Toulon refuse to release Botha
11 Sep 2012
Toulon are adamant that Bakkies Botha will play for the French club this weekend and not for the Springboks.
With a suspension to Eben Etzebeth looming, Botha was placed on standby by Bok coach Heyneke Meyer on Monday. It was hoped that Botha would join the Boks in New Zealand in the event that Etzebeth was banned for a headbutt on Nathan Sharpe.
Etzebeth has since been banned for two weeks, but the Boks will need to replace the Stormers lock with somebody other than Botha.
Botha’s club, Toulon, has decided to block the big lock’s return to international rugby. Toulon coach Bernard Laporte was quoted in French newspaper L’Equipe saying Botha would play for the club against Montpellier this Friday.
The Boks will have to make do without Botha’s services, and it now seems likely that Flip van der Merwe will join his Bulls team-mate Juandre Kruger in the second row.
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12 Sep 2012, 10:38 am
It really is a shame Old Bakkies could not make it to Dunedin, the spiritual home of the Cowan Clan.
I’m sure the locals would have given him a warm Christian reception at Forsyth Barr Stadium.
12 Sep 2012, 10:39 am
@Atreides-243:
lol
I had it a bit higher. You must of missed a couple of serves.
12 Sep 2012, 10:40 am
@katman-247: you came at me with your silly childish rant, so expect it back tough guy..
at least youll be able to spend more time taking the wife shopping on weekends, now your team is not playing super rugby next year..
I do laugh that they are trying to execute Mitchell for it, wasnt it bad enough that he was stabbed when he was in your country?
12 Sep 2012, 10:42 am
@cab-241: I can’t see Read being exposed (or did yo mean they would read Savea?) but as you say, this is an inexperienced side, similar to the one from 2009 and I don’t want to remember that year.
The Boks will always pick themselves up against NZ and no matter how much Cruden has matured in the last two years, a Carter-less NZ always looks a little off. At home, i still think we’ll take it but it won’t be as easier as some are claiming. Fortunately the argentina game was a wake up call
12 Sep 2012, 10:45 am
Gdam the kiwis are funny buggers – if only we could learn to cheat like that we’d be unbeatable – saru should pay fitzy and cheetah mccaw to setup an academy in Sa – be worth ten times more than Murray mex’s academy.
Call it: How to Cheat and Still Look Saintly.
The only ref that was not flumoxed was barnesey and look what happened to the poor young man’s career once the Kiwi faithful were done..
12 Sep 2012, 10:45 am
@Hurricane-252: I didn’t count duplication of insults…would then be roughly 147 times higher
lol
12 Sep 2012, 10:46 am
@cab-241:
Read exposed.
What a laugh.
He is the form All Black of the last 2 years.
Savea is young. So maybe he could be vulnerable.
12 Sep 2012, 10:47 am
Gonzo – very true as is the comment on a carter-less AB side, but I also think read is the poorest no 8 nz have had in many a year
12 Sep 2012, 10:51 am
@cab-255:
Our pleasure Cab.
12 Sep 2012, 10:51 am
@poppa69-253: I didn’t come with anything, you smelly wolmossel. You’ve been stinking up every single thread here with one disrespectful, nationalist, xenophobic post after another after another etc etc… Surely it’s not unreasonable that someone’s going to point this out to you somewhere along the way? Or do you think you have some kind of indigenous leeway on this? Is there a cultural carte blanche on being a nationalist prick if you’re from some downtrodden minority community?
12 Sep 2012, 10:52 am
@cab-255:
Barnsey was a disgrace.
At least Brycie readily admits he had a bad day at the Office.
Barnses still thinks he had a good game. He will rot in hell for sure.
12 Sep 2012, 10:52 am
@Hurricane-246:
show me the source of your informtion and i will verify for myself.
you may be right but i would like to verify.
i hope you’re not using wiki?
12 Sep 2012, 10:54 am
@cab-255: I seem to remember SA supporters being up in arms about Barnsey when he reffed them in Brisbane? before that he was a god because he did a Lawrence on the ABs?
strange but not unusual to see the one eyedness of SA fans such as yourself Cab..
12 Sep 2012, 10:55 am
@cab-258: You being serious about Read? I personally think he is the complete international 8. Parisse on form ticks all the boxes, and I think the Welsh kid, Faletau is going to become one of the finest international 8′s.
But Read is certainly right up there, IMHO more valuable to the AB’s and Crusaders than Richie M.
I would rather play against a team without him, than a team with him in it. (Like Richie, if he were a Saffa, we would be heralding him).
Just my thoughts.
12 Sep 2012, 10:56 am
261 easy caner – I see the name that shall not be mentioned within your household still invokes hostility – live and let live.
12 Sep 2012, 10:58 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-264: @cab-265:
Read is likely the next AB Capt. (I think).
12 Sep 2012, 11:00 am
@cane-261: “Rot in hell”*
*retire in Rotorua
12 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
@katman-260: when one of your brethren continually labels all kiwis cheating filthy scum, i will again return likewise..
whats the matter dof neanderthal, is the bullies getting some of their own medicine back?
12 Sep 2012, 11:08 am
@poppa69-268: That’s are, you fcken halfwit. Bullies are.
12 Sep 2012, 11:11 am
@katman-269: correcting English on a blog oh impotent one?
how very you..
12 Sep 2012, 11:11 am
@katman-267:
Where’s he now
Was gonna ask him about a doccie I was watching on NZ
They have “Maori guards” patrolling the streets of Auckland in the lime green safety jackets.
Now. Do they guard the Maori, or are they wearing these jackets because they are Maori.
12 Sep 2012, 11:13 am
@poppa69-268:
you people are filth, poppa
maybe there was a time when maori’s had more honour and honesty in their culture but you’ve been tainted beyond hope since the time of the pakeha subjugation of your people.
bad habits and you’ve picked them up.
you need to take a look at yourselves and your conduct.
12 Sep 2012, 11:14 am
@poppa69-270: It’s really not that hard. Just make an effort to get it right. What’s your first language, by the way?
12 Sep 2012, 11:14 am
@Dawn-271: they do a similar job to what armoured vehicles do in SA, kill visiting rugby players
12 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
and i dont mean just maori / pi’s mix
i mean all of you nz’s
12 Sep 2012, 11:15 am
@Dawn-271: No use asking him – wrong Maori. Hurricane is the one with the TV’s.
12 Sep 2012, 11:16 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-272: and you people are rapists and murderers..
this is fun isnt it Bakkies?
12 Sep 2012, 11:17 am
@poppa69-274:
I have to admit
Our coloureds are better looking than your coloureds
12 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
@poppa69-277:
We are all rapists and murderers?
News to me
12 Sep 2012, 11:18 am
@Dawn-271:
They MAY BE Maori Wardens Dawn. (But not sure.)
They assist Police with troublesome youth etc.
12 Sep 2012, 11:20 am
@cane-280:
So a white person can also be a Maori warden?
12 Sep 2012, 11:21 am
@poppa69-277:
sort your rugby out
its disgusting
12 Sep 2012, 11:23 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-282: no , you sort your rugby out, its fcken pathetic..
12 wins in 20 years Bakkies, 12 in 20 years
hahahahaha
its because you guys are too dumb, thats the reason..
12 Sep 2012, 11:23 am
@cane-266: Almost certainly.
Ok to sum it all up. NZ sucks and SA sucks. Australia and her people are the bizness then?
12 Sep 2012, 11:24 am
@Dawn-281:
Probably. But he or she would need to be fluent in their laugauge and well versed in their culture.
I doubt any exist just the same.
12 Sep 2012, 11:25 am
@Dawn-281:
yes probably, but less likely. its a two birds with one stone program in that it employs maoris from the largely unemplyed and poverty stricken maori community and at the same time they aid in keeping the, mostly maori, troublesome youths out of trouble.
unemployment, poverty and dissaffected youth in a phenomenen the world over though.
12 Sep 2012, 11:26 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-284:
That about does it Doggie.
We can all go home now.
12 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
@Dawn-281:
They may have plain old Security Guards employed by the city.
12 Sep 2012, 11:29 am
@poppa69-283:
i am not happy that the boks do so badly over the last 20 years popps. i sincerely want us to do better and hope we will.
but i do feel good about the way in which we appproach it honestly in our endevours to win. hard but honest.
you on the other hand i pity.
what a disgusting way to claim empty victories.
i would never accept that at the boks.
12 Sep 2012, 11:30 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-289: like the honesty of a gold watch? that type of honesty you mean, yeah right Bakkies, one only need look at the complicity in your 95 win to see this honesty, and no, Im not talking about Susie
12 Sep 2012, 11:33 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-289: honest as in your national coach accusing the IRB and NZ because we held a WC the following year? that type of honesty?
or the honesty that if they wanted to gouge lions theyd go into the bush and do it? that type of thing?
ok then, lmfao..
12 Sep 2012, 11:37 am
@poppa69-290:
show me where the rules say you cannot give a gift to a ref post competition?
besides, the ref himself is on record as stating he was offended and put off by the gesture and if i recall he even refused the acceptance of it, no?
now show me complicity in this?
not quite like a new zealand ref of the year is it?
what do you think lawrence recieved for services rendered? just out of interest? its done and dusted so lets have it out. wont change anything.
12 Sep 2012, 11:41 am
@poppa69-291:
he spoke honestly about blatant cheating and the filthy setup of sa, whats wrong in that?
he honestly stated that the player did not gouge and used a left field analogy/example as explanation, where do you have a problem?
12 Sep 2012, 11:42 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-292: ok, so it doesnt look at all dodgy if you offer a ref a gold watch?
are you serious? lmfao, I guess it shows how deluded you are mate..
why did the ref say he was offended by the offer? because of the implication behind it,. but I guess kickbacks and the like are all the norm in “honest” SA?
as for Lawrence, he was poor and admitted as such… I dont know of any payoff he got fr4om NZ material wise, perhaps you can enlighten me?
12 Sep 2012, 11:43 am
@poppa69-291:
clean you rugby up, poppa
you people are filthy scum and its permeating into the rest of your society / behaviour.
you could be so much more than this.
bring back the ab’s everyone the world over loved and feared.
12 Sep 2012, 11:44 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-293: please, you think Burger didnt gouge?
says it all, and shows you up as the poor loser you are..
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2009/06/30/1225743/706377-schalk-burger-gouges-lions-039-winger-luke-fitzgerald.jpg
this shows it clearly..
12 Sep 2012, 11:47 am
@cab-258: Better than Rodney but i think it will be a long time before we see a Zinzan type player in any world team !
12 Sep 2012, 11:48 am
If they wanted to gouge lions they’d go into the bush – now that’s the sort of character we are missing from the post-match interviews.
Poppa / Sharks rugby pedigree
perisee is class, he’s a lamborghini compared to the vauxhall that is read – I dunno why tge ABs rate him so highly – zinzan, crib – now those were no8s. I think vermeulen is alot better than read.
12 Sep 2012, 11:50 am
I really think it is about time both nations stop the name calling and concentrate on the rugby .. for F*U*C*K s sake !
12 Sep 2012, 11:50 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-295:
*** me seriously you have issues.
We honestly dont give a cr@p what you think of us. You are not the speaker of the world.
You point of views are really just that….and no facts at all.
You are known as a sore loser. Lucky most the poepleon here see this and have bought this up to you, but you carry on.
Clean up your own act and get a bit of respect here in keo.
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