Meyer admits Morne mistake
16 Sep 2012
Heyneke Meyer says he may have erred in keeping Morne Steyn on the field against the All Blacks in Dunedin.
Steyn, whose missed penalty kicks cost the Springboks wins against England in PE and Argentina in Mendoza, had a poor first half with the boot at the Otago Stadium and many expected him to be replaced by Johan Goosen at half-time. Meyer, though, kept faith in his No 10 and it proved costly as by the time he was subbed in the 59th minute he had been successful with just one attempt out of five.
‘Sitting here afterwards it is easy to make calls but it is a life and death situation for me and maybe I made the wrong call but Morne usually comes back and kicks well,’ Meyer told a news conference after the match. ‘Frans Steyn is a great goal-kicker and Ruan Pienaar can kick as well. You don’t just take a guy off for his goal-kicking.
‘I’ve always said that I am going to bring Johan Goosen through and give him game time. But Johan had struggled with his goal-kicking in training during the week and he is still only 20-years-old and he hasn’t played for almost three months. I thought he did superbly for the 25 minutes he was on the field.
‘But we could have changed the goal-kicker. We talked about it at half-time. I thought Morne would find his rhythm.’
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16 Sep 2012, 19:50 pm
@Heavens Game-196:
yes RM played very well and captained very well
He lead by example
But he does cheat sometimes too
16 Sep 2012, 19:52 pm
@CoachPete-201:
yep its our own fault, if we cant learn to cheat like the best of them, brussow is a far more talented fetcher, but he still has much crookery to learn from the greatest mccheat that ever lived..
16 Sep 2012, 19:53 pm
@Transformation-200: Sharks have a Sharks schooled coach who represented and lived, breathed, bled Sharks on field… He also was 7s Bok…
Now what the fck are you on about you snivelling devious, little Kiwi sycophant shitstirrer…?
16 Sep 2012, 19:54 pm
@CoachPete-201: He does cheat, but fark me he is a leader, something JdV IS NOT…
16 Sep 2012, 19:57 pm
@cab-202:
Yeah we have play the same way Get away with what we can (not in full view of ref and assistant ref)
We need to be smart
16 Sep 2012, 19:58 pm
@Heavens Game-204:
Who else ?
Move him closer to 10 and play him at 12
16 Sep 2012, 19:59 pm
@CoachPete-205:
good thinking Pete – i fear we may be too ‘honest’ tho. Poppa?
and they label poor johan roux for having a wee nibble on fitzy’s ear.
16 Sep 2012, 19:59 pm
@Heavens Game-204: yeah keegan can learn heaps from richie ito leadership…
16 Sep 2012, 19:59 pm
What ever happened to the good old fashion side step in Bok rugby…….
16 Sep 2012, 20:01 pm
@Jeraldjay-209:
vokmaarvoort? we still got it, unfortunately only alberts can carry it out.
16 Sep 2012, 20:02 pm
@Transformation-208:
Yeah thats and option but HM does not care for Daniels
Why ?
well because he is fast, can run with the backs, can off load ,
Covers well, defends well is a option in the lineout both winning and stealing ball, and has true rugby skills
Too much like a kiwi maybe, or too small ?
16 Sep 2012, 20:03 pm
@CoachPete-206: Get one of the forwards… Get a brand new Captain… JdV is no better 12 than Frans Steyn… Mad to even think so… and as a 13 on merit he is probably 6th in line after Ebersohn, De Jong, Jordaan, Whitehead, Mapoe in no particular order…
16 Sep 2012, 20:03 pm
@Jeraldjay-209:
Danie Gerber kept the secret
16 Sep 2012, 20:04 pm
@cab-207: what do the call it? ‘gamesmanship’
between richie & keiran read they’ve got the formula down pat…
that nathan sharpe is not far behind too…last week he was having a jol spoiling & making a nuisance of himself even jumping out of lineout lines to block jannie from lifting…
16 Sep 2012, 20:05 pm
@Heavens Game-212:
Well what HM did was select the captain before the selected the team
ABs have been lucky to have RM a fantastic player and a great captain, which has been a huge part of their success
16 Sep 2012, 20:06 pm
@Transformation-214:
too right, you named the big three mccrooks there, sharpe another master as was gregan.
but fitzy was the quintessential original, while McCheater has taken it to a different level – gdam he’s good (at cheating).
16 Sep 2012, 20:07 pm
@cab-210:
Cab in the past we had massive stapkar forwards but had sensational back sthat could run circles around any team.
Carel Dup, Danie Gerber, Dewet Ras…….
16 Sep 2012, 20:07 pm
@Transformation-208:
Maybe he’s to fast to the breakdown and will show up the rest of the bok forwards too often
16 Sep 2012, 20:08 pm
@Jeraldjay-209: goosen stepped just last week, hougaard is got a vicious one, de jongh can rip too…the other donkeys like lambie can’t jol…
jordaan has a pretty mean one too yho!
16 Sep 2012, 20:08 pm
@Transformation-208:
You poor dumbfuck Sharksworld “expert”… Keep taking potshots at all Sharkies on your shitstirring list…
Richie got taught well by his mate Barney… None in the same class internationally currently other than probably Dusautoir… Keegan only had one season vs how many years for McCaw? Nevertheless he led well yesterday in the rain and despite the other team going benzene moggy in “intimidation” stupidity, eh? Add the fact that he has been treated disgracefully by the Bok coach, and you realise he has character in bucketloads to perform the way he does week in and week out…
16 Sep 2012, 20:09 pm
@CoachPete-213: Lol.
16 Sep 2012, 20:09 pm
@Transformation-219:
Jordan has pace too
16 Sep 2012, 20:11 pm
@Heavens Game-220:
So we agree on Daniels i see
16 Sep 2012, 20:12 pm
@Transformation-219:
Transie you left out your main man Frans.
Saw a hint of a side step yesterday.
16 Sep 2012, 20:12 pm
@178.fitz1ella: LMFAO when an oak like you goes on such an uneducated Rampage its very difficult to take your seriously.
Jake the fake? is this the same oak who was so massivly succesful? won us the tri nations, the world cup? had a better winning record against NZ then any other SA coach? is that the same guy?
Seems we all flipping lucky you have no say in the actual Springbok makeup lol.
Ps you seem way to tense hey.. go knock one out in the loo if you aint getting it at home.
16 Sep 2012, 20:13 pm
@Jeraldjay-224:
The difference is Danie Gerber sidestepped at speed
Steyn does not
16 Sep 2012, 20:14 pm
@CoachPete-223: Definitely, if you agree that he is a tearaway flanker in the mould of Rob Louw, but more skilfull, more flair and heaps more ballas than the entire Bok pack…
Truly the Christian Cullen of Loosies
16 Sep 2012, 20:14 pm
@Heavens Game-220: you are getting to easy to reel in…
16 Sep 2012, 20:14 pm
@Jeraldjay-217:
yeah very true, HO de villiers, germishuys, gysie
even some playmakers at 10, rosenberg, cowley was good but no bok, apparetly there was another one and a few centers, whip? michael du plessis was the most creative centre i seen for boks, gerber the most penetrative.
16 Sep 2012, 20:16 pm
@wls1-225:
You must be new
You have not got the Skoppie ranting /rampage spell checker yet
When you do, a lot does make sense
16 Sep 2012, 20:17 pm
@Jeraldjay-224: hayi hayi hayi francois steyn? he is too dikgat & is a crashball merchant these days worse than jdv…
did u see him line up cruden only to be scragged & turned over?
he is playing like a robot nowadays…i didn’t se no step from him.
16 Sep 2012, 20:17 pm
@Transformation-228: Reel in? Farken its what you truly believe… That is the actual problem…
Farken devious little schmuck and then you act all righteous, judgemental and innocent.
16 Sep 2012, 20:18 pm
@cab-229:
remember HO’s try where he was getting ready to kick at goal but never told the ref, then tapped it and scored in the corner?
16 Sep 2012, 20:19 pm
Frans Steyn stepped his way up the touchline, he can still do it but it’s a lot slower than it was in 2007
16 Sep 2012, 20:19 pm
I’m out.
Looking forward to Keo’s Business Day article tomorrow with the headline….
“Meyer will make this generation the best”…….
16 Sep 2012, 20:20 pm
@CoachPete-233:
a little before my time, but the family all thought he was uitmintende uitstekende and all that.
bok backline of early 80s best thats ever been, tho maybe some ou balie remembers from way before that..
16 Sep 2012, 20:22 pm
De Jong has got a step second to no-one in world rugby, he’s scored tries which have left not only the ozzie S15 sides, but his own teammates heading torwards the corner flag when he’s stepped off one foot and gone the entire opposite way.
16 Sep 2012, 20:27 pm
@Big Hit-234: Nothing wrong with Frans Steyn as his two games playing for the Sharks in S15 demonstrated when his 10 actually kept the opposition guessing, took the ball up to the advantage line and actually understood his lines of running…
Not a 10 who farken takes the ball about 15m metres behind and telegraphs like a siren exactly what he is going to do and when to the opposition…
The most ridiculous move I ever saw at Test level was yesterday when M Steyn telegraphed a ball to F Steyn, giving him the ball about 5m behind him, and yet about 10m before the advantage line still – no deception, no angled running or laterals from M Steyn to possibly move the opposition 10/12 enabling a sudden straighten, change of direction… Nothing… And expecting Frans Steyn just to run straight into the opposition…
Ridiculous.
16 Sep 2012, 20:27 pm
@CoachPete-223:
I would accommodate Daniel in the line up even if it means moving Albert to lock.
The forwards were rudderless despite dominating the ABs physically,
Daniel had the quick brain and the leadership.
16 Sep 2012, 20:30 pm
@cab-237: Jordaan has a better step… off both feet… I reckon Mapoe too…
Naah, JdJ has been coached out of his natural good play by Stormers and their dumbfuck, no try rugby style. All in the name of accommodating JdV when he returned tail between legs from Munster…
16 Sep 2012, 20:32 pm
@Hondo-239:
I agree 100% and about Alberts too
We have Vermeulen now , and coetzee and then flow and brussow and kolisi and of course Daniels there
We can change albert to 7 if we need to in the game since we have
Bekker and Kruger Estebeth and Flip (played his heart out yesterday)
16 Sep 2012, 20:33 pm
@wls1-225: jake & “massively successful” in the same sentence?! not likely…
winning a world cup is not being “massively successful”
jake also gave us 49 -0 pastings…
16 Sep 2012, 20:34 pm
@Hondo-239:
We can also bring Alberts off the bench as an impact player which suits him
16 Sep 2012, 20:35 pm
I just hope that the minds of the Sharkies in the Boks are recoverable from all the brainwashing… Looks like Plum has got some hard work getting the chaps to farken run decent lines and actually offload in the tackle or pass the ball again.
16 Sep 2012, 20:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA1Ls8rg7l8
here’s some modern stuff, cant find the older stuff, **** we had plenty of vids, check out fleck at 2.42″, that bugger could take a gap, i think its also him at 0.40″ v ABs, yoh, regdeur.
16 Sep 2012, 20:37 pm
Plus we know the style we have been playing and the slow 9 and 10 who kick away good ball far to deep and down oppositions throat, you dont need a quick loosie like Daniels
Now if Hougaard was allowed to break at 9 and goosen head of running at 10
you need Daniels
16 Sep 2012, 20:38 pm
@Transformation-242: So a World Cup, a Junior World Cup, a Tri Nations Trophy and nearly getting a bunch of unknowns from ACT into the playoffs in his first season not successful?
Hmmm… Jake the Snake might have some character flaws but give him his due… He is not as bad a coach as you irrational haters make him out to be.
16 Sep 2012, 20:41 pm
2009 a very fine year, especially for the big hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCeL-HZX9bI&feature=related
ka-pow.
16 Sep 2012, 20:42 pm
@CoachPete-241:
JdV is no captain and the forwards need the decision maker up front and in a real time
Strauss is a stand in, making him a captain will challenge Bissie when he comes back
Only draw back with Daniel is you can’t play him in tandem with Brussow, it’s either or in my opinion!
16 Sep 2012, 20:43 pm
This begs the question… what would Jake do with the current setup…
I can nearly guarantee you that Daniel would be in his squad, if not his run on side.
Actually, after the goddamn madness of Dippy the last 4 years and now the farken confusion of Heyneke, Jake is well and truly forgiven…
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