Wallabies 26 Springboks 19
8 Sep 2012
GARETH DUNCAN brought you live commentary from the Rugby Championship Test in Perth.
FULL TIME: WALLABIES 26 SPRINGBOKS 19
80 mins: The Wallabies hold on to possession. And as the hooter sounds, Cooper sits in the pocket and boots the ball into touch. THE WALLABIES WIN 26-19!
79 mins: After a couple of phases, Goosen loses the ball in contact. Wallabies defence stands strong at the death. That’s that.
78 mins: Boks have a lineout in the Aussie 22m area. Last chance to avoid defeat.
76 mins: Sprinboks run some good ball carries, but eventually lose the ball forward in contact. Wallabies escape. South Africa should’ve gone for the points, with minutes still on the clock.
75 mins: With fullback Pat Lambie and flyhalf Johan Goosen pulled off the bench, the Boks are finding momentum on attack. They are awarded a penalty in a kickable area, but turn it down to search for the try. Brave decision.
72 mins: WALLABIES TRY! Australia find space down Mvovo’s wing, and tighthead prop Ben Alexander rushes towards the tryline and dives over. Barnes converts the difficult kick. That could be the match-winning points. WALLABIES LEAD 26-19!
68 mins: SPRINGBOK PENALTY! From the resulting touch finder, the Wallabies concede another penalty during a rolling maul. Morne Steyn steps up and slots the three-pointer. SCORES ARE LEVEL AT 19-19!
65 mins: MONUMENTAL TURNOVER! Wallabies were building great attacking momentum in the Boks’ half, but No 8 Duane Vermeulen puts in a hard tackle and steals the pill. Wins the penalty for holding on.
61 mins: WALLABIES PENALTY! Springboks are guilty of a breakdown transgression in front of the posts, and Barnes boots Australia back into the lead. WALLABIES LEAD 19-16!
60 mins: From the resulting kick-off, Mvovo makes another mistake. The ball crosses the chalk off his boot as he fails to catch it, and the Wallabies are awarded a 5m scrum as Morne Steyn is forced to dot it down.
59 mins: SPRINGBOK PENALTY! Great long-range effort from Frans Steyn! Completes his second penalty. SCORES ARE LEVEL AT 16-16!
58 mins: WASTED OPPORTUNITY! The Springboks win a turnover in a promising position, and Pienaar finds replacement wing Lwazi Mvovo in space. But the flyer doesn’t straighten the line, and takes up space. His offload to captain Jean de Villiers sees the outside centre forced into touch.
56 mins: WALLABIES TRY! Instant impact from reserve No 8 Scott Higginbotham. Minutes after running on to the park, he finds a gap in the Springbok guard to power over for the hosts’ first try. Barnes adds the extras. WALLABIES LEAD 16-13!
53 mins: Springboks concede their second scrum penalty, again on their own feed. Wallabies kick play into the visitors’ territory.
49 mins: Springboks are awarded a penalty from the resulting kick-off. However, Morne Steyn fails to find the target.
47 mins: WALLBIES PENALTY! Australia run 12 phases into the Boks’ red zone. They struggle to edge nearer to the try-line and are relieved when scrumhalf Ruan Pienaar is penalised for offside. Barnes finds some rewards as he splits the posts. SPRINGBOKS LEAD 13-9!
44 mins: Beast is back on. Boks are back to 15 players.
43 mins: Morne Steyn tries his second drop goal attempt, but again, it fades wide. Not a bad option as it gives time for Beast to get back on to the field.
41 mins: Barnes gets the game going again, kicks deep to Morne Steyn. The Springbok flyhalf finds good distance in his clearance.
HALF-TIME: WALLABIES 6 SPRINGBOKS 13
39 mins: Despite being a man down, the Boks have the upper hand. Good kicks and chips into the Aussie 22m area creating some problems.
35 mins: Barnes puts the Boks under pressure with a charge down. Good cover work from Kirchner, but the hosts still win possession. Boks let off the hook as Australia spill the pill. And at the scrum, the Wallabies concede a penalty.
33 mins: BIG BLOW FOR BOKS! Mtawarira blocks fullback Kurtley Beale as the Wallabies fullback gives a hoof ahead. And referee Nigel Owens pulls out the yellow. Poor play from the prop.
28 mins: WALLABIES PENALTY! The Springboks concede a penalty at the scrum, on their own feed. Big boost for the Wallabies front row. Barnes kicks his second penalty to cut the deficit to seven points. SPRINGBOKS LEAD 13-6!
26 mins: SPRINGBOK PENALTY! Frans Steyn kicks his first long-range penalty. Vital to get his first one over, after missing two at Newlands. Great start for the Springboks. SPRINGBOKS LEAD 13-3!
24 mins: Some off-the-ball stuff between the two teams as the Wallabies concede a penalty, which is in inside centre Frans Steyn’s range. Locks Sharpe and Eben Etzebeth have a bust up, and the young second-rower nearly lands a head-butt on the veteran. It goes unpunished.
22 mins: Wallabies trying to match the Springboks’ tactical kicking game, but are being dominated in this facet of play.
21 mins: SPRINGBOK TRY! After persistent pressure, the Boks finally cross the chalk. After messing up three other opportunities, Habana snipes the fringes low and quick, and crosses to score the first try of the game. Morne Steyn adds the extras. SPRINGBOKS LEAD 10-3!
20 mins: Great chase by Kirchner and he wins possession in the Wallabies’ red zone. The Boks make good metres and are edging closer to the chalk.
17 mins: WALLABIES PENALTY! First points for the hosts as Barnes slots the easy kick. SCORES ARE LEVEL AT 3-3!
16 mins: Loosehead prop Beast Matwarira is pinned for not rolling away in a kickable area. Wallabies should open their score tally via inside centre Berrick Barnes.
15 mins: STRONG COUNTER RUCK! The Wallabies show they have the grunt up front, forcing a penalty with a powerful counter drive. The Springbok pack needs to step up.
13 mins: The early momentum is with the Wallabies. Australia run 10 phases into Springbok territory, but a poor decision to kick into space sees wing Francois Hougaard call for a mark. He clears the ball and relieves pressure.
8 mins: Springbok wing Bryan Habana gives fullback Zane Kirchner a poor pass after chasing Wallabies flyhalf Quade Cooper’s chip through into the South African red zone. Kirchner does well to clear play under pressure. The Wallabies take a quick throw, creating a promising attacking opportunity, but the hosts spill the ball moments later.
4 mins: SPRINGBOK PENALTY! Yes, Morne can. It wasn’t an easy kick, but the Bok No 10 enjoys a clean strike to hit the target. Impressive penalty shot. SPRINGBOKS LEAD 3-0!
3 mins: The Wallabies concede a penalty moments later, after being pinned for holding on at a breakdown in a kickable area. Can Morne Steyn kick the Boks into the lead?
2 mins: The Boks get an early attacking position, and Morne Steyn shifts into the pocket for a shot at goal. However, his drop goal attempt goes wide.
KICK-OFF: Springbok flyhalf Morne Steyn starts the game with a high kick-off, and it’s taken cleanly by Wallabies Nathan Sharpe.
Wallabies – 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Dominic Shipperley, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Berrick Barnes, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia (c), 8 Radike Samo, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Dave Dennis, 5 Nathan Sharpe, 4 Sitaleki Timani, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 1 Benn Robinson
Subs: 16 Saia Faingaa, 17 James Slipper, 18 Scott Higginbotham, 19 Liam Gill, 20 Nick Phipps, 21 Mike Harris
Springboks – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 Jean de Villiers (c), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Tiaan Liebenberg, 17 Pat Cilliers, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Francois Louw, 20 Johan Goosen, 21 Pat Lambie, 22 Lwazi Mvovo.
838 Comments
8 Sep 2012, 11:49 am
Tipping a great game of questionable calls.
8 Sep 2012, 11:57 am
@CSI:Rugby-1: Ssshhh you’ll start Hondo off
8 Sep 2012, 11:57 am
its gonna be ugly
but i think we’ll do it
8 Sep 2012, 11:59 am
boks need to dig deep
testing time heyneke
testing time
8 Sep 2012, 11:59 am
viva Wallabies..
time to make it 7 from 8
8 Sep 2012, 12:00 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-3: Hellllllllllllllo Bakkies.
Did Mr Pointe impress you? He blew the AB’s up – yes he did.
Pleaseohpleaseohplease the Boks – make my day?
We NEED a win here, badly.
8 Sep 2012, 12:00 pm
@CSI:Rugby-1: yes, we will have to watch these Saffas very closely, if they start losing I expect headbutts, high tackles and gouging..
8 Sep 2012, 12:01 pm
13 straight now for the men in Black, go the Wallabies bury this guy again
8 Sep 2012, 12:01 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-3:
Piss off you wont win loser……. nah just kidding
Just sent an e-mail to IRB to get in touch with tonights ref and
watch the Boks offside play ,hehe
8 Sep 2012, 12:02 pm
@CSI:Rugby-1: I’m tipping a game in which either Deans or Meyer ends up swallowing their walkie talkie. One of them is in for a world of pain during and after this game
8 Sep 2012, 12:03 pm
Now if this ref blows the rules correctly…
8 Sep 2012, 12:03 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-10: ROFLMAO
8 Sep 2012, 12:04 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-10:
I dont think Meyer can get anymore aggressive in the coaches bok.
He is one angry guy.
8 Sep 2012, 12:04 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-6:
morning cupcake, i didn’t watch the game but it looks like the blacks played all the rugby going by the score. i didnt expect it to be a runaway though.
8 Sep 2012, 12:04 pm
@mikeybrass-11:
If the Boks win, he blew it correctly, but……
8 Sep 2012, 12:05 pm
Hahaha, all the doos kiwis shouting for the Ozzies
beeeaaautiful…..
8 Sep 2012, 12:05 pm
Campo clearly has issues with Deans.
8 Sep 2012, 12:06 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-6:
ab’s got blown up? you kidding me right?
ja, go bokke!
@Hurricane-9:
hehehe
chop
8 Sep 2012, 12:06 pm
One things for certain
if aus win it will because
the ref cheated
the Aussies cheated
NZ cheated blah blah blah blah blah
8 Sep 2012, 12:07 pm
@whatever-16:
tells you who’s in who’s heads
8 Sep 2012, 12:08 pm
@Hurricane-15: Pfftt, I want a fair contest and not a repeat of the Welsh fiasco.
8 Sep 2012, 12:08 pm
@spartan-19: the bokke never lose, you should know this by now..
strange, there were many Saffas blogging on the AB thread, especially when it was close, but there are hardly any here?
squeaky bum time for a lot of them
8 Sep 2012, 12:09 pm
@whatever-16:
Well its simple really isnt it.
If the Ozzies win, we just about have our hands on that cup.
If Boks win then we need to win the next 2 games.
You guys wanted Pumas to win, are you a doos as well then?
8 Sep 2012, 12:10 pm
@mikeybrass-11: We’ll see on the scoreboard whether he’ll do.
8 Sep 2012, 12:11 pm
Don’t care much for the result, I’m more interested in seeing how Goosen goes when he gets on. Also, the battle of Hooper v no fetcher for Bokkes
8 Sep 2012, 12:11 pm
@Hurricane-23: do you really need an answer to that last question?
what did keo call him? intellectual giant or something?
8 Sep 2012, 12:11 pm
no pops, i enjoy watching the game with full attention and not distracting myself with posting. will rejion after the game, win or lose.
8 Sep 2012, 12:11 pm
@mikeybrass-21:
lol even in a fair contest and its a loss, whats the bet there will be huge whinging.
Been here long enough to know how this place rolls.
8 Sep 2012, 12:12 pm
Come on hurricane, get all agitated, I just love it!
8 Sep 2012, 12:12 pm
@poppa69-26:
lol yeah Keo said something like that .
Keo even put the doos in there for him. lol
8 Sep 2012, 12:13 pm
@poppa69-22: It’s called a break and the toilet isn’t a sheep’s hole.
8 Sep 2012, 12:13 pm
@whatever-29:
whingeing that other people are whingeing… love it
8 Sep 2012, 12:14 pm
@Hurricane-28: Am working unfortunately but will rely on you for unbiased & impartial views please mate?
8 Sep 2012, 12:14 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-27: Im looking forward to your analysis..
these words
“cheat”
“filthy”
“scum”
should be the highlight
8 Sep 2012, 12:14 pm
@whatever-29:
Mate i am all good. Not a problem here.
I really dont give a toss who wins……. as long as its a fair contest , isnt that right Mikey?
8 Sep 2012, 12:14 pm
Love it. The Aussies haven’t won and already the Kiwis are whinging about whinging
8 Sep 2012, 12:15 pm
Haha, poppadoos and hurricane licking up the honey coated words of wisdom from a retarded druggie! Gotaloveit, go boys
8 Sep 2012, 12:15 pm
@mikeybrass-31: sheep jokes? another one of SA’s intellectual giants on show..
wonderful
8 Sep 2012, 12:15 pm
@Hurricane-13: Today will be a test of his self control
8 Sep 2012, 12:15 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-33:
Oh damn man.
Put your boss on, i will get ya time off and go home
8 Sep 2012, 12:15 pm
@Hurricane-35: Nah. I want a fair contest so the winner is deservedly the winner.
GO BOKS!
8 Sep 2012, 12:16 pm
@poppa69-34:
you know me pops… i call it like it is…
8 Sep 2012, 12:16 pm
@poppa69-22:
These bok bloggers gone quiet alright
I think the pennys dropped and they realise they could be on the end of a hiding
8 Sep 2012, 12:16 pm
@whatever-37:
do you do drugs dude?
8 Sep 2012, 12:17 pm
@mikeybrass-36:
Who is whinging?
The game hasnt started yet lol
8 Sep 2012, 12:18 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-42:
You call it like it isnt.
Just watch.
8 Sep 2012, 12:18 pm
@spartan-43: think theyre off praying to the rugby gods
should be a cracker of a game, both teams desperate after poor results last week
looking forward to this game all week..
8 Sep 2012, 12:19 pm
Wallabies are favourite at the Boookies??
lol
The Ozzies must know something, look out Boks.
8 Sep 2012, 12:20 pm
Beer tastes even better when you’re team wins. Anyone want one? It’s German Beer too.
8 Sep 2012, 12:20 pm
Duane Vermeulen!!!!…..I have been one of those most critical of Pierre Spies and most desperate to see Duane get his shot. Hope he gives it everything for the time he is on the field. (yet I still reckon he should have been playing Currie Cup this weekend)
8 Sep 2012, 12:21 pm
Hope poppadoos hope , but before kickoff you need to go do the rounds, check the doors are all secure etc, do want to neglect your job
8 Sep 2012, 12:21 pm
@Hurricane-46:
whats the term for deriving pleasure from the misfortune of others, again?
you kiwis are right up there in those stakes
8 Sep 2012, 12:22 pm
@whatever-51: hahaha hilarious..
god youre funny, still on the dole faafafine?
8 Sep 2012, 12:22 pm
@CSI:Rugby-25: yes I agree with this man on his latter two point. Not on the primary point though. This result DOES matter. Plenty.
8 Sep 2012, 12:23 pm
Small man syndrome
8 Sep 2012, 12:23 pm
@CSI:Rugby-49: I find any alcohol tastes better when my team loses…..oh yes, like magic the taste and it’s long term effects make one comfortably numb.
8 Sep 2012, 12:23 pm
@poppa69-53: you guys are actually good friends right Pops?
8 Sep 2012, 12:23 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-52: like after 2007 you mean?
its called being Seth African
8 Sep 2012, 12:24 pm
yeah pops same
whole lot riding on this game
8 Sep 2012, 12:24 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-52:
Yep but unlike you guys we will never lead that table.
Just had an interview with HM.He put out there that Boks dont travel well and his new players.
He did state that those are not excuses though.
8 Sep 2012, 12:24 pm
@TASSIES-57: of course, I do my bit for those less fortunate..
8 Sep 2012, 12:25 pm
@poppa69-58:
bokke by 30 you doos
8 Sep 2012, 12:25 pm
Well at least its better weather here than Wellington.
8 Sep 2012, 12:25 pm
@Hurricane-60: Don’t say that. You serious?
Ok, I feel fuckingsick.
8 Sep 2012, 12:26 pm
I really hope I’m wrong but I think the Aussies will take this.
By about 7.
8 Sep 2012, 12:26 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-62:
haha thats the way Bakkies, put it out there.
8 Sep 2012, 12:26 pm
I love having the argies in this competition. It’s great having another souther hemisphere game an hour after the first! Great new format.
8 Sep 2012, 12:26 pm
First ten minutes will be wild. Going to be interesting to see how Duane Vermeulen handles the pace of test rugby.
8 Sep 2012, 12:27 pm
@Hurricane-60:
we’re not a nation for excuses, hurri
just straightforward honesty.
like when certain teams do certain things, we call it.
8 Sep 2012, 12:27 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-64: he did say it.. was very well spoken actually, seems likeable enough (for a saffa anyways
)
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-62: nah, Morne isnt kicking well enough
8 Sep 2012, 12:27 pm
@Hurricane-66:
8 Sep 2012, 12:28 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-64:
Serious.
But he did say the Boks need to lose that not travelling well problem.
This could be the start.
8 Sep 2012, 12:29 pm
@poppa69-70:
alright then, bokke by 25
8 Sep 2012, 12:29 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-69:
No excuses and honesty??
lol Bakkies you are insane.
8 Sep 2012, 12:30 pm
Go Bokke.
This is a must win.
8 Sep 2012, 12:30 pm
So glad to see Vermeulen in the team at last!
Come on Boks!
8 Sep 2012, 12:30 pm
Boks back five in the pack played:
Etzebeth 5 games
Kruger 3 games
Coetzee 5 games
Alberts13 games
Vermeulen on debut
8 Sep 2012, 12:31 pm
I guarantee you I will be singing both anthems, why? It’s a rugby thing,I do it with the four home unions and if I knew French id sing that too
might be the beer as well
8 Sep 2012, 12:31 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-73: good to see…glad youre backing your team, just hope you can see the screen what with all the alcohol youve obviously had
8 Sep 2012, 12:31 pm
ok i’m clocking out
need to finish my beer before kickoff
see you folks for the post mortem on what went wrong for the ozzies
8 Sep 2012, 12:31 pm
Yeah Ozzies had a horrid few weeks for there soldiers in Afganistan.
Bloggers please stand up and shut up.
8 Sep 2012, 12:32 pm
@CSI:Rugby-78:
8 Sep 2012, 12:33 pm
gotta love that outfit hey? Wonder if she’s an Oz or a Crunchie?
8 Sep 2012, 12:33 pm
@poppa69-70: He is a nice guy, and a very decent fellow.
@Hurricane-72: Well at least he added that as an aside.
C’mon the Boks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 12:34 pm
WE are getting a delayed telecast because there are two QLD clubs in the NRL finals.Why do they have a scoreboard at league grounds. None of their fans can read. If you think I am joking, consider this:
We don’t have daylight saving in QLD because with an extra hour of daylight, the curtains would fade.
8 Sep 2012, 12:34 pm
Even in aus die stem is louder than he nkosi sikileli mumbo jumbo part….
8 Sep 2012, 12:34 pm
@TASSIES-83: indeed.. seems to have the lungs for it too
8 Sep 2012, 12:34 pm
and what a cute little West Ozzie. Can can sing too.
8 Sep 2012, 12:35 pm
@Robzim-82: Duane Duane Duane. There are many just lurking….waiting for their chance to slam him. Fukkit, my nerves are condemned…more so for Duane than for the Boks.
8 Sep 2012, 12:35 pm
The girl singing the OZ anthem is only wearing a scarf.
8 Sep 2012, 12:35 pm
@Robzim-68:
Yes, I agree.
The 1st 10-15 minutes will be hectic.
Vermeulen and Alberts won’t last if they keep the pace up for the first half, I think.
8 Sep 2012, 12:36 pm
@poppa69-87: liver, kidneys, can love lungs too.
8 Sep 2012, 12:36 pm
Love seeing the Argies and their supporters. They play with more poison than our robot players.
8 Sep 2012, 12:36 pm
@Robzim-82: beer makes my singing bearable, to me it does
8 Sep 2012, 12:37 pm
@AiDoc-90: don’t mind her scarg personally
8 Sep 2012, 12:37 pm
@TASSIES-92:
8 Sep 2012, 12:37 pm
Not Owens again! He is a chump.
8 Sep 2012, 12:37 pm
game on .. good luck to both sides, cmon Aussies
8 Sep 2012, 12:38 pm
Dag mense!
8 Sep 2012, 12:39 pm
So that’s the change in game plan.
Get into a position for Morne to drop.
8 Sep 2012, 12:39 pm
OK Morne tried for a drop kick already, looks like they want points straight away.
Penalty Boks, reckon 3 easy point s for Morne.
8 Sep 2012, 12:40 pm
@poppa69-98:
8 Sep 2012, 12:40 pm
great kick Steyn
0-3
8 Sep 2012, 12:40 pm
O o, here we go
SA 22
Oz 17
8 Sep 2012, 12:41 pm
Someone has to pool polota-nau aside and teach him correct taking technique, he suffers alot of grass knocks and that can’t be to good long term.
8 Sep 2012, 12:42 pm
Alberts taking the man off the ball, you watching Bakkies?
8 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm
In 5 minutes we did more than what the cannibals did in 80 minutes
8 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm
Sitaleki Timani is my neighbour, go well my fellow neighbour.
8 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm
that was not flat, Barnesy told the ref it was forward
8 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm
Aussies still using the referee as decoy, wish we could master that art.
8 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm
Ozzies looking good in early stages
8 Sep 2012, 12:44 pm
Kirchner saves the Boks.
8 Sep 2012, 12:44 pm
@Big Hit-109:
Barnes cant see a forward pass even if his life depended on it.
8 Sep 2012, 12:44 pm
this one’s going to be close. See it already.
8 Sep 2012, 12:45 pm
Ozzies blew that one. They need to take those opportunities.
8 Sep 2012, 12:45 pm
About 20 forward passes already from Aus
8 Sep 2012, 12:45 pm
And very predictable game South Africa.
8 Sep 2012, 12:45 pm
@Hurricane-113: Barnesy called it perfect, he always does, Wobs throwing non-stop forward passes
8 Sep 2012, 12:46 pm
Sharp did that against the AB too.
8 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm
@TASSIES-114: agree Tassies… Aussies looking to go wide often ..run the big Saffa forwards around
8 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm
Putting the ball behind the Boks is the same strat that the Chiefs used against the Sharks with devastating effect.
8 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm
Habana should retire…
8 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm
@TASSIES-114: Desperation will determine the winner. We’ll be ok if Barnes keeps on grubbering and buggering up.
8 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm
Again with the kicking by the Aussie backs. Hold on to the ball.
8 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm
@goyougoodthing2-117: Very predictable
8 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
Great kick Kirchner. Returned it with interest
8 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
@nama1-119: I remember that penalty add well
8 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
good kick Kirchner
8 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
@Big Hit-118:
Shhh Barnes is blind as the English team after a night out on thre pi$$ before a game.
8 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm
The referees (in general) really police the breakdown poorly.
8 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm
How is Juandre Kruger brought in for more “physicality”? He meek as a lamb.
8 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm
Aussies getting over the adv line with ease!
8 Sep 2012, 12:50 pm
Why did Cooper kick it? silly play..
8 Sep 2012, 12:50 pm
Well done tiger pienaar…
8 Sep 2012, 12:50 pm
Potato-Now and Samo all off their feet and on the wrong side of the rucks…
8 Sep 2012, 12:50 pm
Pienaar looking surprisingly calm and chilled out…..that bodes well.
8 Sep 2012, 12:51 pm
@W.P-131: He is softer than Pierre Spies’ tissue collection
8 Sep 2012, 12:51 pm
Ozzies seem to be trying to turn the Boks around in the early stages.
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
@Hurricane-129: Cory Jane drunk more on his own than the entire England team on that trip (tindall aside
)
Barnes was spot-on, it was forward, let the bitterness subside
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
@Hurricane-138: make their big forwards work hard and around the field, has always been the blueprint to beat SA
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
Oz looking better with ball in hand. No surprise there perhaps.
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
Tough penalty, Sharpe was off his feet if anyone
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
No atmosphere at the game. Boring as hell.
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
Pienaar. WTF are you doing. Get the ******* ball out. Sharpe off his feet too stealing that ball.
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
Stupid Boks.
The ball was there. Why not play it.
8 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm
LOL. Fuckoff Boks.
8 Sep 2012, 12:53 pm
Cannot wait for the 5 seconds rule to be implemented into test rugby.
8 Sep 2012, 12:53 pm
Ozzie are going over the gain line quite easy.
Beast laying on the ground not getting up, trying to kill the ball…..penaltty.
8 Sep 2012, 12:53 pm
3 all for sure. Boks haven’t started playing rugby yet and its 15 mins into the game.
8 Sep 2012, 12:53 pm
Hondo and Grant 100 will take delight in that penalty by Beast.
8 Sep 2012, 12:53 pm
Wobs getting forward momentum fairly easily, poor gainline defence from SA
8 Sep 2012, 12:54 pm
@TASSIES-149: Boks have got nothing. No idea at all.
8 Sep 2012, 12:54 pm
Ruan really what was that ?
so far there seems to be no improvement from the last game . this is not looking good
8 Sep 2012, 12:54 pm
@nama1-145: Fuckingstupid. Make me want to pull my hair out.
8 Sep 2012, 12:55 pm
@Big Hit-139:
lol
You English are lightweights…. naa actually a few places in NZ ran out of beer when the lions toured in 1995.
8 Sep 2012, 12:56 pm
I’ll let mccaw eat my dog…. Just to get the chance to pis on sharpe’s face… He’s a d00s of note
8 Sep 2012, 12:56 pm
Thank you rugby gods and Bryan.
8 Sep 2012, 12:56 pm
Habana Try
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
yes Habs. Give the man a sniff and bam mam thank you Sam
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
Steyn and Pieanaar threw away 2 tries, and how can a penalty advantage in the 22 be ‘advantage over’?
WTF
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
sideshow bob kirchner is a legend, don’t know why you guys hate him
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
Nama dont you have to go fetch your sister from woolies or something? Haar skof is klaar….
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
good try SA.. the skop an jag worked
Nama – Hondo and Grant100 wont credit Zane for winning back the ball
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
Missed it, why were the Ozzies standing around and the ref said play on.
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
TRY!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
credit that one to Zane I’d think
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
152- feeling pretty stupid right now?
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-152: Some nice stuff there on the other hand
8 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
Jeepers. The Boks actually looked as if they were never going to score that try.
Well done HABANA.
8 Sep 2012, 12:58 pm
Morne Steyn butchered two great opportunities, lucky Habana scored.
8 Sep 2012, 12:58 pm
grief that was painful to watch! 3 times that try could have been scored without much hassle but no one knowing what to do with the ball
8 Sep 2012, 12:58 pm
Boks playing well – even teddy with a clean
8 Sep 2012, 12:59 pm
@goyougoodthing2-160: it wasn’t Pienaar, it was Morne Steyn twice, but I guess SA did end up under the posts with an easy conv.
8 Sep 2012, 12:59 pm
Grant are you some sort of racist pw00s?
8 Sep 2012, 13:00 pm
Sharpe playing as offside as Ritcie
8 Sep 2012, 13:00 pm
@grant100-162:
Leave my family out of it, OK.
Take a swipe at me anytime you want to but leave my family alone.
8 Sep 2012, 13:00 pm
what a lousy kick. Why kick? Are they instructed to kick every damn ball.
8 Sep 2012, 13:00 pm
@Big Hit-173: My bad. Steyen is sooooshit!
8 Sep 2012, 13:01 pm
Cooper sold down the river by Genia.
8 Sep 2012, 13:01 pm
Nama nou gedra jou
8 Sep 2012, 13:02 pm
not straight there.. bakkies you watching the boks cheat?
8 Sep 2012, 13:02 pm
Sharpe is suchacunt
8 Sep 2012, 13:02 pm
An Attempted head butt…all class
8 Sep 2012, 13:02 pm
Boks looks miles better than nz did…. Sharpe soos be sent to marikana
8 Sep 2012, 13:03 pm
@W.P-174:
You look up the word in the dictionary and you’ll see his picture there.
He is a real ****.
8 Sep 2012, 13:03 pm
Nathan Sharpe having a tough game. Young Etzebeth stepping to him
8 Sep 2012, 13:03 pm
Well handled referee. Possibly my only complement to them in years.
8 Sep 2012, 13:03 pm
A bit of a nothing headbut in there.
8 Sep 2012, 13:03 pm
then Morne trying to cheat by moving the kick to poles upfield..
Bok cheating has got to stop!
what say you Bakkies?
8 Sep 2012, 13:03 pm
Sharpe is such a wooss, enjoy watching him actually.
8 Sep 2012, 13:03 pm
Head butt? Surely not.
8 Sep 2012, 13:04 pm
Wow a prop just kicked a penalty
8 Sep 2012, 13:04 pm
Fansie Steyn you goodthing
8 Sep 2012, 13:04 pm
Kick for touch man.
8 Sep 2012, 13:04 pm
Poppa you c9nt he can kick it from his own 10m no need to cheat bud
8 Sep 2012, 13:04 pm
huge kick Frans Steyn
3-13
8 Sep 2012, 13:05 pm
Good kick Steyn
8 Sep 2012, 13:05 pm
check Eben’s little mock headbutt. Its in the genes passed on by cousin Cliffie
8 Sep 2012, 13:05 pm
Fransie’s chance to shine…
…and he obliges.
Guess no matter what he does for the rest of the match, he’ll have a “great” game.
8 Sep 2012, 13:06 pm
Poppa also morne didn’t kick… I know your tv’s in nz are still black and white so you are forgiven
8 Sep 2012, 13:06 pm
@TASSIES-198: keo on twitter suggesting a possible citing for it
8 Sep 2012, 13:06 pm
Ozzies took the Boks scrum apart there.
8 Sep 2012, 13:06 pm
Jannie doing what he does best – give away penalties – can’t understand how he is a SB
8 Sep 2012, 13:07 pm
@grant100-180:
Vokkof.
8 Sep 2012, 13:07 pm
@grant100-180: Yup, true to form. Thesonofaboeremagbicycle bringing other’s families into all arguments he knows he can’t win…..
Class dismissed.
8 Sep 2012, 13:07 pm
Pienaar is too indecisive and slow to clear the ball….
8 Sep 2012, 13:07 pm
@Big Hit-201: You can’t cite for pretending to do something.
8 Sep 2012, 13:07 pm
I said earlier, the Bok front row is our weakness. Been that way for years. Why, from the space between the Vaal and Orange rivers can we not find a decent tighthead?
8 Sep 2012, 13:07 pm
gees, I copped it for suggesting the Bok props are over rated, that scrum perhaps proving me right?
8 Sep 2012, 13:08 pm
@Big Hit-201:
hmmm that would be harsh. But he did attempt to head butt
8 Sep 2012, 13:09 pm
@poppa69-209: no you’re right. But I wouldn’t call it over-rated. Just useless.
8 Sep 2012, 13:09 pm
Australian media are obsessed about their back line, why? They’ve always had world class backs, so what’s the point of talking about turn 99% of the time when they should be addressing their Achilles heel, which is their tight five. No mongrel.
8 Sep 2012, 13:09 pm
Morne Steyn is so so so soshit
8 Sep 2012, 13:09 pm
@goyougoodthing2-207:
Attempted. Pretending lol
8 Sep 2012, 13:09 pm
Habana jou quota ma se p…….!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:09 pm
is there a way to keep morne steyn away from all attacking play coz the ball seems to die in his hands
8 Sep 2012, 13:10 pm
Another try butchered. We need to capitalize on these situations
8 Sep 2012, 13:10 pm
Boks looking good. Aussies need to stop getting into the kicking wars, it’s not paying off for them.
8 Sep 2012, 13:10 pm
@grant100-215: En jou ma was a tricycle……almal het haar getrap.
8 Sep 2012, 13:10 pm
Stupid Frans Steyn.
Throwing a long pass when we were 4 on 2.
Try butchered.
8 Sep 2012, 13:11 pm
Aussies have stopped hitting the rucks and spreading the ball… playing silly stuff now..
8 Sep 2012, 13:12 pm
ping…pong…ping..pong
8 Sep 2012, 13:12 pm
Kurtley should save his shoes for running. Cant kick for ****
8 Sep 2012, 13:12 pm
@Hurricane-214: Cane, South Africans don’t attempt violence. They either do it or feign it. If he meant it Sharpe would be unconscious.
8 Sep 2012, 13:12 pm
Sharks pedigry.. Lekke google “jou ma jokes” insults… Lol dont get me started….
8 Sep 2012, 13:12 pm
Take zane off…… Bring on wonderind goosen
8 Sep 2012, 13:12 pm
Fuckoff Morne Steyn uselss c unt
8 Sep 2012, 13:13 pm
Send beast back to zim….stupid beast
8 Sep 2012, 13:13 pm
did you see the Bok obstruction there Bakkies? now taking a man out… gees Bakkies, yellow card now…eish,
what was it about SA playing fairly Bakkies?
8 Sep 2012, 13:13 pm
Beast cheating and got found. lol
Nek minute yellow card
8 Sep 2012, 13:13 pm
Everytime Morne gets the ball hefucksitup. Beale Milked that better than a MilkMaid at a Hand Shandy convention
8 Sep 2012, 13:13 pm
Beast brain implosion
8 Sep 2012, 13:13 pm
This is a garbage match. Kick kick kick kick kick. Sorry, this isnt rugby.
8 Sep 2012, 13:13 pm
oh Beast. What have you done mate? Bad boy. Heyneke not a happy bungie
8 Sep 2012, 13:14 pm
Was that a yellow card? I’m just asking because Ranger man will be here soon
8 Sep 2012, 13:15 pm
Kick by Frans Steyn charged down.
Man, this boy is overrated.
8 Sep 2012, 13:15 pm
Beast is less than 10% what he used to be. Time for Coenie to recover very very fast. We need him.
8 Sep 2012, 13:15 pm
what useless useless backline play from the Boks. Not the players fault. This gameplan sucks.
8 Sep 2012, 13:15 pm
@CSI:Rugby-235:
of course not. he was confused and didn’t realize which way the try line was. Accidental.
8 Sep 2012, 13:16 pm
Heyneke baaaaarking into the walkie talkie
8 Sep 2012, 13:16 pm
Poppa, he got duly binned. Ab players get away with the same offence.
8 Sep 2012, 13:16 pm
Ozzies are not really jumping on these opportuinities
8 Sep 2012, 13:16 pm
Frans is obsessed with his long, skip pass. He cost us a try – should have gone hand to hand.
8 Sep 2012, 13:16 pm
@grant100-228: I wish you would suddenly start clutching your chest in agony. Dare I hope that you suffer with high cholesterol? Please tell me it is so…… I will send flowers, but open the coffin before it is lowered, just to make 100% sure you are in it.
Fukkityouhaveborderlinepersonalityissues.
8 Sep 2012, 13:16 pm
Pienaar and Morne Steyn the 2 achilles heels in this side, now Frans Steyn also gets his big hoof charged down.
If these dumb fcks cannot get this kick chase garbage from out of their ingrained DNA they going to keep on losing. They just lucky Wallabies playing the same dumb fck game as them.
8 Sep 2012, 13:17 pm
Bakkies wont be able to watch the Boks, theyve been cheating the whole game..
must be coached
8 Sep 2012, 13:17 pm
The Beast does little both ends anyway, the Boks won’t suffer
8 Sep 2012, 13:17 pm
Nama you just want jdj there…. The same jdj who is bliksemed in vodacom cup std currie cup.. You call me racist…never saw you say something good about a white player…. D00s
8 Sep 2012, 13:18 pm
What rhymes with pisspoor?
MS
8 Sep 2012, 13:18 pm
Sharks pedigree are u on tik bra?
8 Sep 2012, 13:19 pm
Ref go that WRONG
8 Sep 2012, 13:19 pm
Bokkies cheating again Bakkies, hands on the ground
eish…
8 Sep 2012, 13:19 pm
first though entering Morne’s head: kick. Bugger but its boring to watch.
8 Sep 2012, 13:20 pm
The boks are getting away with alot. Knock on misseed, Ozzies must be feeling a bit ripped off.
But the Boks are not always getting away with hands in rucks .
8 Sep 2012, 13:20 pm
How is jannie a doctor? Probably bought his degree like our anc friends…
8 Sep 2012, 13:20 pm
A game of 2 very average teams playing below par.
8 Sep 2012, 13:20 pm
@goyougoodthing2-251:
He did, he missed the knock on by the boks
8 Sep 2012, 13:21 pm
@goyougoodthing2-256:
Better than NZ vs Arg. At least this game has flow.
8 Sep 2012, 13:21 pm
Negative from pienaar…. Could’ve milked a penalty…. Easy kick for frans from there
8 Sep 2012, 13:22 pm
Pienaar the most f’ng laborious arsehole scrum half on the planet he’s a retreaded fly half, scrum half is NOT his position slowing Boks attack ball game down to snails pace
Get Pienaar OFF and move Hougaard to 9 NOW!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:22 pm
Boks weathering the sin-bin well. Kicking game surprisingly fruitful today, but I guess that’s because the Bok forwards have a clear edge.
8 Sep 2012, 13:22 pm
@Hurricane-257:
And forward pass from Wallabies???
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
Ai tog, Beast
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
@Pencil-258:
Weather and Argies slowing the ball down perfectly and at times ilegally made the game like that.
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
@Big Hit-261:
And because Bael is a **** kicker. Cooper too.
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
Very average teams playing, boks better but not by much.
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
This Aussie team is seriously weak. Argies much better …
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
Fitz what game u watching bro? Boks looking much better with hougaard on the wing…
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
Took HM a lot of ‘courage’ and time to drop Mvovo and shifting Hougaard to the wing
He is a slow thinker
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
Ball now getting static without Beast there
Bring cilliers on for jannie
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
@Hurricane-264:
But that wasn’t a one off. The last 3 Kiwi games have been hideously stop/start affairs, littered with errors.
8 Sep 2012, 13:23 pm
Oh man. Sad to read the comments here. I will never ever recommend this site to anyone. If remarks are not racist, they are aimed at players or coach – personal insults and attacks. Shitt attracts flies, and this is exactly what is going on here.
News flash guys….. It’s not cool to be common and to behave like a drunk hooligan! You are supporting the view many have about Bok supporters by behaving the way you are.
The ones I’m talking about will no doubt retaliate. Expect nothing less.
Go Bokke, win this one!
8 Sep 2012, 13:24 pm
@digger-266:
Boks had 2 or three chances. No finishing. Should be AT LEAST 5-10 points ahead.
8 Sep 2012, 13:24 pm
@grant100-248:
I said: VOKKOF. What don’t you understand about that?
Are you dumb?
Ignore the question. We know you are.
8 Sep 2012, 13:24 pm
@grant100-250: Nope. Although I would feel the same about you if I was….
8 Sep 2012, 13:24 pm
we left 2 tries on that park…
8 Sep 2012, 13:24 pm
I long for the days we had fdup at sh. All the new guys are clueless. I bet hougie will play 9 afyer 60minutes. Strauss is no bizzy, thats for sure.
8 Sep 2012, 13:24 pm
Why does JDP get picked? The guy is a walking penalty. It’s crazy how frequently he gets pinged…every game.
8 Sep 2012, 13:25 pm
@The Analyst-267:
Game has not finished yet.
8 Sep 2012, 13:26 pm
Keo tweeting the Boks are worthy of a 20pt HT lead
8 Sep 2012, 13:26 pm
@W.P-243:
He sees this newspaper headlines that says: try by Habana/Hougaard after a GREAT pass by Frans Steyn.
So fkin stupid.
8 Sep 2012, 13:26 pm
Hougaard is having a good game on the wing , Morne is have a bad game on the field time to give Goosen a go . HM still no clear game plan.
8 Sep 2012, 13:26 pm
Great half of kicking. We saw some beautiful kicks. High ones, long ones, short ones, diagonal ones. I think the Boks execution of their kicking has been superb. There are some great kickers in the team. Morne’s kicking was pretty good. Kirtchner kicked well. Pienaar and Hougaard also kicked well. Really good kicking. The ball was kicked really well by the Boks. Even the Australians were getting in on the act but their kicking wasn’t as good. The Boks should stop playing with the ball all together they’re rubbish at it, just keep kicking and try and kick the ball over the Aussie tryline and fall on it. Superb kicking display. Goosen will become a master of the kicking game.
8 Sep 2012, 13:26 pm
Bakkies
your analysis on the Bok cheating please?
8 Sep 2012, 13:26 pm
@TASSIES-253: I don’t know how much longer Meyer can justify selecting Morne Steyn. I really don’t.
8 Sep 2012, 13:27 pm
@Big Jack-272:
Nice post .
8 Sep 2012, 13:27 pm
Abs missed sbw tonight.
(and Thorne and Kano
)
8 Sep 2012, 13:27 pm
Nama classy bra… Te vroeg vir papsak
8 Sep 2012, 13:27 pm
@Hondo-247: Hi there Hondo. Good to see you around again boet. Don’t let that swastika get in the way of some good objectivity mate. Consistency is a great quality.
8 Sep 2012, 13:27 pm
Big *** why would you read his tweets?
8 Sep 2012, 13:28 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-283:
8 Sep 2012, 13:28 pm
@corporal punishment-287: Arg missed Contepomi (and Tiesi/Ledesma)
8 Sep 2012, 13:28 pm
@Big Hit-280:
lol
Ozzies missed a couple of opportunities as well.
If both teams took there chances it still would be close imo
8 Sep 2012, 13:28 pm
Poppa, your argument falls flat as the transgressions are penalized. The same transgressions that does not get pinged when the all cheats play. Get it?
8 Sep 2012, 13:29 pm
I hope we can hold onto this lead
8 Sep 2012, 13:29 pm
@Hurricane-293: yeah definitely not as one-sided as keo sees it, he doesn’t seem to respect Oz much
8 Sep 2012, 13:30 pm
@Big Hit-292:
I dont think it was an excuse BH like you though it was.
Both teams missing player…. in fact all teams miss players every year normally. Someone is either injured of retired.
8 Sep 2012, 13:31 pm
Surprised to read the negative comments re Pienaar. He is playing intelligently, slowing it down when needed and delivering quick ball when necessary. Had made a few errors, but nothing like our props!
8 Sep 2012, 13:31 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-285: he suits his game plan which I totally don’t agree with. You don’t need to play like this to win a Test.
8 Sep 2012, 13:31 pm
@onerb-294: is this your multinik bakkies? the bloke who says its only the ABs that cheat?
hahahaha
8 Sep 2012, 13:31 pm
Be interesting to see if the boks can put it all together in the second half. They look like if they click they could put on some points.
8 Sep 2012, 13:32 pm
@Hurricane-297: so why mention it? injuries fair enough but you can’t miss players who have retired from test rugby
8 Sep 2012, 13:32 pm
@Big Hit-296:
Yeah, Oz can turn it on. Boks need to be a bit careful here. Boks need to nail some more points asap.
8 Sep 2012, 13:33 pm
@Big Hit-296: I can understand why people might read his tweets….but fucknows why anyone would actually take them seriously.
8 Sep 2012, 13:33 pm
you know i dont want to sound like a stuck record but some these infringments the ozzies are getting away with is really frstrating
those farikng high tackles
maak jou fokkenn oe oop meneer ref !
8 Sep 2012, 13:33 pm
ok i’m out again
8 Sep 2012, 13:34 pm
@Big Hit-302:
I think it was an observation.
Teams can miss retired player in the first year, silly if you think otherwise.
8 Sep 2012, 13:34 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-304: well I don’t, I just find them amusing
8 Sep 2012, 13:34 pm
Bael has such a horrible kicking game. Oz is goign to struggle to get out of their own half.
8 Sep 2012, 13:34 pm
Can Morne Steyn please stop kicking possession away FFS
8 Sep 2012, 13:34 pm
MS is the kakest FH I think I have ever seen in a green jersey. THE WORST.
8 Sep 2012, 13:35 pm
Another LEKKER forward pass from the quick lineout throw from Wallabies …. !!
8 Sep 2012, 13:35 pm
ok morne i think weve seen enough for one day
8 Sep 2012, 13:35 pm
Wallabies are afflicted by MS’s ‘kick it away’ virus?
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
Steyn misses another drop
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
@Big Hit-308:
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
it’s getting harder & harder to watch morne play…
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
If we win this then there will be no hope of HM ever changing tactics. He will be vindicated in his own mind and MS will be with him until the end.
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-305:
lol
Course Ozzie are cheating
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
Sticking to my 22-17 for SA
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
sorry guys but this guy really pisses me off. Another drop.
8 Sep 2012, 13:36 pm
this Dinosaur game has to be put out its fckd up misery, if this Meyer twitching twit cannot see the sheer stupidity of this archaic pathetic game plan then he’s not a coaches backside. Springboks been persevering with this garbage since 2002 and it has NEVER worked yet but imbeciles wanna continue doing what comes naturally its ingrained in their dumb fck DNA.
If Boks win perpetuating with this moronic idiocy then the rugby gods and Wallabies poor countering will gift them a gift they scant deserve.
Boot to ball should be the LAST option taken, NOT the first one.. Morons united in perthetic dunceville.
8 Sep 2012, 13:38 pm
Goosen start warming up young man….changing of guard upon us
8 Sep 2012, 13:38 pm
@Soda-318: Can you see anything changing even if we lose? Morne Steyn has been anointed by the angels it seems.
Nothing bar injury or him retiring will see another 10 get a shot.
8 Sep 2012, 13:39 pm
Pienaar playing a ‘Houggie’?
8 Sep 2012, 13:39 pm
Wow this is k@k rugby – I am the idiot because I watch this cr@p every weekend !!
8 Sep 2012, 13:39 pm
Robbie Deans: “If we can take the silly kicks out of our game, we’ll go a long way to building pressure and getting an outcome.”
8 Sep 2012, 13:39 pm
@Soda-318: He’ll be claiming the execution of his game-plan was spot on that’s why we won.
8 Sep 2012, 13:39 pm
@Hurricane-319: no mention from Bakkies? disappointed..
guess we know where his credibility is..
8 Sep 2012, 13:40 pm
Boks doing really well stopping the momentum of the Ozzies.
8 Sep 2012, 13:40 pm
@Soda-318: I never ever want the Springboks to lose. But sometimes recently it get close to breaking that pattern. Games not over yet. Oz still has plenty of time to play the rugby the Boks refuse to do.
8 Sep 2012, 13:40 pm
Pienaar’s all class!! Good to have him back!
8 Sep 2012, 13:40 pm
No worries blokes – Goosen career starting in 10-9-8…
8 Sep 2012, 13:41 pm
@Big Hit-327:
Yeah, he knows what he wants , lets see if the Ozzies listen
8 Sep 2012, 13:42 pm
Steyn misses, they should get him off. He’s kicking poorly and missing tackles.
8 Sep 2012, 13:42 pm
Bael. How does he keep getting picked?
8 Sep 2012, 13:42 pm
How the HELL can STEYN miss that kick!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:43 pm
@Big Hit-335:
Goosen’s time is NOW
8 Sep 2012, 13:45 pm
Morne Steyn is the poorest Bok on the field today – once again. For those who refuse to see this……there are no words.
8 Sep 2012, 13:45 pm
HOuggard took player out in mid air and not called….. I thought the Boks get away with nothing.
8 Sep 2012, 13:45 pm
How is Vermeulen playing ? I just managed to get to watching the game now.
8 Sep 2012, 13:46 pm
now hoohaa taking players out in the air?
cheats!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:46 pm
@Hurricane-330: the Ozzies are not great. Today. But the Bok game plan is rubbish. Wont work against the Blacks.
8 Sep 2012, 13:46 pm
Samo is off, bad news for the Boks
Mvovo on the field!
8 Sep 2012, 13:46 pm
@hanneslom-323: You think Goosen will change our fortunes? Meyer will ruin him in no time. Meyer is the one that needs to fuckoff even more urgently than Morne.
8 Sep 2012, 13:47 pm
@Transformation-317:Sort of like watching you post@The Analyst-337: Easy…..line it up wrong…miss your timing and push it out to the right
8 Sep 2012, 13:47 pm
Ozzies again took the Boks scrum apart. Ozzies seem to have been working on there scrum.
8 Sep 2012, 13:47 pm
That was a penalty to the Boks – Habana breaks and the ball pops up on the Wallabie side. Playing the ball on the ground
8 Sep 2012, 13:47 pm
@Dusky-341: He’s doing nothing. Might as well be back home eating pap and drinking a Hansa.
8 Sep 2012, 13:47 pm
They must start ‘fines’ in the changeroom. Team do some good only for one oke to come **** it up.
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
great scrum. You beauty. Attacking position and you blow it.
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
Should’ve pulled Pienaar not Habana.
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-345: Jy moer seker jou vrou as sy per ongeluk vir jou n blou onderbroek in die PEP value pack koop?
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-345: The chances of one f*cking off when the other is still there is slim.
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
good try Aussie, could this spark them?
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
Ozzies straight threw for the try.
Quick ball made that try
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
Our props again!
8 Sep 2012, 13:48 pm
miss tackles..
8 Sep 2012, 13:49 pm
well played Oz. What a crock of **** Boks.
8 Sep 2012, 13:49 pm
off a bullshitt scrum penalty
8 Sep 2012, 13:49 pm
I am afraid that is the first trickle in the dam wall break….goodbye Springboks.
8 Sep 2012, 13:49 pm
credit SHipperly with that try, running hard and straight..
Aussie backline have been going sideways all night..
8 Sep 2012, 13:49 pm
Morne is such a softie just rides the attacking player and waits for someone else to tackle, or just misses totally. He must go and never come back
8 Sep 2012, 13:49 pm
The rugby gods are watching
8 Sep 2012, 13:49 pm
Fark. Wallabie try
8 Sep 2012, 13:50 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-360:
Really it was off go forward and poor defence by the boks.
8 Sep 2012, 13:50 pm
Min 56
Samo is out, the Beast faked a tackle, Higgens scored under the poles
A logical chain of events
8 Sep 2012, 13:50 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-360: Middag ou stoetbul!
8 Sep 2012, 13:50 pm
well i dont know what getting flo on now will be help with. , the back line needs help lambie , Goosen anyone !!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:50 pm
3 point game, Boks to hit back or fade?
8 Sep 2012, 13:50 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-364: Fokking hensopper
8 Sep 2012, 13:51 pm
alberts doing a disappearing act…
8 Sep 2012, 13:51 pm
It’s called running lines Jean FFS!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:51 pm
Beautiful tackle by AAC!
8 Sep 2012, 13:51 pm
lol
Never seen that before, tackling 2 players at same time
8 Sep 2012, 13:52 pm
High tackles are fine?
8 Sep 2012, 13:52 pm
Aimless kicking by Boks. Fark. Run straight Mvov. Straight!
8 Sep 2012, 13:52 pm
Wow, boks looking rattled
8 Sep 2012, 13:52 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-371: Sorry if I’m ruing your enjoyment of the game. Rather focus on that then.
8 Sep 2012, 13:52 pm
Bok forwards AWOL but get the penalty…fortunate
8 Sep 2012, 13:52 pm
Bad call. Boks got lucky there
8 Sep 2012, 13:53 pm
Cois jou yster!!!!!!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:53 pm
So now if Frans Steyn has to take over the kicking, what is Morne doing on the field ? Let’s give Goosen a go.
8 Sep 2012, 13:53 pm
@goyougoodthing2-376:
It was a pretend high tackle
8 Sep 2012, 13:53 pm
seems this is the Steyn/Meyer show.
8 Sep 2012, 13:53 pm
HUGE kick Steyn, 6 points most kickers wouldn’t land
8 Sep 2012, 13:53 pm
So Frans Steyn can kick, why is that USELESS other Stain still on? Coach feeling naked if he takes off the Bulls?
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
Oh dearfuck……
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
@Hurricane-381:
it was the cheating Aussies mate, had to be
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
Wake up Mvovo.
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-346:
He should not be in the team. He has done NOTHING!
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
Owens is hopeless, both ways! How many high shots etc will he let go?
Aussies looking good in the second
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
@Hurricane-384: Blah blah blah.
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
Daarsy…. Mooi mvovu….. Quotas farking quotas….
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
min 58
A mule kick by F Styen, see if the Boks can close it out by 6 to 9
8 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
How the boks can lose to this Aussie team, I do not know.
8 Sep 2012, 13:55 pm
ag here nee man mvovo, wat maak jy
8 Sep 2012, 13:55 pm
@Atreides-392: Got to agree. Owens is 3 kindsofshit
8 Sep 2012, 13:55 pm
Johan goosen… Bring him on…. He’ll kick it from his own try line
8 Sep 2012, 13:56 pm
the ref whinging has started
like clockwork
8 Sep 2012, 13:56 pm
@The Analyst-396: I do. Because they are even worse.
8 Sep 2012, 13:56 pm
3 points conceded with no yellow isn’t a bad return given how poor the restart was.
19-16
8 Sep 2012, 13:56 pm
@The Analyst-396: 18 min left my good man. Have a little faith.
8 Sep 2012, 13:56 pm
Very average rugby. Wow the boks look like they are in 1st gear.
8 Sep 2012, 13:56 pm
@The Analyst-396:
Again, not over yet.
8 Sep 2012, 13:57 pm
en nog steeds weier Meyer om Lambie op te bring …. dof, dof, dof.
8 Sep 2012, 13:57 pm
ja Heyneke you wanna select stupid suck this sh’t up
Can’t continue watching this outright brain dead idiocy stuffing SA rugby to kingdom come.
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
total bullshit calls
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
lambie to sit on the wood for another 80min…
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
If Meyer refuses to open his eyes, his mind and his heart to any change – we are facing 7 worlds of pain.
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
are were ever going to see Goosen?
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
barnes leaving now could be telling. He’s one of the only decent kickers in the team.
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
At least we are rid of pdv
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
our chances to win this game have passed i think, BIG problem at FH
8 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
Min 64,
The Beast 3 penalty of the match, lying at leisurely on the Boks side
8 Sep 2012, 13:59 pm
Julle boere het mos gedink daar gaan wonderwerke gebeur as stampkar Meyer die bok coach is ne’. Ek lag lekke vir julle kak boere. ‘n Drop goal, ‘n skop en sommer nog skoppe. Mallet was die beste Bok coach.
8 Sep 2012, 13:59 pm
Only positive is Vermeulen. Looks the goods.
8 Sep 2012, 13:59 pm
Yes Duane!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 13:59 pm
Well done Vermeulen.
8 Sep 2012, 13:59 pm
@Transformation-409: Is that not a Cape Town thing?
8 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
No Goosen and no Lambie… Meyer you are losing us quick. I won’t be switching on the next game unless you wake up
8 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
@Transformation-409: sshhh don’t say that… Puma might pop a vessel…
8 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
Can Morne Steyn tackle a player without the player actually making a couple of meters?
8 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
Vermeulen did not get that cleanly,had a knee on the ground and still was playing the ball.
8 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
@Zinto-416: Fokkoff man!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
and Duanne Vermeulen justifies his inclusion, but Pienaar, Morne Steyn are yet to justify theirs.
8 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
@The Analyst-417: Yes he does. Does all the donkey work Spies runs away from. Isn’t allergic to blood, pain and physical contact either.
8 Sep 2012, 14:01 pm
Oh …k M Steyn kicking ….. why am I not confident?
8 Sep 2012, 14:01 pm
Great kick Steynie!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:01 pm
And Meyer still refuses to bring Lambie on. How dof can that be?
8 Sep 2012, 14:01 pm
@Hurricane-424: our friends in the republic would disagree Hurri, they never cheat
8 Sep 2012, 14:01 pm
Steyn gets it
19-19
8 Sep 2012, 14:02 pm
The Boks’ Secret agent Genia
8 Sep 2012, 14:03 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-403: nee Kwagga. This is rubbish man. This Ozzie side is not great. How we land in this position is entirely due to management. Sick of this unlovable playing style. Its not even winning rugby.
8 Sep 2012, 14:03 pm
Why the f*ck doesn’t that thickheaded coach give Goosen and Lambie a run? Kirchner and Steyn K AK all night!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:03 pm
Oh boy
8 Sep 2012, 14:03 pm
Ohdearfuck. Very poor defence.
Very poor.
8 Sep 2012, 14:03 pm
fair try..
8 Sep 2012, 14:03 pm
Kirchner has had a good night…
8 Sep 2012, 14:04 pm
Mvovo will never wear green and gold again….
8 Sep 2012, 14:04 pm
There is nothing wrong with a kick and chase if you can defend. And by that I mean knock the receiving player back. The Boks just can’t do that.
8 Sep 2012, 14:04 pm
bad to worse…..
8 Sep 2012, 14:04 pm
@grant100-440: What has he done wrong compared to Steyn and NikNak
8 Sep 2012, 14:04 pm
Oh c rap!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:04 pm
good try
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
@goyougoodthing2-421: ditto. Complete wanker.
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
@TASSIES-434: Yip nou begin die diff rattle. Dammit man!
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
Genia Injured. Looks like a knee. Not looking good.
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
mvovo must go
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
Lekker skop and jag …. = possession to Wallabies and TRY!
Great strategy Heyneke.
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
Juandre Kruger FFS! Just as I said. Good lineout jumper but what a ***** in contact. He is no SB lock!
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
@Big Hit-445:
I didn’t think the short little fatman would have enough legs to get there.
8 Sep 2012, 14:05 pm
Good try Aussies. Weak defense on that wing
8 Sep 2012, 14:06 pm
brilliant kick Barnes, Boks really needed him to miss that
8 Sep 2012, 14:06 pm
Lambie in…
8 Sep 2012, 14:06 pm
Can’t watch this garbage any longer
This kicking game from 9 and 10 is the pits that has killed Bok rugby stone dead.
But everyone else going to get it in the neck for this loss except for the absolute culprits, Meyer and his penchant for kick chase trash from his 9 and 10
8 Sep 2012, 14:06 pm
9 mins left to avoid 7 from 8 and honorary title of Bunnyboks.
8 Sep 2012, 14:06 pm
FFS, I am losing a fortune
Damn HM, the Beast’s still on the field
8 Sep 2012, 14:06 pm
Good to see Lambie on.
8 Sep 2012, 14:07 pm
Goosen in…
8 Sep 2012, 14:07 pm
Jeandre is softer than Meyer’s cocksack
8 Sep 2012, 14:07 pm
This is just terrible. Oh my word.
8 Sep 2012, 14:07 pm
Oh great. Genius. Give the new guys a whole 9 minutes to try salvage this. F*ck this guy’s an idiot
8 Sep 2012, 14:07 pm
Duanne needs to work on his hands. Butter fingers tonight.
8 Sep 2012, 14:08 pm
@grant100-440: totally disagree. He’s there to score tries. Which he does. Just not for the Boks. Because the Bok wings never see the ball. But if this continues, who cares. Because half the Bok supporters would have stopped watching the Tests anyway.
8 Sep 2012, 14:08 pm
game over useless morne steyn, springboks are useless, same old boring kick, kick, kick.
8 Sep 2012, 14:09 pm
Lambie and Goosen in 1 minute game on. Is Meyer honestly this fuckingblind? Is he watching now? Is he seeing this?
8 Sep 2012, 14:09 pm
FuckyouMEYER!
8 Sep 2012, 14:09 pm
Boks looking a lot more threatening with Lambie on
8 Sep 2012, 14:09 pm
Great step by the young man…
8 Sep 2012, 14:09 pm
half-break from the special one
8 Sep 2012, 14:09 pm
I would tell Frans Steyn that if he throws one more skip pass I would make him perform Happy Ending Massages on the entire front row
8 Sep 2012, 14:10 pm
he’s been on for 2 minutes and he’s done more the morne –
how the heck do you not start goosen ???? what logic do you use to pick morne over the him HM
8 Sep 2012, 14:10 pm
Goosen just made more metres in his first touch than that dinosaur steyn has the whole match. Take off your blue glasses, Meyer you f ucking d oos!
8 Sep 2012, 14:10 pm
@Dusky-464: Duane has a lot to work on, but he has already done more good in 60 minutes than Spies has in 50 games.
8 Sep 2012, 14:10 pm
You’d hope Meyer was watching this. Lambie comes on and the game immediately changes for the better. Why not from the get go? Why stress us out with the rubbish for 70 minutes and chuck a victory in the trash first. I’m gobsmacked with the stupidity.
8 Sep 2012, 14:11 pm
@Atreides-463: Meyer is a real quim
8 Sep 2012, 14:11 pm
What the fark is Juandre Kruger doing farking around in the backline? People laughed at me when I said he’s not SB material. Tonight he proves it to all. He does not get down amd dirty in the rough stuff. Off with him!
8 Sep 2012, 14:11 pm
@Atreides-474: Very eloquently put. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
8 Sep 2012, 14:11 pm
@Big Hit-471:
lol
8 Sep 2012, 14:11 pm
as SOON as Goosen and Lambie come on its a 100% SWING from the Trash dished up by Steyn and Kirchner
Have you opened up your eyes YET Heyneke ??
8 Sep 2012, 14:12 pm
Jaundre Kruger having a worse game than Bekker had in Mendoza…..
8 Sep 2012, 14:12 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-475: I am not disagreeing with you.
8 Sep 2012, 14:12 pm
@boktillzero-473: How many Bulls caps does Goosen have?
That’s the answer.
8 Sep 2012, 14:13 pm
Ok…..If Meyer has the balls to actually play Lambie and Goosen next week, even if we lose, I will have hope for the future…but I know he won’t do it….Chickenshitfucker.
8 Sep 2012, 14:13 pm
can Boks secure a 3rd draw?
8 Sep 2012, 14:14 pm
Lambie needs to start next match
8 Sep 2012, 14:14 pm
Good throw Lieben!
8 Sep 2012, 14:14 pm
Great second half for the neutral!
8 Sep 2012, 14:14 pm
Now hopefully Lambie and Goosen will start in the next game!
8 Sep 2012, 14:14 pm
I know its hard, but its better we lose this chaps. Meyer needs to be exposed
8 Sep 2012, 14:14 pm
@Nils-484:
now now Nils, dont you start with your provincial bias 
8 Sep 2012, 14:15 pm
Liebenberg is the most inaccurate thrower in the southern hemisphere…
am I exaggerating?
8 Sep 2012, 14:15 pm
Lol
Now Goosen Kicks
8 Sep 2012, 14:15 pm
Great kick Goosen
8 Sep 2012, 14:15 pm
All blacks next week 50 points, springboks have no direction, game plan, back play non existent
8 Sep 2012, 14:15 pm
Meyer has been exposed with his blue underpants and blue balls for the world to see. The 2 young guns have done more with less than his blueballs have in 70 mins..
8 Sep 2012, 14:16 pm
@Dusky-491: In principle you are correct. But this Meyer is a special brand of stubborn mate…..
We will see this when he announces his team for next week.
8 Sep 2012, 14:16 pm
Juandre Kruger is hopelessly out of his depth
8 Sep 2012, 14:16 pm
@Hurricane-494: Coaches instruction mate. Guarantee you that.
8 Sep 2012, 14:17 pm
@RugbyStudent-499: Why are so few seeing this???????
8 Sep 2012, 14:17 pm
@poppa69-492: Why, this is obvious. Morne has more Bulls caps, therefore he plays.
8 Sep 2012, 14:17 pm
the offsides is larfable
8 Sep 2012, 14:18 pm
Wobblies all offside but too late anyway.
Absolutely pisspoor gameplane from Meyer
8 Sep 2012, 14:18 pm
Like I have said for sometime now. It doesn’t matter who the coach chooses – the game plan of skop voort by Steyn will count against us 9 out of 10 times. It’s desperation rugby and it doens’t bode well at all. Goosen comes on and makes the backline look good. He probably will be crapped on by the coach as he didn’t play according to plan. Siek en sat vir die K A K…
8 Sep 2012, 14:18 pm
@Nils-502: I miss Meisekind
8 Sep 2012, 14:18 pm
@fitz1ella-481: Hopefully Meyer becomes extinct over the next two years and we can get a real coach.
8 Sep 2012, 14:18 pm
3 wins 2 draws 1 loss = 50% win ratio
8 Sep 2012, 14:18 pm
Quadruple has had an excellent game
8 Sep 2012, 14:18 pm
Beaten by the Ozzies – ONCE AGAIN…
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
Why don’t we rename the Boks the Rhinos!! That will suit them with this kind of stupid play.
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
farken larfable
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-500:
Yeah suppose so. Plan needs to change
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
Wallabies 8 from 9..
eish, anyone say biatches?
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
Hey – I want my money back ! At least the boks (just) get a BP for losing by 7
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
Congrats aussies, well played
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
This is a piss poor Australian side.
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
Make no mistake, this is a weak Wallabies team and the Boks still lost to them..
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
The boks picked up a bonus point, do are still v much in the championship
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
How is that not penalty for not coming through the gate from the maul?
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
cannnot even beat a 3rd string wallaby team, up by 9 points, at half time, why wasn’t goosen brought on. Lambie should have been on, useless defence, no excuses.
8 Sep 2012, 14:19 pm
remember you bokkes said this Aussie team is rubbish
so what does that make yous
8 Sep 2012, 14:20 pm
Well done Ozzies.
PLayed a good game,they really needed to.
8 Sep 2012, 14:20 pm
The two best forwards Etsebeth and Coetzee replaced… Man this coach has no idea…
8 Sep 2012, 14:20 pm
This is the worst Wallabie team that I hv EVER seen, yet they beat the Boks !!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:20 pm
hard luck boks, well done wobs
I fear the carcass of a downed bull is about to be savaged
8 Sep 2012, 14:20 pm
hey guys….if Mallet is analysing the game can you please post what he says……
8 Sep 2012, 14:20 pm
Yeah well done Ozzies. You deserved the win…
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
the irb needs to get its house in order
its a farken joke
makes the whole point irrelevant
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
Keo, here is your Business Day headline for next week:
‘Meyer is ‘n groot d00s.’
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-498: Yep, but don’t worry. He is speeding his own demise. Turned out to be a first prize chop.
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
Those Plonkers beat us, got to pinch myself!
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
Pdivvie must be laughing his *** off
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
Rampant Rhino Rugby
Really
Really?
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
Quadruple = quade
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
I see this thread hitting the 1000 mark now..
BOOM!
Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
@brains_trust-525:
For sure! What does it say about our rugby…
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
If the players dissappointed the country in Mendoza, I wanna hear HM’s first interview after a loss…
8 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-529:
Sorry?
What did IRB do?
8 Sep 2012, 14:22 pm
Rigorous Rhino rugga
8 Sep 2012, 14:22 pm
Blue bulls rugby screwed up another fine day….HM is a plonker…kick and chase….**** me
8 Sep 2012, 14:22 pm
Its offical the Wallabies own the Bokke.
8 Sep 2012, 14:22 pm
Mediocre once again. I suppose we have got used to it…
Tac please come tell us what is going to happen next. Nie meer Bok Bevok nie…
8 Sep 2012, 14:22 pm
@poppa69-506: He certainly deserves to score his first “proper” international try before he reaches 60 as Italy just is not good enough.
8 Sep 2012, 14:22 pm
When Habana went off all went to siht
8 Sep 2012, 14:22 pm
Jean latching on to the “lack of experience” excuse…
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
So Heineken has finally been baptized.
Heineke and the Bunnyboks.
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
JDV first words: ‘probably one we should have won’
not the most gracious to the victors
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
official
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
Well jdv thinks we on a right track that’s all folks
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
The sad thing is it’s clear as daylight that there’s some serious footballers ready to take Bok rugby in a new direction yet Heyneke won’t set his sails accordingly.
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
thats it. well done Wallabies. Diserved win. Predicted. I have lost total respect for your coaching ability and more important, you ability to see the obvious. You will stick with this game plan. This is your way I suppose. Boks will continue losing both games and supporters for months to come until you take a large cheque and retire back to the Bulls. May it be sooner rather than later.
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
@Hurricane-539: did you expect anything else from Bakkies? I see he hasnt answered any of my posts pointing out Bokke cheating..
strange? nah, thats our bakkies..
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
@Hurricane-539:
oh come on hurri
you watched the same game i did
poor refereeing
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
Jeez we are in the ***** guys… This was a very ordinary Ozzie side… We can’t beat them then you must really be K A K
8 Sep 2012, 14:23 pm
@poppa69-514: I tried to warn those who blindly believe in the King Heyneke that the Aussies own us….and will continue to own us until a few changes are made where it counts.
8 Sep 2012, 14:24 pm
If goosen and lambie had come on at half time we might have won this
8 Sep 2012, 14:24 pm
Take the Prehistorians off at 10&15 and we look miles better
8 Sep 2012, 14:24 pm
@Big Hit-548:
lol
Not at all.
8 Sep 2012, 14:25 pm
We are useless without Spies in the team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:25 pm
@poppa69-553:
we should rather have taken the 3 points towards the end and build for a try
but it still was poor refereeing
complete joke this competition
i have faith, we’ll bounce back
8 Sep 2012, 14:25 pm
I feel for De Villiers. A soldier of a rugby man and great ambassador for the game ended up being captain under Meyer. I also feel for the youngsters, Lambie, Coetzee, Goosen, Vermeulen for the damage this will do to their very new careers. Its a shame.
8 Sep 2012, 14:25 pm
Earlier in the week I said we would lose by 12 points and only score 1 try.
Ok, so I was 5 points off. But we did only cross the chalk once.
8 Sep 2012, 14:25 pm
@RugbyStudent-545: Habana is the only real McCoy in the boks backline… none of the others would make a World XV team…
8 Sep 2012, 14:25 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-554: Of course it was poor reffing, the scoreboard is the proof.
Stuck record, mate.
8 Sep 2012, 14:26 pm
How things change:
Proteas #1 in all 3 formats
Rhinos, well, there is that…
8 Sep 2012, 14:26 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-554:
lol what?
You honestly think the ref blew the game against the Boks?
8 Sep 2012, 14:26 pm
@RugbyStudent-517: It’s an awful Australian side. One of the worst ever.
8 Sep 2012, 14:26 pm
looks like Madiba has taken up permanent residence in Australia
8 Sep 2012, 14:26 pm
@poppa69-536: you are the master of the understatement. 1500 to 2000 mark is more likely.
8 Sep 2012, 14:26 pm
@spartan-522:
It was a rubbish Wallabies team
Until Timani, Samo and Paulu Malu were replaced, Genia killed their possession just like M Styen did to us so they evened each other out.
8 Sep 2012, 14:27 pm
@Atreides-557:
Ja but the coach is protecting his two blue eyed boys… Steyn go play for the Bulls… PLEASE…
It’s so funny we all said Steyn and Niknaks man are K a k, yet the coach can’t see it…
Well he deserves what he gets if he is so frikken dumb.
8 Sep 2012, 14:27 pm
@Hurricane-567: The word “think” is not the appropriate one here.
8 Sep 2012, 14:27 pm
Yep as I’ve been saying since the 1/4 final exit…
Boks have no idea on how to, with ball-in-hand, have support players there to either take the off-load and more importantly hit and clean-out opposition players at pace… getting the quick-ball they need for the backs or pick-n-going at pace up the middle… nor can they counter-ruck on opposition ball…
Wallabies kept ball-in-hand and performed all of the above and took the game… splitting the Boks onto the back-foot…
Quite simple really… yet some will blame the kickers for the multiple turnovers, terribly slow ball and zero counter-rucking…
8 Sep 2012, 14:27 pm
Well played Australia, deserved win.
I don’t mind losing but the way the Boks are playing right now is nothing short of shambolic. I didn’t think it was possible to get any worse than the RWC loss, but I was wrong. The fact is that the conservative Afrikaner mentality of our coach counts against us, and always has. It is no coincidence that the only SA coaches of recent times who have had any success, Christie, Mallet and White, have all been english-speaking coaches. Afrikaners have many great qualities, but creativity and forward-thinking simply aren’t one of them. This is not an anti-Afrikaner rant, it’s a simple fact.
The ONLY way forward is to get rid of Meyer as soon as possible and appoint Mallet as coach. The ONLY way forward.
8 Sep 2012, 14:27 pm
@Dusky-562:
So true…
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-568:
No its not.
This is the problem with South African rugby.
You guys honestly think Ozzie are poor or rubbish. They have 7 out of 8 times against you guys.
When will they get a bit of respect from you lot?
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
Dear Hondo aka bang peos!
87% of the bok team is white. The Aussies have more blacks in their team.
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
Get rid of Juandre Kruger and Morne Steyn. The Bulls might have dominated the SB team previously but farking hell they’re useless!
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
@Hurricane-567: no. Thats rubbish. I watched the all 80 and the ref was fine.
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
@Nils-565:
doesn’t make it less true
@Hurricane-567:
****** decisions swing matches hurricane
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
Well played Australia, well deserved.
What now for SA ?
Much of the same I suppose….
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
@Gumboots-555: We are in 7 worlds of trouble and pain. And I won’t buy any excuses about injuries etc.
We have the players available right now to play some good rugby, and some winning rugby.
One thing standing in our way: our coach and his limited vision.
8 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
@Nils-573:
8 Sep 2012, 14:29 pm
@niknaks-575:
Mallet needs to do damage control for sure… This guy has no idea…
50% record… and we haven’t even played the Blacks yet…
8 Sep 2012, 14:29 pm
And please don’t anyone moan about the ref. That’s just pathetic. We lost against a very poor Wallaby team. End of.
8 Sep 2012, 14:29 pm
I am very disappointed with that game.
8 Sep 2012, 14:29 pm
HG – hope you enjoy France, I hear its lovely this time of year
8 Sep 2012, 14:30 pm
@TASSIES-580:
lol
Check post #181. Bakkies begs to differ. The ref cheated the Boks lol
8 Sep 2012, 14:30 pm
I’m ashamed to wear my Springbok jersey. To lose a test match with honour and class is one thing…WTF was THAT? We cannot tackle, have no ‘go forward’ plan. We are LOST and HM I have a question. Why do you FEEL the NEED to play these guys out of position? HOPELESS, PATHETIC and I NEVER thought I would say this about my beloved team….I AM EMBARRASSED.
8 Sep 2012, 14:30 pm
@niknaks-586:
Yes. Aussies very poor. That is what is so disappointing. Damn I feel kak.
8 Sep 2012, 14:30 pm
@Hurricane-577: They are very mediocre, Hurricane. They also played without Horwill and Pocock.
It shows you how poor the Boks actually are.
8 Sep 2012, 14:30 pm
mvovo must not play for the boks again.
at least unitil his coaches can sort his contact fear out
was very overwhelmed tonight
8 Sep 2012, 14:31 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-561: No problem with the ref. First order of business – get rid of Meyer and Morne Steyn. My guess is the only way we will ever see the back of the useless Morne Steyn is when we see the back of Heyneke Meyer.
8 Sep 2012, 14:31 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-583:
Can’t believe how our rugby has gone from bad to worse…
8 Sep 2012, 14:31 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-581:
lol
Bakkies, look i like you, your passion is what i expect from a pure South African fan….. But there are times you have to bite the bullet and accept, the Boks were not good enough today.
8 Sep 2012, 14:32 pm
Morne Steyn must go now useless beyond belief. He must tale that Mvovo pooftah with him, he cost the Boks 10 points and that aint an exageration.
Pathetic fron Heineken.
8 Sep 2012, 14:33 pm
Thirteen days ago I spelt out the immense dread you mad dalmations chasing your tails had for this Sept. 8th day; it called for a AB victory followed by an Aussie victory and the gods delivered manfully.
But wake up as Sept. 15th lies 7 days ahead yet and the final wrapping-up of this first Rugby Championship will be emphatically confirmed.
September morns, who needs October or November. or December?
An astounding heroic victory you Aussies. I salute your performance.
8 Sep 2012, 14:33 pm
The Meyer assistant coach clan from the Bulls haven’t done ****. Who is the defensive coach?
8 Sep 2012, 14:33 pm
Mallet says this is a weak Ozzie team
8 Sep 2012, 14:33 pm
Mallett on Goosen and Lambie….will the Meyer of Pretoria listen?
8 Sep 2012, 14:33 pm
Mallet agrees that HM is K A K
8 Sep 2012, 14:33 pm
@Hurricane-596:
Not good enough? That’s the understatement of the century. They were clueless…
8 Sep 2012, 14:33 pm
Goosen should start every game, Lambie should start every game.
Going to be another 4 years of not learning anything.
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
Robbie Deans looks happy, good for him… might take a bit of pressure off for a little while..
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
The instant Meyer selected his Bulls coaching assistant team the writing was on the wall. When he said he favors execution over innovation I gave up hope.
He’s got no real rugby coaches to steer him in a different direction and question his approach- he wants guys that think like him to assist him, including the son of the Blue Bulls CEO and Ricardo Loubscher and Meyer’s thinking is about as limited and blunt as it gets. No rugby team is as conservative as Meyer’s Boks, so cynically negative and uncreative.
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
Is Mallett popping another vein?
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
Who is the defensive coach?
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-601:
Ja jong… Ek weet nie. It is laughable…
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
@Dusky-594:
not true, he does not get a clean sheet. some poor calls especially towards the end of the game. i see the ozzies are also honoured with final, final warnings for a card only for said card never to arrive.
this kak swings games.
@Hurricane-596:
no
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
@Hurricane-577: you make a good point. But lets face it, this was not a good game from two so called world class teams and one team(Springboks) with a massive winning pedigree. Most of us are simply pissed off because this was one of the worst Springbok performances given the players at the coach’s disposal. Bottom line: lousy coach.
8 Sep 2012, 14:34 pm
HM record 3 wins 2 draws and 1 defeat (next week it will be 2 defeats)
boks need
1) the coach to swollow his pride
2) any game plan which has goosen and lambie as starters i dont care even if they are picked as locks (…excuse the pun)
3) bismark, brussow, burger, juan
8 Sep 2012, 14:35 pm
Only grievance is that the Aus try came off a lineout from a srum penalty that shouldn’t have been….otherwise we were ****.
8 Sep 2012, 14:35 pm
FFS eina loss this. Piss poor second half.
8 Sep 2012, 14:36 pm
Maybe Samoa should take the Boks place in the championship? they can beat the criminals
8 Sep 2012, 14:36 pm
Clueless Up an Under in our 22 leads to last try can they please ban up an unders or ration it to only 2 per half like they do with bouncers in cricket SA will take forever to learn that you can’t win if you kick away the ball aimlessly
8 Sep 2012, 14:36 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-610:
lol
no,nice answer.
8 Sep 2012, 14:36 pm
@Hurricane-596:
boks were the better team save for one or two lapses
mvovo especially was costly.
reffing was substandard and one way
8 Sep 2012, 14:37 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-610: bakkies lets just be honest about what we’ve just seen. This result had squat to do with the match officials. You can keep bleating but its simply not going to wash fella. This oke Meyer is simply useless. Period. After six Tests its obvious.
8 Sep 2012, 14:37 pm
Bliksem Mallet realy did’nt like Gaffie…
8 Sep 2012, 14:37 pm
Once Meyer drops those useless Tories-M. Steyn and Kirchner- there might be a chance at winning the home games with Goosen and Lambie taking their places. I’m supporting the Boks til death but the chances of coming away with a victory next week are very small. The game plan just isn’t good enough to come away with four points. A new game plan is needed. It is becoming tiring and tedious watching a wet weather rugby game plan being deployed on a fast pitch in good conditions. That’s why the Springboks lost. So many chances but what do those useless Tories do? Kick the ball away.
8 Sep 2012, 14:37 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-618: lol oh my god, you are sad..
8 Sep 2012, 14:38 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-618:
You’ve lost it…
8 Sep 2012, 14:38 pm
@TASSIES-611:
Yep, feel for ya Tassies.
8 Sep 2012, 14:38 pm
@Hurricane-577: This current 2012 Deans Aussie side is one of the worst ever. Unsettled combinations, missing key players, poor incoming player depth, arbirtrary gameplan and hopelessly out of form players who played themselves into form against this Springbok rabble.
8 Sep 2012, 14:38 pm
Remind me why is Ricardo Launscher backline coach? Based on what resume?
8 Sep 2012, 14:39 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-618: cmon mate, you guys blew a couple of tries as well in that first half..
8 Sep 2012, 14:39 pm
@Hurricane-577: They have my respect mate, always have and always will. Fuckme, if our record against them doesn’t convince people they are a class outfit (regardless of which team runs out for them), then I don’t know.
Even Naas questioning the ‘plan’.
8 Sep 2012, 14:40 pm
Gaan nou n moerse vuur maak en n kakhuis vol bier drink. Cheers everybody…..and Zinto………go fark yourself!!!!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:40 pm
HM the Ozzies are a quality time. Bwhahaaaaa
8 Sep 2012, 14:40 pm
@Hurricane-596:
“a pure South African fan” this historically and by definition is a committed racist, so do you truly “like” this?
8 Sep 2012, 14:40 pm
side…
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
@TASSIES-619:
a blatantly wrong scrum penalty and they score?
head high tackles not blown?
the offsides at the end there was larfable?
ozzies infected with kiwi forward pass syndrome? nicely unoticed?
breakdown was a larf?
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-618:
Boks looked the part, i agree. But Ozzies were finding it easy at times making and crossing the adv line, not the refs doing there.
I think you should look at the other problems in the team, i can see a couple of players and tactics that lost the game instead of the ref. I thought the ref played ok.
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-618: no you are wrong. Perhaps you should listen to Naas Botha, Nick Mallett, John Mitchell and David Campese. Don’t take my word for it. they just happen to share my opinion co-incidently.
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
wonder if Morne will be able to hit the roof next week?
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
@boktillzero-612:
It’s not a case of Meyer’s pride getting in the way. It’s his conservative, boring, unimaginative gameplan, and his plain stupid approach to selection. He talks about temperament but look at how he acts in the coaching box. It’s pathetic and I’d love nothing more than to stick that farkin walkie-talkie up his ****
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
Luv u bakkies – you are embarrasing your country. STFU.
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-620: Nope, he is saying he really doesn’t like Morne Steyn. (if you read between the lines…)
8 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
@TASSIES-619:
@poppa69-622:
@Gumboots-623:
watch the game again
open your eyes
8 Sep 2012, 14:42 pm
Heineke thinks it was soft moments I mean there whole game was a soft game
8 Sep 2012, 14:42 pm
Luv u bakkies – you are embarrasing your country.
8 Sep 2012, 14:42 pm
@Neilanate-631:
huh?
Sorry i am Kiwi, i dont understand your problems in south africa and would rather not get involved.
8 Sep 2012, 14:42 pm
Blue Bulls forward coach, van Graan ****
Blue Bulls defence coach, McFarland utterly ****.
Blue Bulls backs coach/ tukkies Ricardo Loubscher absolutely ****.
Mediocrity leads to mediocrity, as for Meyer, like de Villiers, useless.
8 Sep 2012, 14:42 pm
@Gumboots-600: I feel stupid that I backed Meyer.
8 Sep 2012, 14:42 pm
@poppa69-636: He will not start.
8 Sep 2012, 14:43 pm
Naas says you must pick Lambie and Goosen but let them play their style of rugby. Don’t dictate to them. Well the coach does just that…
8 Sep 2012, 14:43 pm
Meyer behind that mike and in the coaches’ box looks like he is at a Boeremag gathering whipping up his ‘stormmagte’ angrily. He is a maniac behind that mike
8 Sep 2012, 14:43 pm
@Big Hit-607: neh… he says he is more dissappointed than upset this week..
8 Sep 2012, 14:44 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-629:
tjeers ou vriend en geniet.
8 Sep 2012, 14:44 pm
@willievz-646: really? you think Meyer will throw the Goose to the ABs? not so sure mate
8 Sep 2012, 14:44 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-581: No, Bakkies, it just makes more annoying whinge. All you see is the “other” team. What Boks (or Argies for that matter) do, does not bother you at the slightest.
Really get a life, whinger.
8 Sep 2012, 14:45 pm
@Hurricane-643:
I know that Hurri and that’s why I ask you.
Now I ask you do you still have the doubts you had about Cruden before the 2011 RWC?’
8 Sep 2012, 14:45 pm
@Dusky-645:
I was not happy after his first team choice…very blue bias even though they were poor. The writing was on the wall…
8 Sep 2012, 14:46 pm
@maximus1-644: Our problems begin and end with that disgusting farce of a coaching team. End of story.
8 Sep 2012, 14:46 pm
@poppa69-651: Yes he will.
He is desperate.
8 Sep 2012, 14:46 pm
@poppa69-651:
He can’t do worse. Oh yes he can…Steyn at 10
8 Sep 2012, 14:46 pm
Just saw the HM post match interview. Which F Uking game was that C*nt watching?
8 Sep 2012, 14:46 pm
Let’s start a petition to get Meyer out. Start early.
8 Sep 2012, 14:46 pm
@Dusky-645: Did you? I must be honest, I was rather shocked by the amount of support Meyer got with his appointment. I could not understand how people could be so fooled when if they had been honest with themselves, they would have known what was coming………(especially those NOT living in Pretoria).
8 Sep 2012, 14:47 pm
@willievz-656: Id go with Lambie personally, if I was in his position…
8 Sep 2012, 14:48 pm
@Hurricane-634:
the last twenty minutes were his poorest, lets face it he was outstanding rather substandard.
goosen looks good yes and maybe he should get a start.
sure meyer has his work cut out but i believe we will come good. we could still win this.
@TASSIES-635:
you know what they about opinions
everybody has one
@hanneslom-642:
freedom of expression boet
whatever….
8 Sep 2012, 14:49 pm
@Nils-652:
I know you are looking forward with great anticipation to Sept. 15th for you expect to and will witness the confirmation of the first Rugby Championship too being garnered by the all-conquering ABs.
8 Sep 2012, 14:49 pm
@Nils-652:
please
scroll on by
8 Sep 2012, 14:49 pm
@Neilanate-653:
Mate, i still worry about Cruden.
No doubt he can play the game and i think more time behind the AB pack will help.
Only cos we have become accustomed toCarter running things and have complete faith what he does is correct.
8 Sep 2012, 14:50 pm
cant believe Shipperley got MOTM.. had a good game but..
8 Sep 2012, 14:50 pm
@Dusky-659: I’m with you. I’m firmy on the anti-Meyer bandwagon now. He must fuckoff ASAP.
8 Sep 2012, 14:50 pm
Bakkies you’re making your name gat now.please stop blaming the ref.
8 Sep 2012, 14:50 pm
best idea from campo HM wants to slow the ball down but one of the best fetchers is playing currie cup rugby wft . we’ll need more than lambie and goosen playing we need heinrich brussow and a good game plan otherwise goosen will be “forced to become another morne” we’ve seen it with houghard at 9
8 Sep 2012, 14:51 pm
@Hurricane-634: pretty much how I saw it to Mr H.
Our guys have the skills. No question about that. The continuous selection of Morne Steyn and the very clear game plan prescribed to the players, particularly the backline, will determine this result today will be repeated like a stuck record.
8 Sep 2012, 14:52 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-662:
Yeah i think Goosen should not start next week. But i think he should get at least 20 mins on the park.
9 mins is a fukn joke. Lambie, needs to start at the back.
8 Sep 2012, 14:52 pm
The scary thing is:
HM says there is only one game plan, we just need to perfect it…
Now that puts confidence is all NOT
8 Sep 2012, 14:53 pm
That kind of stubbornness to see no sense by Meyer is a mind boggling
Styen kicked away at least 80% of the good possession from Pienaar under ideal situations, the Wallabies forwards – at least until Samo and Timani replaced – were soft and posed no threat to the pick and drive movements.
And why not a 5:2 bench split, with Elstadt/Deysel/ Bressler the extra forwards to keep up the bashing if that the only gameplan HM can devise?
Keeping the Beast for 80 minutes has rewarded HM with a handsome return
Justice is poetic
8 Sep 2012, 14:53 pm
HM Time to Go I suffered “The Clown” PDivvy for FOUR FALKIN Years, I don’t suffer fools anymore.
Take De Villiers with you HE is OLD
Mvovo He is a **** Scared little boy
Hougard does not belong at TEST level
M. Steyn is passed it
F. Steyn is Not what he used to be and can only run straight lines
Willem Alberts is just plain stupid…big beef can only run into walls
Jannie DPlessis is too busted up
Cheesus Crackers…Start a succession plan, I’m SOOOOOOOOO SICK and TIRED to AVERAGE and **** AUssie sides!!!
8 Sep 2012, 14:53 pm
@poppa69-666: Berrick Barnes should have won motm
8 Sep 2012, 14:54 pm
@Rage-668:
boks are a very young side and yes they are still growing and will make mistakes but to make beleieve the reffing was not substandard is equally stupid
8 Sep 2012, 14:54 pm
@Neilanate-663: Frankly, I am more anticipating Aus-Arg clash and will shout for the Pumas. ABs-Boks next game does not generate any big excitement for me, it’s like robbing the blind.
8 Sep 2012, 14:54 pm
@poppa69-651:
To save himself and his disciples from continueing public blame and shame, and out of sheer desperation he may well feed the youngsters to the wolves.
8 Sep 2012, 14:55 pm
@Big Hit-675: agreed , was very strong with ball in hand, made some real telling runs
8 Sep 2012, 14:55 pm
The ref was fantastic… The Boks were piss poor… HM is a bigger joker than PDivvy could ever be…
8 Sep 2012, 14:55 pm
Meyer lucky to be black coach otherwise all the racists will be out calling names. He is never been a good coach just lucky to have been super rugby era where bulls just had too much world class rugby talent in one team and weak opposition now the real coach must come out and fix this bok fodder no game plan Hougaard is a 9, jdv is a 12 and f styn more creative at 13 and that bok pack is starting to be pushed around so how Do feel all Meyer supporters time to stand up
8 Sep 2012, 14:56 pm
i cant say much for vermeulen
8 Sep 2012, 14:56 pm
@Nils-677:
It will be another great September morn. Let it roll on.
8 Sep 2012, 14:56 pm
@Nils-677:
This Puma team is a breath of fresh air to the championship.
I like watching themplay. They have heart and mongrel.
8 Sep 2012, 14:56 pm
@Gumboots-680:
not true
8 Sep 2012, 14:57 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-685:
Which part? HM is the biggest joker or the Boks were piss poor?
8 Sep 2012, 14:58 pm
676 Bakkies
pal look around and see how many people are blaming the ref.I count 1…
8 Sep 2012, 14:58 pm
@Gumboots-686:
lol
8 Sep 2012, 14:58 pm
@Hurricane-684:
They do too. They should have beaten us last week but we had a lucky escape…
8 Sep 2012, 14:58 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-660: Yep I did. Based on the fact that this was the man at the wheel that steered the Bulls back from obscurity. But it looks to me that it was more Matfield, Botha, Rossouw, Du Preez that can be credited with that rather than Meyer.
8 Sep 2012, 14:58 pm
@Nils-677: NZ doesn’t need you to be arrogant on their behalf, they’re perfectly capable of it themselves.
Rather get excited about Latvia in the European Nations Cup (Division 2B)
8 Sep 2012, 14:59 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-662: yes I know and we’re all got one. Which is fine. You believe what you want to believe but understand you have a mountain to climb to convince the majority of us who’ve just recently witnessed the most brain-dead rugby we’ve all seen in many a year. It just doesn’t work because you lose. Including the next three games. Not good enough in my book.
8 Sep 2012, 14:59 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-685: time for a kiwi coach of the Boks mate..
8 Sep 2012, 15:00 pm
@TASSIES-635: what did they say?
8 Sep 2012, 15:00 pm
@poppa69-693:
You are so right.
8 Sep 2012, 15:01 pm
@Big Hit-691: dont be like that BH, I reckon Latvia could give the boks a run for their money
8 Sep 2012, 15:01 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-676: Nothing wrong with the ref today. I can’t believe you call yourself a lover of the game, but still defend Meyers stupid, hard headed decisions ? Get real.
8 Sep 2012, 15:02 pm
@Big Hit-691:
Why thank you.
8 Sep 2012, 15:03 pm
At the moment there are the All Blacks and then the rest…
That is how far ahead they are of the rest of the rugby playing nations…
8 Sep 2012, 15:03 pm
Meyer is looking grayer by the day
8 Sep 2012, 15:04 pm
@Gumboots-695:
Hey, dont do that. I would hate to see Graham Henry wearing a Bok jersey. Wearing a Puma one is hard enough.
8 Sep 2012, 15:04 pm
@Dusky-690: sounds like a credible reason. They were some of the best players in their positions, in the world. One might even be the best ever.
8 Sep 2012, 15:05 pm
@Gumboots-686:
the ref man
the ref
are you even listening?
8 Sep 2012, 15:05 pm
I wonder if Meyer will drop half the team and replace them with new Boks next week ?
8 Sep 2012, 15:05 pm
@Hurricane-701:
He will look good in green…
8 Sep 2012, 15:06 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-703:
8 Sep 2012, 15:07 pm
@TASSIES-692:
agreed, either way we have work to do.
its not all about the ref.
@poppa69-693:
that will never ever happen pops.
we will improve
then you will be sad
8 Sep 2012, 15:08 pm
this management team is reminding me of the 1974 Boks….. conservative, heads in the sand, players selected out of position etc.
8 Sep 2012, 15:08 pm
@XV-694: they were pretty much in agreement that it was a poor performance by both teams(a poor game of rugby according to Campo) and could not understand how you could have players like Goosen and Lambie on the bench and particularly why they only got 10 mins game time. They bemoaned the game plan, playing philosophy particularly how one played without a fetcher of the class of Brussouw. Good valid points I’d think.
8 Sep 2012, 15:08 pm
It’s a challenging period for the Boks with several experienced players injured.
It’s a transition period, really a time for fresh ideas. Week in and week out the same conclusion is reached: we need more creativity.
Players 8-9-10-12 is where we have a problem and the bizarre obsession to force a particular game plan onto players. Dominating the opposition is not an option so what is next?
You have to apply your mind to outwit the opposition; by being competitive you will merely regret ‘soft moments’ in games week in and week out.
I say again: PdV had the game plan but was usurped by Victor Matfield and Fourie du Preez, two of Meyer’s lieutenants. It is quite possible that we will not win anymore this 4N. That is my prediction anyway.
8 Sep 2012, 15:09 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-707: a weeks a long time in Rugby bakkies…
I wont be sad, we have the Argies to test us these days
8 Sep 2012, 15:09 pm
@Big Hit-691:
Only a fool dampens rugby enthusiasm irrespective of where it hails from or to whom it is directed.
8 Sep 2012, 15:10 pm
@Gumboots-706:
ag nee fok man, watter gedeelte van my antwoord verstaan jy nie?
8 Sep 2012, 15:10 pm
All not lost yet, but HM needs to realise as a white coach he cannot afford to lose any further, a loss to the ABs and he has gone!
S. African reality if you like
Do the Dawie Theron thing: clear out the passengers!
8 Sep 2012, 15:11 pm
@TASSIES-709: thank you sir
8 Sep 2012, 15:11 pm
Meyer said; judge me at the world cup.. in 4 years time.
8 Sep 2012, 15:11 pm
@Hurricane-684: Yes, it was a great joy to me when they finally were admitted. I was anxious how they will fare and if someone told me before the tourney they won’t lose all six games, I’d be delighted. Now I want more – them finishing above last place.
@Big Hit-691: I do not care at the slightest where and how they play. The ENC top tier is the lowest level of international rugby I am interested in.
And I am not arrogant regarding the next game. Just judging by recent performances Boks look pisspoor, real Bunnyboks. If they keep playing like that (and Heineken does not look like changing his tune – remember his famous quip ‘picking players is not coaching’) they have no hope in hell next week.
8 Sep 2012, 15:12 pm
All blacks not even at their best seem every is falling behind just the boks at faster rate all games have been poor quality gone are the days of real gridon rugby and superb match can’t watch any of this **** and be satisfied from just pure rugby show. Hilton vs michealhouse have been better shows
8 Sep 2012, 15:12 pm
@Dusky-697:
no, i am not saying it was all abou tthe ref today but he was poor, especially towards the end.
and yes there is work to do for meyer but i beleive we will improve. this was a much improved game from two weeks ago and remember this is a young bok team.
8 Sep 2012, 15:13 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-707:
We havnt been sad for a while now but we know its not nice. We hate losing….well i do.
8 Sep 2012, 15:14 pm
@poppa69-711:
test away pops, test away
we will be back
8 Sep 2012, 15:14 pm
@niknaks-637:
indeed but for him to change from that conservative game plan would require him admitting that his plan is stale and seek a lot of assistance from outside his current coaching team and that means literally humbling himself and killing any pride or ego he may have.
You are right he blows up in the box as if to suggest the players are the ones messing up but look at what happen the second Goosen and Lambie stepped in albeit with only 5 minutes to play there was more attack than the whole 75 minutes before that .
now why did he wait so long to get them on? He believes so much in his Plan A that he’ll wait until the very last minute before he gives up on it . it reeks of an overly arrogant man. well with his stats he has no choice but to change both his attitude and game plan
8 Sep 2012, 15:15 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-719:
Yes we know its a young bok team. HM told us in the beggining and then at the end.
8 Sep 2012, 15:15 pm
@Big Hit-691: And by the way, Latvia have never ever lost to England.
8 Sep 2012, 15:15 pm
@Hurricane-665:
Have you ever seen anything more sublime than Cruden’s 24 mins. against a cheeky Ireland who thought they could beat the ABs that day based on their close run the previous Saturday?
Cruden in that Chiefs backline and with SBW alongside was pure joy to behold this Super season too.
8 Sep 2012, 15:16 pm
Tied of this experience rubbish boks had more caps than Ausies. All black have a relatively new back team but cracking the whip from day one
8 Sep 2012, 15:17 pm
@Hondo-714:
ag hondo, you are a ridiculous bigot who’s arguments always contradict itself.
dawie theron carried the number 8 passenger all the way to he final.
but i suppose that just validates you argument.
gaan skuit man.
8 Sep 2012, 15:17 pm
@zambok-726:
Ja we have become a country of excuses…
8 Sep 2012, 15:18 pm
Meyer said the previous coach had no succession plan and when JohnS, VicM, BakkiesB, JacqueF and FdP retired and we had no back up players. Add to that the loss of PierreS, SBurger, Juan Smith, JPP – and the Boks find themselves in a world of hurt.
So it is all PdVs fault…
8 Sep 2012, 15:19 pm
@Hurricane-723:
for such a young team with such new combinations they are actually doing really well.
but winning is the only acceptable option, of course.
8 Sep 2012, 15:21 pm
@Neilanate-725:
Yep forgot about the Cruden against Ireland and the Chiefs super 15 year.
He is a class player. I think we need to start playing him more now. DC isnt getting any younger and will DC be at the next RWC? Who knows, anything could happen.
Makes you think that HM needs to take this Championship cup as a trial for his new players.Goosen starts with Lambie at back. He might as well now.
8 Sep 2012, 15:21 pm
Ruan looked like he fell asleep a few times on the field today.
8 Sep 2012, 15:22 pm
Cheers all…
Well done Ozzies… Piss poor Boks…
8 Sep 2012, 15:22 pm
@brains_trust-729:
in a way, yes. but although he may be responsible for it, it is still meyer’s palce to take the blame for a team losing under him.
8 Sep 2012, 15:23 pm
actually though niknaks played well today …… players don’t pick themselves they coach does otherwise brussow wouldn’t be playing currie cup damn the allblacks will have a field day next week
8 Sep 2012, 15:23 pm
@Gumboots-733:
cheers boots
8 Sep 2012, 15:24 pm
@Gumboots-733:
cheers mate, cya later
8 Sep 2012, 15:28 pm
Cruden is great, but probably won’t quite have the career that Carter has had. IMO, the next outstanding AB player that will set the benchmark in his position is Dagg
8 Sep 2012, 15:28 pm
@Dusky-704: I don’t think he will. The loss had nothing to do with the players perse. If he going to play Morne Steyn again then he needs a new game plan. Play like a flyhalf. Mix it up. Introduce some creativity into play. This team has the quality to execute but they must be given the rein to do so.
8 Sep 2012, 15:29 pm
Yoh…….. First of all well done Wallabies. Your confidence must have been at an alltime low going into half time and you overcame your demons and won the game.
Bokke…….
Even though we lost today the gameplan and HM strategies are interesting and I feel given the time will develop into a winning formula.
IMO the lack of LEADERSHIP and EXPERIENCE cost us the game today.
I’m a die hard Stormers fan and have probably the most respect for JDV going back to 2001 than anyone on this forum, but I feel you cannot play Frans and Jean as a centre pairing. They are the same player and the wings will never get any go forward ball with the two of them as a combo. Frans has more to offer therefore Jean has to go.
But who the fark is going to lead us……
8 Sep 2012, 15:29 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-734: absolutely right.
8 Sep 2012, 15:30 pm
Just thought I would pop in as say that the Boks gave it their all… Total commitment to to the cause. The white supremacist ideals of the Springbok has been dealt a massive blow but all is not lost. They can quite easily blame Kirschner for the lose.. and maybe Beast for the sin binning and then organise some dodgy refs linesmen for the home leg.
The incompetence of HM is indicative of the country as a whole.
8 Sep 2012, 15:32 pm
South Africans never cease to amaze me – the Boks have been playing this mindless rugby for a long time. When teams stand up to our intimidatory/bullying tactics, there just is no alternative. Yet we still expect to win. Tell you it is INSANITY!!!
8 Sep 2012, 15:35 pm
OK all Cheers, gotta go.
Remember there is always next week and who knows maybe HM read Keo blogs, as long as he does not read Bakkies blogs he might learn something…..sorry bakkies
8 Sep 2012, 15:37 pm
@Jeraldjay-740: interesting take. I don’t happen to agree but always find value in another view. Personally, I don’t think JDV is the problem. How can he be? He hardly ever sees the ball. It rarely reaches him. Good ball is either kicked in some way or form by Morne or if he happens to pass to Steyn, the move is to crash it up and set it up for another phase lead by the forwards. Meyer’s game plan is not about running rugby. He’s pretty much said as much. So why does JDV need to be a decent 13. Under Meyer’s style he needs to be able to lead, dictate play and defend,defend and defend. Points will come primarily from the boot of Steyn and Steyn. THAT is the Meyer way. And its never going to work against the top teams in world rugby.
8 Sep 2012, 15:38 pm
ja well no fine.
8 Sep 2012, 15:40 pm
It has taken us less than 10 games to realize that Meyer is not the answer.
He is not the right culture fit and here I am not referring to his race, but his ideas, playing style and desire for structure.
Dont forget I said a few months ago 45-10 against the ABs; it wont be far out as there is about a 30 point difference between us and the ABs at the moment.
The sad part is that we have the players to construct things but Meyer’s influence will smother all creativity.
8 Sep 2012, 15:43 pm
the players just don’t look like they’re enjoying themselves on the field…
8 Sep 2012, 15:44 pm
@grant10-746: Hang in there, bud.
@Sheriff-747: I realised HM was not the answer the second he selected his coaching team. I wasn’t a fan of him becoming Bok coach in the first place but I figured HM with a strong coaching team will have the Boks better off than they were under Pdv,Muir and Gold. Sadly, he selected equally inept assistants. His comments that there was only one game plan and execution was the answer, not innovation, was the last straw.
8 Sep 2012, 15:44 pm
@Sheriff-710: pretty well summed up I think.
8 Sep 2012, 15:46 pm
@Hurricane-744:
chop
cheers
8 Sep 2012, 15:46 pm
@Peter Mkata-743:
But Pete we have shown that strategy since ’76 already. Stand up to their bullying, make things ungovernable and you find they have an inadequate or just NO response. World capitalism baled them out but at least everyone has a vote.
Great rugby day though.
8 Sep 2012, 15:48 pm
the best coaches were sitting in the Supersport Commentary box in Jo burg
8 Sep 2012, 15:48 pm
@TASSIES-745:
We both know that forward play will never be an issue. We got that covered and are on par with anyone and will always be.
The issue is attacking options when the ball leaves the scrum halves hands.
Morne should not be in the team. He knows it, we know, even Pretoria knows it and believe me after today HM knows it.
Goosen will change the dynamic completely. HM’s coaching will evolve and will be dictated by Goosen more than the other way around.
Jean won’t last till 2015 so might aswell chuck JDJ into the mix.
8 Sep 2012, 15:50 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-749: I have to admit to not having your foresight. I did think Meyer was a good selection as national coach. when he started making his first utterances in public post his appointment I became a tad concerned. His choice of assistant coaches(ex Bulls management) I grew more concerned still. After the first Test against Pom I thought “this style sucks” but we won and I put it down to new boys on the block. Now I’ve given up. This guy’s conservative, determined, unwavering and will not change. Creativity will be the enemy. And that’s the death of Springbok rugby in the short term under this management. I’m very depressed. We have another John Williams.
8 Sep 2012, 15:51 pm
@TASSIES-741:
absoutely right that pdivvy was repsosble for succession failure but also right that meyer is responsible for the blame now, yes.
@youknowwho-742:
no nothing racial. it the team loses then the boks lose, we all lose.
but mvovo was pants today and should not play for the boks until his fear of contact is resolved.
@Hurricane-744:
the funny thing is, going by heyneke’s post match interview it would seem we are on the same page
8 Sep 2012, 15:51 pm
Bakkies Meyer is now at 50% below Deans who you said was atrocious and should lose his job, makes you wonder doesn’t it.
8 Sep 2012, 15:53 pm
@grant10-753:
mallet and naas?
8 Sep 2012, 15:54 pm
@TASSIES-745: the starting backline has the MOST experience out of all the players but their option taking is appauling especially with ball in hand on attack.
meyer harps on about inexperience but those okes have 2 world cups amongst them.
8 Sep 2012, 15:55 pm
@Jeraldjay-754: Hell I hope you’re predicting the truth. But help me on this: If Goosen is going to be the tail wagging the dog like you say, how come he played his master’s way by kicking away good ball five minutes from time, in the middle of the paddock and we were seven points adrift. It didn’t even go out and he turned over ball to the Oz. Pretty daft I’d say(under the circumstances). The question is; has he been indoctrinated into HM’s game plan already. That kick effectively ensured we lost the game.
8 Sep 2012, 15:55 pm
@NZINCHINA-757:
huh?
no he is not..?
you maths is atrocious china
8 Sep 2012, 15:56 pm
wow, you do like making up excuses guys, i thought it was a one time thing against us in Buenos Aires, but you are natural whiners!
haha, just kidding, cheers from Los Pumas, we can´t wait to play you again in a year.
8 Sep 2012, 15:58 pm
@TASSIES-755: It’s really depressing. Three years now of pain and misery for Springbok fans since the highs of 2009. It’s highly unlikely Meyer will abandon his rugby philosophies and with no-one to challenge them it looks like the dry spell will continue for a while.
8 Sep 2012, 15:59 pm
Todays game was a clear statement that Meyer, Loubscher, and Van Graan are strictly super rugby coaches. The players are confused, Meyer doesn’t have answers, and the worst part, Meyer as a general has brought two GI’s to advise him. Meyer must ask Mallett and Mitchell to come on as technical advisers, Erasmus has a full time job, Meyer needs experienced test coaches to marshal him and upskill him.
8 Sep 2012, 15:59 pm
@Transformation-759: its exactly as you say. But if the gameplan dictates they play this way, how can one blame the players both experienced and newbe’s alike?
8 Sep 2012, 16:00 pm
whats his winning ratio after tonight then?
8 Sep 2012, 16:00 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-756: Yep it was Mvovo who lost it for the boks… nothing racial.. may its pigmentation.. race is a lazy category
8 Sep 2012, 16:02 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-763: afraid you share my potential depression. It a long time to wait for a change. Worse still, nothing’s guaranteed to change, given the quality of South African rugby management. We have the players. We lack good management.
8 Sep 2012, 16:04 pm
@TASSIES-760:
As bad a coach as you think HM is he definitely would NOT have instructed Goosen to kick that ball. That instinct came from a player that has played 10 mins of test match rugby.
Have faith, its going to get worse and probably unbearable but if we believe in the players we have available and back the coach till the end of this year then we have hope.
8 Sep 2012, 16:04 pm
@mpundulu-764: Agreed 100 %. But instead he’s got his two lackeys from the Bulls camp including the CEO’s son marching to his monosyllabic tune. The guys well in his comfort zone, with his solitary game-plan, his Blue buddies and everything that he knows to be true in the rugby world. The players just need to execute.
8 Sep 2012, 16:05 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-763: and then there’s the return of P Spies to look forward to. He’s injured. But he’s also one of Meyer’s favourite sons. Keeps getting better. Where’s my bottle?
8 Sep 2012, 16:05 pm
@Transformation-748:
Could not agree more.
It’s the coach’s responsibility to create an environment of freedom, opportunity and excellence.
The leader casts a vision, a promised land which the players aspire to and they enjoy themselves as they work to get closer to this land of ‘milk and honey’
Meyer brings a desire for control (walkie talkie) and rigidity that I personally associate with religion. And if I listen to Jean he sounds like someone who is judging himself, a man shackled and not free to voice his ideas and opinions.
I’m tempted to write 100 paragraphs about Afrikaners and religion here but let’s just say that he is not a culture fit.
8 Sep 2012, 16:08 pm
My abacus reads played 6 won 3 is that not correct Bakkies?
8 Sep 2012, 16:08 pm
@TASSIES-771: And I think Meyer approves very much of Kirtchners performance today. Gee Whiz the distance of some of those kicks! An he didn’t make one mistake. Think he’s secured another 20 Bok caps for himself. Happy days ahead.
8 Sep 2012, 16:09 pm
@Jeraldjay-769: I’d like to share your confidence boet. But in the mood I’m in, it is going to take a thorough thrashing of the Poms this afternoon to raise the gloom. I can take defeat. No problem. Its just the future I’m visualising without valium to help.
8 Sep 2012, 16:12 pm
The most amazing thing (apart from isolated Argentina doing so well) is that Australia have so meagre player pool comparing to other major nations that they can hardly equip 2 good club teams in whole country, yet consistently are near the very top and currently own such a rich rugby country like South Africa. Nothing but a small wonder.
8 Sep 2012, 16:12 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-774: Yes. He was good wasn’t he. Incredibly well diciplined too. Not a single line break to piss off the coach. Stuck to the game plan like **** to a fur blanket he did. Lambie might as well develop a skill tugging splinters from him bum.
8 Sep 2012, 16:14 pm
@NZINCHINA-773: Your abacus cheats, too. 8)
8 Sep 2012, 16:15 pm
@Sheriff-772: interesting. I can get your drift. Its pretty much how this country’s run today. Tow the ‘party’ line or else.
8 Sep 2012, 16:19 pm
@TASSIES-775:
Thats 5 in a row against Australia boet, you have a right to be pissed off.
We just have to take emotion out the equation and look at the reality of the situation:
(1).Bissy’s not playing
(2).JPP’s not playing
(3).Without Morne we will be a stronger force on attacked. We don’t even need him kicking for poles.
8 Sep 2012, 16:19 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-770: meyer has a divine belief that his game plan is right to the extent to which he believes he can impose his game plan on other teams. He doesn’t realise that test rugby is about new ideas every week, you have to be cerebrally flexible, and have a support team that challenges the head coach ala henry, wayne smith, steve hansen, mike cron, mick byrne. Without a strong support infrastructure you become isolated, frustrated, and fired.
8 Sep 2012, 16:21 pm
Nils old Bakkies is losing his marbles
8 Sep 2012, 16:22 pm
@Nils-776: we’re quite aware of that Nils. I think they make up for their player resource limitations with a large injection of skill and creativity. something which SA rugby lacks comparatively speaking. I put it down to culture and sub-standard coaching. We are a PHYSICAL bunch. That is the priority. We play Olivia Newton John in the changerooms to reinforce that theme. The fact that she hails from enemy territory is countered by the effective influence. Gotta get PHYSICAL.
8 Sep 2012, 16:24 pm
1 Beast cant scrum!
2 Tiger Pienaar is the worst scrum halve in Springbok rugby history
3 Teddy Dupp and Juandre Kruger to soft for international rugby
4 Morne has lost all his magic
5 Vermeulen average super rugby player but useless international player
6 Mvovo must go and play Vodacom cup
7 Donkey Devilliers way past retirement
8 Francois Steyn a fullback
9 Coetzee and Alberts to dumb for international rugby
10 We have serious problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 Sep 2012, 16:27 pm
@mpundulu-781: thats exactly what worries me about this guy.
8 Sep 2012, 16:27 pm
@TASSIES-783:
And the other trait is heavy relying on kickers to ship 3-pointers and when refs doesn’t provide enough penalties (thus being cheats) then “Houston, we have problems”.
8 Sep 2012, 16:28 pm
@phil72-784: bit harsh fella.
8 Sep 2012, 16:29 pm
@Nils-786:
8 Sep 2012, 16:33 pm
This is a kak topic which I always hate to bring up but…
How many farken forward passes did the Wallabies get away with…
And alot in their own 22…..
Is it just me………
8 Sep 2012, 16:33 pm
How you going to interlink forwards with backs if not 1 of the loosies can pass a ball…. last time a saw Vermeulen, Alberts or coetzee pass a ball was early season super 15 rugby!
8 Sep 2012, 16:34 pm
@Jeraldjay-789:
At least the forwards can pass a ball?
8 Sep 2012, 16:35 pm
@Nils-786: is this not long past your bedtime? My, what sacrifices you make on our behalf.
8 Sep 2012, 16:36 pm
@Jeraldjay-789: I wouldn’t even mention it. Happened in the AB/Arg game too. One was about a meter and a half forward, assisted slightly by the howling gale in Wellington, but forward nevertheless.
8 Sep 2012, 16:37 pm
Next week it’s Dunedin, the boks will be up against an AB outfit that will not be happy with their performance against the argies, they’ll want to exact that with the boks. I think that the AB quick ball and perpectual motion game plan will have the boks defense in 6′s and 7′s, and the All Black defense will be effective against a blunt attack.
8 Sep 2012, 16:38 pm
@TASSIES-792: Excuse me? Long past bedtime at 5 P.M.?
Mate, I might be old but not old enough.
8 Sep 2012, 16:39 pm
okay girls I’m outta here. Got a braai to lite and a sauvignon to sip away my depression. Poms getting smashed so cheer is improving. Cheers guys.
8 Sep 2012, 16:40 pm
@Nils-795: sorry. Shows what happens when you assume. Figured you were in Oz for some strange reason.
8 Sep 2012, 16:41 pm
@Jeraldjay-789: Saffas have to convince themselves to move away from blaming the ref, it provides for a defensive veil that covers the fundamental issues in consideration of the game plan, player and coaching personnel.
8 Sep 2012, 16:42 pm
@TASSIES-797: No, I am in Europe. Just having more interest in SH rugby at the moment until AI start.
8 Sep 2012, 16:43 pm
@NZINCHINA-766:
won 3 lost 1
@youknowwho-767:
that’s not what i said.
he was particulary poor and its technique (mindset) which can be fixed.
8 Sep 2012, 16:44 pm
@TASSIES-793:
Tassies, what do you think the solution should be.
Get rid of HM and replace him with Mallet then all our problems will be solved. Based on the post above the players and management cannot express themselves because they have a “dom astrant” coach in HM.
They have another thing coming if Mallet is at the helm.
8 Sep 2012, 16:44 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-800: And 2 draws.
For me that is 50% win ratio, isn’t it?
8 Sep 2012, 16:46 pm
@NZINCHINA-773:
@Nils-778:
huh?
its a win/loss ratio you dimwits.
draws do not get factored in but if you really wanted we could, that would only push it up.
so now then, what is meyer’s loss ratio ‘out of 6′… my point exactly…
8 Sep 2012, 16:48 pm
@mpundulu-798:
I know that.
But how long are we going to turn a blind eye to daylight robbery.
8 Sep 2012, 16:49 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-803: 3 wins from 6 games is 50% win ratio, doos.
8 Sep 2012, 16:50 pm
oh Bakkies take some time out mate this isnt doing you any good
8 Sep 2012, 16:54 pm
Lets clarify this for all…….. Played 6 (100%) won 3(50%) Lost 1 (16.7%) Draws 2 (33.3%). But in rugby terms he has a win loss ratio of 3 -1 which will give him a 75% record…………………………………………………
8 Sep 2012, 16:57 pm
fark me he’s a brilliant coach then
8 Sep 2012, 16:57 pm
“Insanity is trying the same thing repeatedly, each time expecting a different outcome”
Albert Einstein
8 Sep 2012, 16:58 pm
Arme ou Springbokke. Wat a groot, nare “mislukking” is hulle nou nie?
Op een of ander tyd in die jaar 2009 was hulle mos nommer een, maar nou het hulle “stelselmatig agteruitgegaan” en staan reeds op nommer drie en dit lyk of hulle nog verder daal.
Sal hulle nie laaste in hierdie eerste Rugby Kampionskap eindig nie?
‘God bless HM’
8 Sep 2012, 17:00 pm
@phil72-807: win-loss rato – yes, however 75% look misleading when we all know oke have won just half of his Tests.
8 Sep 2012, 17:01 pm
@Nils-805:
whats his loss ratio, doos ?
8 Sep 2012, 17:02 pm
i have betting things to do
the bulls are playing
later chops
8 Sep 2012, 17:02 pm
Meyers aim should be to draw next weekend his won/loss will be in the 90′s.
8 Sep 2012, 17:03 pm
Boks need to appoint a new coach, end this lack of progress early otherwise it’s going to stretch into years. Maybe Heyneke will resign, he can’t do what he wants to with this team.
8 Sep 2012, 17:03 pm
no you don’t
8 Sep 2012, 17:04 pm
@phil72-807:
these two idiot dooses have other ideas
fark, can dumb and dumber get any more precious
8 Sep 2012, 17:04 pm
75% se gat!
8 Sep 2012, 17:04 pm
@NZINCHINA-808:
@Nils-811:
now say: ‘ i am a doos and made a mistake’….
chops
8 Sep 2012, 17:06 pm
ok Meyer is a brilliant coach
8 Sep 2012, 17:08 pm
But what about this? Australia have won their last five matches against South Africa and have won seven of the last eight matches against the Springboks. So is it all HM’s fault?
8 Sep 2012, 17:08 pm
@Transformation-818:
dont be and idiot, transie
8 Sep 2012, 17:09 pm
ok
bulls time
8 Sep 2012, 17:10 pm
Do you really need to remind everyone.
8 Sep 2012, 17:14 pm
fokkoff
dom doos
jy’t jouself maar stupid laat lyk ne
mr 50%
8 Sep 2012, 17:30 pm
only 2 positional changes in this game and Meyer would have won this, or better yet maybe 3 or 4
Hougaard at 9 and Goosen at 10 and Boks would have won this game
Of course another hooker, tight head and No. 5 lock and No.6 and full back would make a huge difference too, but carrying all that unwanted dross only Hougaard in for Pienaar and Goosen in for Steyn and Lambie on for Kirchner would have ENSURED that Boks won this game.
Heyneke Meyer got absolutely zero idea and its seriously starting to show … Bad!!
8 Sep 2012, 17:42 pm
Lambie / W. Le Roux / A. Coetsee
Habana / JPP / JdV
JdJ / Serfontein
F.Steyn / JdJ
Mvovo / A. Coetsee / Habana
Goosen / W. Le Roux
Hougaard / Pretorius / Van Zyl
M.Coetsee / D. Vermeulen
Alberts / Elstadt
Brussow / Louw / D. Fourie
Etsebeth / Kruger
Elstadt / Alberts
Cilliers / Oosthuizen / Nel
D. Fourie / Liebenberg
Steenkamp / Beast / Greyling
8 Sep 2012, 18:15 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-812: who cares, soon it will reach 50%.
Doos.
8 Sep 2012, 18:39 pm
@Nils-828:
yes, it probably will…. but then it will steadly get better and better
and then you wont be so funny mr funny guy
e tu doos
8 Sep 2012, 18:44 pm
Ehe WTF happened – I was sipping tea ? Did we win?
8 Sep 2012, 18:47 pm
Ja Bokke bok bok – een duisend punte?
Wattehel – 30 mins blown hard tgen blown off – they fkn ****.
8 Sep 2012, 19:06 pm
@Horsepower Jones-809:
The original by Einstein was: “It is insane to repeat the same experiment time and again and to expect a different result”
It was said while at Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Berlin circa 1900.
Emphasis’ on ‘experiment’ and ‘result’
HM does not experiment ’cause he seemed too clueless and stubborn to ‘experiment’, he is simply in a state of panic
HM was Nick Mallett’s forwards coach, he knew then well enough that possession is at premium, that neither Henry Honibal nor Joost were allowed to kick away, and there is no reason for M Styen to do so now.
Simple
8 Sep 2012, 19:11 pm
Fk Einstein and fk meyer – get someone else in NOW
8 Sep 2012, 19:37 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-829: Why should I be funny at any time?
Look, I do believe Boks will get better – not sure they will be worldbeaters with Heineken “How many Bulls caps do you have” Mayer in charge. No, frankly, I do not believe that at all.
Still Boks should be in the world top 10 even with hyppo in charge.
8 Sep 2012, 19:50 pm
Nils mate with all respect stfu gdam kiwi pidgeon
8 Sep 2012, 20:52 pm
@cab-835: Cab with all respect to you – **** you, too.
9 Sep 2012, 13:22 pm
@fritz1, are you for real? Two changes would suddenly have SA scrumming better? Stop gwanty10 type turboweverse against the Oz scrum wtf – and JS wasn’t even there – who are you going to blame now? Being able to win all their lineouts suddenly? Able to suddenly defend in an organised way, support the man with the ball and protect the ball at the rucks?
I’ll grant you I nearly turned off when that silly Pienaar does these **** wafting actions behind his back that telegraph to the Ozzies that players are going to leave the maul so they simply shove SA off the ball; penalty, win lineout, another penalty – 3 points. I would have subbed Pienaar right then (he, he). Unless of course that is how Heineken coached him, which is very likely considering the coach and his *** istants are Blou Bulle boneheads.
I’m not surprised by the result. The Boks have looked disorganised for a national team from the start. Look at the S15, two SA teams (excluding the Bulls) basically rip apart all the Oz teams then our national squad loses in a hopeless manner. Something rotten in the state of Denmark.
Heineken wanted Matfield and du Preez because these guys hardly needed coaching. Now that he has to coach new players at the highest level his lack of ability is being exposed. Let’s see if he can adapt and learn.
9 Sep 2012, 20:17 pm
@cab-833: Australia have won their last five matches against South Africa and have won seven of the last eight matches against the Springboks, so who do you suggest?
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