1-greyling(bulls)
2-ralepelle(bulls)
3-oosthuizen(cheetahs)
4-etzebeth(stormers)
5-kruger(bulls)
6-brussow(cheetahs)
7-alberts(sharks)
8-vermeulen(stormers)
9-hougaard(bulls)
10-goosen(cheetahs)
11-habana(stormers)
12-steyn(sharks)
13-mapoe(lions)
14-basson(bulls)
15-lambie(sharks)

16-strauss(cheetahs)
17-cilliers(lions)
18-bekker(stormers)
19-coetzee(sharks)
20-pienaar(not from a sa club-so wrong imo)
21-lambie(sharks)
22-de jong(stormers)

I believe mapoe is the form 13 imo… He has speed size strength and skills and he is alerted for defense. This can be the best team ever in 12 months time… The best

If you’re going to annoy us with your “expert” take, at least be smart enough to know that neither Mujati nor Gurthro are available at this time.

Mujati can’t play for the Boks because he is a Zimbabwean. He also doesn’t want to play for the Boks, even if he were available.

Gurthro is in pre-season and probably won’t be released by his club.

nice.

Correct.

And now that our loose head stocks don’t look so flash either rather keep him there.

A good leader knows he/she does not know all – especially in the fields outside of their endeavour – thus they surround themselves with/ appoint the best in their particular positions/ vocations…

So – yes – I would immediately fire Meyer and his bunch – who are 4 years too late/ outdated – and appoint Dawie Theron and Dr. Brendan Venter and Carel du Plessis as head coach and assistant coaches.. Jacques Nienaber as Defence guru, and Professor Tim Noakes in a conditioning advisory capacity.. The rest of the team – I would leave up to Theron to choose..

Simple.

okay nick…you know best
you know everything.

might I suggest you apply for the position of bok coach when next it becomes availible.

If your front-row is being mauled – your pack goes backwards – and it’s effectiveness, as a unit, is largely nullified. Again – this is basic rugby common-sense.

By the way – it’s called the June Test window – European clubs HAVE TO release their Southern Hemisphere players in this period, if called upon – it’s an IRB ruling. Ditto in November – it’s called the November Test window…

And – yes – a front-row of Gurthro, Adriaan, and WP Nel or Heinke – with the rest of our pack – WITH Heinrich Brussow of course – WOULD have beaten that England team – yes.

As for Morne Steyn – hahahahaha – are you kidding?? He’s been useless all season long. He’s played maybe 3 good games for the Bulls all year – so WTF warranted his selection in the first place – above, say, a Pat Lambie (while Johan Goosen was injured)… Even Peter Grant – at 94% kicking success rate in Super Rugby – would have been a MUCH better bet than the way-past-his-best Morne Steyn…

Francois Hougaard – at best – an impact player off the bench… Sarel Pretorius should be in the Bok squad with Ruan Pienaar..

of course, the bulls brain.
that must be it.

nothing to do with guthro still being in pre-season fitness regime and probably as unreleasable as bakkies is, strauss being uncapped with wp nel having only 1 or 2 caps anyway as well as also being in pre-season as well? throw in a completely new lock combo and 1 uncapped flank with alberts getting his first start from kickoff.
Awesome stuff!

And then of course, every test is there to be won attitude and we are championing a frontrow combo that has never played together, hasn’t even had a chance to properly train together but they would definately without a doubt have been good enough to best a very good england scrummaging unit?

and why is it the sharkies need extra rest. Beest and Bismark were both out of the sharks side with injury breaks during the supercomp.

Why not the same for morne steyn….3.5 years of solid rugby with out so much as an injury break? Or hougaard, who has played every supergame for 3 seasons now and involved with the boks in some capacity every game,etc,etc.

what is so frikken special about the sharks by the way?

It’s about planning a 10-month rugby season in advance – and utilising ALL Springbok playing resources available at any given time… Ie – USE the Boks playing in Europe in the June and November Test windows… Their clubs have to release them in these periods – so USE where needed – where players playing in Super Rugby need to be rested… EG – the Sharks front-row…

While this is simple rugby common-sense to folks like you and I (and no doubt many other rugby fans and scribes) – it is rocket-science in Egyptian Hieroglyphics to incompetent bumble-bees like Heyneke Meyer and his legion of Bulls fans…

Why the heck did Meyer not rest all the Shark players that got selected for Boks after we teturned from NZ? Sharks players were moeg then already. That travel was a monster.

Meyer should have rested all the SharkBoks for a week after returning then bring them into the squad for training the following week. We had two weeks then before Arg. Instead the Shark players returned on the Sunday night and had to be training with the Bok Squad on the Tuesday in Cape Town. That was NOT smart from Meyer to make them train then. REST would have been far beneficial to the players at the time. If they had a weeks rest after that huge travel I bet we would have seen the players playing a whole lot better. They are exhausted I feel. Have not had a proper rest since they played the Bulls.

He was brilliant when he came on in the England/Bok test.

Did you see what happened on Sat?? A Springbok pack in REVERSE vs an Aussie pack – a disgrace!! Vs a French, NZ, or English pack (in the past) – that has happened before – but vs Australia – a disgrace!! WELL DONE Heyneke Meyer!!! By NOT resting the Sharks front-row – we now have a FATIGUED Beast and Jannie.. Anyone with a smidgen of rugby nous – would’ve seen this coming if the coach plays them in all 3 Tests vs England… DUHH-UHHH – not rocket science!

Maybe – I/we can concede a point – for the sake of very little time to prepare for the 1st Test – then fine – let the Sharks front-row play the 1st Test vs England – and the 1st Test ONLY – then he could’ve played the above front-row I suggested for the 2nd and 3rd Tests – still giving a crucial mid-season rest to the Sharks front 3…

@ Stand-Off – no Bok combination should lose to that England team. A front-row of Gurthro, Adriaan, and WP Nel or Heinke vd Merwe would’ve pulverised that English front-row.. Then – he should also have got either Bakkies or Danie Rossouw back for those Tests – experienced ‘irons’ in the pack – around which an Eben Etzebeth and a Juandre Kruger would learn and flourish…

And – of course – only brain-**** Meyer thinks that Jacques Potgieter (straight back from injury) would be better than a fully-fit (at the time) Heinrich Brussow… Stupid!!

Our break-down is still a problem – and STILL the tosser ignores Heinrich Brussow.. !!