KeoTV: Backing Bekker
6 Sep 2012
MARK KEOHANE says there has to be a concerted investment in Andries Bekker.
KeoTV: Backing Bekker
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6 Sep 2012, 11:37 am
@John Galt-94: I’m sure we could agree on quite a few coaching issues. The article Grant10 posted kind of sums up what I feel about Meyer right about now.
When everyone was going ‘gaga’ about his little ‘meet the player’ camps and what a forward thinking man he was etc etc, I rolled my eyes and sat back to observe the absolute delight with which everything the man said was lapped up.
You might not believe this, but I really was (and a part of me still is) hoping to be proved wrong.
The Boks: players, fans and other interested parties deserve the BEST. Not lies, deceit, inconsistency, paranoia, excuses, hypocritical statements and hysteria in the coaching booth.
We deserve better. But that’s just me.
And if Morne has a great game the weekend? All is forgiven and hunkyfuckingdory again? Until he blows against NZ?
6 Sep 2012, 11:37 am
@grant10-90:
He won’t be getting any sympathy from Pretoria either if he drops Morne, Potgieter, Flip.
Can you imagine the uproar in Pretoria if the BB only have two players in the Bok 22 , Hougaard and Kruger, for the rest of the year?
6 Sep 2012, 11:39 am
This is just too funny – I luv the guppies they are so passionate and one-eyed.
“Let’s get back to this positional mucking about, though. We’re told – repeatedly – by your bevvy of tame journos that Pat Lambie cannot possibly be picked at flyhalf for the Boks because, shock horror, the Sharks occasionally play him at fullback. If you had bothered to actually talk to the Sharks coaches, who have known Lambie a lot longer and better than you do, you could very quickly have worked out that the Sharks actually do see Lambie as their best flyhalf and could have explained the quite tactical reasons that he was deployed at fullback for a few games”
6 Sep 2012, 11:40 am
School out early today?
6 Sep 2012, 11:42 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-97: Matfield never had the kind of injury which Bekker does. Bekker is rushed back too soon. Yes, he needs more time off, period.
@grant10-100: Same. Me too.
6 Sep 2012, 11:46 am
@nama1-102: LOL
Between a rock and a hard place …
6 Sep 2012, 11:46 am
No point backing Bekker if Bekkers back cannot back him
6 Sep 2012, 11:47 am
@gunther-104:
SCHOOL’S
OUT
FOR
EVER
6 Sep 2012, 11:49 am
Matfield did not bother hitting the rucks and mixing it up in the tight stuff. He was more in the back line than anything else.
That’s the only reason for his injury free career. Where have you heard of a lock in the modern era who ended his career without a serious injury at some stage?
6 Sep 2012, 11:50 am
@gunther-104: Come now Gunthie….You fellows knew this was going to happen after the draw against Arg. Two wins against the Aussies will make most happy again.
Granted the lunatic fringe (of which I am a proud member..) will continue to question much of what Meyer does, simply because we don’t think he is the best man for the job and didn’t buy into the hype. Nothing has changed – we are at least consistent.
(What should be worrying Meyer’s foot soldiers and harem though, is the about turn from KZN….fuckeyme they bought into the BullBoksharks at huge expense after that 1st squad was announced…and now?)
6 Sep 2012, 11:53 am
As I’ve said before, stick to things that you know off. Did you not respond then that you were a hostelbrak and did not really know how things work?
On my way to CAY.
6 Sep 2012, 11:55 am
@gunther-104: Faf Du Plessis must be fighting serious internal demons this morning, he must ask Ravi Bopara
6 Sep 2012, 11:56 am
Whew Gwanti10; you’ve been bottling stuff up while supporting Namibia! BUT, I agree with quite a lot of what you say but with a disclaimer. Player trust is only but one of the strengths a coach should have or establish. This focus on this player or that player; Steyn a bumbler, Hougaard ***** up every game is just childish, immature and typically SA rugby. For goodness sake; NZ won the RWC with a well drilled team of journeymen (Piri Weepoo! et al; and ok they did get a sweetheart ref and a relatively poor French team). A bok team coached by Mallett and White, including John Smit could well have beaten NZ on the day. Provided Alan Snollymans hade been desptached with a bullet tot he back of the head for treason of course.
The problem I see is that HM is battling to instill a half decent game plan into his players (does he have one?) and he doesn’t seem to be able to get the basics of rugby well established. Maybe his assistants are responsible for this but it doesn’t look good. next, the Boks have to hang onto, or win, the ball. Keep kicking to the opposition and you are going to get hurt. Ask PDivvy circa 2008. Ask FS circa Aug 2012 in a Currie Cup game when they kept kicking the ball to the hungry Sharks. But there is a place for kicking and you cannot excpect the Boks to become Sonny Bill Willaims and the French team overnight.
The players’ skills are important but understanding them and coaching them more so. Big Saturday for HM coming up.
6 Sep 2012, 11:56 am
@grant10-90: I don’t see us winning any games.
6 Sep 2012, 12:02 pm
Are you striking again Nama?
6 Sep 2012, 12:05 pm
@XhosaKid-112:
Indeed.
Hash is there to guide him though.
6 Sep 2012, 12:06 pm
@XhosaKid-112:
Cook’s face after Athers asked him about KP was priceless.
Athers as a cricketer never impressed me. Even after his dual with Donald at the Bullring and his 185. But his not a bad commentator.
6 Sep 2012, 12:08 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-101: Listen, Morne is a WARRIOR!
Bekker is a back-broken philanderer
6 Sep 2012, 12:13 pm
@Transformation-118:
Indeed.
Morne Steyn has records, glory and scalps aplenty.
Bekgat has got a dodgy back and hefty palimony payments to make.
6 Sep 2012, 12:13 pm
Never do.
6 Sep 2012, 12:14 pm
@gunther-119: Moerred of the park bench more than a back could stand.
6 Sep 2012, 12:15 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-121: Or he was trying to ghoen the stukkie in the back of her Mini…….eina
6 Sep 2012, 12:16 pm
Morne is also a two season wonder. Time to cull him.
6 Sep 2012, 12:18 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-122:
That’s when you wish you had forked out for the sunroof option.
Like trying to fit a giraffe in a ketchup bottle.
6 Sep 2012, 12:19 pm
@XhosaKid-112:
Don’t expect people on Keo to call for his head though.
Now, if that was Duminy who had a series like that….
6 Sep 2012, 12:22 pm
We need a brekgat “Christian Ronaldo” type of flyhalf playing for the Boks.
Some with flair and arrogance and is able to back it up on the field.
6 Sep 2012, 12:23 pm
@nama1-125:
It depresses me that you are shaping young people’s outlooks on life.
6 Sep 2012, 12:25 pm
@nama1-125:
Ja, some cricket “kenner” on this very site said JP would not be able to handle the quick stuff and is suspect when it comes to off-spin especially that of Swann.
6 Sep 2012, 12:26 pm
@Jeraldjay-128:
Ja remind me what his average against England is.
6 Sep 2012, 12:29 pm
@nama1-125: Its a pity SS cricket message-board is now closed, I used to have serious arguments with those “know-it-all” old fartts. Today Amla is the world’s best batsman and AB is 3rd best ODI batsman and he is keeping wicket. I was proved right.
6 Sep 2012, 12:30 pm
Our pack:
1. Beast – not in form.
2. Strauss – doesn’t like the tight stuff
3. Jannie – playing well by his standards
4. Etzebeth – 5 caps
5. Kruger – 4 caps
6. Coetzee – 5 caps
7. Alberts – around 10 caps. Only effective for about 50 minutes
8 Vermeulen – debut. Coming back from injury.
You guys really believe this pack can dominate the Aussie pack?
6 Sep 2012, 12:32 pm
@gunther-129:
To me Test cricket is the be all and end all, so I don’t know what his overall test average against England is but I think Gary/Hudson will never drop him in the near future based on his performance in this current series.
He also one of the few players to play all formats of the game for the Proteas.
6 Sep 2012, 12:33 pm
@Jeraldjay-126: Arrogance has been the downfall of many, and not just in sport. Give me a down to earth grafter any day of the week rather than a showpony.
6 Sep 2012, 12:34 pm
@nama1-131: Do the same for the Aussie pack and lets compare.
6 Sep 2012, 12:35 pm
@gunther-127:
WOW!!!
Glad to hear I have such a profound effect on your miserable life.
6 Sep 2012, 12:36 pm
@gunther-129: 67.50, not bad, I have a sneaking suspicion this catches you with a your pants down…….
6 Sep 2012, 12:38 pm
@gunther-127: Why, is he a dealer of Class A’s?
6 Sep 2012, 12:38 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-133:
Not talking about a showponny.
A player that thrives on arrogance. A glamour boy that is able to back it up on the field.
Skinstad was the closest to that kind of player in SA.(before the car accident).
Australia has Quad Cooper and NZ Sonny Bill.
6 Sep 2012, 12:40 pm
@nama1-135:
It’s the kids I feel sorry for.
@XhosaKid-136:
Um er.
His average against England in both series he has played in.
Go and tidy yourself up.
Googling the telegraph for your clients doesn’t make you clever.
6 Sep 2012, 12:42 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-134:
8 Radike Samo,
7 Michael Hooper,
6 Dave Dennis,
5 Nathan Sharpe,
4 Sitaleki Timani,
3 Ben Alexander,
2 Tatafu Polota-Nau,
1 Benn Robinson
OK Kwagga.
Go ahead and tell me why you think our pack will dominate this pack.
6 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm
What’s that sound effect at the opening of the video? Copied from an episode of the Six Million Dollar Man, as he is in the process of leaping a 20 foot fence, bell bottom pants and all?
6 Sep 2012, 12:44 pm
@Jeraldjay-138: And where is Quade today…… there or there about but hardly the destructive force he was 18 months ago.
SBW would have walked the same route imho.
No ways bud. Cannot agree.
6 Sep 2012, 12:45 pm
@nama1-140:
’cause we have the “Messiah” on our side.
How do you think Frans scored that charge down try….
6 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
@nama1-140: Aussie 1,3,7 and 8 worth something. The rest are so-so.
I am happy with our front row against these guys. 4 and 5 will be a better combination for the Boks and our loose trio has the goods with vermeulen being the only grey area imo because of lack of gametime.
6 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
@gunther-139: Typical, you have your mind wrapped up where he had failed as a rookie, just chose to ignore his recent play, clearly whatever shortcoming he had then is ironed out, why not do the same with Amla, remember his first series against England?. Guess what both Amla and Duminy got the chop, would Faf Du Plessis get the chop?
Typical bigotry, just laid it bare
6 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
@Tacitus-141: We can build him again. Smaller, balder, unemployed…
6 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm
They’re doing just fine, boet.
16 of them on their way to CAY with me representing Namaqualand at a provincial championship as Namaqua champs.
Don’t worry about them. Leave that to me.
I’m sure you have other things to worry about.
6 Sep 2012, 12:50 pm
@XhosaKid-145: You and Nama, shut it now or we’ll drop you off on one of the Kiwi threads and only fetch you tomorrow.
6 Sep 2012, 12:50 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-144: Well, then, its game, set, match for the Bokke, will tear the Wallabies a new come Saturday, I can’t wait…
6 Sep 2012, 12:51 pm
@katman-137:
@Jeraldjay-138:
Earl Rose.
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