KeoTV: Backing Bekker

KeoTV: Backing Bekker

6 Sep 2012

MARK KEOHANE says there has to be a concerted investment in Andries Bekker.

 


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  • 251.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:52 pm

    @Puma-245: No Sure, it’s not as if the national team owns the player, if Pat wants to play at 10 then let him, he’s certainly the best 10 at the Sharks at the moment!

  • 252.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:53 pm

    @i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-246:
    Maybe not the Stormers, but WP certainly after last weeks performance

  • 253.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:53 pm

    @Transformation-243: No man Transie. READ again now boet. What I am saying there is that Meyer will not be using Lambie (so he is not really needed by Meyer), but we at the Sharks need him then more so than Meyer thinks he does. We want him to play at Boks they need him on the bench.

    So if Boks don’t need him WE do….. :) Then you knew what I meant and only stirring again.

  • 254.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:54 pm

    Look, we’re all a little suspicious about Goosens ability to remain uninjured, but for a while he can do the job of seeing Morne off to the NH pension plan and allow Elton and Lambie fight it out for the Bok FH 1 and 2 spot.

  • 255.XhosaKid: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:54 pm

    @stormersboy-251: Is the Froggie not returning for Super Rugby next year

  • 256.XhosaKid: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:57 pm

    @David-254: I like that plan, It would be nice to watch Lambie, Jantjies and Goosen going for it, without Steyn in the picture.

  • 257.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:57 pm

    @stormersboy-251: He is our best 10 and we should play him there. Plum has said this year Pat is our first choice 10. And he was until he got injured. Only then did Fred play fh. Then of course 3 games he started at fb with Fred at fh when the situation needed them both on the field at the same time to play.

    Remember we also have Carel’s son coming to Sharks next year. Think JL Du Plessis is 18 now. Heard he is too a great young talent. He will be in our academy. Has signed for 2 years with the Sharks.

  • 258.grant10: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 15:59 pm

    @David-254: If Goosen can do that I will be eternally grateful….

  • 259.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:00 pm

    @XhosaKid-255: No he is back playing in France.

  • 260.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:00 pm

    @XhosaKid-255: I’m not sure. Id play Fred at 9 personally and Pat at 10.

  • 261.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:01 pm

    @David-244: sharp… :mrgreen:

  • 262.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:01 pm

    @XhosaKid-250:
    To be fair we need a big hitter in the middle order.

    But Albie has seldom lived up to the hype around his big hitting abilities

  • 263.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:02 pm

    Lambie…..Lambie….Bosman….freddie…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • 264.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:02 pm

    @Puma-257:
    Carel sent his son there so that he can gain experience playing against some really good VC and CC sides like WP.

  • 265.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:03 pm

    @stormersboy-260: Fred did start at sh this year bud. He played there in the early part of the season with Lambie playing flyhalf. Fred was not great at sh really, well he was not great playing scrummie for us in the early part of the season. He is a better fh. Fred has left now and going to play for some club in France. Forgot the name of the club he will be playing for.

  • 266.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:03 pm

    @XhosaKid-255: no, already signed for Toulon…

  • 267.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:05 pm

    Would love Jantjies in the Cape….but I do believe he will only make a decision after a meeting with the WPRFU. Rumour has it, he has already met with Bulls, Kings and possibly the Sharks.
    That aside though – down here we have a few young 10′s.
    Gary, Kurt (who I reckon should be groomed as a 15 possibly), Swiel, Pieter Jordaan who will be joining our academy after school (SharkPauls brother), as well as Ryno Eksteen the Bulls Craven week flyhalf…..

    Plus we have Leyds who can play 10….

    That’s a few No 10′s right there.

  • 268.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:06 pm

    @David-264: It was the youngsterschoice. I read he said it was the professional way the Sharks went about getting him that impressed him and not his father, that he decided to join the Sharks academy.

    I personally have not seen him play just heard he is a superb talent. Also very talented at cricket.

  • 269.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:09 pm

    @David-264: Carel sent his son there because we had already bought the Bulls and Free State Craven week 10′s.
    Plus we have Swiel in the bank…

    I think Carel and his son were fed up with all the Handre Pollard arselicking by the WPRFU, when it was clear to everyone bar the union, the kid really was going to leave CT for Pretoria….
    Jean Luc would have been 1st choice Craven week and a lot more, IF Pollard had been ‘outed’ earlier.
    I know the WPRFU did offer Jean Luc a contract…but the dups decided to show the WPRFU the middle finger I reckon :)

  • 270.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:09 pm

    @Puma-257: Thought he was more interested in cricket

  • 271.W.P: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:09 pm

    Juandre Kruger is a lineout jumper. That is all. He does not take the ball up and stands off in defence. He does not clean out rucks. He is on top form – no better than – an injured Bekker.

  • 272.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:11 pm

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-267: You have a lot of very good 10s coming through. However, Jantjies comes fully ready. Wonderful player and needs to start every game at 10. Not sure if he should be going to the Bulls. Unless he thinks that is the way to get selected for the Boks. They have Pollard there as well. Though he is still quite young.

    Read AC said that Province want to adopt the Chiefs style of play. Then you need Janjties.

  • 273.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:12 pm

    @stormersboy-260: that was the Sharks 1st choice halfback combo in their 1st game of Super rugby this year…

  • 274.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:12 pm

    @Puma-268: Seen him play at Boy’s high – Gim interschools.
    Very good ball skills, but looks a bit skinny. Wonder if he’s got his dad’s pace?

  • 275.touch.pause.engage: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:13 pm

    As a Sharks supporter I was dissaponted that Plumtree continued with Michalak at 10 when Lambie returned from injury. I know Michalak was having a purple patch but Lambie should of been backed as a 10 and allowed to stake a claim at 10 for national honours. I had a feeling then that it would cost Lambie at Bok level. Plumtree should of been bolder , would of been tough on Michalak, but those are the decisions a coach needs to make. Not easy !!

  • 276.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:13 pm

    @TooMuchRugby-270: Well he has decided to concentrate on rugby. That is what he said. He has signed with Sharks for 2 years with a clause to extend that contract. He will be joining Sharks Academy next year.

  • 277.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:13 pm

    @Puma-272: did you actually get what he meant by “adopt Chiefs style” Puma?

    where can i read that?

  • 278.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:13 pm

    @Puma-272: I just hope Elton makes a decision that benefits his future…and not one based on promises and offers too good to refuse.
    Too many young players, gifted players seem to be making this mistake these days. Sadie the prime example.

  • 279.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:14 pm

    @TooMuchRugby-274: I have never seen him play. Well if he has his dad’s pace and skills he will be a wonderful talent to have.

  • 280.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:14 pm

    @Puma-257: Ja, that still gives me indigestion to be honest.

  • 281.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:15 pm

    @Puma-268:
    You mean, it was the money? :lol:
    Seriously though, we have a number of upcoming 10s as dogfood mentioned, and there was probably a reluctance to make a special case for him as Carels son. Better the Sharks than BBs.

  • 282.gunther: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:15 pm

    @Puma-257:

    Indeed.

    He was the great white hype once province lost Pollard.

    Now they’re making out like he wasn’t much good either.

    :lol:

  • 283.Skeppie: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:16 pm

    @grant10-203: Lambie will do a good job at 15, certainly better than Kirchner. That said he does not have enough pace to be a truly great 15 and his best attribute is his movement and distribution in traffic which makes him a really good 10.

  • 284.grant10: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:17 pm

    Come to CT Elton….

  • 285.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:17 pm

    @touch.pause.engage-275:
    The coach made the right decision for the Sharks, who employ him, not the Boks.

  • 286.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:17 pm

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-278: Exactly. The reason I think if he went to Stormers for next years Super Rugby he will start every game. He is better than Grant. If you had Elton this year he would have made a difference.

    No use really if one team has them both. What good would that do for both the youngsters? The reason I think it is far better for Elton to go to Stormers/Province than Sharks. Lambie and Elton need to be starting every game. That way they will.

  • 287.grant10: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:19 pm

    @Skeppie-283: I also think Lambie should concentrate on 10….

    For me Jaco Taute may be the long term answer at 15…

  • 288.XhosaKid: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:20 pm

    @Jeraldjay-262: a big hitter is needed, I would take a slogger like the WP W/K, Dane Vilas or Levy for that matter.

  • 289.rangerman: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:20 pm

    @gunther-282: haha, they nearly shat their collective wp broeks when sadie signed with the bulls and are happily slating the kid after insisting he should have been a bolter in the bok RWC squad :lol:

    same goes for a few other youngsters.

    the cape is truly the only province in south africa that embraces the “glamour” culture that americans are more known for.

    its amusing but can lead to the feeling of talking to a brick wall :lol:

  • 290.grant10: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:21 pm

    @Puma-286: correct….the Bissy / Smit dilemma was not a positive….niether will a Lambie/ Jantjes conondrum …

  • 291.rangerman: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:21 pm

    @XhosaKid-288: yo wassup myyy nyggga lets chat in ebonics (if only that elegant tongue was familiar to me).

  • 292.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:22 pm

    @touch.pause.engage-275: After the injury Pat picked up during the S15 he did go back to fh. Remember he played fh against the Chiefs at the Tank also against Force and Landers. Think Lambie was mom against Landers. The next week we had to play Cheetahs and he had flu so Fred started. Then the following week we had to play Stormers at the Tank. That was a must win and there we had to play both our play makers. Pat had a superb game against Stormers at fb. Then the next week against the Lions the whole team played terrible. Then came thet tests and he picked up that ankle injury that kept him out for the rest of the season he only played 40min against the Cheetahs and went off injured. Plum should not have played him against the Chiefs in the final. Pat was not game ready. Again like he will be sitting on the bench with the Boks. Feel for the youngster really. But next year he will be our 1st choice fh.

  • 293.grant10: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:24 pm

    AC would be a fool not to want Elton….

    Grant globetrotter has shown he cannot do it when the chips are down….

    Come to CT Elton….we need you !

  • 294.David: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:25 pm

    @rangerman-289:
    I think it was HM who suggested Sadie as a bolter for the WC. We already had JF, JdV and JdeJ there.

  • 295.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:25 pm

    @grant10-290: Elton should think before he signs Province/Bulls or Sharks where he will get his most game time. It will be at Province. He should really go to Province he will start there. Lambie as far as I read will be again our 1st choice fh for next year and he will start.

    Look I could be saying this now and who knows we may see him at fb. Nothing surprises me anymore. Crazy to mess this talented youngster about.

  • 296.XhosaKid: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:28 pm

    @rangerman-291: Eish, I dig it !!!, no doubt, hah!!! ha!!!, LOL!!!!! :-) , I really hate it when people themselves far too serious, then when exposed for being s’s, they sulk and insult

  • 297.Puma: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:28 pm

    @grant10-293: You need another scrummie too. Who played sh when Duvenhage went off injured on Saturday? He was better than Duvenhage. Has Sarel signed with Cheetahs for next years S15? He could be a good sign. Stormers will get his defence right which is the only thing really missing from his game.

  • 298.rangerman: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:29 pm

    @David-294: oh ja david, it was only hm :lol:

    seriously, hoffman sadie jj and that kid who left for the bulls (the fullback who is either on a disciplinary or injured) were all hugely hyped by you capies lmao!

  • 299.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:30 pm

    @touch.pause.engage-275: the sharks would’ve never made it to the finals without michalak directing traffic…plum is the sharks coach and not a bok scout…he has to look after his own perfomances.

  • 300.touch.pause.engage: Reply to this comment
    6 Sep 2012, 16:30 pm

    Actually a Elton / Lambie scenario would be ideal at the Sharks. You need quality in depth especially in the FH position. So much rugby to be played, will be more than enough playing time for both. Would prevent burnout and if properly managed both players will benefit. Lambie has a history of injuries so having 2 FH’s of quality would be great. As long as both players are told beforehand that they will play x amount of games and buy into it, it is a win-win.

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