Meyer: We can’t throw Morne away
25 Sep 2012
Heyneke Meyer says dropping Morne Steyn from the Springboks’ squad was not the solution to remedying his struggles.
Steyn has been the central villain in what has been a nightmare Rugby Championship campaign for the Springboks. His ball-in-hand play is widely perceived to be average, while his tactical and goal kicking has lacked its trademark accuracy.
There is a sense that a large portion of the South African rugby fraternity has lost patience with Steyn, the tipping point coming in their most recent Test against the All Blacks in Dunedin, where he missed kicks which were decisive in the final analysis.
Meyer has consistently voiced his view that Steyn’s heavy workload over the last three years has compromised him and reiterated this after the Dunedin defeat once more. He intimated then that he would rest Steyn for the home leg, but said those plans were shelved in light of a ruling that requires Springboks players to compete in the Currie Cup if not in the squad.
‘We need to look at how we manage our players but it was best that he stayed involved,’ Meyer said. ‘There is a lot of criticism [directed] at Morne, but you’re still working with a human being. If you look at when Bryan [Habana] was struggling, as a coach you can’t just throw a guy away and expect him to come back stronger. I’m not the type of coach to just throw a guy away.
‘Obviously if you do stupid things there’s no sympathy [Meyer would later suggest that Dean Greyling wouldn't play Test rugby again because of his cowardly assault Richie McCaw]. But Morne’s general play was good, it was his kicking that was poor and we have to work on that. It is great to have him in the group, especially with Johan Goosen not being 100% fit [bruised heel]. I can already see being back home has helped him.’
Meyer continued to defend his gameplan, which is thought to be too conservative, stressing that his belief in its effectiveness hasn’t diminished. ‘There’s been a lot of talk about the gameplan but I thought we played the All Blacks perfectly,’ he said.
‘We had more scoring chances than them but we finished poorly. We didn’t convert pressure into points. The teams are so close in Test rugby that that is costly. It frustrated me today in training because when we broke the line guys didn’t show an instinct to finish. They almost appeared to stop. We have to finish better. There isn’t a lot to change in the gameplan, we just have to finish better.’
He also suggested that expectations need to be tempered in keeping with his infancy in the role. ‘I’ve checked the stats, Steve Hansen has been with the All Blacks for 100 Tests. Robbie Deans has just surpassed Bob Dwyer’s 65 Tests as coach. The Argentinian coach has been there for four or five years. I’ve been with the team for seven weeks,’ he said.
‘When you take over a new team with new coaching staff and players and take on the top sides in the world there will be a bit of self doubt for everybody. The players know they could have beaten Australia and New Zealand. But I sense the self-belief is growing. That comes with experience and we’re short on that. But we’re home now and the lessons from those defeats must show in our performances.’
By Ryan Vrede, in Pretoria
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24 Sep 2012, 23:22 pm
No hebrew in Waters, Vedder, Browne, Morrison at all… None whatsoever.
24 Sep 2012, 23:22 pm
@Heavens Game-245: Please man Springsteen at his best is like Sting singing Maybelline on Marylebone High Street compared to Dylan at his absolute worst.
24 Sep 2012, 23:23 pm
@victoriabok-250: Fuckit…
24 Sep 2012, 23:24 pm
@Heavens Game-234:
Yip, Bulle en biltong
Speaking of biltong, I’ve shot my first deer two weeks ago, the biltong is very nice
Different from hunting in SA though, spent two hours getting it out of the mountain (definitely not the Magaliesberg)
Tough terrain where the Blacktailed deer live, nearly popped a vein in my a-ss
24 Sep 2012, 23:25 pm
Billy Ray Cyrus is the one and only King.
24 Sep 2012, 23:28 pm
@fitz1ella-252: Rubbish man… Springsteen got the lyrics, the music AND the stage presence…
No live concert better than the Boss…
Dylan got about 10 iconic classics… Lets be honest, much of the rest is overrated at best, and nothing more than a farken downright up yours to the rock snobs…
He takes thepiss out of the fools looking for redemption, signs and wisdom in some of his downright wailing…
24 Sep 2012, 23:29 pm
@victoriabok-254:
24 Sep 2012, 23:29 pm
@Heavens Game-256:
What about this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7VsoxT_FUY
24 Sep 2012, 23:30 pm
@victoriabok-258: Lol… Farken Gauteng rockabilly
24 Sep 2012, 23:31 pm
@Heavens Game-251: I thought Darwin taught you all life emanated from the backwaters of the garden of Gethsemane .. not down that little stream called the Danube.. better get your facts straight boytjie because you paddling up the Rhine in reverse…
Jackson Browne is half Cherokee and half Jewish just like Jimi .. so too Van the Man half Celtic genius and half Ashkenazi . not that other dismal freak his namesake Jimbo… and the only Beatle who wasn’t remotely any kin to Abraham was Ringo Starr who sold his soul to his half brother Paul for a pocket full of Marjorie jam juice
24 Sep 2012, 23:35 pm
Liewe Luiperd is ou Groot Wit Naai under another alias.. no wonder Billy Ray Cyrus is his hero in waiting.. ai foei tog liewe arme luiperd.. die ou is darem deur die geroomde piesangs brood.
24 Sep 2012, 23:37 pm
@fitz1ella-260: “half Cherokee and half Jewish”… That your new PC term for a black man? Fark me what a load of bulldust…
Here’s a lyricist without an ounce of ashkenazi… farkall river jordan either
He floated back down ’cause he wanted to share
His key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere
But first he was stripped and then he was stabbed
By faceless men, well, f.uckers
He still stands
24 Sep 2012, 23:38 pm
If Herr Goebeldy reckons Springsteen is the Boss then that about sums up his musical appreciation.. what can we say the poor dude is almost as deluded as Heyneke drinking Heineken and thinking its Glockenspiel Gluwein.
24 Sep 2012, 23:39 pm
@victoriabok-258:
Much better than sokkie, fo-kkie bokkie eh?
24 Sep 2012, 23:40 pm
@Heavens Game-262:
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.
24 Sep 2012, 23:43 pm
The ashkenazi is on drugs tonight.
24 Sep 2012, 23:43 pm
@fitz1ella-263: Shout and scream as much as you want to… But I actually reckon the Joker got the last laugh on all you high rock royalty music snobs who think you might know the absolute of what is good music and what is not…
Jim Fogherty even penned a good few than some of the Zimmerman shy.te… And not an ashkenazi bone in his Up around the bend body…
24 Sep 2012, 23:44 pm
@Heavens Game-267: John Fogherty not Jim…
Morrison is Jim and he could pen a few words in anger too…
24 Sep 2012, 23:46 pm
ha haa
Its amaising or is it that everyone is excited. Ist its Dippy Dissie Divvie ,now its the Cheetahs coach are having their says.
HM has alot of “chooners” out there I hope he is able to block it all blank. Sounds like everyone wants to be the Bok coach these days…Everyone knows how to be a coach better than HM.
Which makes me start to wonder, is he going to reach the heights no other coach in this country has had before?
This could be a watershed moment…
Other coaches(DDD aint a coach) should keep their noses out. HM should play whom he wants as he is the coach. If he messes up, then he’ll learn
24 Sep 2012, 23:49 pm
Morne Will Get Better. Whats The Use Of Getting A Flyhalf Who’ll Make Us Play Like The ABs? There’s Only One NZ. Ask Aus & The Islanders What Happens When You Try To Beat The ABs At Their Own Game. Just Like In Football Where There Is Only One Barcelona
24 Sep 2012, 23:50 pm
The new Dave Matthews Band album (Away from the World) is magnificent.
24 Sep 2012, 23:51 pm
you know your Teutonic vorsprung durch technik hangup is precisely whats holding Heyneke back.. he should enroll some clear sighted visionary capacity .. like Mallet and Christie did.. cut the Teutonic rigidity some slack and let the sunshine in…
Jim Morrison was a raucous raving rebel not a musician.. and Van Morison is the real music man…like Neil Young.. Bob Dylan .. Steven Stills etc.. Fogherty is pure hump the pump bootlegging balderdash like Billy Ray Cyrus and his ilk.
24 Sep 2012, 23:53 pm
@victoriabok-265: Sheezus, don’t tell me you bought into this ashkenazi cherokee half half skop skiet and bulldust….
Now here are blood, sweat and tears translated into words and music… And no soppy softcock ashkenazi highfaluting in sight:
In the day we sweat it out on the streets of a runaway American dream
At night we ride through the mansions of glory in suicide machines
Sprung from cages out on highway 9,
Chrome wheeled, fuel injected,and steppin’ out over the line
h-Oh, Baby this town rips the bones from your back
It’s a death trap, it’s a suicide rap
We gotta get out while we’re young
`Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run
24 Sep 2012, 23:56 pm
@Heavens Game-268:
CCR rocks!
24 Sep 2012, 23:57 pm
@fitz1ella-272: Fark me, next you probably going to reckon that Dippy is half cherokee half ashkenazi too… a symphonic rugby genius…
Fark that… I reckon maybe a couple of morning glory seeds got mixed up in your lentils tonight…
25 Sep 2012, 00:00 am
@Heavens Game-273:
Nope, but I was impressed by seeing Leonard Cohen live
You’re just scared that it might mean they’ll cut a piece off something…;-)
One of my favourites
I remember how rough your hand felt on mine on my wedding day
And the tears cried on my shoulder I couldn’t turn away
Well so much has happened to me that I don’t understand
All I can think of is being five years old following behind you at the beach tracing your footprints in the sand
Trying to walk like a man
By Our Lady Of The Roses we lived in the shadow of the elms
I remember ma draggin’ me and my sister up the street to the church whenever she heard those wedding bells
Well would they ever look so happy again the handsome groom and his bride
As they stepped into that long black limousine for their mystery ride
Well tonight you step away from me and alone at the alter I stand
And as I watch my bride coming down the aisle I pray for the strength to walk like a man
Well now the years have gone and I’ve grown from that seed you’ve sown
But I didn’t think there’d be so many steps I’d have to learn on my own
Well I was young and I didn’t know what to do
When I saw your best steps stolen away from you
Now I’ll do what I can
I’ll walk like a man
And I’ll keep on walkin’
25 Sep 2012, 00:05 am
@victoriabok-276: Was trying not to mention the name but now Skop all over this like a half cherokee half ashkenazi banshee with his hebrew music theory…
25 Sep 2012, 00:06 am
@Heavens Game-277:
We need to get him date with Rossoni or Dawn
25 Sep 2012, 00:10 am
@victoriabok-276: Yeah… Nothing conveys that sense of nostalgic regret but at the same time making it uplifting like the Boss does…
Decent song.
25 Sep 2012, 00:12 am
An I’ll stand on the ocean until I start sinking
there is no such thing as genetic supremacy or imaginary rockabilly genius when it comes to music or art or sport or rocket science
the highway is for gamblers better use your sense.. take what you have gathered from coincidence.
every sapient being is born with similar genetic conditioning.. only couple strands of common DNA this way or that way strung out on a limb in extraneous limbo
come together.. right now .. or let Jojo get back to where he once belonged.
25 Sep 2012, 00:14 am
Although Miley is probably better as a musician than her old man Billy ray. Miley Cyrus is a great in the making, the female Bob Dylan.
25 Sep 2012, 00:15 am
@Heavens Game-279:
Have you see this before:
HOW TO SING THE BLUES
by Lame Mango Washington
1. Most Blues begin, “Woke up this morning.”
2. “I got a good woman” is a bad way to begin the Blues, ‘less you stick something nasty in the next line, like ” I got a good woman, with the meanest face in town.”
3. The Blues is simple. After you get the first line right, repeat it. Then find something that rhymes … sort of: “Got a good woman – with the meanest face in town. Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher – and she weigh 500 pound.”
4. The Blues are not about choice. You stuck in a ditch, you stuck in a ditch; ain’t no way out.
5. Blues cars: Chevys and Cadillacs and broken-down trucks.
Blues don’t travel in Volvos, BMWs, or Sport Utility Vehicles.
Most Blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train.
Jet aircraft an’ state-sponsored motor pools ain’t even in the running.
Walkin’ plays a major part in the blues lifestyle.
So does fixin’ to die.
6. Teenagers can’t sing the Blues.
They ain’t fixin’ to die yet.
Adults sing the Blues.
In Blues, ” adulthood” means being old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis.
7. Blues can take place in New York City but not in Hawaii or any place in Canada.
Hard times in St. Paul or Tucson is just depression.
Chicago, St. Louis, and Kansas City still the best places to have the Blues.
You cannot have the blues in any place that don’t get rain.
8. A man with male pattern baldness ain’t the blues.
A woman with male pattern baldness is.
Breaking your leg cuz you skiing is not the blues.
Breaking your leg cuz an alligator be chomping on it is.
9. You can’t have no Blues in an office or a shopping mall.
The lighting is wrong.
Go outside to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster.
10. Good places for the Blues:
a. highway
b. jailhouse
c. empty bed
d. bottom of a whiskey glass
Bad places:
a. Ashrams
b. gallery openings
c. Ivy League institutions
d. golf courses
11. No one will believe it’s the Blues if you wear a suit, ‘less you happen to be an old ethnic person, and you slept in it.
12. Do you have the right to sing the Blues? Yes, if:
a. you’re older than dirt
b. you’re blind
c. you shot a man in Memphis
d. you can’t be satisfied
No, if:
a. you have all your teeth
b. you were once blind but now can see
c. the man in Memphis lived.
d. you have a retirement plan or trust fund.
13. Blues is not a matter of color.
It’s a matter of bad luck.
Tiger Woods cannot sing the blues. Gary Coleman could. Ugly white people also got a leg up on the blues.
2010 update : Tiger can nowadays sing the blues.
You know like this:
I got a good woman,
but she beats me with iron seven
Im f$^%ing everything whats moving
and I will not go to heaven.
and then some rhymes about stress – mistress etc.
14. If you ask for water and Baby give you gasoline, it’s the Blues.
Other acceptable Blues beverages are:
a. wine
b. whiskey or bourbon
c. muddy water
d. black coffee
The following are NOT Blues beverages:
a. mixed drinks
b. kosher wine
c. Snapple
d. sparkling water
15. If it occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it’s a Blues death.
Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another Blues way to die.
So is the electric chair, substance abuse, and dying lonely on a broken down cot.
You can’t have a Blues death if you die during a tennis match or getting liposuction.
16. Some Blues names for women:
a. Sadie
b. Big Mama
c. Bessie
d. Fat River Dumpling
17. Some Blues names for men:
a. Joe
b. Willie
c. Little Willie
d. Big Willie
18. Persons with names like Sierra, Sequoia, Auburn, and Rainbow can’t sing the Blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis.
19. Make your own Blues name (starter kit):
a. name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.)
b. first name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Kiwi,etc.)
c. last name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.)
For example, Blind Lime Jefferson, or Cripple Kiwi Fillmore, etc.
(Well, maybe not “Kiwi.”)
20. I don’t care how tragic your life: you own a computer, you cannot sing the blues. You best destroy it. Fire, a spilled bottle of Mad Dog, or get out a shotgun. I don’t care.
25 Sep 2012, 00:17 am
@Liewe Luiperd-281:
She’d be good for a few things…. not even including singing
25 Sep 2012, 00:25 am
@fitz1ella-280: Sheezus… come now…
I’ll take you all out to where the gypsy angels go
They’re build like light
And they dance like spirits in the night
Before I blow up the chicken man on Keo tonight,
And then I blow up his house too…
25 Sep 2012, 00:26 am
@victoriabok-282: Outstanding.
25 Sep 2012, 00:28 am
@Heavens Game-285:
How’s the Banshee?
Still keeping the Pretoria milf’s off you?
25 Sep 2012, 00:30 am
@victoriabok-282: well that means I got all the credentials to sing the blues.. I got every one of them back alley blind man traits that allow me to identify with Muddy Waters, Memphis Slim, Son House or Blind Lemon Jefferson .. shows you its true.. Darwin musta been right all roads lead back to Africa where Abraham and Gabriel decided that to kill a son on Highway Sixty One was a bad idea to begin with.
25 Sep 2012, 00:31 am
@Heavens Game-284:
He’s got one stuck in the chamber, we should get Dawn to help him out
25 Sep 2012, 00:32 am
@victoriabok-286: Banshee is away… Wekking velly hardt.
25 Sep 2012, 00:32 am
@victoriabok-282:
Great one.
@Heavens Game-256:
Bruce is great but Bob is farkin incomparable
Check what Bruce had to say about him:
“Dylan was – he was a revolutionary, man, the way that Elvis freed your body, Bob freed your mind. And he showed us that just because the music was innately physical, it did not mean that it was anti-intellect. He had the vision and the talent to expand a pop song until it contained the whole world. He invented a new way a pop singer could sound. He broke through the limitations of what a recording artist could achieve, and he changed the face of rock and roll forever and ever. Without Bob, the Beatles wouldn’t have made Sergeant Pepper, maybe the Beach Boys wouldn’t have made Pet Sounds, the *** Pistols wouldn’t have made ‘God Save the Queen,’ U2 would not etc..etc…..
So I’m just here tonight to say thanks, to say that I wouldn’t be here without you, to say that there isn’t a soul in this room who does not owe you their thanks. And to steal a line from one of your songs, whether you like it or not, ‘you was the brother that I never had.’ Congratulations.”
25 Sep 2012, 00:35 am
@Heavens Game-289:
Who are you working hard?
25 Sep 2012, 00:36 am
Humble is as humble does.. when a disciple knows who’s the master then he’s grown humble enough to step into the masters shoes…even if only for a couple steps before he needs the next crutch along the line.
25 Sep 2012, 00:40 am
@fitz1ella-292:
Do you have his new album?
25 Sep 2012, 00:41 am
These were the icons
Huddy Leadbetter
Robert Johnson
Son House
Muddy Waters
Howling Wolf
Chuck Berry
John Lee Hooker
Elvis Presley
Bob Dylan
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Marley
and then it all died round about then
nuthin much came after…
less you got a crowded house full of smashed up pumpkins or laughter
25 Sep 2012, 00:41 am
@Robzim-290: The Boss is humble to a fault…
Great words about the Joker… But even greater words about his friend Clarence Clemons…
A Eulogy:
From the first time I saw my pal striding out of the shadows of a half empty bar in Asbury Park, a path opening up before him; here comes my brother, here comes my sax man, my inspiration, my partner, my lifelong friend.
Standing next to Clarence was like standing next to the baddest *** on the planet. You were proud, you were strong, you were excited and laughing with what might happen, with what together, you might be able to do. You felt like no matter what the day or the night brought, nothing was going to touch you.
Clarence was big, and he made me feel, and think, and love, and dream big. How big was the Big Man? Too f.ucking big to die. And that’s just the facts.
You can put it on his grave stone, you can tattoo it over your heart… Clarence doesn’t leave the E Street Band when he dies. He leaves when we die…
25 Sep 2012, 00:42 am
@fitz1ella-294:
Hey Smashing Pumpkins were ok, saw them at Centurion Cricket ground
25 Sep 2012, 00:45 am
@victoriabok-293: which ? nope I don’t I doubt.
You should go see if you can catch Dylan and Knopfler in concert it should be a pretty extraordinary encounter. Knopfler is a genius in his own right almost as much as his elder brother Bob.. far more musically endowed where Dylan is the genius of the lyric Knopfler the genius of the fret board.
25 Sep 2012, 00:51 am
@fitz1ella-297:
Dylan’s new album “Tempest”, do you like it?
25 Sep 2012, 00:51 am
@victoriabok-291: Them Pretoria milfs… Work them hard, but they not very hard work…
Just say South African without it sounding Seffrican.. Sharks without sounding Shorks and then its the “jislaaik, I like foreign”… Easy peasy
25 Sep 2012, 01:00 am
@Heavens Game-299:
If the Banshee finds out she’ll cut off your “shork”
Die tannies is nie lui nie, hulle laai daai dêng kwaai
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