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	<title>Comments on: PdV&#8217;s Boks were as white as Meyer&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: Warrshotande</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2231523</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrshotande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mxhosa - at the moment the Bok feeder system = The Bulls
So, yes...I guess you&#039;re right.

How do you okes feel about Mujati...? He&#039;s done some good stuff in Uk....but he&#039;s not played for reasons we all know.
Accusations of inequality for black players when there is racism agains our Zim brothers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mxhosa &#8211; at the moment the Bok feeder system = The Bulls<br />
So, yes&#8230;I guess you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>How do you okes feel about Mujati&#8230;? He&#8217;s done some good stuff in Uk&#8230;.but he&#8217;s not played for reasons we all know.<br />
Accusations of inequality for black players when there is racism agains our Zim brothers.</p>
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		<title>By: victoriabok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2231334</link>
		<dc:creator>victoriabok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2231247&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mxhosa-108&lt;/a&gt;: 

&gt; Kings:
 
&gt; ????

Pukie ?

His dad said so]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2231247" rel="nofollow">mxhosa-108</a>: </p>
<p>&gt; Kings:</p>
<p>&gt; ????</p>
<p>Pukie ?</p>
<p>His dad said so</p>
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		<title>By: Honesty Box Seymour</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2231332</link>
		<dc:creator>Honesty Box Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nama1 = Peter De Villiers

Both are fixated with the wit oke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nama1 = Peter De Villiers</p>
<p>Both are fixated with the wit oke.</p>
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		<title>By: mxhosa</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2231247</link>
		<dc:creator>mxhosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fact is that no bok has had enough players of colour to choose from. Most of them are on the wing or outside centre... In the forwards, they&#039;re mostly loose forwards, hookers or loosehead props.

In last week&#039;s CC team sheets the were only 18 players of colour out of 132, only 11 starters... 

In next year&#039;s super 15 the following players will feature regularly in match 22&#039;s:

Bulls:

Kirchner, Basson, Ralepelle

Cheetahs:

Rhule, Raubenheimer

Kings:

????

Sharks:

JP Pietersen, Mvovo, Beast

Stormers:

Aplon, Habana, De Jongh, Kolisi, Jantjies? (If the rumours are true)

The problem is that not enough black players are coming through the bok feeder system. The EP Kings who will supposedly address the problem only have two black players in the starting xv for this weekend&#039;s game... Where the hell is this pool of black players the coach is supposed to choose from?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact is that no bok has had enough players of colour to choose from. Most of them are on the wing or outside centre&#8230; In the forwards, they&#8217;re mostly loose forwards, hookers or loosehead props.</p>
<p>In last week&#8217;s CC team sheets the were only 18 players of colour out of 132, only 11 starters&#8230; </p>
<p>In next year&#8217;s super 15 the following players will feature regularly in match 22&#8242;s:</p>
<p>Bulls:</p>
<p>Kirchner, Basson, Ralepelle</p>
<p>Cheetahs:</p>
<p>Rhule, Raubenheimer</p>
<p>Kings:</p>
<p>????</p>
<p>Sharks:</p>
<p>JP Pietersen, Mvovo, Beast</p>
<p>Stormers:</p>
<p>Aplon, Habana, De Jongh, Kolisi, Jantjies? (If the rumours are true)</p>
<p>The problem is that not enough black players are coming through the bok feeder system. The EP Kings who will supposedly address the problem only have two black players in the starting xv for this weekend&#8217;s game&#8230; Where the hell is this pool of black players the coach is supposed to choose from?</p>
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		<title>By: bok2007</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2231220</link>
		<dc:creator>bok2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230825&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;skop-63&lt;/a&gt;: How about this team as world beaters.

15: Andre Joubert 
14: James Small 
13: Japie Mulder 
12: Hennie le Roux 
11: Chester Williams
10: Joel Stransky 
9: Joost van der Westhuizen 
8: Mark Andrews
7: Reuben Kruger 
6: Francois Pienaar
5: Hannes Strydom 
4: Kobus Wiese
3: Balie Swart
2: Chris Rossouw
1: Os du Randt 


Only one quota.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230825" rel="nofollow">skop-63</a>: How about this team as world beaters.</p>
<p>15: Andre Joubert<br />
14: James Small<br />
13: Japie Mulder<br />
12: Hennie le Roux<br />
11: Chester Williams<br />
10: Joel Stransky<br />
9: Joost van der Westhuizen<br />
8: Mark Andrews<br />
7: Reuben Kruger<br />
6: Francois Pienaar<br />
5: Hannes Strydom<br />
4: Kobus Wiese<br />
3: Balie Swart<br />
2: Chris Rossouw<br />
1: Os du Randt </p>
<p>Only one quota.</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230917</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skeppie-100&lt;/a&gt;: 
true

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230890&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heavens Game-103&lt;/a&gt;: 
I think we&#039;ve covered that already, HG.

It could be any of pigmentation, Language group or the franchise for which you play/not play.

So, when a favorite of mr X  is not selected and it is this perception that it is because of the player&#039;s color and at another time, one of your favorites (Keegan) is not selected and it is your perception is that it is about him being English and not Afrikaans, why are you right and mr X is wrong?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230881" rel="nofollow">Skeppie-100</a>:<br />
true</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-2230890" rel="nofollow">Heavens Game-103</a>:<br />
I think we&#8217;ve covered that already, HG.</p>
<p>It could be any of pigmentation, Language group or the franchise for which you play/not play.</p>
<p>So, when a favorite of mr X  is not selected and it is this perception that it is because of the player&#8217;s color and at another time, one of your favorites (Keegan) is not selected and it is your perception is that it is about him being English and not Afrikaans, why are you right and mr X is wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230908</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230903&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dawn-104&lt;/a&gt;: Methinks you have the big offshore fishing rod out Dawn, nice try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230903" rel="nofollow">Dawn-104</a>: Methinks you have the big offshore fishing rod out Dawn, nice try.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230903</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230883&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skeppie-101&lt;/a&gt;: 

We go back a ways]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230883" rel="nofollow">Skeppie-101</a>: </p>
<p>We go back a ways</p>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230890</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230869&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-96&lt;/a&gt;: Who was the form Super Rugby flyhalf of 2011...?

Yet he was hardly picked either other than a few minutes on field in the snow against Scotland?

Apparently he was a better 15 than flyhalf... according to Matfield and the other Morne Steyn cheerleaders...

So, Nama, its not always about pigmentation... Maybe its about the way you speak... Lambie, a good Michaelhouse boy, could be a little too posh of a soutie for some of the inferiority complex sensitivities of some of the &quot;traditional power&quot; Boks...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230869" rel="nofollow">nama1-96</a>: Who was the form Super Rugby flyhalf of 2011&#8230;?</p>
<p>Yet he was hardly picked either other than a few minutes on field in the snow against Scotland?</p>
<p>Apparently he was a better 15 than flyhalf&#8230; according to Matfield and the other Morne Steyn cheerleaders&#8230;</p>
<p>So, Nama, its not always about pigmentation&#8230; Maybe its about the way you speak&#8230; Lambie, a good Michaelhouse boy, could be a little too posh of a soutie for some of the inferiority complex sensitivities of some of the &#8220;traditional power&#8221; Boks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230884</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skeppie-100&lt;/a&gt;: And way too many chiefs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230881" rel="nofollow">Skeppie-100</a>: And way too many chiefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230883</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230868&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dawn-95&lt;/a&gt;: HAHAHA is this the old &quot;I bet you can&#039;t make coffee in 3 mins&quot; trick?  How do you know who he is Dawn?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230868" rel="nofollow">Dawn-95</a>: HAHAHA is this the old &#8220;I bet you can&#8217;t make coffee in 3 mins&#8221; trick?  How do you know who he is Dawn?</p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230881</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-99&lt;/a&gt;: That&#039;s really racist...you have no indians in that side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230880" rel="nofollow">nama1-99</a>: That&#8217;s really racist&#8230;you have no indians in that side.</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230880</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230825&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;skop-63&lt;/a&gt;: 
Swop Hougaard for Heini Adams and we&#039;re all set.

Two white quotas and all.  :lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230825" rel="nofollow">skop-63</a>:<br />
Swop Hougaard for Heini Adams and we&#8217;re all set.</p>
<p>Two white quotas and all.  <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230879</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230871&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dawn-97&lt;/a&gt;: Terribly sorry Dawn.....I doff my hat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230871" rel="nofollow">Dawn-97</a>: Terribly sorry Dawn&#8230;..I doff my hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230865&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skeppie-94&lt;/a&gt;: 

He didn&#039;t confuse you with anyone

He was explaining it to you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230865" rel="nofollow">Skeppie-94</a>: </p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t confuse you with anyone</p>
<p>He was explaining it to you</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/09/18/pdvs-boks-were-as-white-as-meyers/#comment-2230869</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230803&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rangerman-55&lt;/a&gt;: 
&quot;but pdv used jantjies how many times?&quot;

Now that&#039;s a cop out if ever there was one.  :lol:

Jantjies break through year was in 2010. In 2011 he did not play well in the S14 and was even dropped from the Lions team by Mitchell.

Unlike Meyer, who still selects Morne now despite his poor form, PdV opted not to select Jantjies because of his poor form in 2011 in the S14. Also, it was a RWC year. Not really the time to blood a young FH, if you know what I mean.

Do you now blame him for that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230803" rel="nofollow">rangerman-55</a>:<br />
&#8220;but pdv used jantjies how many times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s a cop out if ever there was one.  <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jantjies break through year was in 2010. In 2011 he did not play well in the S14 and was even dropped from the Lions team by Mitchell.</p>
<p>Unlike Meyer, who still selects Morne now despite his poor form, PdV opted not to select Jantjies because of his poor form in 2011 in the S14. Also, it was a RWC year. Not really the time to blood a young FH, if you know what I mean.</p>
<p>Do you now blame him for that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230853&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skeppie-85&lt;/a&gt;: 

I know.

I also know who he is.

Now why you speaking in code.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230853" rel="nofollow">Skeppie-85</a>: </p>
<p>I know.</p>
<p>I also know who he is.</p>
<p>Now why you speaking in code.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230863&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spiesisworthless1-93&lt;/a&gt;: No sweat, just don;t confuse me with Fitz1ella.....I would hate to be known as a bigot with a chip on my shoulder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230863" rel="nofollow">Spiesisworthless1-93</a>: No sweat, just don;t confuse me with Fitz1ella&#8230;..I would hate to be known as a bigot with a chip on my shoulder.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiesisworthless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiesisworthless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230861&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skeppie-91&lt;/a&gt;: I know... Errrr. Nevermind, break-down in communication :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230861" rel="nofollow">Skeppie-91</a>: I know&#8230; Errrr. Nevermind, break-down in communication <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wnbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>wnbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2230851&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-83&lt;/a&gt;: Don&#039;t waste your energy.He is only interested in two-step wingers instead of ones that can defend as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2230851" rel="nofollow">The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-83</a>: Don&#8217;t waste your energy.He is only interested in two-step wingers instead of ones that can defend as well.</p>
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