Comments on: Boks’ failure rooted in defence

By: SjamBok

SjamBok — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:29:40 +0000

Did anybody else notice how Frans Steyn butchered a three man overlap by skip passing to the last man in the line? FFS he has no clue as a distributor!! He should be playing as a fullback IMHO, joining the line at the last second at pace and with size, and breaking it. He is the problem in our backline.

By: Te Rangatira

Te Rangatira — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:02:33 +0000

Whats young Estebeth doing trying to be the designated hitman/enforcer, looks totally out of his depth for that role. Firstly you have to be accustomed to a razor for that job and you have to build a rep on and off the field to the point where your mere presence instills fear.Anyways I think the lad should be let off with a warning and told to pull his head in or a real enforcer may take it off.

By: husky

husky — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 11:56:20 +0000

@gwanty10 – how did you like that turboweverse scwum – against the Ozzies nogal and no JS to blame? Vark off back to support Namibia.

@kaizan, I agree with most of your points but I think the game plan is not crucial, provided you don’t be dof by kicking too much ball away senselessly. I would guess that Oz kicked as much, maybe even more, than the Boks. I think that what won NZ the RWC (aside from a pliant ref) was good drilling. The AB journeymen did the basics well; held their scrums and lineouts, protected that ball like demons, supported the ball carrier and had an organised defensive pattern. Then get quick ball and use turnover ball fullout and cleverly. NZ are not playing that well now but the memory of those drills and basics is still there.

The Boks haven’t really looked good on any of the above and I think may have gone backwards since their first England game. The opposition know the brekers like Alberts and watch him closely; he can’t keep doing what he did earlier. So I think Meyer, or his Bull bonehead coaching team, or both, are waaaay out of their depth. Leave Meyer, change the minions; Os/Balie Swart? for scrums, Vic M for lineouts, Rassie for the tackle ball etc and whoever WP’s defensive coach is.

Finally, leave Morne to kick but maybe move him to fullback like Percy. BUT he must understand that he needs to tackle or he’s back to Pretoria to stay. More than anything, the Boks need a reliable place kicker – should be one of the first 3 names on the sheet. Then hooker, then scrumhalf, maybe not too important after that.

By: NZINCHINA

NZINCHINA — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:34:56 +0000

If not this week then definitely next week.

By: NZINCHINA

NZINCHINA — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:33:50 +0000

Do you guys drop to 4th in the rankings now?

By: snivelling little kiwi pricks

snivelling little kiwi pricks — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:23:56 +0000

@NZINCHINA-102: ALWAYS DO

By: NZINCHINA

NZINCHINA — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 04:32:47 +0000

101 Enjoy the Sunday sports papers

By: snivelling little kiwi pricks

snivelling little kiwi pricks — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:29:11 +0000

@cane-99: I am as cheery as can be.Thanks for the concern though

By: Hurricane

Hurricane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:26:45 +0000

@cane-96: Yeah, hes bit of a joke really.

By: cane

cane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:26:43 +0000

@snivelling little kiwi pricks-95: Cheer up Sniveler, For fooks sake. It's only a game. (yeah right).

By: snivelling little kiwi pricks

snivelling little kiwi pricks — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:26:29 +0000

@Big Hit-94: Very true.

By: Hurricane

Hurricane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:25:35 +0000

@Big Hit-94:
Yep non refereeing decisions….. like 2007.
And where does it say we fixed it?? No where.
Your false claims are laughable.
Now 2007 RWC.
Barnes set it up as he knew the ABs would be playing the English if they won. He knew England had no chance and a better chance to against the French.
Cheated. Are you really that blind?

By: cane

cane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:24:40 +0000

@Hurricane-92:

Biggles is just fishing Hurricane.

Old Blighty manage a win against NZ every 10 years or so.

Once this Millennium I think.

So fishing is his pastime………………………………..cause his Rugby Team is crape.

By: snivelling little kiwi pricks

snivelling little kiwi pricks — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:24:35 +0000

: @Hurricane-90: We know the facts,but fact is SA did not play so not a true result.And this did not pop up after a loss but after reading one of your fellow snivellers comments i thought i would reply.

By: Big Hit

Big Hit — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:21:29 +0000

@Hurricane-92: I don’t need to prove it because everybody saw it. It was comfortably the most biased performance in a World Cup final of all time and NZ even had the same referee for the semi – unheard of.

Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7C6bTHyC0U

By: cane

cane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:16:48 +0000

Thread Title:
“Boks’ failure rooted in defence.”

Ryan,
many unnecessary words used here.

“Boks Rooted”.

Would be sufficient.

By: Hurricane

Hurricane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:16:37 +0000

@Big Hit-91: Prove the fixing claim. Go on. You have nothing. Only fixing was the ball tampering by the English. Embarrassment to world rugby. Again, take the RWC out. We dont need it to prove we are the best. You live on a 4 year tournament. We live game by game. You lose to Wales, we dont. Ozzie took apart Wales in 3 tests. You are second place in 6 nations. Come back to me when at least your team is worthy.

By: Big Hit

Big Hit — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:11:02 +0000

@Hurricane-89: Just like NZ were going to man handle France in the final last year or in 1999 or SA in 1995 or Oz in 1991/2003. Of course you'd love to take the WCs away, because your team can't win one without fixing it in your backyard.

By: Hurricane

Hurricane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:06:26 +0000

@snivelling little kiwi pricks-87:
haha
Cavaliers only had 7 of the 22 players in the RWC.
What makes you think the Boks not at home were going to beat the new AB team?
We all know how the Boks travel.
Waste of time anyway this. Now really whose fault is it that you guys were not in the 1987 RWC ?
Fact is RWC 1987 was the first and won by NZ.
Its funny how this sort of thing pops up after a Bok loss.

By: Hurricane

Hurricane — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:02:38 +0000

@Big Hit-88: Makes you question 2007, or does it not? French didnt mind it in 2007, neither did the English and Boks. We all know ABs were going to man handle those teams in 2007. Thing is take the RWC away, NZ is still the best team in the world.