Blacks battle past Pumas
8 Sep 2012
SIMON BORCHARDT saw the All Blacks score two tries in the final quarter to beat Argentina 21-5 in Wellington.
Wet weather is a great leveller and that proved to be the case here as the Pumas went into half-time just one point behind the world champions. But the rain stopped, the wind died down, and the visitors’ resistance predictably crumbled at the 60-minute mark after flanker Julio Farias Cabello was yellow carded for a deliberate knock down.
Soon after, Conrad Smith committed three Pumas’ defenders before sending Julian Savea away for a try that made it 14-5. And with five minutes to go, and the Pumas back to 15 men, a long pass from Aaron Cruden saw Cory Jane dive over in the right-hand corner.
The match had begun in driving rain and swirling wind, with the latter pushing Cruden’s first penalty attempt wide. The All Blacks flyhalf, who was a late replacement for the injured Dan Carter, then knocked on (a sign of things to come for his side) before succeeding with his second attempt at goal.
The Pumas had effectively slowed the Boks’ ball down at the breakdown in Mendoza but French referee Romain Poite was not so charitable in Wellington and they were pinned a couple times early on. However, that didn’t deter the visitors from flooding the breakdown.
The committed Pumas’ defence forced the All Blacks into making mistakes that could not be blamed on the weather. In the 13th minute, Ma’a Nonu lost possession in the tackle and Argentina sent the ball wide. Their forwards then bashed away at the line, with loosehead prop Rodrigo Roncero finding a gap around the fringes to score the first try of the game.
Cruden’s boot edged the All Blacks back in front 6-5 soon after, but the handling errors continued with Kieran Read knocking on with the tryline in sight and Richie McCaw spilling the ball just before the break.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen must have given his side a helluva tongue-lashing at half-time and a city-wide power failure gave him an extra 10 minutes to do so.
His side produced a better performance in the second half, with better conditions allowing them to sent the ball wide on two occassions that resulted in two tries.
But Hansen will be the first to admit that there is massive room for improvement, and Heyneke Meyer will be hoping the world champions don’t hit their straps in Dunedin next weekend.
488 Comments
8 Sep 2012, 08:43 am
The All Blacks and Argentina will have to contend with gale force winds for tonight’s clash in Wellington.
The severe weather has also disrupted several flights in and out of the capital.
Weatherwatch’s Philip Duncan said it is part of a spring system making its way over Wellington.
The strong winds will not make things easy for the kickers when the All Blacks take on Argentina at the Cake Tin at 7.30pm tonight.
“At the moment we’ve got winds gusting to about 100km an hour right in the city centre,” said Duncan.
“It’s certainly blustery, and we can imagine there will be gusts up in the more exposed areas of maybe 130 to 140km an hour.”
8 Sep 2012, 08:47 am
owen & naas are out of their depth ito analyses with mallett & mitchell in the studio…
8 Sep 2012, 08:52 am
Holly ****! That’s some crazy wind!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 08:52 am
Great commentary on Supersport, Owen Nkumane and Naas Botha out of their depths, and Arnold Geerdts is just a SABC3 continuity presenter, bless his heart.
8 Sep 2012, 09:03 am
Black by 10 should do it.
8 Sep 2012, 09:05 am
Go Pumas! Wishful thinking.
Great panel in the studio this morning. Mitch, Mallett, Owen and Naas. Campo to join them later for the Bok game.
8 Sep 2012, 09:07 am
@Transformation-2: It’s shameful. Totally outclassed.
8 Sep 2012, 09:07 am
@Transformation-2: For sure. Naas and Owen out of their depth with Mallett and Mitch.
Read yesterday on SS that they were going to be in the panel today. Campo to join them later for the Bok/Aus game.
8 Sep 2012, 09:09 am
At the game, the wind has dropped a lot. Still blustery which will encourage arg. To put the ball in the air at every opportunity. Conditions otherwise good… Field looks pretty dry, and no rain with 30 mins to go to start
8 Sep 2012, 09:10 am
Bad weather in Wellington as usual. Could help the Argies a bit. Afraid Abs will still be too good for them. If Abs don’t pick up the bonus point that would help. Then of course if Boks can pull their backsides into gear and play some decent rugby and get the 4 tries we could be in the hunt again.
8 Sep 2012, 09:11 am
@corporal punishment-9: Okay, well that is even more in favour of the Blacks.
8 Sep 2012, 09:12 am
I was a bit worried earlier in the day, as my mid-day flight home to welly was cancelled due to the winds. But wind dropped enough to get me late afternoon.
8 Sep 2012, 09:13 am
best thing about this game is that bakkies wont be watching it, seeing as he only watches CC and the Boks these days
8 Sep 2012, 09:15 am
@Puma-10: You are such an optimist Puma!
8 Sep 2012, 09:16 am
Puma – don’t get me wrong – it is still farkin windy! Just not gale force anymore. Not too cold, so won’t be much dew. Ok conditions all considered.
Penalty kicking will be difficult, as the wind swirls around the stadium. This is probably bad for the argies.
8 Sep 2012, 09:19 am
I hope the AB’s don’t put up with the time wasting nonsense that they pulled on the boks at Mendoza. The boks had them gaspin and on the ropes after 25!mins, but the boks weren’t able to speed the game up further to take advantage – due to Argie time wasting.
8 Sep 2012, 09:24 am
In South America, time wasting is a way of life.
Lekker.
8 Sep 2012, 09:27 am
I actually think the Pumas are going to give the ABs a huge fright here, aided by the wind.
8 Sep 2012, 09:28 am
the DSTV subscription worth it just to have the priviliege of listening to Mallet and Mitchell…2 great Coaches …..no physcho babble, just real rugby men calling it loud and clear…..
Mallet…please dont turn your back on us if the Meyer train derails…please !!
8 Sep 2012, 09:28 am
Could the ABs suffer the same fate as the Wallabies against Scotland in Newcastle?
8 Sep 2012, 09:29 am
This is going to be exciting.
8 Sep 2012, 09:30 am
Trust pops to leave out the dragons.
8 Sep 2012, 09:31 am
The Argies passion: players and fans is something to behold. Really adds something special to this tournament.
8 Sep 2012, 09:33 am
@grant10-19: It won’t be long before SARU are begging him mate. He is doing a wonderful job with his PR campaign. The longer he stays on the SS panel…….the more questions are going to be asked.
8 Sep 2012, 09:34 am
good haka, ABs here to play..
8 Sep 2012, 09:35 am
It’s time
8 Sep 2012, 09:35 am
@poppa69-25: Argies as well….when you see tears in their eyes during the anthem, you know they are psyched. Won’t help them in the long run, but it makes for a fabulous first 20 minutes
8 Sep 2012, 09:37 am
Ritchie got smashed.
8 Sep 2012, 09:39 am
It will be interesting to see if the Pumas get carded against the ABs.
8 Sep 2012, 09:39 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-27:would never question their commitment..
8 Sep 2012, 09:40 am
Wind is going to make it very tough for the kickers.
8 Sep 2012, 09:43 am
how come the score in the heading says 3-0?
8 Sep 2012, 09:43 am
@poppa69-30: These weather conditions are going to test even the most committed today….
8 Sep 2012, 09:45 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-33: yep should help the Argies
8 Sep 2012, 09:45 am
Lineout malfunctioning for Arg, costly.
8 Sep 2012, 09:46 am
now its 3-0..ABs
8 Sep 2012, 09:46 am
Fuckenhell, the posts are literally shifting….. What a pity Morne wasn’t afforded this privilege.
8 Sep 2012, 09:48 am
@poppa69-13: Bakkies now attends cake-baking classes on a Saturday morning!
8 Sep 2012, 09:49 am
try time
well done old man
8 Sep 2012, 09:49 am
You bloody Argie beauties.
8 Sep 2012, 09:49 am
GAME ON!
8 Sep 2012, 09:49 am
good try Argies,,
8 Sep 2012, 09:49 am
@grant10-19:
Grant but surely they are in two different positions.. Surely its always easier to call it like it is or make obvious analysis of games when you are just opposing a current coach and not in the hot seat yourself? It is true though with Meyer we were always going to be stuck with Morne in early stages as he said its what he and the current crop of seniors know best until cavalry arrives. I think in Cotzee and his goofed hybrid talk he is trying to mould Cotzee into a possible McCaw type player.. Dare I say it.. We all know now he’s a hard ball carrier with an offload and good tackle rate.. Hmm then again who does Cotzee in aspects actually reminds me of in his very early day.. McCaw!! Yes still different but similar attributes in their early years. Guess one would either be a genius or complete idiot to say it.. Before Ball pilfering became the next big hit.. Just saying think about it. Another player who actually does remind me of a current McCaw type player – Josh Struuas. Huge desire to lead from front big ball carrier, solid tackles and ball slowing/pilpher abilities. Just stuck in that mess with the lions, look at Alberts and JF for examples when in a higher quality or more confident team outfit.
8 Sep 2012, 09:50 am
NZ should have just kicked, not sure what Nonu was up to
8 Sep 2012, 09:50 am
@BrumbiesBoy-38: He will be watching…..In fact, if the Argies manage to make a game of this, I expect him to appear on here shortly
8 Sep 2012, 09:50 am
Are Argies better than people think?
8 Sep 2012, 09:50 am
TRY…..Pumas taking their opportunities
8 Sep 2012, 09:50 am
The crowd is stunned!
8 Sep 2012, 09:51 am
And this is against a howling wind. In the second half that wind will be behind the Pumas.
8 Sep 2012, 09:51 am
Guns you talkng too much
8 Sep 2012, 09:52 am
Mealamu threw better to the Argie jumper than Guinazu
8 Sep 2012, 09:53 am
Ref actually blowing indiscretions at ruck time from the Argies.
8 Sep 2012, 09:53 am
argies are spoiling
8 Sep 2012, 09:54 am
Corey from the Hutts look good in slomo
8 Sep 2012, 09:54 am
The ABs are getting bullied!
8 Sep 2012, 09:54 am
NZ trying to maul against the Argies, not sure that’s the best course of action.
8 Sep 2012, 09:55 am
Watse spoiling.
They out-muscling everyone in black
8 Sep 2012, 09:56 am
@Dawn-57: that’s how it looks, more power at the contact point
8 Sep 2012, 09:57 am
Got argiemauled back from their own tryline
Classic
8 Sep 2012, 09:58 am
Argies have come to play, good stuff
8 Sep 2012, 09:58 am
When did the AB’s skills get so bad? Third game in a row I’ve been shocked at how inaccurate they are at the basics.
8 Sep 2012, 09:58 am
Samba tango whatever
8 Sep 2012, 09:58 am
Ref blowing AB indiscretions at ruck time properly too.
Argies love this type of game.
8 Sep 2012, 09:59 am
@Dawn-57: side entry, falling on the wrong side, not rolling away.
8 Sep 2012, 10:00 am
Roncero broke Savea
8 Sep 2012, 10:01 am
Trans
Thanks for that.
Whatever.
It’s working.
8 Sep 2012, 10:01 am
good kick Cruden, Argentina need to get their lineout sorted, I think they’ve lost 5 already
8 Sep 2012, 10:02 am
Breaking News: Bakkies caught cheating & kicked out of class…he was caught copying his classmate’s recipe!
He’s on his way home now…
8 Sep 2012, 10:02 am
@Big Hit-65:i f that was a kiwi you would have called it a head high tackle BH, we know your “impatiality”
8 Sep 2012, 10:03 am
Shame
Conrad Smith was good looking before he started playing rugby
8 Sep 2012, 10:03 am
Good game, either turn up and compete or get embarrassed, So far argies doing all the playing
8 Sep 2012, 10:03 am
all black handling the pits…
8 Sep 2012, 10:03 am
beautiful kick hernandez
8 Sep 2012, 10:03 am
If the Pumas can keep the scoreline close at halftime they will have a very good chance of winning this with the wind behind them in the second half.
8 Sep 2012, 10:04 am
Once again AB’s dropping the ball as soon as they move it. They need some glue.
8 Sep 2012, 10:04 am
Roncero is far king breaking everyone!
8 Sep 2012, 10:04 am
A pin point kick.
Morne take note.
8 Sep 2012, 10:04 am
So, do some guys agree that Argentina is not an easy game. If the argies are in this game with 30 minutes to go NZ will be in trouble. They are playing the 2009 Boks gameplan to perfection (Except for Botha, Matfield and Smith’s lineout dominance).
8 Sep 2012, 10:04 am
The Wallabies are going to lose to the Pumas home and away. Bye bye Robbie Deans.
8 Sep 2012, 10:05 am
Where are all these NZ supporting mofo’s who blew their loads when the Argies did the same to the Boks two weeks ago. They’ve all gone silent lol
8 Sep 2012, 10:06 am
Everyone hatching their eggs before they laid again?
8 Sep 2012, 10:06 am
Doh, it’s raining!
8 Sep 2012, 10:07 am
@W.P-80: Im still here, watching an enthralling game..
8 Sep 2012, 10:07 am
Argentina is putting back the passion in this comp. Best decision Sanzar made in the last ten years (although they were forced into it).
8 Sep 2012, 10:07 am
Graham Henry will get lynched after this game.
8 Sep 2012, 10:08 am
Nonu shaves his eyebrows.
Epic fashion fail.
8 Sep 2012, 10:08 am
Argentina have always had a great pack, when you play the best, you have to bring your best or get found out and embarrassed.
8 Sep 2012, 10:09 am
Aaah Dawnie ur the only kind soul I managed to provoke reaction..
Ok ok… Back to the real game at hand.
Argies doing well questions is can they keep it up for 80 knowing the Kiwis have been the most spoilt I am terms of the least travel yet again..
8 Sep 2012, 10:09 am
If Argies get to the break trailing slightly it will be goo for them.
They’ll be with the wind in the second half.
8 Sep 2012, 10:10 am
THAT was forward to Savea
8 Sep 2012, 10:10 am
glad that was an Arg pen as it was forward to Savea
8 Sep 2012, 10:11 am
miles forward(from the replay). Are officials blind
8 Sep 2012, 10:11 am
@TASSIES-90: indeed it was…
8 Sep 2012, 10:11 am
Guns, during game you are restricted to two sentences!
8 Sep 2012, 10:11 am
Suddenly the Boks are looking pretty good, ne?
8 Sep 2012, 10:12 am
It would seem the AB’s are more affected by the conditions than the Argies. AND they have that old Wellington blowfest at their backs. I’m wondering about the second half now.
8 Sep 2012, 10:13 am
AB players offside at the maul pulling Puma players off the maul in front of the referee.
8 Sep 2012, 10:13 am
@kaksioek-95: wouldn’t go that far
8 Sep 2012, 10:13 am
Great refereeing. Not taking the all black cheating. Very refreshing.
8 Sep 2012, 10:13 am
@poppa69-93: howzit Pops. You well mate? Observing things from the relative safety of Oz?
8 Sep 2012, 10:14 am
AB forward pass missed by ref again.
8 Sep 2012, 10:14 am
@WP
Not just AB supporters.
You’ll find a few of your brethren down south were bleating properly as well.
Jeez as roncero breaks Smith.
8 Sep 2012, 10:15 am
Love this Argie gees
Skrik vir niks!
8 Sep 2012, 10:15 am
@onerb-99: Poite is a good ref, called Munster out on their cheating after years of them getting away with it
8 Sep 2012, 10:15 am
Conrad Smith got folded like J.Potgieter by Roncero
An ArgyBargy goin down in Cane’s Town
8 Sep 2012, 10:15 am
argies competing real well, can they go the full 80?
8 Sep 2012, 10:15 am
All blacks failing to hold on to the ball again. Shocking precision, killing all fot heir momentum.
8 Sep 2012, 10:16 am
Ab’s looking a bit clueless at the moment.
8 Sep 2012, 10:16 am
This is why Henry did not play the offload game to the extent NZ is doing it tonight. Great if it works for you, but tonight and 2nd test against against Ireland are examples of the opposite effect.
8 Sep 2012, 10:16 am
Bear in mind that the Boks beat the Pumas by 21 points in the game in SA.
8 Sep 2012, 10:16 am
@poppa69-93: Wellington is one beautiful little city but can put on an ugly weather when riled I experienced first hand to my detriment. Forced me into some unscheduled liquid refreshments in Cuba Street.
8 Sep 2012, 10:17 am
Argies trying to stay on their feet, we should try that too as it gives support players time to assist.
8 Sep 2012, 10:18 am
What a tackle!!!
8 Sep 2012, 10:18 am
I’m bored of the ABs
Want Argie to win
8 Sep 2012, 10:18 am
@kaksioek-110: bear in mind the conditions are a little different
@TASSIES-111: It is always dodgy flying into Welly, thats for sure..
well done on the first half the Argies, good to see
8 Sep 2012, 10:19 am
all black handling was atrocious even at Eden Park…they made 30 handling errors that night, they’re looking to matching that tonight.
8 Sep 2012, 10:19 am
Oh this second half will be interesting.
Wind at Hernandez back.
8 Sep 2012, 10:19 am
Argie nearly coughed up a try, that would have been needless. Good half from them, NZ need to up the aggression at the contact point.
8 Sep 2012, 10:19 am
What nonsense that the ref called advantage over there. Pumas are going to win this!
8 Sep 2012, 10:19 am
@kaksioek-95: No mate…..what the Boks dished up in Mendoza was still utter kak, regardless of how good the Argies were/are.
I think we should wait and see what the AB’s do after the break before excusing the Boks 80 minutes of sh y te….
You also need to remember that we would have been smashed even more at the breakdown if Leguizamo had played….ditto that we didn’t face Juan Martin Hernandez and his boot either.
Imagine that.
8 Sep 2012, 10:20 am
Poppa106
I think that is the real question here. Played their hearts out this 1st 40.
8 Sep 2012, 10:20 am
second half the kings of steak have the Welly Worst at their backs. Wonder if they’ll use this to best effect.
8 Sep 2012, 10:21 am
120 – and the boks were at full strength right?
8 Sep 2012, 10:22 am
magnificent argies!
Ole!
you are defo my new 2nd team.
that fernandez lobbe is a magnificent player, would make any bok team imo.
8 Sep 2012, 10:22 am
@John Galt-121: great to see though from them, really showing their inclusion is deserved and that they are probably a lot better then their 8 ranking..
8 Sep 2012, 10:22 am
@poppa69-115: luckily I drove into town. When I saw that airport(on my tour of the burbs) I said to myself “this is not one for me”. Ferry ride to Picton was interesting too.
8 Sep 2012, 10:23 am
Some match this! Loving the Argies take no prisioners approach…..
we choose the right team we can take Kiwis…..
8 Sep 2012, 10:23 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-120: Regardless of what happens after the break, it is already quite obvious that the Pumas are no joke. You have an agenda to support, I know, but that is looking very shaky now.
8 Sep 2012, 10:23 am
well after that first half im starting to think the boks didnt do to badly to get that draw. The pumas are definitely here to play rugby .
Hopefully they can continue like this throughout the comp . AUS NZ and SA were getting complacent being the top 3 this extra challenge will give them a good wake up call.
Hate to be the team that finishes below the pumas this year
8 Sep 2012, 10:23 am
Well who would have thought this would have been the score at the break….
Pumas holding their own right now.
@TASSIES-122: hahahaha. “Kings of the steak”…..
So far going to plan for our Boks.
8 Sep 2012, 10:23 am
Great game, really enjoying this ugly affair. 6-5 is an enormous effort by the visitors. Please do not compare games as this weather is nothing of the like that previous games were played in. Give Argentina the credit they deserve
8 Sep 2012, 10:23 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-120: what are you on about
we are watching the game that is on NOW.
ab’s can get phucked.
8 Sep 2012, 10:24 am
Ah Pedigree. Making excuses already.
You telling me that, regardless of the outcome of this match, the first 40 by the ABs is better than what we saw from the Boks in Mandoza.
Your argument is failing properly boet.
These Argies are forking tough and instead of congratulating them you went off on an anti HM crusade.
8 Sep 2012, 10:24 am
tT IS HARD TO pass legally when playing with that wind. Given the amount of ball the abs will be better against the wind. Ask the dingoes about the first ever 3N match.
8 Sep 2012, 10:24 am
very similar to the 1/4 final, ABs only led by 5 at half time then..
8 Sep 2012, 10:25 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-120: I do not think anyone disagrees that the Boks were poor. What is unexpected for me is that the Argentina game is not one where you will win easily when you have a bad game. The fact that they can beat you on their night makes the competition very good and better than when Italy were brought into the Five Nations. Within 5 years Argentina will be in the top five of World rugby. The Kings should look to bring in some Argies for super rugby. Not their backs, but guys like Roncero, Leguizamon and Albacete
8 Sep 2012, 10:25 am
We could only gain perspective once all the teams have played each other. Argies an unknown quantity as yet.
8 Sep 2012, 10:25 am
Ha Ranger!
Tell me how we got here?
8 Sep 2012, 10:26 am
@G10
What like picking a fetcher. As good as mcaw for example?
Hes been very quiet so far in this rough tough type of game.
8 Sep 2012, 10:26 am
@grant10-127: “Flo is straining at the leash”
8 Sep 2012, 10:26 am
@poppa69-125: I second that. They add a new dimension certainly. I recall their game against France in the 07 WC. How good were they then? No, I never underestimate the Argies. Good value.
8 Sep 2012, 10:26 am
@onerb-123: No we weren’t. But you are blind if you can’t see the effect Leguizamo and Hernandez are having.
The fact is: the Bok team on the day were woeful, and the AB’s have been woeful this 1st half trying to be flat track bullies in a hurricane.
We are celebrating a false dawn if we think the AB’s performance today in any way cancels out the obvious Bok weaknesses; WHICH will hopefully be less evident today against Australia…..
8 Sep 2012, 10:27 am
Pedigree taking a pasting.
Farking fool. Love it.
8 Sep 2012, 10:27 am
@boktillzero
Teams dingoes and bokke
8 Sep 2012, 10:28 am
Still can’t give the Argies credit can you Pedigree?
8 Sep 2012, 10:28 am
@poppa69-135: Do you remember the weather conditions that night? Not trying to be sarcastic, just asking. I think this weather can make life very difficult for the All Blacks in this 2nd half and this game can therefore not be compared.
8 Sep 2012, 10:28 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-120: revisiting this comment its the biggest load of poo ruckles.
seriously.
the argies have a try, the abs not.
same same.
this argie team is no joke and just shows how arrogant bok supporters have been (yes, you are being made to look arrogant by the magnificent argies).
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
NZs lack of accuracy is disappointing
they need to get back to basic mistake free rugby and the points will come
The lineouts are fine and they are all over the Argies at scrumtime
just need to stop going for 50-50 big glory plays
and stick to simple and efficient rugby
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
Someone forgot to pay the light bill!
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
Haha, all blacks trying to sabotage this game.
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-120: Yes but what you have to remember that Walsh too let them get away with a lot at the breakdowns. Here is a French ref who is reffing a lot better.
Let us see how the Blacks go after the break like you say to judge our bad we were last wee. And I thought we were terrible. Now Abs are looking much the same on their HOME turf….hehe. Loving it though. Just think ABs could pull away in the 2nd half. If they don’t score the 4 tries we win today we still could be in it. That is if we beat Oz.
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
@Puma-130: Howzit Pumes. Durbs treating you well mate? This game – I’m enthralled.
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
Wouldnt put it past them.
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
@Horings-136: The Pumas will be ranked fourth in no time at all. They could very well win this game, and they will beat the Wallabies twice – unless the Aussies can somehow find a way to play the whole game with their backs. The Wallabies forwards are far too soft to beat the Pumas.
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
Lights out in windy Wellington
8 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
@Puma-151: our = how
8 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
Kiwis giving themselves more time to regroup!
8 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
I luv u bakeries is going to have a field day with this.
Conspiracy theorist that he is.
8 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
Oh, I see last Argies game was no fluke, they aren’t tournament whipping boys at all. Very glad to see that.
8 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
@Dawn-138: where?
howdy btw!
8 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
@poppa69-135: yep i kept reminding everyone that the score was 18 -10 in the 65th min all the pts from weepu’s boot…ABs only scored after argies were down to 10 men…
8 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
Just kidding fellow nz bloggers. This might suit argies as they can rest longer.
8 Sep 2012, 10:31 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-142: Do you think Kruger for Bekker, Pienaar for Hougaard, Vermeulen for Potgieter and Louw for Daniel will improve our execution today?
8 Sep 2012, 10:31 am
@TASSIES-152: Yeah always great here. Had plenty rain here this week. Today awesome, what can I say? Life is great here..lol.
How you doing Tassies? Hope well.
8 Sep 2012, 10:31 am
@John Galt-143: You think the Boks are without problems. Glad to hear it farking fool.
8 Sep 2012, 10:31 am
@Horings-146: full credit to the Argies, have come to play and are not taking a backward step.
8 Sep 2012, 10:32 am
Fk can’t watch the second half.
The Argis are playing a cracker here and have proven the likes of pedigree and his ilk as impostors.
I suspect the ABs will be too strong in the end though.
Good luck all.
8 Sep 2012, 10:32 am
@John Galt-139: Brussow…Flo
Bobs your aunt
8 Sep 2012, 10:32 am
Fitzpatrick reckons they’ve turned off the lights to hide Graham Henry
8 Sep 2012, 10:33 am
haha, ab’s out of puff so they kept the lights off.we all know that
they are having 7 kinds of k u k smashed out of them by the argies and HATING it.
it seems that the argies play a very similar confrontational physical game as s africa and we all now that the ab’s have historically been troubled most by the boks.
go argies!
8 Sep 2012, 10:33 am
Cracking stuff – come Argies to really set the bird amongst the pigeons.
World champs?
8 Sep 2012, 10:33 am
Wonder if we can sub commentators
8 Sep 2012, 10:33 am
@kaksioek-154: The weather is a big factor and I think in dry conditions the Wallabies will be favourites against Argentina in Aus. Whether the argies pitch up for the game will also be a big factor. They are the France of Southern Hemisphere rugby.
8 Sep 2012, 10:33 am
So the light is back?
8 Sep 2012, 10:33 am
@Transformation-161: guess we’ll see how good a coach Shag is now… Fosters influence on the AB backs already showing, look how poor he was with that chiefs backline…
8 Sep 2012, 10:34 am
Go Argies….go boys!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 10:34 am
Wow, good to see Argies giving the ABs a bit of a problem. ABs have ruined a few opportunities again which needs to be fixed. They cant keep playing like that.
8 Sep 2012, 10:34 am
Ranger that debate last night!
Oh btw filthy kiwis turning the lights out? Pfft!
8 Sep 2012, 10:34 am
@Puma-151: I can’t see NZ scoring 4 tries….Winning for us is non-negotiable now (puts us back in the game if AB’s don’t get a bonus point here)
8 Sep 2012, 10:34 am
hmmm wonder how this extended half time break will affect the game .
might work in the ABs favour
8 Sep 2012, 10:35 am
If the lights don’t come back on it will be a draw…
8 Sep 2012, 10:35 am
@cab-171: we havent lost 19-0 at home yet Cab, remember that one?
8 Sep 2012, 10:35 am
farken Kiwi Eskom??
8 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
@boktillzero-180: I feel the same. The long break will allow the ABs to regroup. Then again it could give the Argies some time to recover. They have put in a lot in that first half.
8 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
jeepers…..what a tragedy….
8 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
@poppa69-175: an argie wim will really set this competition on fire
8 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
no man….this is a kak one
8 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
Territorial game would be the go this half for all blacks
8 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-179: For sure. If the Abs don’t pick up the bonus point and we win our game today. We are back in the hunt.
8 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
@John Galt-167: I’m an impostor because I find fault with Heyneke Meyer and some of his selections and decisions?
No mate – the impostors are the so called fans who try and justify every sh y tty Bok performance with a flurry of excuses.
But, like you, I’m hoping like hell the Boks manage to pull off a win today….
8 Sep 2012, 10:38 am
They did it on purpose
Now I’m sommer gatvol bevok
8 Sep 2012, 10:38 am
@Transformation-186: can you imagine this place? farken hell lol
8 Sep 2012, 10:38 am
@poppa69-175:
Got to hand to the Argies
They got some real mongrel
8 Sep 2012, 10:38 am
do you think an All Black sparkie supporter got gatvol and flicked a switch in disgust?
8 Sep 2012, 10:39 am
@Dawn-191: surely, if it was on purpose Hansen wouldnt have gone back to the coaches box? he would have stayed in the changerooms?
8 Sep 2012, 10:39 am
@poppa69-175: i bet the NZRU will pull the plug on Ted coaching the argies hehehe…he’s really upped their game
8 Sep 2012, 10:39 am
Either way this game is now a farce due to the light situation.
8 Sep 2012, 10:40 am
Popps – u must be poeping a bit – this is at home too -maybe the bokke are actually the best, even this rebuilding side..
8 Sep 2012, 10:40 am
@spartan-193: yep, fighting tough, its great… they will only improve the more they play in this comp too
8 Sep 2012, 10:40 am
@TASSIES-194: hahahahahaha. Good one…
8 Sep 2012, 10:41 am
@Horings-163: Out of those 3, the most important: Ruan Pienaar IMHO. Depending on which version of Ruan Pienaar runs out today of course….
8 Sep 2012, 10:41 am
Hopefully new Zealand re-learned how to catch at half time.
8 Sep 2012, 10:41 am
This perfomance by Argentina could inspire Aus to a 4 try bonus point win
8 Sep 2012, 10:41 am
Howveryfuckingconvenient
8 Sep 2012, 10:41 am
wonder who this break will benefit, maybe the Argies won’t tire so quick with the extra rest? not sure, very amateur for the lights to go out though
8 Sep 2012, 10:41 am
@cab-198: counted all them chickens Cab? lots of time to go, if the Argies do pull it off I will be one of the first to congratulate them..
8 Sep 2012, 10:41 am
cool….sorted….now go moer them argies
8 Sep 2012, 10:42 am
An enthralling contest, a change in tactics needed with Abs using the pick and go more…..and perhaps abit of glue to eliminate handling mistakes.
8 Sep 2012, 10:42 am
Duck worth Lewis going to play a part!!! Lol
8 Sep 2012, 10:43 am
Ref taking no kak from ab, love it
8 Sep 2012, 10:43 am
@Big Hit-205: Reminds me of a certain game in the 1995 RWC here in SA (same sort of weather as well…)
8 Sep 2012, 10:43 am
Bloody farce
8 Sep 2012, 10:44 am
Kiwi scrum really battling.
8 Sep 2012, 10:44 am
All Blacks have left more points on the field in the last 3 tests than they have scored all season. Romain Poite is A Typical French ref during scrum time.
8 Sep 2012, 10:44 am
Mccaw throwing a tantrum
8 Sep 2012, 10:44 am
@Puma-164: can’t bemoan my spot in life Pumes. All good. Heading up to Knysna tomorrow. After a morning ride in the vineyards here. Be a fools to complain.
8 Sep 2012, 10:44 am
@Te Rangatira-208: kia ora te ranga…
argies putting big hits on ya boys
8 Sep 2012, 10:44 am
Ref is keeping the blacks accountable, must be a first for them.
8 Sep 2012, 10:46 am
Popps
fingers McCaw almost certainly behind the power outage – seems like barnesey will have to watch him on and off the pitch – this is v poor form by the ABs to try win in this way.
8 Sep 2012, 10:46 am
Poor decision by Argies, poor all round attack by abs.
8 Sep 2012, 10:46 am
Messam should never have been dropped. Far more stones than Vito.
8 Sep 2012, 10:47 am
Tonight of all nights kiwis decide to remind everyone that they third world
8 Sep 2012, 10:47 am
AB’s certainly playing closer to the forwards now. Patience game in the 2nd it seems.
8 Sep 2012, 10:47 am
@cab-219: haha ok Cab, have another sip of the conspiracy muti mate..
8 Sep 2012, 10:48 am
who was that bearded samoan?
8 Sep 2012, 10:48 am
@Dawn-222: you mean like the two years of power cuts Capetown had Dawn?
8 Sep 2012, 10:49 am
In from the side? Wait he’s not kiwi, do play on.
8 Sep 2012, 10:49 am
Messam’s daytime job – Boswell Wilkie.
8 Sep 2012, 10:49 am
the argie was miles offside
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
Geezer McCaw looks out of it.
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
@Transformation-217:
Howzit Trans……fricken Argies playing it hard….causing Abs massive problems
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
@Big Hit-225: Charlie Faumuina
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
Slightly better by the allblacks, but still bad handing creeping in.
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
still plenty mistakes by the men in black. Pressure from gringos in blue.
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
@CSI:Rugby-227: ruck’s over when the 9 picks up the ball
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
Just woke up…
To this scoreline on such a beautiful morning !!!!!!!!!!
VAMOS PUMAS!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 10:50 am
bloody hell this is a cool match ….
Come on Argies….this may be the biggest upset since Clay vs Liston…
8 Sep 2012, 10:51 am
these argies are awesome!
what a team.
go ARGENTINA!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 10:51 am
ABs too passive in contact, they need to roll up the sleeves and get physical. Only way to mute a stout defensive line is to play this pick and go game.
8 Sep 2012, 10:51 am
Indeed pops
Now maybe you quit slagging us off
You not immune
8 Sep 2012, 10:52 am
@poppa69-226: No. We’ve been well lit Pops. 3 or 4 back certainly.
8 Sep 2012, 10:52 am
lmao Smith got emptied
8 Sep 2012, 10:52 am
what defence by JMH…
8 Sep 2012, 10:52 am
what a tackle argies!
after a clear obstruction for nonus break.
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
Conrad Smith gets sold.
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
NZ setting themselves up again before spilling it.
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
@Transformation-229: Bakkies (bless his little heart) will be knitting Mr Pointe a matching scarf and beanie as thanks.
If Bakkies praises the Argies, he will indirectly be praising Graham Henry….that should be interesting
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
That was a BOOM!
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
@Dawn-240: im just slagging off the conspiracy fools…seems anything that happens is set up for NZ? its laughable
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
what a hit on Smith. Bam. End of.
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
In from the side big hit, Smith had not touched the ball
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
Puma tackling is awesome. How about that from a flyhalf?
8 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
Sod the rugby
Some of these argies are HOT
Sizzle
8 Sep 2012, 10:54 am
Poor call.
8 Sep 2012, 10:54 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-247:
8 Sep 2012, 10:54 am
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mccaw is looking pretty pedestrian so far.
will he hang on too long?
8 Sep 2012, 10:55 am
Argentina lineout is shocking, NZ should be kicking to touch as often as they can.
Thought that turnover was good to be honest, 3 points NZ they’ve started the half well.
9-5
8 Sep 2012, 10:56 am
and if the Arg were to score from this position. Now would’nt that make life interesting?
8 Sep 2012, 10:56 am
The ABs will come through. Shows though that the Argies are not a terrible side. They will keep getting better over the years and be a real threat.
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-247: now imagine what WS would’ve done for the bokke.
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
how can you feel anything but love for these argies?
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
silly stuff by Hore.. Argies should convert this penalty
the booing is pathetic, hate it!
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
Nanu, Cruden, C Smith, McCaw and Savea looking poor at this stage.
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
Classy wellington, booos all round before the kick.
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
Is that some booing I hear?
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
Rodriguez
not having a good one
8 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
That should have been a yellow against Hore.
8 Sep 2012, 10:58 am
lineout and goalkicking Arg achillies heel
8 Sep 2012, 10:58 am
Argies showing again: Get numbers to the break down and push the opposition off the ball.
Hope the Bok forwards see that, especially our loosies.
All Blacks to win by 12-15.
8 Sep 2012, 10:58 am
Poppa I’m with you on the booing, and the howling whistles, wish all rugby fans were like the Irish fans
8 Sep 2012, 10:59 am
this rodriguez fool missed 3 sitters at Newlands!
phelan get hernandez to kick ffs!
8 Sep 2012, 10:59 am
This is poor sportsmanship – booing the brave underdogs like this – terrible.
8 Sep 2012, 10:59 am
@poppa69-262: agree. We have similiar in CT. Disgusting. No place in the game for that ****.
8 Sep 2012, 11:00 am
Argies proving their ability at highest level, great for world rugby.
8 Sep 2012, 11:01 am
Booing by locals and howling whistles by argie fans = Pathetic
8 Sep 2012, 11:01 am
Hernandez offered? Why’d they turn him down?
8 Sep 2012, 11:01 am
@TASSIES-273: agree mate, why not enjoy the way the Argies have shown up
8 Sep 2012, 11:02 am
and then mccaw makes me eat my words lol
8 Sep 2012, 11:02 am
romano MONSTERED!!!
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
a yellow is bs for that ref.
home crowd booing disgusting.
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
And Bakkies stops knitting that little scarf and beanie
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
fair call I guess…after seeing the replay..
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
@poppa69-277: We are not enjoying it, we are loving it
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
awesome hit on Romano, shame about the yellow
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
Shutup mccaw.
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
Different rules against the All Blacks, hey? Yellow card?
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
no man, game over.
8 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
Professional foul which saved a try.
8 Sep 2012, 11:04 am
same as in the 1/4 final argies got a yellow & ABs capitalised…
8 Sep 2012, 11:04 am
that was a shame. Game might have swung on this one.
8 Sep 2012, 11:04 am
Yellow card going to spoil a great match
Was a legitimate card though.
8 Sep 2012, 11:04 am
Wow
8 Sep 2012, 11:04 am
CHAOS!!!
8 Sep 2012, 11:04 am
Amazing, really amazing.
8 Sep 2012, 11:04 am
The player who was carded knocked that ball back – can that be regarded as an infringement?
8 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
NZ have targeted the Argentinian set-piece really well. They’ve had no lineout or scrum platform.
8 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
Conrad Smith is getting a hard game tonight!
8 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
Rangerman,
Listen to the argies as well it’s ugly by all fans involved.
8 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
@willievz-283:
understandable mate.. Im loving it myself, albeit very nervous..
8 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
argies still in the hunt but this yellow was sickening.
8 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
Would that have been a yellow against any team other than the ABs?
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
Banana kick
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
that banana kick
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
Messam offside from Cruden kick!
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
@poppa69-299: You should pull this one through mate
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
Maradonna would have been proud of that one. what a beaut
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
Go Pumas, hold on.
I have no doubts, NZ will win, would be brilliant for Pumas to get a bonus point though.
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
Amazing skills by JMH!
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
what a kick!
very very skillful.
@CSI:Rugby-298: agreed, i hate it.
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
Ricky’s twin brother on.
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
Tackled in the air. Not blown
8 Sep 2012, 11:06 am
What a kick!
8 Sep 2012, 11:07 am
@301 yes. What punishment would you give for a a professional foul to stop a try scoring move?
8 Sep 2012, 11:07 am
no one running off hernandez.
wake up argies.
8 Sep 2012, 11:07 am
They couldn’t catch a cold if they tried, the all black backs
8 Sep 2012, 11:08 am
@willievz-305: not over yet mate, we have had the better of the half so far. Foster is farking up our backs though
8 Sep 2012, 11:08 am
yup thats what we used to call it. The banana.
8 Sep 2012, 11:08 am
@Pencil-313: it was very debatable mate.
looked like he went for the ball which is fair play.
bs yellow.
8 Sep 2012, 11:09 am
Hmm, dunno about that. He certainly went for the ball, but it looked like he was trying to prevent the pass by slapping it down rather than intercept it. Maybe I’ll have to watch it again.
8 Sep 2012, 11:09 am
the boks scored 3 tries in capetown.
puts things in perspective imo.
cant wait to see the aussies and abs travel to argiebargie land.
8 Sep 2012, 11:10 am
@TASSIES-317: and not very easy to execute. Bloody brilliant by that Arg.
8 Sep 2012, 11:10 am
@rangerman-318: learn the rules mate..
8 Sep 2012, 11:10 am
Kookwater
8 Sep 2012, 11:11 am
Yellow and light failure marred this game.
8 Sep 2012, 11:11 am
Fantastic defence by the Pumas.
8 Sep 2012, 11:11 am
@Pencil-319: nah mate, no slap down at all imo.
too much emotion by the ref.
weepu adding some urgency.
8 Sep 2012, 11:12 am
too good abs.
well done.
8 Sep 2012, 11:12 am
Conrad Smith – best 13 in the game today..
8 Sep 2012, 11:12 am
GREAT TRY
KIWIS WILL NOT BE LOOKING FORWARD TO TRIP TO aRGIES THOUGH…
8 Sep 2012, 11:12 am
good try. Was kinda expecting that with 14 defending. Arg is tiring methinks.
8 Sep 2012, 11:12 am
@poppa69-322: open both eyes mate.
8 Sep 2012, 11:12 am
good try, has to be said, Argentina need to hold on now and not capitulate like they did at the World Cup
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
@rangerman-326:
It certainly came off his outstretched hand and went down. The only question is; was he going for an intercept, or was he trying to spoil? My first impression was that he was just trying to get in the way, but I’d have to see it again.
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
@kaksioek-325:
Yep, excellent defense from the Pumas.
@rangerman-326:
Slap down, close to penalty try imo
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
@rangerman-320: True, just do not forget, that was first Argie game in the comp, they looked very nervous. I do not think life for the Boks would have been that easy had they met in CT next week with Argie confidence skyrocketing after following 2 performances.
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
Smith a national kiwi treasure…
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
That was the knockout blow… but very impressed by the Pumas – they’re in it for the business, I’d even back them to avoid the wooden spoon this year.
Today they’ve played better than I expect our Bokke to.
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
argies need to get down the abs half.
hard when you are a man down though.
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
Well, that extra 10 minute break and sending a man off paid off. Congrats.
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
Good try, a final pass that final stuck, first in a long while. Buenos Aires well be epic. Argentina well take away massive belief from here regardless of result.
8 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
All Blacks usually score between 10 and 15 points when they play against 14 men.
Today they score in the last minute of the 10 that the Argie is in the sin bin. Pity the Argies could not hold out one more minute.
Good try.
8 Sep 2012, 11:14 am
@Big Hit-332:
Yep, we only won by slotting penalties in that game.
Argies are really a handful
8 Sep 2012, 11:14 am
The Allblacks precision is a lot better in the second half and they’re looking a lot better because of this. It has to be said though, the Argies defence has made the AB’s attack look rather impotent.
8 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
And therein lies the difference between the Boks and AB’s thus far. When Plan A doesn’t work (the offload game), go to plan B and be patient….
Or what say you John Galt?
8 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
Arg back to 15. But I think the game has already stepped out of their reach. good performance in spite of though.
8 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
Normality resumed, yet all credit to those Latin warriors…….nice wakeup call for Abs……massive backlash next week
8 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
Messam has added some starch since coming on, think he now oversteps Vito for the 6 spot..
8 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
Where’s Transie, waiting for him to give me an update on “the best nr8 in the game”
8 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
Aaaah feckit
8 Sep 2012, 11:16 am
@Hurricane-334: ag there was no slap down bud, that just nonsense.
watch it again.
and again.
8 Sep 2012, 11:16 am
Ref decided not to blow nz at rucks anymore. More of the same
8 Sep 2012, 11:16 am
just no Bonus point….asseblieftog
8 Sep 2012, 11:17 am
@willievz-348:
Every player can have an off day dont you think?
8 Sep 2012, 11:17 am
Could have been a red card for second professional foul
8 Sep 2012, 11:17 am
@rangerman-350:
Do you agree that it came off his outstretched hand and went down?
8 Sep 2012, 11:17 am
Forward pass
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
Anyone else notice back in the first half (forward pass to Savea) that the tackling Argie intentionally bent Savea’s leg back? I’m predicting a citing.
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
@Nils-335: well the boks are done with them so they are your problem now
another try abs.
well done.
i back the argies to take the abs a lot closer at home.
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
now that was a brilliant try. Absolutely sublime.
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
farkit….please Argies….fight boys…
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
pass looked forward
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
Carter, rest up well, we will need you in a fortnight.
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
Feckin Corey from the Hutts
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
@rangerman-350:
I have, he went to tackle the player, got the player and put the hand out to stop the next pass, simple. He stopped a try.
8 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
@Hurricane-353: Day off?
He is a journeyman when things get slightly physical.
8 Sep 2012, 11:19 am
The fat lady starting to warm up.
Great try.
Weepu making the BIG difference. Who said he was finished?
8 Sep 2012, 11:19 am
Fatties ran out of steam as expected.
8 Sep 2012, 11:19 am
Was always going to be about the last 15min when the game opens up.
8 Sep 2012, 11:19 am
Great conversion
8 Sep 2012, 11:19 am
@Hurricane-353: Some Bok players have the luxury of being afforded 50 off games……
Sidenote: Piri always looks a better player in an AB jersey.
8 Sep 2012, 11:19 am
@Big Hit-361:
lol
Can you see forward passes now?
8 Sep 2012, 11:20 am
Messam is a hell of a player to have coming off the bench.
8 Sep 2012, 11:20 am
Argies are brave okes….fearless…
8 Sep 2012, 11:20 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-370:
Yep.
Piri coming on has looked better than Smith.
8 Sep 2012, 11:20 am
@rangerman-358: Agree on all counts here.
8 Sep 2012, 11:20 am
Fatties???????
8 Sep 2012, 11:20 am
@Pencil-355: yes.
thats called a knock on.
@Hurricane-364: and stopping a try or going for asn intercept is a yellow card?
cmon man pull the other one.
8 Sep 2012, 11:21 am
Shoulder charge on Richie….what do you all think?
8 Sep 2012, 11:21 am
haha, reechee dived like a soccer ponce.
8 Sep 2012, 11:21 am
Agulla on McCaw
8 Sep 2012, 11:21 am
Richie soccer dive mccaw
8 Sep 2012, 11:22 am
@Dawn-376:
Yes, check the forwards…. lots of spare tubes… bad conditioning if you ask me.
8 Sep 2012, 11:22 am
heat on Heyneke….
what a thriller in prospect in Perth…
8 Sep 2012, 11:22 am
Love the Kiwi commentators laughing at Ritchie
8 Sep 2012, 11:22 am
@rangerman-377:
and do you think he had a legitimate chance of catching it? Did it look to you like he was trying to? if not, then that’s a yellow card offence.
8 Sep 2012, 11:22 am
@Hurricane-378: dont waste your time Hurri, theyve all been deflated because the Argies arent going to win now… very brave effort and they should be proud,,
8 Sep 2012, 11:23 am
and then got up in a huff.
even the kiwi commetators had a laugh
8 Sep 2012, 11:23 am
@rangerman-377:
lol
Does not matter. Knocked it down in the process…..yellow card. It has been called.
The rule is a line call anyway.
8 Sep 2012, 11:23 am
It was a legit yellow card, look at the replay, his hand slapped the ball down, interception effort our attempt, hand slaps ball in upward motion.
8 Sep 2012, 11:23 am
So the ABs are allowed to throw forward passes and skew line out feeds are also ok if you’re an AB.
8 Sep 2012, 11:23 am
@Robzim-382:
They make even the AB scrumhalf to look like a balerina on diet.
8 Sep 2012, 11:24 am
@Pencil-385: seriously bud, that was bs.
ruined the game imo.
haha, reechee giving away penalties now, a little gwumpy after seeing his backside
8 Sep 2012, 11:25 am
@CSI:Rugby-389: how can you slap a ball down in an upward motion?
no man, thats hilarious.
8 Sep 2012, 11:26 am
When does the Aussie game start?
8 Sep 2012, 11:26 am
so seems Mallett and Mitch got their predictions spot on pre-game. Know their stuff suppose.
8 Sep 2012, 11:26 am
@rangerman-392:
That call ruined the game???
lol,maybe for someone thats preying for an Argie win.
8 Sep 2012, 11:27 am
anyways, the yellow aside i have enjoyed the game.
well done abs.
must get ready for the real event.
have a good one and well done abs again.
8 Sep 2012, 11:27 am
So, with all the AN discrepancies pointed out by our massive fan base in the republic, do we remain silent on the argie play because they played a mighty game of rugby away from home? Give yourselves a wrap lads.
8 Sep 2012, 11:27 am
The game absolutely hinged on that dubious yellow card, and that leaves a sour taste in the mouth. The game in Argentina will be very interesting indeed. Any ref will think twice about carding Pumas there.
8 Sep 2012, 11:27 am
Piri pictured the ball as a mince pie and ripped it away from Argies
8 Sep 2012, 11:28 am
@rangerman-392:
But what part of it was bs? If he wasn’t legitimately trying to intercept that it was a yellow card. if he didn’t stick his hand out it was close to a certain try(although maybe not with the poor handling of NZ tonight).
It didn’t look to me like he made any effort to catch the ball, but I’d like to see it again, I could be wrong.
8 Sep 2012, 11:28 am
AB
8 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
@Te Rangatira-400:
Piri looked better than Smith, no matter what i think. Smith threw some shoddy passes and he is weak around the fringes and his box kick was lacking
8 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
Nothing against Cruden, he is phenomenal playmaker BUT: I don’t think that 1st half would have been quite as tight if Mr Carter was controlling things in those frenetic 40 minutes. Just feel he would have slowed the game down and put a stop to tactics that weren’t working.
Well done Argies – long may you fight!
Congrats AB’s.
8 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
2 conclusions from the game
1st The ABs turn the heat on when it matters
2nd I just love those Argies, well played – again!
8 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
well done both teams. AB’s for their comeback. Two great tries against great defence.
8 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
@kaksioek-399:
Ridiculous……yellow card was warranted…..deliberate knock down
8 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
good hard game of rugby, was a joy to watch… good warm up for the Saffas next week too..
Well done Argies.
8 Sep 2012, 11:30 am
@Te Rangatira-400:
Lol, to be fair to piri he seems to be only overweight now and no longer obese.
8 Sep 2012, 11:31 am
@kaksioek-399:
Your kidding?
Dont tell me the yellow card that stopped a try was the turning point.
8 Sep 2012, 11:31 am
@Hurricane-403:
Yep….Piri brought a calmness behind the Ab pack…a Legend
8 Sep 2012, 11:31 am
Mmmmm, not the smashing all were predicting!
8 Sep 2012, 11:31 am
Well done Abs.
Very well done to Pumas for not allowing the 4 tries.
And here we we so bliksem mad that we never got the 4 tries at home against them. So for equal unless Abs beat them on their turf which they probably will or who knows may not.
Come on Boks get the damn win today and try play with some style to get the 4 tries. We do that we most definitely back in the hunt.
8 Sep 2012, 11:31 am
CONGRATULATIONS to the ALL BLACKS and their supporters.
That’s how you absorb pressure.
Well played in the end.
Well done Argies. Your supporters can be proud. No team is going to find it easy against them.
Hope they are not buggered by injuries as the tournament progresses.
8 Sep 2012, 11:32 am
@Puma-413: double we…. one should have been – were
8 Sep 2012, 11:32 am
now we kiwis can relax and cheer on the Aussies…
always love having the early game
8 Sep 2012, 11:32 am
Argentina, Argentina, Argentina, well done lads, see you in Buenos Aires.
8 Sep 2012, 11:32 am
Well done agies. You guys have heart.
Oh and some mean forwards.
8 Sep 2012, 11:33 am
The AB’s missed SBW a lot today and will most likely miss him even more next week.
8 Sep 2012, 11:34 am
@whatever-412:
All?
Not i.
8 Sep 2012, 11:34 am
Honestly thought ABs would come out and smash the Argies. They never and also never got the 4 tries. A bit of a surprise for me today. Still think we should have got the 4 tries at home. Anyhow gone and dusted.
Now we need to play smart against those Aussies and pick up the win. We lose well that will be it all over for us this season.
8 Sep 2012, 11:34 am
@Te Rangatira-407: @Hurricane-410: That would not have been a yellow card if the Pumas were playing against SA. And yes, it was absolutely the turning point.
8 Sep 2012, 11:35 am
@Robzim-419:
True, although I think Nonu played okay. He wasn’t as influential as SBW, but I think he did a lot of good, without doing a lot wrong. Solid.
8 Sep 2012, 11:35 am
@whatever-412: Tell us who were those “all”.
8 Sep 2012, 11:35 am
@Puma-421: weather wasnt the greatest Puma
8 Sep 2012, 11:35 am
Argentina v Wallabies in Mendoza, I think I’ll put the house on the Argies, also Poppas, and Cannes house, trust lads it’s foregone conclusion
8 Sep 2012, 11:35 am
Winning a test match by 16 points is quite a beating imo.
Yes, they may have scored the majority of their points in the last 15 minutes but a game lasts 80 minutes, remember?
8 Sep 2012, 11:36 am
@kaksioek-422:
I think the point was that if he didn’t slap the ball down New Zealand would of scored anyway, which possibly still could of turned the game? But it’s impossible to know how that would of changed the game!
8 Sep 2012, 11:36 am
Argentina got away with murder
specially with releasing tackled player ,supporting own body weight and entering through the gate
8 Sep 2012, 11:37 am
@nama1-427:
…also keeping in mind that the weather was not great.
8 Sep 2012, 11:37 am
thank fark Bakkies is no longer watching these games..
the bloke would have had a heart attack with the light situation
8 Sep 2012, 11:38 am
@kaksioek-422:
hahaha
Dude you know how silly that sounds??
How can you say that would not be a yellow card if SA was playing?
We started the 2nd half better and gain momentum. If the guy didnt slap the ball down we had 2 players unmarked, he stopped a try. That would have been the turning point anyway.
8 Sep 2012, 11:38 am
@spartan-429: @spartan-429:
Maybe they did, but can you really put the AB’s performance down to that? Argies still smashed them on defence, and the ab’s couldn’t catch/retain possession. Nothing stuck, in the first half especially.
8 Sep 2012, 11:39 am
@Pencil-428: If that was an attempted intercept then at most it would have been a scrum for a knock-on.
8 Sep 2012, 11:39 am
Hate to say it but the All Blacks are going to miss SBW.
8 Sep 2012, 11:40 am
Kiwis done well….hung in and counterpunched….
Just glad no bonus point….
Now for the Perth Dance of the Desperate Dans Deans and Herr Himmler Meyer
8 Sep 2012, 11:40 am
@nama1-427: well SA won by 21 points.
Today was only 2 tries to 1 and Argentina missed quite a few points with the boot. I think Argentina can be proud of themselves and look forward to the return leg.
They’ve done you boys a favour denying NZ the bonus, it’s up to your Boks to take advantage of it.
8 Sep 2012, 11:40 am
@spartan-429:
lol
These guys here missed all that. All threy saw was Kwiw forward passes and the slap down that stopped a try that to a few of them should not have been.
But Argies did well to get away with what they did. They got caught a few times as well but really slowed us down alot. Around the fringes they took us apart
8 Sep 2012, 11:40 am
@Hurricane-432: Depends on where you’re sitting, I guess. Well done. Enjoy it.
8 Sep 2012, 11:40 am
@kaksioek-434:
Aye, I’d like to see it again. I only saw the replay once and it looked like a thinly veiled attempt to spoil to me, but I’m open to be proven wrong once a replay is out.
8 Sep 2012, 11:41 am
@poppa69-431:
lol
He watched,he is at the moment looking at his keyboard and shaking
8 Sep 2012, 11:42 am
Live feed for the Bok game ? anyone got a good site ? Tv down and can’t go out.
8 Sep 2012, 11:42 am
Live feed: http://www.vipboxsports.eu/watch/66792/8/the-rugby-championship—new-zealandvsargentina-live-stream-online.html
Enjoy.
8 Sep 2012, 11:43 am
@goforthegap00-442: coolsport.tv/stream4.php
8 Sep 2012, 11:43 am
Argies defence was unreal today but unless they improve their attacking game and bring some variety into their game they will not win a match in this competition.
8 Sep 2012, 11:43 am
@Hurricane-432: It totally depends on who is playing.
If instead of ABs there would have been Boks playing Pumas you can bet hour house that you would not hear a single complaint about the card, every local would be screaming blue for it.
8 Sep 2012, 11:43 am
@grant10-436:
What he’s a nazi now?
Any other playground insults.
You sound sillier than just buggery with his Broederbond nonsense.
8 Sep 2012, 11:43 am
The Pumas will clean up the dingoes next week and then beat them at home. The Dingoes will beat the Bokke at least once. So wooden spoon is a fight between the Dingoes and the Bokke.
Next week the Kiwis on a dry track will be asked to take it easy after putting half a ton in the first half.
1. NZL
2. ARG
3. AUS
4. RSA
If you’re a blow-hard, man life sucks, and then you’re dead!
8 Sep 2012, 11:43 am
At any rate, the Pumas are going to shake things up enormously. I don’t think the Wallabies will be able to live with their physicality.
8 Sep 2012, 11:46 am
@nama1-291:
AB’s always need a leg up from the ref in NZ…. just like quarter finals … nail the Boks with Bryce and card the Argies to help them over the line.
8 Sep 2012, 11:46 am
Well done to the Pumas. Can see how this competition will make them stronger and stronger.
8 Sep 2012, 11:46 am
@Robzim-445: bit questionable rob after they were so close to turning over the Boks.
I think they stand a more than good chance of beating Australia in Argentina and NZ could come a cropper over there too if not careful.
8 Sep 2012, 11:48 am
@The Analyst-450:
Change your user name if thats what you think.
8 Sep 2012, 11:48 am
@AiDoc-448:
Willing to put money on that?
8 Sep 2012, 11:49 am
@goforthegap00
vipboxsport dot.eu
8 Sep 2012, 11:49 am
@The Analyst-450:
do you see dead people?
8 Sep 2012, 11:50 am
@AiDoc-448: This is the table at the moment, sunshine:
1 New Zealand 2 2 0 0 49 19 +46 0 0 12
2 South Africa 2 1 1 0 43 22 +21 0 0 6
3 Argentina 2 0 1 1 22 43 -37 0 0 2
4 Australia 2 0 0 2 19 49 -30 0 0 0
8 Sep 2012, 11:50 am
@pencil-443
@bighit-444
Cheers
8 Sep 2012, 11:50 am
@Big Hit-452:
Yep.
We now know how hard it is going to be in Argentina.
Boks should have lost, they got away with a draw. We cannot let Argies get
confidence up and hit them with all we got in first 20 mins.
8 Sep 2012, 11:51 am
@Big Hit-452:
Its just that they are so predictable- they have been playing like this for years- if they can add a bit more flair to their attack they will start winning more games- they are never easy to beat but hardly ever win a game against a top team (except occasionally against France).
8 Sep 2012, 11:51 am
@Hurricane-453:
Why?
It’s not like you’re really a hurricane.
More like a stale guff.
8 Sep 2012, 11:53 am
@gunther-461:
I support Hurricanes. Seems logical….. Gunther phhhtt
8 Sep 2012, 11:54 am
Now for the Deans/Meyer showdown.
Pleaseohfuckingplease may this vamped up Bok outfit pitch up and play today.
8 Sep 2012, 11:54 am
@Pencil-433:
That was part of the reason as it stalled the ABs momentum
Going too lateral was a problem too
I believe the main reason for the ‘droppsies is they are looking to play this high speed high risk game when simple basic rugby gets the job done
They are starting to remind me of the Waikato Chiefs of old
Trust me ,as soon as they dump Foster the sharpness and accuracy will return
8 Sep 2012, 11:54 am
In three year of our Lord 2019, the four semi finalists week be from three rugby championship, with all blacks winning it all of course
against Argentina in the final, heard it here first.
8 Sep 2012, 11:56 am
@The Analyst-450: Of course, they desparately needed a ref to get a semi with the 3N champs, consisting of many Super champs instead of out-of-sorts Boks.
Every ABs fan I know would welcome Boks with open arms in the semis instead of those wily Aussies as Boks certainly were the weakest of the 2. You do not lose 6 from 7 for nothing.
That cheating bleat should be written in your anthem at last.
8 Sep 2012, 11:56 am
The Kiwis are so predictable. No matter what you do or how well, they crush you! Anything we can do they can do better. Yes they can.
8 Sep 2012, 11:57 am
Just showed the knock down again…… Plain as can be.
Sorry Ranger and so called Analyst, yellow card was needed.
8 Sep 2012, 11:57 am
@spartan-464: Daniel Carter would have put a stop to that had he been there….Early in the 1st half already I reckon.
8 Sep 2012, 11:57 am
time to migrate to the SAf/Aus thread and be like our “hosts”
Cmon Aussies !
8 Sep 2012, 11:58 am
@AiDoc-467:
lol
8 Sep 2012, 11:59 am
@Hurricane-459: They will almost certainly be the ones doing the hitting in the first 20 over there. South African Jaco Peyper will be reffing the game in Rosario so could be interesting…
@Robzim-460: I hear you, they lost their two best centres to injury and unavailability (Contepomi & Tiesi) so their attack is impaired. Fernandez and Bosch are good defenders but very average on attack.
More immediately concerning for them is their inability to kick their points, their forwards do all the hard work just for their goal-kickers to waste it.
8 Sep 2012, 12:00 pm
@Big Hit-437: @Big Hit-437:
Yes. Boks need to win with a bonus point. Will be only one point behind NZ if they do and then the competition is still there for the taking.
Not too confident that they have it in them to do it. That loose trio is our weakness, I think.
@The Analyst-450:
‘Twas a legitimate yellow card.
Ask you this questio: If that was the Boks on the attack so close to the goalline with an overlap on the outside and Nonu made that tackle/slap the ball down, would you have called for the ref to give him a yellow card or not?
8 Sep 2012, 12:02 pm
Nz is kak… What a pathetic performance….. Boks will take them
8 Sep 2012, 12:02 pm
where did Cab disappear too, did he see how the WCs kicked on?
8 Sep 2012, 12:03 pm
If quota zane gets injured and is out for a year or so… We will kill the all blacks
8 Sep 2012, 12:03 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-469:
Totally agree
8 Sep 2012, 12:06 pm
@grant100-474:
They need to beat Ozzie first little peka fella
8 Sep 2012, 12:06 pm
@nama1-473: You know the answer well. It all depends on team one supports. Swap ABs with Boks in identical situation and every oke would be screaming blue for a card. Swap Pumas with Boks here and any card would be greeted with derision.
8 Sep 2012, 12:07 pm
@grant100-476:
Yep, dgood luck with that. One player is your problem you think?
8 Sep 2012, 12:12 pm
Nz looked very poor… In king heyneke we trust… Wonderkind hougaard will run circles around nz back 3
8 Sep 2012, 12:17 pm
Go Dingoes. In a few hours this site will be dedicated to ropeable Bokke fans grizzling about the referee in Perth.
8 Sep 2012, 12:19 pm
@Nils-479:
True.
8 Sep 2012, 14:49 pm
Okay I just saw the replay. That was certainly a professional foul and a deserved yellow.
8 Sep 2012, 23:29 pm
Good game. I hope the Wobblies & Saffas can bring that kind of intensity.
Its getting a little stale smashing the wobblies all the time.
ABs shouldn’t have too much difficulty with that boks gameplan on saturday, but if they decide to use Biz & Alberts running angles of Steyn & JdV they will be a handful.
Basson is class but underutilized.
Bomb & pray is for staehouse rugby or real rugby circa 2005
9 Sep 2012, 02:58 am
@grant100-474:
So who is an idiot now?
9 Sep 2012, 02:59 am
@Hurricane-478:
Yep, little peka failed, grant 100
9 Sep 2012, 19:49 pm
Anyone can help?
For our plan game the wind is not a help, in the first 40´ it help the Cruden´s kicks.
If I understand what Mr. Simon means is:
Puma dominance (or not the AB dominance) was an external factor: the weather.
Right?
If he is rigth, at the final of the match the wind comes again and the rain too?
The pumas dominates the wather or have the phone number of god?
In other hand I can´t understand:
Farías Cabello was right in his yellow card (I guess when the ball go back means undeliberable knock-on).
I guess when Manonu charged to Carriza with out ball, that means no yellow card, that was a demostration of the Kiwi Welcome Ceremony Army? But NEVER yellow card?
Conrad Smith committed three Pumas’ defenders or Rodriguez Gurruchaga didn´t follow the iron plan?
The second try is 100% our fault, We never read the regultaions of NFL, in these sport is possible do something invalid for the rugby union, AKA forward pass.
But now, leave the ironic words,
what happened?
The pumas now is in the 8° position.
Our pro players play outside.
Our clubs still amateurs like in the past century.
The Ab was a forgettable day, pumas was a day where show that they are learning or 50-50?
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