Comments on: JdV: ‘Boks have a point to prove’

By: Te Rangatira

Te Rangatira — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:09:08 +0000

The comments from the Bok captain seem a tad too nice…..fire and brimstone….go out there on a mission to destroy….talk it up.

By: Guns

Guns — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:44:48 +0000

Time for a late night pizza and some rugby replays.. May even watch couple has of the last round starting with Kiwis vs Auz don’t think can watch Boks last game again 1 and a half times was more than enough :O let’s hope Jean was not bedding a cover to cushion any potential fall and Boks come out firing! Hopefully Heynek will do some of the real talking tomorrow if the new changes and bench get used right..

By: Guns

Guns — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:28:14 +0000

And ‘WeepArythums” respectively, deul algorithms..

By: Guns

Guns — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:26:49 +0000

@katman-28: ha ha
Mr ***** =^. ^= Katman… Every so often when I’m on the road and not logged in some1 comes up with pure comedy gold.. I heard the developer keo paid off to code them calls them “Keorythums”

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:51:20 +0000

@fitz1ella-107:
Heres a simple equation:
Tricky Dicky + Goldilocks + Dippy = Farken Madness

Yup… Smitty could only do so much… and he did as much as he could… Nearly superhuman leadership. If it wasn’t for him then there would have been far more funnies than those you have listed…

By far… Smitty was the difference between Dippy and Co being average, and farken downright historical flops…

By: fitz1ella

fitz1ella — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:41:57 +0000

Like that fatfunk self righteous useless punk who LOST the following games he ‘led’ Boks in the last 2 whole years of his IMMACULATE leadership…

13 Nov 2009 AI - South Africa v France 13-20
28 Nov 2009 AI - South Africa v Ireland 10-15
10 Jul 2010 3N – South Africa v New Zealand 12-32
17 Jul 2010 3N – South Africa v New Zealand 17-31
24 Jul 2010 3N – South Africa v Australia 13-30
21 Aug 2010 3N – South Africa v New Zealand 22-29
28 Aug 2010 3N – South Africa v Australia 44-31
04 Sep 2010 3N – South Africa v Australia 39-41
23 Jul 2011 3N – South Africa v Australia 20-39
30 Jul 2011 3N – South Africa v New Zealand 7-40
13 Aug 2011 3N – South Africa v Australia 9-14

Played - 11
Wins - 1 - 9.1%
Losses - 10 - 90.9%

Now THAT is world class LEADERSHIP for you

If JdV EVER returns such abysmal f’ng HOPELESS leadership capacity I will be the FIRST to scream blue murder for his Hopeless Head..

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:26:32 +0000

@fitz1ella-104: Follow will o the wisp over Blondie the ex Munster Clown any day of the week... And I reckon most of the Boks would too if it really came to the wire... Fact is, Kaptein Donkey does not inspire.

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:23:30 +0000

I reckon besides King Heyneke having a distinct lack of imagination in the selection stakes, half the problem with the Boks is a distinct lack of leadership on field… Whether that leadership is actually suppressed or whether true leadership ability is lacking from the Captain of the moment, I reckon the latter is why this is actually missing from the Boks on field and is a big factor in underperformance…

As nice a guy Donkey might be… he is no real leader.

By: fitz1ella

fitz1ella — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:21:40 +0000

yeah little Keegy Danny boy.. now THERE’s a goddamn leader for you .. like you gonna follow a will o the wisp little dandelion all the way into war…

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:17:05 +0000

Nothing like Kaptein Donkey stating the obvious…

Farken clown…

Leader my foot.

By: fitz1ella

fitz1ella — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:36:13 +0000

Post it again with a hyphen so you can read the reality a little better before you deduce who’s the bees knees of rugby coaches and who ain’t

JW win ratio vs NZ – home and away (3N)
Played 9
Wins 3 – 33.3%
Losses 6 - 66.7%

PdV win ratio vs NZ – home and away (3N)
Played 11
Wins 5 - 45.5%
Losses 6 - 54.5%

JW win ratio vs Australia (3N)
Played 11
Wins 6 - 54.5%
Losses 5 - 45.5%

PdV win ratio vs Australia (3N)
Played 11
Wins 4 - 36.4%
Losses 7 - 63.6%

JW win ratio vs France home and away
Played 4
Wins 1 - 25.0%
Losses 2 - 50.0%
Draws 1 - 25.0%

PdV win ratio vs France home and away
Played 2
Wins 1 - 50.0%
Losses 1 - 50.0%

JW win ratio vs Home Unions Eoyt
Played 10
Wins 5 - 50.0%
Losses 5 - 50.0%

PdV win ratio vs Home Unions Eoyt
Played 10
Wins 7 - 70.0%
Losses 3 - 30.0%

JW away wins vs Ireland
Played 2
Wins 0
Losses 2 - 100.0%

PdV away wins vs Ireland
Played 2
Wins 1 - 50.0%
Losses 1 - 50.0%

JW away wins vs England (Eoyt)
Played 3
Wins 1 - 33.3%
Losses 2 - 66.7%

PdV away wins vs England (Eoyt)
Played 2
Wins 2 - 100.0%
Losses 0

JW win ratio vs Wales home & away
Played 3
Wins 3 - 100.0%

PdV win ratio vs Wales home & away
Played 6
Wins 6 - 100.0%

PdV win ratio vs Br-Ir. Lions
Played 3
Wins 2 - 66.7%
Losses 1 - 33.3%

By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha

i_love_u_bakkiesbotha — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:32:24 +0000

@bokfan1-88:
trendsetters ja, dont forget lifting in the lineout

By: fitz1ella

fitz1ella — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:28:34 +0000

JW win ratio vs NZ – home and away
Played 9
Wins 3 33.3%
Losses 6 66.7%

PdV win ratio vs NZ – home and away
Played 11
Wins 5 45.5%
Losses 6 54.5%

JW win ratio vs France home and away
Played 4
Wins 1 25.0%
Losses 2 50.0%
Draws 1 25.0%

PdV win ratio vs France home and away
Played 2
Wins 1 50.0%
Losses 1 50.0%

JW win ratio vs Home Unions Eoyt
Played 10
Wins 5 50.0%
Losses 5 50.0%

PdV win ratio vs Home Unions Eoyt
Played 10
Wins 7 70.0%
Losses 3 30.0%

JW away wins vs Ireland
Played 2
Wins 0
Losses 2 100.0%

PdV away wins vs Ireland
Played 2
Wins 1 50.0%
Losses 1 50.0%

JW away wins vs England (Eoyt)
Played 3
Wins 1 33.3%
Losses 2 66.7%

PdV away wins vs England (Eoyt)
Played 2
Wins 2 100.0%
Losses 0

JW win ratio vs Wales home & away
Played 3
Wins 3 100.0%

PdV win ratio vs Wales home & away
Played 6
Wins 6 100.0%

PdV win ratio vs Br-Ir. Lions
Played 3
Wins 2 66.7%
Losses 1 33.3%

JW win ratio vs Australia (3N)
Played 11
Wins 6 54.5%
Losses 5 45.5%

PdV win ratio vs Australia (3N)
Played 11
Wins 4 36.4%
Losses 7 63.6%

So the Stats prove that APART from vs Australia every other first tier rugby nation PdV has a BETTER win / loss ratio to JW

Only difference is JW waltzed a no contest gimme WC against nobody teams such as 7th rank England and 6th rank Argy

and PdV was put out the quarter finals against 2nd rank Australia by 2 lucky packet points and a one eyed ref.

Fundamentally speaking PdV was a FAR better coach than JW except nobody wanna ever believe it.

By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha

i_love_u_bakkiesbotha — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:27:50 +0000

@bokfan1-85:

lmga (lag my gat af)
****** snaaks bok… ****** snaaks

rayno gerber, gurthro steenkamp, danie thiart en jaco engels was die bulls se stutte in 2007 toe hulle die reds, crusaders en tjarks deurmekaar geloop het. bands het al lank voor dit by die bulls klaar gemaak, miskien in 2004 of 2005 al.

ag goie tuie, goie tuie…

By: RAI8

RAI8 — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:05:22 +0000

@kaizan very well summed up!

By: Kaizan

Kaizan — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:55:27 +0000

Some easy wins for the Springboks include the following moves:

1) offloads in the tackle – If we practise this week in and week out in training and in games, we will learn when to offload and when not to. Healthy offloading is the cornerstone of any good attacking team.

2) Inside ball – if our backline is moving the ball through the hands, it can often catch an opposition off guard for someone to run against the grain and take the inside ball.

3) Variety from our flyhalf – this will make our flyhalf more difficult to predict and will mean that oppositions will have a harder time preparing for us. As it currently stands, we are one of the easiest teams in the world to prepare for, because we are so one-dimensional and predictable.

4) Variety in our game plan – same reasons as above. There is nothing wrong with the kick chase game plan, except for the fact that it’s the only game plan we have. A one size fits all approach is not the approach of a world class team. To be the best, we should have a few more tricks up our sleeve. There is a time to use kick chase and a time to use other tactics.

5) A fetcher – self-explanatory as to why we need this.

6) Pressure defense – We are a young-ish team at the moment and there are a lot of guys in a green jersey who, although talented, have been a teensy bit outmuscled and schooled by more experienced opponents. The Argies as an example schooled our forwards at the breakdown in Mendoza. Let’s turn things around and put the pressure on the opposition. When we don’t have the ball, this is a perfect opportunity to make life difficult for the opposition. Let’s throw our forwards all over them and force them into mistakes. Rush defense combined with drift defense. Aggressive D is one of the quickest wins we can get.

7) Competing at the lineout – why not?

8) With all this talk about playing a kicking game, we have on too many occassions put pressure on ourselves by kicking down the oppositions throat and letting them counter attack… How about we try finding touch?

9) Guys like Quade Cooper and Sonny Bill Williams are going to throw offloads. Guaranteed. Let’s be aware of that in advance and have JDV or Habana (or anyone for that matter) hanging nearby when the tackle is made. When the offload eventually comes, go for the intercept… If they don’t throw an offload, then at least we have found a way to stop them offloading.

There are many many more tactics than kick and chase. Above are only a few that I would expect from my Springboks.

By: RAI8

RAI8 — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:46:13 +0000

@bokfan,would you care to mention a few good things that Pdivvy did for the Boks? He was gifted a masterclass team from Jake White, and got no real results out. However, I must agree with you on HM, I too believe he will do great things with the Boks, he just needs to hit his head a few times to realise he needs to make some changes.

By: rabooby

rabooby — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:32:10 +0000

Point to prove – but not tomorrow – HM needs to adapt his Rugby thinking”! and expand the game plan.
How can he be so one sited, if the rest of the world can see it.. and the worse thing is when they don’t succeed in the game plan there is no fallback. Look at the Bull’s when the sharks started bullying them they crumbled… When Argies bullied SA we had no Idea what to do. But to beat Aus you need to destroy them at the scrums, when they are on the backfoot they make countless error, and explode.. That’s exactly how Ireland beat them in the WC dominated them from the front…. Think the same for the Kiwis – I just wish we could have played them in the WC – think that would have written a different storey all together.

By: cane

cane — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0000

@bokfan1-93: We don't fuuk about under any bridges Fanny. This is keo.dot.comedy. We are all stand up boys and girls.

By: bokfan1

bokfan1 — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:00:17 +0000

Watch our guys! The trolls are under the bridge just waiting to post STUPID comments to try and provoke.

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