually just before SMits time, Louis Luyt in his book says, Teichmann the best Capt he has ever seen,, Says he believd the players would walk through walls for Teich
30 Aug 2012, 20:40 pm
@Heavens Game-729:
Nope you got it wrong doodums
1. Pienaar – the 45 million man… The Apple of Madiba’s eye
2. Morne Du Plessis – Leader extraordinaire
3. Divan Serfontein – the little general with a lion heart
4. Dawie de Villiers – the golden man with the midas touch
5. Teichmann – consecutive test win world record leader
6. Wynand Claasen – Leader of conscience 2
7. Bedford – Leader of conscience 1
8. Barney – longevity, success, loyalty to the Boks in 2007 until the concept of immortality turned him from hero to zero on the whim of an ego that went cancerous.
30 Aug 2012, 20:41 pm
@sharks_lover-733: Huzzit Sharkie… The natives been a bit restless today…
Looks like this Pith Helmet Last Outpost Colonial soutie from Pretoria been successful in quelling a whole goddamn rebellion here today….
Whites of their eyes boys…
Aim…
FIRE!!!
30 Aug 2012, 20:45 pm
@fitz1ella-735: Topsy farken turvy if I ever have seen….
But,
Swap Serfontein with Barney, De Villiers with Bedford then we actually may have got it right through your passion and my actual brains and imagination…
30 Aug 2012, 20:47 pm
@Heavens Game-732: I backed them for the grand slam that year because it was a distinct possibility with that fatfunk piece of overrated LARDASS out the goddamn way…
and Scotland should have been a cake walk.. but PdV and Matfield walked into a quagmire that day because they let their guard slip thinking of all the obstacles Scotland was the one they didn’t need to pitch up for… and like every time the ego gets warped by presupposed expectations they slipped on the very banana peel they left exposed..
and lambiekins got chucked into deep waters he couldn’t quite swim in yet.. poor dear.
and if you go back and check it prior to the game I’m pretty sure i warned the groot kannone that Scotland was NOT to be underestimated..
So you backed Boks to win against Scotland and LOSE against Ireland, Wales and England.. who got it right.. and who got it wrong.. when you gonna own up and check it straight up..? I pretty much owned your presuppositions almost every godforsaken time.
30 Aug 2012, 20:47 pm
I see The Sharks are right behind a Bullies are Loosers Campaign …!!
30 Aug 2012, 20:47 pm
@Heavens Game-736:
30 Aug 2012, 20:47 pm
@sharks_lover-734: Look, I’m as much a Teich fan as anyone… But Pienaar led from the front for something pretty goddamn miraculous… Something bigger than the game played in heaven itself…
Only one Invictus Cappie… Pienaar = Carpe Diem personified.
30 Aug 2012, 20:49 pm
@carol-739: No we aint, we just think HM needs to rethink some of the silly things he is doing,
See Carol there is respect between the Bulls and Sharks for the most, of course there are one or 2 exceptions
30 Aug 2012, 20:50 pm
@sharks_lover-740: He sure did, noone can ever take away what he achieved
30 Aug 2012, 20:52 pm
@carol-739: Losers, darling, Losers…. Seems you that 50 Shades of Grey literary “merit” you been reading got you in a vice like grip of “looseness”…
And no this Sharkie got nothing but respect for Bullies and their fine history and winning tradition…
30 Aug 2012, 20:54 pm
@sharks_lover-742:
If he has a look in here I am sure he will know exactly what he now needs to do now!!
30 Aug 2012, 20:56 pm
Okay… over and out for me…
Banshee left some nice bits of cooked red meat in the kitchen….
This apex carnivore needs to go and lick and chomp some nice succulent bloody chops and steak….
30 Aug 2012, 20:57 pm
@Heavens Game-744:
Hooray, a spelling mistake for you to jump on!!
Probably the only thing you will get to ‘jump on’ tonight!!
30 Aug 2012, 21:00 pm
@carol-745: LOL carol, its very simple really he needs to look at his squad and realise he has good foot ballers there, not just kick and chase specialists, he truelt can play a good brand of rugby if he just puts his mind to it
30 Aug 2012, 21:01 pm
LOL, Even Jake White is sick of the sight of Kirtchner. Kick that plodder to the curb soonest Meyer!
30 Aug 2012, 21:02 pm
@sharks_lover-748:
Well that sounds straight forward enough!
Has anyone told him this?
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