Goosen looks set to start
25 Sep 2012
Johan Goosen spent Tuesday’s training session running at flyhalf, indicating strongly that he is likely to run-on against Australia at Loftus on Saturday.
In my experience, because of time constraints in terms of preparation, Springbok coaches have had to show their selection hand in the Tuesday session. Goosen lined up in what is almost certainly the starting side, while Morne Steyn worked defence with the players opposing them.
Goosen made good impressions in his short stints off the bench against the Wallabies in Perth and All Blacks in Dunedin. He has been the man most have called for to replace the struggling Steyn and it appears coach Heyneke Meyer will entrust him with a big part of the responsibility for galvanising the team’s attack.
Meanwhile, it appears Frans Steyn will recover from a rolled ankle in time for the Test. He made significant improvements overnight, and while he was still on crutches at the session as a precaution, my understanding is that he will play.
‘The X-rays were clear and the swelling has settled nicely. We’re hoping to get him to do some training on Wednesday,’ said Springbok team doctor Craig Roberts.
Flip van der Merwe (lock, calf), Jacques Potgieter (flank, groin) and Lwazi Mvovo (wing, hamstring) did not train with the squad on Tuesday and will be managed accordingly. A final call on their availability will be made later in the week.
Elsewhere in the team, Eben Etzebeth looks set to return to action after a suspension and will partner Andries Bekker in what appears to be the only other change from the side that lost to the Blacks in Dunedin.
Likely Springboks XV- 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Francois Hougaard, 13 Jean de Villiers, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermuelen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Read last week’s exclusive interview with Johan Goosen here
By Ryan Vrede, in Johannesburg
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25 Sep 2012, 18:33 pm
@gunther-47: @David-45:
Aren’t they both injured?
25 Sep 2012, 18:42 pm
we do have big centers in the making…
12-f steyn 13-j de villiers-(2012)
12-f steyn 13-j taute
12-f steyn 13-jp pietersen
12-f steyn 13-jj engelbrecht
12-f steyn 13-l mapoe
12-f steyn 13-j de villiers in numerical order whom I’d prefer for the EOYT and forward…
To be very specific I’d play this 15 in dec…
25 Sep 2012, 18:58 pm
Yoh. When B?ssy and JPP are ava!lable we w!ll have a team that can beat anyone.
But lets wa!t t!ll the team !s announced. Th!s Keo mob was conv!nced Butch would be the flyhalf !n RWC 2011.
25 Sep 2012, 19:00 pm
@Xtremebull-52:
No room for midgets like De Jongh and Jordaan in your team?
25 Sep 2012, 19:04 pm
I just hope the Goose isn’t writing cheques that his body can’t cash! …..
Bazinga!
25 Sep 2012, 19:11 pm
Zulu are ignorant and prone to sorting out matters in violent way, they are also the greatest and most famous warriors in Africa. Xhosa’s have always regarded themselves superior to other blacks to their educated status and have a stigma of being stuck-up, the are also the most famous tribe that has given the world famous politicains and leaders like Cchris Hani,Nelson Mandela, O.R Thambo and many many more.South Aafrican english speakers affectionately labeled ‘die souties’ by Aafrikaaners briothers have always had their head up their own arses, but at the same time have always been level-headed and more liberal thinkers than their Aafrikaaners counterparts (kitch kristie, nick mallet, Jake White…..vs Strauli,Heineken etc).
Afrikaans people are close minded, ignorant and ultra-conservative, they are also the only white European group to create their own non-eurocentric identity that is based on their culture. Australians and new zealnders are really just Brits, Argentinians are Spanish etc.
Afrikaans people forged their own culture and language. every culture or people has it’s typical side and it’s positives. Heyneke Meyer is only showing us ONE typical aspect of Afrikaans people.
for the sake of the Boks and the country as a whole I hope we get thumped and he gets fired asap and gets replaced with another Afrikaner….Rassie Erasmus. or Even Mallett.. People who can’t rise above their immediate are what you call squares, if they were white ‘ffuck the kaffirrs’, if they’re black ‘kill the Boere’ if they’re women ‘ girl power’…typical squares. Heineke is as 4-sided as squares get.
25 Sep 2012, 19:11 pm
48.
dusky….ozzies will lose even if i play flyhalf
the bulls at loftus ended barry joubert combo
ettienne botha and jp nel….lol
75-14
25 Sep 2012, 19:22 pm
@barcelonista-56:
You don’t mention Coloureds? South Africa’s original people. How would you describe us, and have we developed as leaders?
25 Sep 2012, 19:22 pm
@barcelonista-56
You are going around in circles.
Since when is Mallett an Afrikaner?
25 Sep 2012, 19:24 pm
25 Sep 2012, 19:26 pm
Back to the article or guess work of Ryan.
Just hope Ruan is not starting at 9. Goosen, if he starts, needs Hougaard to provide him with quick flat ball. In any event, Hougaard is wasted out on the wing.
25 Sep 2012, 19:31 pm
Village in Spain missing its idiot
25 Sep 2012, 19:47 pm
this dude is going to get his story straight by default not by design. Against his better judgments he’s going to be forced into playing the better balanced team through sheer weight of common sense realization over his dumb struck hard headed idiocy.
Already this team is a far cry from that dismally selected rubbish he set out with Spies, Potgieter, Coetsee, all his realization coming through trial and error and injury forcing his hand.
Now looks like the penny might ultimately drop that Steyn is hampering progress, except playing Pienaar at 9 and Kirchner at 15 is just as bad. Pity he continues to do the foxtrot with himself 1 step forward 2 steps back, 2 steps forward 1 step back. Why not just Fix all the problems once and for all and play the right setup up front instead of daydreaming round the rosemary bush trying out this then that, trial and error steps still unsure of himself.
25 Sep 2012, 19:48 pm
@stormersboy-55:
Your ego’s out of control.
25 Sep 2012, 19:57 pm
Kirtchner set for his TWENTIETH Bok cap. *Sigh*.
25 Sep 2012, 20:01 pm
@fitz1ella-63:
By default not by design. That is exactly what is happening, if he does in fact play Goosen.
When he announced that first squad of his with all the Bulle and no Brussow, I said at the time that there will be guys falling off the bus and others putting their hands up.
Potgieter and Spies have relinguished their places in the forwards. Same is about to happen in the backs. Kirchner needs a huge game on Saturday because all he is doing is denying Lambie much needed game time. Taute’s time will come – he needs to settle into the Bok set-up first – don’t expect to see him in the starting 22 this weekend.
25 Sep 2012, 20:04 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-65:
Best he grabs it with both hands. And not both feet.
25 Sep 2012, 20:07 pm
what these goddamn morons can’t realize is that between Fourie du Preez and Morne Steyn the Boks have been going headlong in REVERSE for 3 whole seasons already.. yet they STILL reckon these damn ropes around their necks deserve high accolades and hero worship..
Ever since that lucky packet daydream when Burger got injured or suspended for eye gouging and Brussow came on and revolutionized the go forward ball at the cutting edge of the breakdown and M. Steyn simply converted all the forced error 3 point penalties to take the 2009 Bil’s series and the 2009 3N Boks have STEADILY been going down a long spiral of regression under Morne Steyn and Fourie du Preez.. not to mention the other 2 supreme backward promo’s leading the retreat John Smit and Pierre Spies
Now that SLOWLY the cancer is getting cut OUT.. Smit GONE, FdP GONE, Spies GONE.. next up M. Steyn GONE and ultimately Kirchner to GO and Hougaard to partner Goosen at half back.. and FINALLY without these hindrances Spies, Potgieter, Steyn and Kirchner Boks will have the CORRECT modus operandi in place to turn the corner from retrograde to advance.
25 Sep 2012, 20:13 pm
@I am a stormer-66: pity he simply couldn’t get it right without being goaded and coerced into action.. why it takes so damn agonizing long for a donkey to get forced to the water and ultimately even forced to drink is beyond any rational simple common sense realization
25 Sep 2012, 20:13 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-65:
Why don’t you tell him to **** off some more.
See if that does the trick?
25 Sep 2012, 20:15 pm
@barcelonista-56: F.Off.Several Times.
25 Sep 2012, 20:17 pm
@I am a stormer-59: Thats the biggest problem you have with what he said???
25 Sep 2012, 20:17 pm
@ryecatcher-71: And then again.D oos
25 Sep 2012, 20:25 pm
@Kaizan-49: Pray tell the stats for all the bok wingers for that peiod?
25 Sep 2012, 20:39 pm
i left out coloreds as to not have a whole essay on the blog. personally I rate Cape-Malaysian-colored girls as easily the juiciest plump straight-up HOTTEST women in South Africa by a country mile. If you’re from Cape Town both you and your member will be ‘nodding’ in agreement…boere meisie kinders are too blond, those weaves on the ‘sista’s are a turn off, the less about soutie women the better…
25 Sep 2012, 20:43 pm
@trupisero-74: I accidentally wrote that JP had 24 tries in 45 games…. It’s meant to say 14 tries. My mistake!!
Most wingers in world rugby have a try-scoring record of just over 50% roughly (ie 1 try for every 2 games)… a 50% try-scoring record is considered average for a wing… JP’s record falls way below this benchmark.
25 Sep 2012, 21:14 pm
@barcelonista-75:
Given your propensity for insulting all race groups in SA*, the only juicy, plump thing getting close to your small d-ick would be your sweaty right hand
*- You’ve missed the Indians in your insults btw, but I’m sure you’d make that up in your next posts as soon as you swop the left foot out of your mouth for the right
25 Sep 2012, 21:33 pm
@56
wtf was that? hell I never thought Id see a post that is more k@k than Pielneus’ but you sir, you take the cake with that shite right there.
25 Sep 2012, 21:35 pm
@barcelonista-75:
so . you wan’t to pomp me, mr messi?
25 Sep 2012, 21:42 pm
The guy who really fcked our chances is Bismarck. By getting injured he basically sabotaged our entire Rugby Championship. If this were Iran they’d be fixing to hang him over lunch at a packed Moses Mabida. But we’re soft on these guys. We send them Get Well Soon cards from CNA, instead of imprisoning their families in labour camps.
25 Sep 2012, 21:48 pm
Hmmm,deviating from rugga very fast again???
25 Sep 2012, 21:50 pm
@katman-80: That’s soo dumb dude, you can’t control when you get injured!
And FFS, we had 3 teams in S15 finals, so 1 player out, we should’ve managed better than we’ve done so far!
25 Sep 2012, 21:54 pm
@KeurboomPark-79:
Hy sallie veel regkry nie, hy’s all show and no go
25 Sep 2012, 21:55 pm
@papaown-82: No, you’re right. Let’s get Josh Grobin to write him a get better song. How about Knee Of Hope?
25 Sep 2012, 21:57 pm
I Goosen has a ripper, I’d expect HM to sub him early in the 2nd half cause he is a dumb kant.
25 Sep 2012, 21:58 pm
Oh dear god, Kirchner is still there. What have I done to deserve this?
25 Sep 2012, 22:00 pm
@papaown-82: Katman MIGHT have been sarcastic with that comment. MiGHT.
25 Sep 2012, 22:06 pm
@garth-85:
> cause he is a dumb kant.
Koos vra ‘n Engelse meisie uit en sy sê dis reg vir Saterdagaand
Hy kan nie juis Engels praat nie en oefen heel week sy tenses, she is, they are
Hy laai haar toe op die aand en toe hy uit die driveway in die pad wil indraai, kan hy nie sien of daar karre aankom van links af nie
Hy vra haar toe:
“Are your kant clean?”
Einde van die date
25 Sep 2012, 22:07 pm
@kwas-87: Perhaps just a teeny bit.
25 Sep 2012, 22:14 pm
arme ou Koos hy wou so odentelik a nice impression gemaak het op sy first date met sy Engelse prom queen. . nou is die dom doos alweer uit in die woestyn… klink amper soos Heyneke .. dink jy hy sal dit regkry die naweek ..egte kant of regte kant of links…strike of mis .. bulls eye of nie?
25 Sep 2012, 22:16 pm
well it seems we all get our wish.
hope it works out.
the dumbasses now insisting elton must be on the bench instead of morne need to have a long think about things.
i see grant10 is banging his drum endlessly, repetitively again
25 Sep 2012, 22:17 pm
My main gripe with HM is that its soo obvious he’s deviant!
He has his favourites he wants to play, and if they’re injured he’ll keep Blue Bull players in the team till the player comes right, he won’t sub the Blue Bull player incase the interim players shine and then he can’t bring in the players he wants eg. Elton/Lambie while waiting for the Goose, also Lambie/Zane while waiting for Taute.
He coaches with soo much fear and its no wonder the players respond on the field with a lack of enthusiasm and enjoyment in what they are doing out there
25 Sep 2012, 22:19 pm
@gunther-64: If Goose is, well, Goose, I hope that Meyer isn’t Maverick. He strikes me more like the Captain of the Air-craft Carrier that was kukking them out after the fly-by.
I had Frans Steyn pegged as ice man.
25 Sep 2012, 22:23 pm
@fitz1ella-90:
Ons het min teen die Wallabies in SA verloor
Ek dink ons kon beide weg toetse verloor het, Beast en Dean en Morne het ons gekos
Hulle het ook nog interne struwelinge in die Wallabie kamp, Cooper se kritiek op die coach maak dit sekerlik nie makliker nie
Ons gaan hulle rol
25 Sep 2012, 22:29 pm
@papaown-92: sounds like tenuous provincialistic bs to me.
@barcelonista-75: you are quite amusing but please leave the racial insults off the blog ok?
gracias hijo.
25 Sep 2012, 22:32 pm
As Boks teen die klomp gemors soos die Wallabies die naweek uitdraf tog verloor.. dan is daar helse snot en trane op die horison wat volg..
Ons het baie teen die Wallabies onlangs verloor die laas paar jare.. net die een wen in 2010 en 3 keer verloor 2011 .. maar die keer is hulle heeltemaal sat deurmekaar .. as Boks die naweek in Loftus teen hulle verloor dan is HM se blou broekies sleg aan die brand Sondag in die koerant.
25 Sep 2012, 22:35 pm
reads like gibberish and thats before you consider the meaning.
like a shredder being used to carve a roast.
25 Sep 2012, 22:38 pm
@rangerman-95: Don’t even get me started as I support the Blue Bulls but am not blind to what is going on
I put the Boks 1st and its time HM did the same!
25 Sep 2012, 22:39 pm
i see keo calls steve hofmeyr “stevie”
thats sweet.
what a pair of winners.
25 Sep 2012, 22:40 pm
@papaown-98: ok, i would prefer not to get you going hehehe.
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