Frans fails late fitness test
28 Sep 2012
Frans Steyn has been ruled out of Saturday’s Test at Loftus having failed to recover sufficiently from an ankle injury.
This means Jean de Villiers will shift to 12, Jaco Taute will make his Test debut at 13, and Juan de Jongh will warm the bench.
Coenie Oosthuizen also failed a late fitness test and has been replaced by Pat Cilliers.
‘Frans went for a number of scans and X-rays this week and after specialist consultation it was decided that he should rather not play against Australia,’ said Springbok team doctor Craig Roberts. ‘Coenie, who played 35 minutes of rugby for the Free State Cheetahs last weekend, had stiffness in the neck and shoulder area after the game.
‘After sitting out training on Monday, he felt much better and took part in the field sessions on Tuesday and Wednesday, but based on the nature of his injury and the initial symptoms early in the week, we felt that it would be better to withdraw him from the Test. Coenie is a young player who has a lot of rugby ahead of him and with injuries like these it’s always better to gradually build him back to full match fitness.’
Springboks (revised) – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 Jean de Villiers, 12 Jaco Taute, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermuelen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Tiaan Liebenberg, 17 Pat Cilliers, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Marcel Coetzee, 20 Elton Jantjies, 21 Juan de Jongh, 22 Pat Lambie.
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28 Sep 2012, 18:24 pm
@XhosaKid-197: The only racist here is you, old pal. The sooner you accept this the sooner you can turn yourself around. It’s not too late.
28 Sep 2012, 18:24 pm
@XhosaKid-188: You don’t have to explain yourself boet…
28 Sep 2012, 18:27 pm
@XhosaKid-188: Was that a genuine spelling error or did you deliberately spell his name wrong?
28 Sep 2012, 18:27 pm
@katman-198: include Burden & D Fourie in there somewhere…
28 Sep 2012, 18:28 pm
@katman-198: Victor Matfield at scrumlock, directing traffic before releasing to the Brockster
28 Sep 2012, 18:29 pm
@theOracle-204: Definitely. Perhaps Spies at fullback and Burdon on the wing (isn’t that where he started out?)
And after Lions centre Jaco Kriel’s pick up and sprint to the line on Saturday, you’d have to put him in there too. He ran away from at least two Sharks backs.
28 Sep 2012, 18:34 pm
@XhosaKid-188: Blacks can also be racist?????
28 Sep 2012, 18:34 pm
@katman-206: I had Jaco Kriel’s name also on the bench… smoked a few backline players on Sat, I was especially impressed with his “die bus is vol chinas” on some of the sharkies
W Whitely can be also be on standby…
28 Sep 2012, 18:35 pm
@katman-206:
Spies at fullback? That should be fun. He’ll be dropping balls all afternoon.
28 Sep 2012, 18:35 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-203: I used the genuine or original spelling, in isiXhosa, ” Ro” sounds like ” Raw” inEnglish, whereas in Mandela’s case his name is Rholihlahla not ” Rawlihlahla”
28 Sep 2012, 18:38 pm
@I am a stormer-200:
Shane Watson is the player of the series so far.
28 Sep 2012, 18:39 pm
@ryecatcher-207: Any black guy who subscribes to that nonsense that blacks can’t be racist is talking absolute sh*t, we have racist everywhere, ignorance breeds racism, whether you are white or black, its a thin line.
28 Sep 2012, 18:40 pm
@XhosaKid-210: OK, thanks, I thought I’d always seen it spelt “Roh…”. Guess the Kid’s just educated the Boy!
28 Sep 2012, 18:40 pm
@Robzim-211:
Great cricketer ever since he moved to opening bat. Has hit a purple patch over the last 3 years or so.
28 Sep 2012, 18:41 pm
@XhosaKid-210: you don’t get that nowadays mfowethu… i can bet you that irhamba is now spelt iramba…
28 Sep 2012, 18:44 pm
@katman-198:
Let Bekker stay at wing. Kanko would make a better centre.
28 Sep 2012, 18:46 pm
@I am a stormer-214:
Nearly as devastating with the bat as Gillchrist used to be and no slouch with the ball either and very athletic in the field. Perfect player for this type of game.
28 Sep 2012, 18:49 pm
Siestog, na ‘n lang werksdag van ‘n kort werksweek sien ek die arme ou Proteas kan nie eens die Bokke help met ‘n wentjie as die DRUK so vir more se wedstryd opbou. Druk is ‘n nare ding, dit maak jou somtyds siek of jy doen snaakse dinge.
But seriously look at these stats. for they tell the whole sorry tale:
Econo.
D. Steyn 4 0 22 3 5.50 (2w)
M Morkel 3.4 0 33 0 9.00
Peterson 4 1 15 2 3.75
JA Morkel 2 0 26 0 13.00
J Botha 2 1 10 1 5.00
JP Duminy 2 0 5 1 2.50
JH Kallis 2 0 17 1 8.50
Look at the runs conceded, all the fasties lead that list; Morkels M & JA 33 & 26, Stain 22, Kallis 17.
Alternatively look at the bowling economies, the spinners all lead that list; Dumy 2.50, Peterson 3.75, Botha 5.0.
Bad captaincy? Not a damn, more like no captaincy at all as all the ‘boertjie groot breker’ bowlers appear to have decided for himself to bowl and seek the glory.
Does that not remind you of the mentality of the ‘rugby boertjie’?
‘ Onthou julle nog hy is mos in sy moertjie’?
28 Sep 2012, 18:52 pm
@katman-201: who’s this little Verwoerdian pseudo liberalism neo nazi arsehole trying to kid.. himself? just like that other dumb fck pseudo liberal white English outright fascist racist who goes around here by the name Brig. Balzebul these two faced fascist rats you can smell a goddamn mile off..
Xhosa kid is middle of the road pacifist liberal SA indigenous population incarnate.. and these pompous little two faced white displaced European racist rats wanna come laud it like they’re Lord fckng Muck on Toast on a goddamn rugby blog..
‘we won’t tolerate your black consciousness racism over HERE’ will we now..? you little runtcunt pseudo liberal outright white fascist pig in drag.
28 Sep 2012, 19:03 pm
@fitz1ella-219: Hey Skoppie, I missed you too, you senile old bedwetter. How’s that white guilt thing working for you? Still struggling to sleep at night? You bloody well should. How many decades did you have your snout in the trough? It’s going to take several dozen lifetimes of pseudo-liberal ranting on a rugby blog to wipe that sht out.
28 Sep 2012, 19:03 pm
De Jongh should have started.. NOT another heil Hitler little glory boy Heyneke groupie singing the vierkleur anthem in tandem .. so De Jongh and his patsy bench warming pals get to count the splinters they collect while little palsy walsy big boy Taute gets fast tracked up the corporate laager wagon ladder in preparation for the almighty heave ho familiar laden onward christian soldiers marching to the conformity traditional garbage heap..
don’t come crying if this latest attempt at trying to prove the last reichs still entrenched ideology that all silver blooded Aryans hold all the aces when it comes down to God’s own game falls flat on its one sided face…
28 Sep 2012, 19:08 pm
@fitz1ella-221: What do you know about this game, old man? Isn’t there a stamp collector’s blog somewhere that has an opening for a internet nutjob?
28 Sep 2012, 19:10 pm
@katman-220: no such thing as white guilt in these black blooded veins .. you too wet behind your pseudo little Verwoerdian supremacist ears to even begin to understand the difference between an outright racist such as yourself and one who don’t see anything reminiscent of a color coded rugby team. Of which Xhosakid leaves little pseudo enlightened white recriminating idiotic trash such as yourself in the shade.
28 Sep 2012, 19:14 pm
@katman-222: PLENTY more do I know about this game than fucknut little mighty white incriminating garbage such as you little boertjie from the wrong side of the tracks learned in your Roodepoort mine dump environment. Plenty more do I KNOW about this game than you EVER learn in your wet behind the ears pseudo enlightened little fuckwit brain
28 Sep 2012, 19:14 pm
@XhosaKid-188:
Revealing in an unbiased manner racist reactions in speech or the written word or inference or attitude or mentality or more does not make you, by any stretch of the imagination, even vaguely anti-white, it simply makes you anti-racist .
Their over-reaction, however, is highly questionable for you do expose racists who with our almost ’400 year history’, just happen to mostly be ingrained in those with mostly Euro- heritage.
The absence and /or lack of control they have been so used to for so long frustrates them to the point of destructive behaviour especially when the sport scene they seek solace in, like a drug, does not go their way.
All you need to look at is who responds and in what numbers and with what anger.
28 Sep 2012, 19:19 pm
I think the need to bring back quotas. White coaches cannot be trusted cause they only watch white clubs, schools and universities.
28 Sep 2012, 19:20 pm
@fitz1ella-221:
> that all silver blooded Aryans
Most Afrikaans families have a percentage of non-white blood, so they won’t qualify to be Aryans
28 Sep 2012, 19:25 pm
@victoriabok-227: try get them to acknowledge it.. this little white supremacist runtcunt Verwoerd offspring garbage here called katmakunt reckons he’s absolute pure bred Aryan supremacist from the Nordic wastelands of Valhalla itself…
anyway am out to go see if Bullbefok can smack sharkshits in the guppietank.
28 Sep 2012, 19:29 pm
Whenever I see blood(flowing or dried-up) it is “non-white” . Is it not always some shade of the colour red?
Is it expected to be white? Or even gold(as some OFS students thought it was)?
28 Sep 2012, 19:32 pm
Ek dink nie egte Kaapenaars soek VictoriaPoshSpice tipe nie, want hulle lieg te veel wanneer dit hulle toepas.
28 Sep 2012, 19:32 pm
@theOracle-215: The people of Rharhabe and now Rarabe, and rhoqo ( always) is now roqo
28 Sep 2012, 19:34 pm
@victoriabok-227:
I forget the name of the book now, but when it came out in the 1970s showing the mixed bloodlines of the majority of Afrikaans families, it caused an absolute riot of denialism.
For some reason, it’s now a sign of non racism to almost boast about the fact.
If only that was the case 60 years ago.
28 Sep 2012, 19:34 pm
What colour is ” non-white blood” then?
Sometimes purple, hence the Purple-people eaters from up north in the OFS?
28 Sep 2012, 19:36 pm
@David-232:
Is it not too obviouly opportunistic to claim it now when it was vehemently denied then?
Is rejection that damaging?
28 Sep 2012, 19:38 pm
@fitz1ella-223: Fear, ignorance and inidequacy leads to racism, when Katman overcomes these, he will be a free man, now he is just slaving to fit in. He is yet to realize what’s the power of freedom, real freedom.
28 Sep 2012, 19:40 pm
@Mostofyou-225: Case closed.
28 Sep 2012, 19:46 pm
@XhosaKid-236:
My closing sentence, added to what is already there, should have been : Those are the racists.
28 Sep 2012, 19:49 pm
@David-232: @David-232:
Prof J A Heese “Die Herkoms van die Afrikaner”
28 Sep 2012, 19:51 pm
@katman-185: LOL … Coetzee reminds you of Cullen .. what games you been watching or otherwise you never saw Cullen play. He was a once in a life time player, and Coetzee is just a run of the mill CC player.
28 Sep 2012, 20:00 pm
@Mostofyou-233: are you talking about the Griffons ???
!!!!
28 Sep 2012, 20:04 pm
What about the coloureds, I say.
28 Sep 2012, 20:06 pm
@XhosaKid-240:
Yes, that very racist team of that time.
But I am merely mocking the stupid words “non-white blood” of the verkrampte Viccie PoshSpice.
28 Sep 2012, 22:26 pm
@victoriabok-227: My wifes father,a Cloete
with connections toGroot Constantia,used to say that people
who did not have coloured blood were too poor to afford slaves
No offence intended.That is what he said.In fact there is a
township on the outskirts of Stellenbosch named Cloeteville.Let us be
proud of our bloodlines,mixed of te not..
28 Sep 2012, 22:29 pm
@XhosaKid-235: I quite like Katman.
But then I am a maverick.Go Sharks.
28 Sep 2012, 22:52 pm
@ryecatcher-243:
I’ve read a book written around 2006, I can’t remember the title, I think it was “die Slawegeskiedenis van die Kaap” or something similar, very interesting
The one lady had a vegetable garden, and once set free immediately bought herself a slave to help with the work
It’s history, and it can’t be changed, most people have accepted it and went on with their lives, others are still stuck in the past
28 Sep 2012, 23:07 pm
@victoriabok-245: Thankyou.I have heard
it said thay BC is very beautiful.My comment was sincere but also
motivated by what I saw as being “The Keo Victims Hour”Indeed time
for us to get on with our lives.
Have been watching the Ryder Cup.Whilst I know that USA is very
competitive,I could not tolerate the crowds behaviour of shouting
the mantra”USA,USA ” after every bad European play.
Canada?Toute a fait superieure.Goodnight
28 Sep 2012, 23:19 pm
@ryecatcher-246:
It is very beautiful, if you like big trees, forests, streams and mountains
Some guys want to be victims, they can’t move on
“Unforgivingness is like drinking poison and believing the other person will die.”
The Americans are loud but they’ve earned the bragging rights, unsporting behaviour however is never justified
28 Sep 2012, 23:58 pm
@victoriabok-247: Thank you & goodnight
29 Sep 2012, 02:41 am
@victoriabok-245:
“The one lady had a vegetable garden, and once set free immediately bought herself a slave to help with the work”
Like Mandela neh. When he got out of jail, he had a “butlertjie” to help him with the work in the garden in.
29 Sep 2012, 02:49 am
@victoriabok-247:
“Unforgivingness is like drinking poison and believing the other person will die.”
You have to explain this one.
Keep in mind that SOME Afrikaners, to this day, never forgave the English for the AB war.
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