Preview: Boks vs Wallabies
28 Sep 2012
JON CARDINELLI previews the Rugby Championship battle at Loftus Versfeld and picks a winner.
How can we lose to this Wallabies side? Yes, I know, it was the same question I asked when I previewed the Test in Perth. But come on, how did the Boks blow a 13-3 advantage and lose to a side sans so many Test stars?
Surely it can’t happen again. For starters, the Wallabies are even worse off in terms of personnel, as Will Genia and Quade Cooper are no longer available. Then there’s the welcome fact that this Test will be played at Loftus, a venue that has never witnessed a Wallabies victory.
So let’s rephrase the question. Instead of asking, how the Boks can lose to this rudderless bunch of B-teamers, let’s ask, what makes this Wallabies side believe they can win at Loftus for the first time in 50 years of trying?
Do they have the pack? Certainly not. The statistics show that they are one of the weakest and most penalised teams in the competition as far as scrumming is concerned. They may boast a lineout master in Nathan Sharpe, but that set piece is not exactly spoiled for options and Tatafu-Polota Nau is notorious for failing to find his jumpers.
How about the breakdowns and mauls? The Boks have lacked discipline in this area if we consider the overall stats for the tournament, but there was a marked improvement in that previous Test in Dunedin. They seem to be settling as a forward unit, and produced a far more powerful and accurate showing in this area.
They will threaten the Wallabies when they maul from the lineout. And now that they’re fielding a more balanced back row, they will enjoy dominance at the collisions on attack, and trouble the Wallabies when the visitors take the ball into contact. In this respect, except the versatile Francois Louw to thrive as a ball-stealer and momentum-killer.
The performance of the pack is all important. The Boks need to establish dominance up front and slow the Wallabies down if they are going to record their first win against Australasian opposition in 2012. There should be no change in tactics, no matter who starts at flyhalf. Playing expansively will only play into the Wallabies’ hands.
The spotlight is on Johan Goosen when it should really be on the Bok pack as a collective. If they can overpower their Aussie counterparts, and men like Louw can prevent the Wallabies halfbacks from getting quick ball, then the Boks will have the opportunity to implement their game plan.
The Bok pack laid this platform in Dunedin, and were unfortunately let down by their halfbacks. Ruan Pienaar and new flyhalf Goosen will need to deliver a sharper showing at Loftus, both in terms of option-taking and execution. They should look to steer play into the opposition half, and when they do move the ball, Goosen will be under pressure to create space for his outside backs.
It’s is so damn obvious it’s almost a crime to say it, but the Boks need to take their opportunities this weekend. The Wallabies are the cockroaches of Test rugby (and I mean that as a compliment). They’re the kings of ugly wins. They’re capable of sustaining the most savage of beatings up front and somehow surviving to eke out undeserved victories.
The bottom line is that the Boks must kick their goals and convert their try-scoring chances. In this respect, Heyneke Meyer will be asking for more of the same from his forwards, that is a performance that will lay the platform, and far more from his halfbacks Pienaar and Goosen.
The Boks shouldn’t lose this game, but it is a possibility. They blew two great opportunities to win Down Under, and it is because of those mental lapses that they won’t take anything for granted at Loftus.
I’m not excusing those soft moments, but I am saying that the second-half performance in Pretoria will be under scrutiny. Playing in front of a partisan crowd should help in the last minutes of the game, as no matter the scoreline, a contest with Aussies is always in the balance until the final whistle.
But I believe they will pass the test. There is too much quality in that Bok side, and a fair bit of experience, for them to lose at home. To what degree they win is the real question. I’m not expecting a clinical performance, but I am expecting them to do enough to give South African supporters a reason to smile for the first time in two months.
PREDICTION: Boks by 10
Springboks – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 Jaco Taute, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermuelen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Tiaan Liebenberg, 17 Coenie Oosthuizen, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Marcel Coetzee, 20 Elton Jantjies, 21 Juan de Jongh, 22 Pat Lambie.
Wallabies – 15 Berrick Barnes, 14 Dominic Shipperley, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Pat McCabe, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Kurtley Beale, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Radike Samo, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Dave Dennis, 5 Nathan Sharpe (c), 4 Kane Douglas, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Tatafu Polota Nau, 1 Benn Robinson
Subs: 16 Saia Fainga’a, 17 James Slipper, 18 Rob Simmons, 19 Scott Higginbotham, 20 Liam Gill, 21 Brett Sheehan, 22 Anthony Fainga’a
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150 Comments
27 Sep 2012, 11:56 am
Should be more than 10
27 Sep 2012, 12:08 pm
If they lose on saturday Meyer will be shafted.
Thats my prediction.
27 Sep 2012, 12:15 pm
Aus Dragons have opted for a 5 / 2 split on the bench. Beale, Barnes & AAC can play multiple positions
27 Sep 2012, 12:21 pm
@Hammer-2: Don’t agree, that would be very unfair.
The man has made certain changes that the whole country has been clamouring for and should therefore not be castigated when they lose to the current No 2s in the world.
27 Sep 2012, 12:23 pm
@2-Hammer
Oddly It is a paradox to say that it is too (early or late) to do that. The quality’s suddenly there – Duane, Louw, Goosen, an in form Habana, Alberts, Frans. HM needs to go forth on THIS path
27 Sep 2012, 12:41 pm
If we win the breakdown we’ll win the match… Aussies always play the refs interpretation on the day and we get our panties in a twist.
27 Sep 2012, 12:43 pm
@viewer-5: There are still more first choice players to join the squad in future. JPP, Brussouw, Bismarck, Burger.
Would of liked CJ maybe to get a bench spot. He is experienced and in his prime as a prop. Or did he just return from injury like Coenie?
27 Sep 2012, 12:44 pm
Just imagine we had Bismarck against Aus and Nz overseas. Would that have made the difference?
27 Sep 2012, 12:46 pm
Pretoria the past few days has had great weather. Not a cloud in the sky. We could see a high scoring fixture
27 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
@Lions_Soutie-6: You hit the nail on the head, Boet.
27 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm
@Sasuke-7: CJ is hond kak – he adds nothing other than caps…
27 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm
@7 Sasuke. True, it appears a bounty of success is about to fall onto HM’s lap
27 Sep 2012, 13:02 pm
Boks, with Bekker and Etzebeth as starting locks, look to have a very formidable forward pack.
The new Victor and Bakkies………………………………………time will tell.
This is close to the Bok side I would select.
27 Sep 2012, 13:22 pm
i’m gonna sit this one out…
27 Sep 2012, 13:52 pm
put Lambie at 15 and then i will be happy
27 Sep 2012, 13:53 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-10: Refs are ignoring skew scrum feeds again and aren’t allowing the attacking team time to place the ball. Fetchers have a role to play, fortunately we have Louw this time.
Spies must be relieved not to be playing so that no one can blame him.
27 Sep 2012, 13:57 pm
@cane-13: I’m still not 100% convinced with Etzebeth. He is a physical freak but fear we are rushing him too soon. Bekker has got some competition for the position which will do him well.
27 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
Any news on JPP? I wonder if Meyer will select Hougaard at 11 or 9 when he returns?
27 Sep 2012, 14:00 pm
How ancient Samo can start ahead of Higginbotham is beyond me.
27 Sep 2012, 14:06 pm
@ Lions Soutie
Hell, 20 y.o; 2 metres tall; ±120 kg & a single digit body fat percentage !
27 Sep 2012, 14:21 pm
Since they only have 2 backs on the bench, Id like for Duane to bring the pain to one of the Aussie backs early in the game. 2 would be better.
27 Sep 2012, 14:24 pm
@Lions_Soutie-16: Agreed, it seems to be going in under the locks’ feet more often than not.
Another thing is also the skew lineout feeds.
And what gets me the most is when the occasional ref blows the flanks for putting their hands on the ground at scrumtime, I mean, FFS where’s the oke supposed to put his outside arm???
Crazy.
27 Sep 2012, 14:29 pm
@RainbowBanana-18:
JPP should be available next week but I doubt he’ll be slected without any gametime.
27 Sep 2012, 14:32 pm
Boks never win when it really matters. They need to win away. Fact is, they f—– up big time overseas: draw, loss, loss. I don’ think a win at Loftus against a weak Wallaby side means much, and I don’t think we should fool ourselves that it does.
27 Sep 2012, 14:38 pm
Cane, there’s nothing ‘formidable’ about the Bok pack. Give me a break. When last have they out scrummed, out-played, out-muscled anyone. And then, if they have, there’s the little matter of winning. They don’t win.
27 Sep 2012, 14:49 pm
Aaah ok so why bother coming and posting if a win a against a weak Wallaby side doesnt count or matter ? Any win at Bok level matters .. as does a loss !
27 Sep 2012, 15:06 pm
Anybody know whose reffing this clash of the overrated Southern Hemisphere titans?
27 Sep 2012, 15:41 pm
@27: Allain Rolland is the referee
27 Sep 2012, 16:25 pm
I am expecting a big victory for the Boks.
I wasn’t expecting a victory until the team was announced.
27 Sep 2012, 17:03 pm
Jp pietersen is available EOYT… So is ralepelle,burger,spies and smith
27 Sep 2012, 17:41 pm
If the Wallabies win this Test I will write complimentary posts about Pooper.
27 Sep 2012, 18:13 pm
Most of the Boks are sea level based players, no advantage in this department
The Wallabies are woeful and Beale at 10 makes them even worse, the Referee already collectewd his Test ‘fees’ into his off shore acc.
Jantjie and JdJ to provide the entertainment, Kirchner will provide the turnovers
Boks by 16 point and above.
27 Sep 2012, 18:18 pm
@xtremebull-30:
If Smith is off overseas, I doubt whether HM will pick him, especially as he won’t be match fit.
27 Sep 2012, 18:18 pm
Sweet Revenge will be the order of the day. Beef up the braai and unchain the HiFi.
27 Sep 2012, 18:19 pm
@xtremebull-30:
Oh, and Spies is also out until next year. You should really keep up with the news.
27 Sep 2012, 18:30 pm
@xtremebull-30:
I wouldn’t go holding your breath over Jian Smith making the team.
Burger is also a gooner for the rest of the year.
I have a funny feeling it may be even worse than that.
27 Sep 2012, 21:22 pm
“let’s ask, what makes this Wallabies side believe they can win at Loftus for the first time in 50 years of trying?”
50 years may sound an astonishingly long time until one remembers that this will be only the SIXTH time of trying.
No comparision to, say, 24 times of trying in just 10 more years for the Welsh to beat the Blacks since their last triumph.
27 Sep 2012, 21:27 pm
And ironically it will be also the sixth time of trying for the Boks to taste the victory vs those wily Ozzies. 5 straight losses in half a century in one venue vs 5 straight losses in mere 2 years.
27 Sep 2012, 21:51 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-4:
If Bok were to lose this weekend then Meyer should be held to account. He has selected the team that should do the job and the only weaknesses I see is the inexperience at five eight, yet wonderful potential, and Meyers own reluctance to engage his backline without resorting to an endless kick and chase, which I could be wrong about, yet I have this nagging feeling that Meyer will not change the gameplan and will continue down the same path because he feels closeted in the security of playing at his Loftus.
27 Sep 2012, 22:02 pm
@Te Rangatira-39: I’m hoping that Goosen will simply refuse to kick the ball as much as Morne, and Meyer won’t be able to hold it against him if the Boks are winning.
27 Sep 2012, 22:14 pm
@gunther-36: Juan reportedly looking at a Top 14 move, sounds like he’s ready to cash out
27 Sep 2012, 22:21 pm
@kaksioek-40:
Me too, heres hoping Goosen has a good game, firstly nailing his kicks for goal, secondly putting his outsides into space, thirdly applying consistent pressure with his kicks, fourthly look after his body and tackle only when necessary.
28 Sep 2012, 01:52 am
Goosen destined to become the Quade Cooper of South African rugby..
I see many people are talking of plus 15 point win for the Bokkes, these same people suggested a 20 point win for the ABs a few weeks ago..
talk about the tail wagging the dog..
Aussies to win by 12, Beale a revelation for them at 1st 5/8 and they have a forward pack that will compete., coupled with Coopers outbursts bringing the team together while overseas… these type of things tend to unify a side..
@kaksioek-31: start getting the superlatives ready… thanks in advance..
28 Sep 2012, 02:24 am
@Sasuke-8:
Nope, not at all.
@Nils-37:
lol, 50 years = 6 games.
Way to make it sound alot more impressive.
28 Sep 2012, 02:49 am
@Sasuke-8: NO
28 Sep 2012, 02:52 am
@poppa69-43: Hey Poppa – right on my man. So if the Boks lose (and I am picking the Aussies to win) just wait for the moaning and whingeing to start – it will be the refs fault – always happens. I say this because the gameplan is not going to change and the Aussies will just love running it back at them. Go the wallabies
28 Sep 2012, 02:53 am
@Nils-37: Hey mate I think you have got this one wrong re: the AB’s vs Wales. The Welsh last one a test against the AB’s in 1953 – thats over 60years ago, not sure where you get your stats from. 60years is much better than 50 and only 6 attempts…..I wonder who the better team is?
28 Sep 2012, 02:55 am
@Hondo-32: well just as I thought…Jappies cant get away from blaming a ref – any ref – I guess it is just to cover your insecurities and your closed-eye view of rugby. The Boks will be beat, mark my words, BEAT by a Team with more injured players than anyone else…
28 Sep 2012, 02:57 am
@Trevorr-25: Hear hear Trevorr – I cant believe the posts out of Jappie-land saying how great the Bok pack was in Dunedin, I saw the game and I actually think if was about 50/50….but of course the AB’s showed their superior fitness and finishing – end of story Jappies…
28 Sep 2012, 03:00 am
@poppa69-43: Kia ora poppa, you don’t serious believe that, do you?
Looking at it objectively rather than simply trying to wind people up, this Aussie side is seriously weakened by injuries, and playing away from home. They are up against a very abrasive forward pack (as evidenced by the Dunedin game, where the Bok forwards edged the AB’s) and a backline that is pretty good defensively if unexciting on attack. The Boks must be odds on favourites to win this.
There has been nothing to suggest that Goosen is flakey, actually the young man looks extremely solid. Pat Lambie is another kettle of fish – he has looked flakey at full back when under pressure, but Pat Lambie isn’t playing!
No, I don’t think you believe the Aussies will win by 12, how could you?
28 Sep 2012, 03:03 am
@JohnPierre-49: To me, the Bok forwards had a clear edge in some areas of play (they got over the gainline on the crash ball, we didn’t; their maul made plenty of metres, ours made none; they secured more turnover ball at the breakdown than us). On the other hand, we clearly won the lineout battle, we won the scrums in the last 20 mins, and our forwards were more skillful in the loose (e.g. in the build up to the Dagg try).
My assessment would be 52/48 to the Boks overall, giving them a slight edge but not decisive.
28 Sep 2012, 04:06 am
According to the stats the Boks got dusted a bit in the scrums and line outs, but cleaned up in the mauls and did better on turnovers. Bok’s conceded more penalties. Other than the Bok’s mauling success, their big win was in the turnovers (14 vs 9), but they gave that possession back in lost scrums, lost lineouts, and penalties. AB’s will want to look at the turnovers before the return match I am picking, and Boks will look at discipline and set pieces, but not much between the two packs in total.
28 Sep 2012, 06:14 am
Not sure where this guy is getting a 15pt win from. The Aussies are a stronger team than that. Beale is extremely dangerous and wont be kicking it everytime, he’s one of the best attacking players in the world. The Aussie forwards, while not dominating have done enough to compete and get their backline ball. If the Boks win it wont be by 15pts, it’ll be a tight tight game
28 Sep 2012, 06:35 am
@52…Aliboy…the Abs conceded some weak turnovers in that game, remember Messam getting held up in a maul,Savea becoming isoleted,Cruden missing touch from a penalty
28 Sep 2012, 06:41 am
The little mistakes allowed the Abs to gain no momentum thus applying no concerted pressure
28 Sep 2012, 07:59 am
@Te Rangatira-39: Agree with you about not using his backline and his endless kick and chase tactics, but he can’t be nailed for putting inexperience in the side at this point in time.
I read a report last night which said that young Goosen has alledgedly been told to: “play it as you see it,” and if that is true then we’re in for some surprises, methinks.
28 Sep 2012, 08:08 am
@corporal punishment-50: Poppa was probably very anxious during the NZ game. His forwards took a battering. Must have praised the gods for Morne Steyn’s poor kicking performance.
The Boks have been improving since the Argentina away game, they should win tomorrow. They must adapt to the ref’s interpretation or lose.
28 Sep 2012, 08:11 am
@Lions_Soutie-57: not at all, your boys were desperate and ours started to believe the press… come the return match, our forwards will be up for it, and should ensure the same result..
Goosen will be a shattered man after this weekend, his future in tatters as the Aussies continue to swamp his channel..
feel for the young man, Im guessing he wont last the whole game, oh wait, he hasnt played a full game in how long? now hes carrying the nation on his shoulders?
eish… love the way hes being managed, truly… what a waste of talent..
28 Sep 2012, 08:13 am
Pierre Spies will not travel to Europe with the Springboks in November due to the slow recovery of a finger injury.
Spies underwent successful surgery on the fracture to the joint in his finger in August and was hence ruled out of the Rugby Championship has been on a rehabilitation programme and running at Loftus since.On Thursday the Bulls captain confirmed that he will be sidelined for the remainder of the year.”I was hoping to [play again this year], but the finger is healing slowly, so next year is more likely,” Spies told SuperSport.The news will come as blow for Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer, who is short on options at number eight since Ryan Kankowski’s departure for Japan.
28 Sep 2012, 08:14 am
Pierre Spies
will not travel to Europe with the Springboks in November due to the slow recovery of a finger injury.
Spies underwent successful surgery on the fracture to the joint in his finger in August and was hence ruled out of the Rugby Championship has been on a rehabilitation programme and running at Loftus since.On Thursday the Bulls captain confirmed that he will be sidelined for the remainder of the year.
I was hoping to [play again this year], but the finger is healing slowly, so next year is more likely, Spies told SuperSport.The news will come as blow for Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer, who is short on options at number eight since Ryan Kankowski’s departure for Japan.
28 Sep 2012, 08:17 am
Blarry mobile mod does my tits in! Not posted, not posted, posted… Make up ur uncompatible mind!
Enjoy ur extended recovery Spies! We are all sure u will come back a new found player under Meyere.. Literally.. Morne on top..
TFIF
28 Sep 2012, 08:24 am
“They’re capable of sustaining the most savage of beatings up front and somehow surviving to eke out undeserved victories.”
I can’t agree, that is even more deserved win. That is like streetfight where big baddie pounds other guy with his big fists left, right, center and yet he somehow stays on his feet and then kicks him in the balls to make baddie fall like sack. Undeserved my arse.
28 Sep 2012, 08:27 am
All I am looking forwartd s not hearing the same old poepolle on here moaning about Morne. Was getting really tired of it.
28 Sep 2012, 08:34 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-63: Kan nou konsentreer om oor Krusty te moan!
28 Sep 2012, 08:36 am
@Guns-61:
28 Sep 2012, 08:37 am
Day three of strike
So far so good
Aluta continua
28 Sep 2012, 08:41 am
@Guns-59: Hallelujah.Praise be to the Spies finger injury. The great man has been through the wars- what a grevious, crippling wound to incur (outside the field of duty).
28 Sep 2012, 08:43 am
@corporal punishment-50:
CP when it comes to South Africa pops have zero objectivity, he is too busy returning serve.
28 Sep 2012, 09:08 am
@Dawn-66: You at home?
28 Sep 2012, 09:10 am
@Spiesisworthless1-67: Point in case see post 63. Watching rugby where Spies is involved must be hell for you as your eyes cannot move beyond his every move so you can moan like an old dried up Pretoria west tart.
28 Sep 2012, 09:12 am
@trupisero-64: Ja nee kyk die ding maak my fokking klaar!!@Slartibartfast-68: Groet jy nie fokker?
28 Sep 2012, 09:15 am
Hate being in a position to write off an Ausie side. They are sneaky critters and always surprise you. How many times have we seen this movie before?
You cant help being forced into thinking that a Bok side should beat this Ausie side at altitude though. I mean, they dont have 5 of their very best players. Horwill, Oconnor, Genia, Oconner and Moore!
Should be a Bok win but these little ******** are crafty.
28 Sep 2012, 09:15 am
@stormersboy-69:
Indeed
Showing solidarity
28 Sep 2012, 09:16 am
*b a st ards
28 Sep 2012, 09:20 am
@Dawn-73: Wow. enjoy the cricket!
28 Sep 2012, 09:20 am
@John Galt-72: Biggest name missing is Pockock…biggest threat to Boks for sure!
28 Sep 2012, 09:22 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-70: It’s hell for the team I support; watching a 7 man Bok pack over the last few years has been pretty grim. Spies, like Steyn, has been dragged along for far too long. Next Bull to walk the plank is Sideshow Bob.
28 Sep 2012, 09:24 am
@72 John Halt…if the Aussies can deliver on those flat passes with their ball runners hitting holes
then they are a chance
28 Sep 2012, 09:26 am
the only way the ozzies could win this, is if the boks once again blow chance after chance. that is how it was in our past 3 losses to these okes.
If this is sorted…..the ozzies will get hurt badly.
If not, we could once again lose.
the boks need to start well and get some points on the board quickly to settle the nerves.
28 Sep 2012, 09:27 am
The closest I ever came to physically abusing a female was when I punched a oke from crusaders in deben during a club game.
Oh my sack those okes squeel like chicks.
Where is Skeppie,I need some answers.
28 Sep 2012, 09:29 am
So glad they caught the scum who murdered Corrie Sanders. To shoot and kill a man who is lying over his daughter to protect her is the most cowardly and despicable act. They are less than human, and I wish we could hang them high.
Remember this moment? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqEANlBbhsA
28 Sep 2012, 09:30 am
Why is this entire thread in bold? The interweb in a foul mood this morning, or can I blame it on Heyneke Meyer?
What’s with the writing the Wallabies off again? Honestly, one would think we never lose to the Wallabies ***rollingeyes***.
Sneaky little fur ball Wobblies have our number, our address and our bank account to boot. Yes, at altitude, with this run on team we have a fair chance of beating them, but this “we will, we should” beat them – is totalkakandfantasy considering our recent and fuckingshameful record against them.
28 Sep 2012, 09:34 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-82: We have been their b*tches for some time now. Hopefully tomorrow we can begin correcting that sad state of affairs!
28 Sep 2012, 09:34 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-79: Yeah,I’m hoping the Bok backline will look pretty slick with Goosen commanding it,expecting JdV to come into his own too.
28 Sep 2012, 09:36 am
@katman-81: Dude I can’t even begin to express the things I’ve done to those ***** in my head a thousand times
Barbaric backward farkin animals who should be butchered for dog food.
It’s the minority of scum dragging the rest of the country down with them
28 Sep 2012, 09:38 am
@85
The less the gov is doing the more the people are going to take law into their own hands.About a month ago a oke was beaten to death for stealing clothes from washing lines.
Police asked some questions and no one saw or heard anything.
Beautifull
28 Sep 2012, 09:41 am
@72.John Galt
You really rate that O´Connor chappy. You reckon the Aussies are going to miss him twice?
28 Sep 2012, 09:47 am
@umfezi-87:
Ha, sorry meant Cooper.
@Superbru-76:
Sheez how did I leave him out!? Huge loss.
Seriously if the Boks dont take this there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.
28 Sep 2012, 09:50 am
@katman-81: Farking cowards are not even from here. Was going to play with him in a golf day on the 18th. Sad indeed.
28 Sep 2012, 09:52 am
@Superbru-84: Bud JdV is hanging on by skin on his teeth. His saving grace is the captaincy. Gives us fackall on attack.
28 Sep 2012, 09:52 am
http://keo.co.za/2012/09/28/preview-boks-vs-wallabies/comment-page-2/#comment-2236930:
True, we really should win this one comfortably. As you said, though, the Aussies are crafty little critters, so we´ll still hve to play well.
28 Sep 2012, 09:53 am
@Atreides-85: Ja, it’s crazy how cheap life has become to some people. They view their own lives as wasted and therefore disposable, so they can’t imagine that for someone else life has so much value, with family and friends and love. They can’t start to see the big hole they leave when they mockingly say “shoot the big one” and pull the trigger.
28 Sep 2012, 09:55 am
Sorry brus and sistas, I´m new here. Whip me wif a blender and call me thick, but how the hell do I reply to a comment so that just the poster and post number link shows – like in all the other reply posts?
28 Sep 2012, 09:56 am
@umfezi-93: Little return arrow on the right
28 Sep 2012, 09:59 am
I see the SAP has decided not to charge the baby black for rape,charges has been dropped.I wish him all of the best for his future and hope he can put this very unfortuante incident behind him.Charges must be laid against the female who made these allegations.
28 Sep 2012, 10:01 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-94: Thanks. Didn´t even see the thing.
28 Sep 2012, 10:01 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-82: True, true ,true but that will all change this weekend. Our forwards will apply some consistency and our recent fragile mental make up will hold with the clean highveld air.
28 Sep 2012, 10:05 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-90: Hi Kwagga, yes I know but he is not a natural 13 imo. Although I’d like Frans Steyn to play, it will be interesting to see Taute next to JdV: the only problem – they’ve never played together
28 Sep 2012, 10:09 am
SA should win this encounter, simply because they should.
History tells me that.
But Dear Lord, what is this notion that it will be as a result of Goosen.
So I assume if the unexpected happens, it will be Goosen’s fault as well?
Just how broad do you expect your youngsters shoulders to be?
28 Sep 2012, 10:09 am
@97 Skeppie
Please respond to post #80
Thank you
28 Sep 2012, 10:09 am
@Fern-95: Was that in a SA or NZ newspaper ? I agree with you about the female with her allegations: could have ruined his life !! I suppose it has already damaged his image
28 Sep 2012, 10:10 am
NZ newspaper CharlesM
28 Sep 2012, 10:11 am
@Dawn-66:
how can your boss tell the difference?
28 Sep 2012, 10:12 am
@Fern-95:
Why did it take so long for a decision to be made?
28 Sep 2012, 10:12 am
too late gunther sy is by die tyd seker al lankal paralatic.
28 Sep 2012, 10:13 am
No idea Brads,hopefully this will bring closure for the youngster.
28 Sep 2012, 10:13 am
@Fern-102: Thanks Fern
28 Sep 2012, 10:15 am
TAB has SA by 6.5. I bet on SA by more than 6.5.
28 Sep 2012, 10:19 am
@Fern-106:
Sad really.
Once the press got a hold of the story the the movers and shakers looking into the incident presumably went all out to make sure all the angles were explored.
All the while the the fellow is assumed guilty in the minds of the average Joe.
28 Sep 2012, 10:20 am
Very sad Brads,her name should now be published by the newspapers,its only fair.
28 Sep 2012, 10:21 am
@Skeppie-97: howzit bud.
had a pint at saders last night.
still a great club.
28 Sep 2012, 10:24 am
howzit ranger
saders a great club
pft
when I down in the valley again I will invite you for a Bluff dumpie at Quins.
28 Sep 2012, 10:25 am
@CharlesM-98: Howzit Charles. We’ll need to start settling a combination sooner rather than later. Only problem is this combo should be ‘manufactured’ to an extent as no current combo within the S15 franchises really grabs the attention.
We have a similar problem at 4 and 5
28 Sep 2012, 10:25 am
@gunther-36:
Schalk’s playing for arsenal?????!!!!!
28 Sep 2012, 10:26 am
@Fern-112: haha, i enjoy quins too bud.
bit of a drive though, saders is close and the club bar has an awesome vibe when its happening.
i really enjoy it.
28 Sep 2012, 10:27 am
@munkiboi-108:
The New Zealand TAB has Aus at $3.10 to pull off a win, while SA is expected to win with a pay out of $1.33 per $1
Which is pretty much where I think the likely outcome will be, but I also expect the Aussies to get a bonus point, by losing within 7.
A late flourish by the Wallabies is my prediction.
28 Sep 2012, 10:28 am
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/7744363/No-charges-against-Baby-Black-over-rape-allegation
ranger you know that a bluff dumpie is a quart of beer hey?
28 Sep 2012, 10:28 am
fark, the rain has started here in pinetown.
this is upsetting. the sea is clean and diveable for the first time in a month but this rain will screw that up sharpish.
gonna have to knock off at 13h00
28 Sep 2012, 10:29 am
@Fern-117: ja.
we call it a zululand dumpie but same same.
drank those dumpies last night at saders. very pleasant.
28 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
@rangerman-111: Warms my heart Ranger….I dont get to see the club much now that I live up in the big smoke.
28 Sep 2012, 10:30 am
ranger,wont there be a lot of johhny’s around?
A 7 day cruise up to moz is on the books for dec,celebrating a mates bday in maputo.never been,stopping at some island aswell.
28 Sep 2012, 10:32 am
Skeppie,you okes were a bunch of metros exual soft c ocks back in the day when we played you okes.
closests i ever came to playing clubrugby in the cape:-)
28 Sep 2012, 10:32 am
@Fern-112: Fern Fern fern…Ranger is a classy man. Why would he settle for a Bluff Dumpie?
28 Sep 2012, 10:34 am
@Fern-122: HAHAHA Come on Fern at least tell me what years you played.
28 Sep 2012, 10:34 am
Skeppie sure he is classy in his league.
Chunt du Fernly however is the pinnacle of class,manners,looks,wit,humour and kindness.
28 Sep 2012, 10:35 am
94 to 98
28 Sep 2012, 10:36 am
“I look into their eyes, shake their hand, pat their back and wish them luck, but inside I am thinking: I am going to bury you!”
- Steve Ballesteros on the Ryder Cup
Ha ha, Go Europe.
28 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
OZ blogs pleased with their crowd attendances.They say they have
more people attending(and heres the rub)PER CAPITA.thanSA.or NZ
28 Sep 2012, 10:37 am
@Fern-95: I told you this would be the case the day it was reported, and I believe I got a lot of stick from people who were feeling desperately sorry for the silly tartlet.
It’s about time these young jamtarts chicks were held accountable for their actions and allegations…..
28 Sep 2012, 10:38 am
@129
I said all along let us wait for all the facts before judging people
28 Sep 2012, 10:39 am
@Fern-126: Did you play with the Van Rensburg boeties?
28 Sep 2012, 10:40 am
@Skeppie-120: thats pretty sad man.
do you miss playing prop?
@Fern-121: johnnies must watch out. i will kick them in the face.
especially if they try to take my fish, i dont stand for that sh it.
moz is awesome. going for 10 days in feb.
@Skeppie-123:
28 Sep 2012, 10:40 am
Nope,know them.Clinton is in the Cape somewhere coaching school rugby and studying to become a teacher last I heard.Their dad passed on about 6 weeks ago.
I played thirds
28 Sep 2012, 10:44 am
@rangerman-132: Prop? The horror…I must be better looking than that?
28 Sep 2012, 10:48 am
today i saw the new southern kings range rover sports, very nice i must say!
28 Sep 2012, 10:49 am
@Skeppie-134: so you dont go by the morgs moniker?
well i know of only a few guys who played saders who live in jhb these days and are mates with hanks.
you didnt own a bike shop at one stage did you?
p.s. have you heard from m on ke y lately? the flippen oke dissapeared into the wilds of botswana with his poppie and i havent heard from him in years.
28 Sep 2012, 10:51 am
Ranger,who did you play for?
28 Sep 2012, 10:53 am
@rangerman-136: Nah, although I beleive that man is highly intelligent and very good looking. Garth and Gary sold the bike shop a few years back and now also live in Jozi. Ja I see Monk whenever he is in town but he is like the scarlet pimpernel these days.
28 Sep 2012, 10:55 am
@Fern-137: ag after school i was in PMB varsity and then in the hlatini for 7 years but when i moved back to durbs i played 3 seasons for old boys.
enjoyed it but cant say i set the world alight
28 Sep 2012, 10:56 am
Ranger,clubrugby was still fun and had gees back then.
28 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
@rangerman-139: The “Ranger” is not just a nic!
28 Sep 2012, 10:57 am
@Skeppie-138: ja and that man hates a beer like no other before him
28 Sep 2012, 10:59 am
Who did HG play for?
28 Sep 2012, 11:00 am
@Fern-140: ag its still good bud lots of my mates still play.
i watch
@Skeppie-141: nah, worked with m on key at londoz so i know poppie as well.
28 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
@rangerman-144: Was she at Londo’s? I thought monks only met her when he moved from there. That was when he was known as Grant Vartie.
28 Sep 2012, 11:03 am
Only club I belong to now is a runningclub and soon a cycling club,my mates only belong to gholf and drinking clubs:-)
28 Sep 2012, 11:09 am
@Skeppie-145: haha, garnt varty lmao!
nah, he met her there.
she is a fiery one lol.
ok, i am going diving and beers after. have a good day all!
28 Sep 2012, 11:09 am
Cheers all,gotta roll.Have a nice weekend.
Go Bokke!
28 Sep 2012, 11:10 am
@rangerman-147: Cheers Ranger have a good one!
28 Sep 2012, 12:58 pm
Can’t wait for Elton and Jaco to get some gametime as well.
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