White-hot Boks thrill
29 Sep 2012
RYAN VREDE reports on a 31-8 victory for the Springboks over Australia at Loftus in which they produced the type of performance they hope will become commonplace.
The Springboks were good, but hold your unbridled praise. The result was not unexpected. This was the weakest Wallabies side the Springboks have faced in their last nine encounters, and at a venue they have never won at. The measure of these Springboks will come against the All Blacks in a week.
The Wallabies were never in this one, a brutal and organised defensive effort blunting their ambitions. It is in this facet of play that most Test matches will be won and lost. That the Wallabies scored once (through a slipped hit) gives me more joy than the bonus-point the Springboks earned.
And they could have and should have won by more, six missed kicks and host of squandered try-scoring chances ensuring that the scoreline flattered the Wallabies.
However, it would grossly remiss not to applaud this win, particularly since it provided reasons for optimism in some key areas.
Flyhalf Johan Goosen will have better Tests, but he certainly isn’t an impostor at this level. His tears during the anthem humanised the kid many what to believe has supernatural ability. He showed his rawness with two hooked penalties, too lateral a running line and poor option-taking at times. But he also stirred hope of a bright attacking future with a couple of linebreaks and generally slick play. He doesn’t have Henry Honiball’s defensive punch and will be targeted by their opposition, but he isn’t a defensive liability and his attacking skill makes up for what he lacks there.
Then there’s the Boondock Saints – Francois Louw and Duane Vermeulen – who hunted in tandem, both outstanding at the gainline and on the deck. They lend the Springboks an air of menace and mongrel, with their efforts amplified by an industrious and highly effective pack.
What else? Ruan Pienaar looked composed and sharp. Andries Bekker was influential at the lineouts and in general play, Jaco Taute was impressive defensively in the most difficult channel for this discipline, and Bryan Habana reconfirmed that has left the fraud he was under Peter de Villiers behind him with a throwback effort.
And their much-maligned game plan? The tactical kicking was poor…when they did kick. This was a wholly different approach from the Springboks, a more expansive one than we’ve become used to. This doesn’t, however, herald the start of a bold new era from Heyneke Meyer’s men. The Wallabies allowed them to play in this manner. The Blacks will demand a tighter approach. They are some way off mastering either, but there are signs that should encourage.
Their rolling maul is unmatched by any team in the game, and it was from this platform that they opened the scoring, with a touch of tactical intelligence (two decoy runners) creating space for Zane Kirchner to score in the corner. Pienaar had taken over the goal-kicking responsibility from Goosen and duly banked the touchline conversion.
The Springboks were in business again seven minutes later after Habana finished a disjointed move that went right then snapped left. Pienaar’s conversion attempt struck the post and the teams went down the tunnel with the hosts leading 14-3, Kurtley Beale’s penalty all the Wallabies could muster in the face of an immense defensive effort.
The Wallabies huffed and puffed after the restart but the Springboks killed their ambition superbly, first Louw peeling off the back of another unstoppable rolling maul to score, then Habana catching them napping with a quick lineout feed to Adriaan Strauss, who drew a defender and offloaded to put the winger away.
The Springboks’ defensive intensity and precision tapered off in the closing stages, allowing the visitors to breach their tryline, but they never seriously threatened a comeback. With time nearly up the Springboks launched another expansive assault, this time Louw finding Habana with a left-pass most elite scrumhalves would be proud to boast.
The Springboks will believe this performance is a good example of what they can achieve when things click, and they’ll be right. But there is a sterner examination ahead in the form of the world champions. For now, however, they deserve to be lauded on the strength of this showing.
By Ryan Vrede, in Pretoria
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174 Comments
29 Sep 2012, 19:10 pm
Don’t say the W word!
29 Sep 2012, 19:10 pm
First
29 Sep 2012, 19:10 pm
Bugger!
29 Sep 2012, 19:14 pm
Hougi is the quota
29 Sep 2012, 19:15 pm
We need to sort out our goal-kicking… Bring in a specialist.
29 Sep 2012, 19:18 pm
The Boondock saints indeed
Vermeulen and Louw were utter ball scavenging and bashing poetry in motion.
29 Sep 2012, 19:19 pm
couldn’t resist bringing PDV into this now could u Ryan
29 Sep 2012, 19:22 pm
heard from an inside source it was actually the senior players and matfield who coached the team this week
29 Sep 2012, 19:26 pm
Racist headline
29 Sep 2012, 19:28 pm
@Dawn-9: I think Ryan has forgotten that Jake isn’t the coach anymore.
29 Sep 2012, 19:29 pm
Louw was massive.
29 Sep 2012, 19:29 pm
@saru1983-8: Ok mate, that’s my comment of the evening
Brilliant.
29 Sep 2012, 19:37 pm
seriously though whats with the head line ?
they weren’t even red hot considering the errors and missed kicks and butchered tries so i assume it has something to do with race.
29 Sep 2012, 19:39 pm
Good to see Bryan and Ruan back to there best. Pity Meyer didn’t bring on Elton a bit earlier when the kicking went awry
29 Sep 2012, 19:43 pm
The Boks aren’t white-hot yet – but they are playing much better. Keep Goosen, Flouw and Vermeulen on the park and they will get there.
29 Sep 2012, 19:43 pm
@RugbyStudent-4: this is a match in which one might have expected Hougaard to excel, however he was not good.
29 Sep 2012, 19:56 pm
Boondock my g*t!
And whatsup with that headline Ryan? I bet you were happy this chump coach of yours took 75 minutes to introduce some non-white-hot players.
Get your head out Goosens *** and take a break from jerking him off to think before you report something next time
29 Sep 2012, 20:00 pm
Congratulations boks. Good win.
What I enjoyed was the boks trying to speed up the game in the second half. It was exciting to watch; and it is the way to put away teams on the ropes, as the Aussies were.
29 Sep 2012, 20:00 pm
Well done Boks, much better. Though this was a very weak Wallabie side depleted with injuries, so have to wait until next week against the ABs to see how far we have come.
29 Sep 2012, 20:10 pm
@boktillzero-13: now we have adjectivists objecting to the lyrical prose… in how many colourful languages should i tell you to get a life
29 Sep 2012, 20:12 pm
@boktillzero-13: i did see the smiley yellow sunshine
29 Sep 2012, 20:14 pm
nice revenge for Louw…great job by Vermuelen…
With all due respect bye bye Spies and Morne
29 Sep 2012, 20:18 pm
Louw was huge .. div had his best game in a while but i’m still not convinced. I’d prefer Louw as el kapitan.. div is a great guy but he comes across as his masters puppet
29 Sep 2012, 20:36 pm
This coach going to fck up a few careers.. he already almost decimated Hougaard to a goddamn nonentity utility f’ng wing and stuffed his natural scrum half game to sh’t..
next he’s going to fck up Goosen and possibly Jantjies and De Jongh too..
What were they thinking giving Pienaar carte blanche with every goddamn kick whether it was a line kick or a place kick after already 3 tries to zip up.. where is the confidence boost to the kid Goosen who can nail them from anywhere on the park..now he goes in against AB’s cold with Pienaar taking the damn FdP general position.. they going to Fck Goosen’s confidence already I can smell it filtering through the negative cowardly tendencies again..
NEXT WTF was Meyer afraid of at 35 – 8 up with 10 or 15 to go and he STILL deliberates about bringing on Jantjies and De Jongh..waiting to get out the 22 .. then waits some more and FINALLY allows the pair of them 4 minutes of game time AFTER the horse has bolted for Aussie already 30 minutes ago..
Is he THAT much of a goddamn coward or was it purely that supremacist garbage seeping through his dumb brain again?
Hougaard must either play 9 or not at all.. Pienaar might have taken some pressure off Goosen.. BUT Pienaar is not doing ANY favors to either of Goosen or Hougaard. or Jantjies for that matter..
Taute was poor.. de Jongh should have come on at least 20 minutes earlier.. and keeping both him and Jantjies chomping at the bit to get on for 15 minutes when there was ZERO chance of losing that game was either sheer goddamn cowardice or else a totally biased and insecure damn favoritist cockup by HM
29 Sep 2012, 20:38 pm
@Lorenzo-22:
Yep, bye bye to Morne and Spies indeed. Although we hardly sent these aussies to the abattoir and I think we should have.
Much improved though. Nice to see the abdication of a truly dispensable gameplan. Don’t think this coach had anything to do with it though
29 Sep 2012, 20:38 pm
@fitz1ella-24: agreed
29 Sep 2012, 20:58 pm
Well done boks
Just imagine if we had had this team vs Poms and last 4 games in this tounament
Things look very promising
Plus dispite what Jdv said we kept ball in hand and used it well
29 Sep 2012, 21:02 pm
@fitz1ella-24: Yeah Skoppie
Agree about Pienaar
he should have stuck with Goosen and build the confidence
Hougaard to 9 would be another improvement
But still it was good
Yes and dont have Jdj and Elton get up and then only let them come on 4 min to go?
But today the players made the decisions
F Louw was great
Vermeulen gaining in confidence
29 Sep 2012, 21:08 pm
Flouw was damn good – Vermeulen damn good. All the forwards damn good why cause there were no bully cowards there to spoil things.
Goose can only get better and so can the evolution to a great team.
Heineken keep this team together now and let them settle.
29 Sep 2012, 21:11 pm
@fitz1ella-24: Grumpy old wankers like you will never be happy. Even if we smash the Aussies to kingdom come, with fast, running rugby, with a fantastic new flyhalf, with a lock pairing that made the Aussie lineout sht itself, with a loose trio that completely dominated the rucks and the collisions, with the world’s best winger getting a hat trick… you’ll still find it within your miserable self to only comment on the negative. Who the fck needs ***** like you anyway. Get lost.
29 Sep 2012, 21:16 pm
Would love to see this 26 Man squad on the EOYT. Resting senior players after this year would be ideal…..
15. Patrick Lambie / Zane Kirschner.
14. J.P. Pietersen.
13. Jaco Taute / Juan De Jongh.
12. Jean De Villiers (c).
11. Francois Hougaard / Lwazi Mvovo.
10. Johan Goosen / Elton Jantjes.
9. Ruan Pienaar / Sarel Pretorious.
8. Duane Vermuelen / Keegan Daniels.
7. Marcell Coetzee / Arno Botha.
6. Francois Louw.
5. Juandre Kruger.
4. Bakkies Botha / Eben Etsebeth.
3. C.J. Van Der Linde / Patric Cilliers.
2. Adriaan Strauss / Schalk Brits.
1. Coenie Oosthuizen / Gurthro Steenkamp.
29 Sep 2012, 21:16 pm
@RL-29:
Yes I agree was nice to see
I think we had faster ruck ball with allowed us to run
Add to that a running 10
I would like to see quicker service from a 9
Taute was fine tackled well
I think Jdv is better suited at 12
Kirshner has been a very solid and run well with the ball at times
Alberts was a bit quiet Possibly better off the bench
maybe switch to Coetzee starting
good to see Elton getting on maybe a bit too late but how can you take off Goosen
29 Sep 2012, 21:21 pm
@katman-30: fck you boertjie up shitcreek… who the fck little runtcunts like you think you are… you gonna start calling in the riot squad soon to get all the racists out the auditorium or what pissarse little fckface runt
Of course it was an improvement .. anyone with any modicum of ommon sense could have told you AND your dumb fck coach WHERE he was going wrong SINCE game ONE.. how come it takes your brain dead coach 7 games to recognize what so damn obvious was missing from the beginning
leaving Jantjies and De Jongh on the sidelines watching their broertjie boertjie boeties with ants in their pants for a measly little run on cameo of 4 minutes was outright disgusting and COWARDLY if not pure unadulterated insecure supremacist tendencies all over again to say the very least… but of course little Verwoerdian arsecreeps like you would be MORE than happy with the reinstatement of the status quo.. wouldn’t you just piece of two face little pseudo arse broerdertjie from the wrong side of the enlightenment tracks.
29 Sep 2012, 21:32 pm
Oh good, the Boks managed a win!
Congratulations and enjoy the sweet smell of success……I think it may only last for one week!!
29 Sep 2012, 21:33 pm
@fitz1ella-33: Didn’t I tell you quite clearly to fck off?
29 Sep 2012, 21:36 pm
@carol-34:
Hi Carol
Maybe not
This time we are playing at home
A much improved team now with Goosen
Kicking needs to improve and hard to think we will have 3 game with bad kicking issues in a row.
ABs may be in for shock
29 Sep 2012, 21:36 pm
Those perky Kiwis might be a bit of a challenge!!
29 Sep 2012, 21:38 pm
When Kirshner got injured maybe put Taute at 15 and then bring in Jdj?
Sorry Guppies Lambie not playing that well
29 Sep 2012, 21:39 pm
@CoachPete-36:
Hi Coach, funny old Loftus would be a fun place to have watched that game.
I have never seen such chaos as I experienced at Loftus. I would give the staff 3/10 for crowd management!!
Bet the Aussie fans were quite amused!
29 Sep 2012, 21:41 pm
@carol-37: Fck ‘em. They travel as well as Julian Assange. This game is ours.
29 Sep 2012, 21:41 pm
Well done Boks. Good performance.
29 Sep 2012, 21:41 pm
Fracois Louw is such a boss.
29 Sep 2012, 21:43 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-42:
he is a Bishops boy with brains and skills
Unlike spies and potgieter
29 Sep 2012, 21:43 pm
@CoachPete-36: Argies will soften the NZ pack up and SA should finish them – provided they have a goal-kicker.
29 Sep 2012, 21:44 pm
@carol-39:
yeah and the empty seats ??
A test at Loftus not a sell out?
29 Sep 2012, 21:45 pm
@Big Hit-44:
We have one. Goosen
HM should have stayed with him
29 Sep 2012, 21:47 pm
If every player in SA was selected for being the best in his respective position we would see a much different team in terms of personnel and purpose. Why select players just to accommodate their inclusion without them being the best in their position, @ national and provincial/club levels.
Jdv and FSteyn should be vying it out for the 12 jersey, not forming a coalition. Taute could wipe the floor with niknaks @ fullback but neither have anything on Lambie. The same should be said for every position across the park.
I felt for Jdj and Elton. Standing on the sideline looking like token from south park. And the funny thing is they are the best in their positions in this country.., on form and ability.
29 Sep 2012, 21:48 pm
@CoachPete-43: Now Meyer needs to bring Brussouw through as cover and interchange to keep em fresh. What awesome openside options we have.
29 Sep 2012, 21:51 pm
I hate to generalise about nations, but the Americans make such a godawful sports crowd. The Ryder Cup is the most amazing team sports event, but the way the Yanks whoop and holler and shout their inane little “get in the hole” after every American shot, and wildly cheer every European shot that hits a bunker or lands in the water make one want to smash their fat little faces in. I’m sure there are cool Americans too, but probably not more than a hundred or so.
29 Sep 2012, 21:51 pm
@katman-35: you want to keep your supremacist antics coming fuckface keep it coming you little white runt with your clear as daylight jacaranda infused jaundice screaming through every post you spawn.. come tell me to fck off over here runtcunt I kick that two face broerderbond snout of yours straight through the back of your broederbond scrum cap…piece of supremacist garbage gone wrong.
29 Sep 2012, 21:51 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-48:
I agree 100%
I think we could have him in there ahead of maybe Flip (in the squad of 30)
Alberts off the bench and to cover lock as well
Coetzee to start maybe?
29 Sep 2012, 21:55 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-48:
And Flow is more than a fetcher
The balence now with loosies is good
In past with Spies the other 2 were doing work of 3 players
29 Sep 2012, 21:56 pm
Katman I don’t think I can caddy for you
Those bags are too heavy
29 Sep 2012, 21:57 pm
@fitz1ella-50: Supremacist? You reckon if you say it enough it will rub off? It’s just schmucks like you that I don’t like. What does that make me?
And remember, a couple of years of late night liberal posturing on a rugby blog doesn’t make up for 5 decades of shoving your little white snout in the handy trough that PW’s government shoved in front of you. I know your type, make no mistake. You phony old timers who now claim to be such ardent fans of the rainbow nation. Where was that fuzzy love in the 60′s, 70′s 80′s? That’s right, punk. I see through your pretentious charade.
29 Sep 2012, 21:57 pm
@fishdish-47: its an ideological quandary.. and the way those two were hung out to dry in broad faced lily white daylight was almost as appealing as an AWB rally down Soweto’s main street before Sunday morning church parade.. Meyer better start getting it right.. his agenda’s are starting to smell a little fishy.. if not fishy maybe even a little desperate
his level of trust is pretty much down to status zero.. he may have gotten it working slightly better today under a setup very much stacked in his favor but he keep pulling those stunts and it won’t be smelling so hunky dory in the state of Denmark for much longer.
29 Sep 2012, 21:57 pm
And skop will moer me
29 Sep 2012, 21:58 pm
@CoachPete-46: Meyer didn’t want to make the same mistake two weeks running in not changing a kicker (not that it helped).
If Goosen missed a 3rd kick it could have impacted on other areas of his game, right call imo.
29 Sep 2012, 21:58 pm
@CoachPete-51: Definitely an option if we’re looking for more mobility in our pack. I’d prefer Alberts starting against the likes of Argetnina and the AB’s.
29 Sep 2012, 21:58 pm
@Dawn-53: Don’t worry, I have a pull cart. So it’s more the reading of putts and club selection. You in?
29 Sep 2012, 22:00 pm
@fitz1ella-55:
I have mentioned that when Zane was injured we could have had Taute at 15 and bring in Jdj
Would you agree?
29 Sep 2012, 22:00 pm
@katman-54: you see through fuckall fuckface.. come see how far you see through me I show you who sees what through which side of your supremacist runtcunt backside.. you the little **** who is WIDE open for inspection here.. your pseudo liberalist half bred whitearse non enlightened so called ‘intelligence’ smacks of outright phony trash if ever I seen any anywhere…
29 Sep 2012, 22:02 pm
@CoachPete-52: Thats right we were literally playing with a 7 man pack the whole time Spies was in the team. He’ll be back, but by then Meyer will be used to Vermuelens beautiful behemoth presence.
29 Sep 2012, 22:03 pm
@Dawn-53:
A couple of whiskeys and then i am sure you can carry his bags
29 Sep 2012, 22:05 pm
@katman-54:
julle ouens is snaaks
29 Sep 2012, 22:05 pm
@Spiesisworthless1-62:
Well both of us can see Vermeulen is a true classic hard working 8
Spies does nothing So yes he may feature if there is an injury.
And “Flop”Potgieter needs to stay in club rugby and learn how to pass
29 Sep 2012, 22:05 pm
@CoachPete-60: Jantjies and De Jongh should have been on when we went 3 tries to zip up already 15 minutes out from full time.. WHAT was the coward coach actually thinking.. that we were still going to lose from 25 -8 up with 12 minutes to play??
And Pienaar should NOT have been taking every line kick and every place kick AFTER we were clearly out of any kind of trouble already after being handily in front from around 50 minutes or so.
Taute should have gone to 15 at some stage .. I still say De Jongh should play 12 with Hougaard at 9 and Goosen 10, JdV back to 13 and Taute 14 or 15.
See how they go next week.
29 Sep 2012, 22:09 pm
@fitz1ella-66:
will you ever have anything positive to say, skop?
i think goosen was injured, not enough to warrant coming off but injured enough not to take the kicks. probably a decison was made from the top, or it was player/captain inititiave ?
29 Sep 2012, 22:09 pm
@fitz1ella-66:
As i said earlier why have them get up and then leave them standing there for so long
yes agreed about jantjies coming in 65 min or so but i guess HM was thinking goosen was doing well
Pienaar taking kicks was a mistake Ultimately your future star 10 will need to be doing it so as i mentioned he should have stayed with goosen
29 Sep 2012, 22:11 pm
60 mins: SPRINGBOK TRY! Try No 45 for Habana, who is showing great form during the Rugby Championship. He has the speed to breakaway from the chasing Wallaby defenders, and dots down untouched under the posts. Pienaar converts. SPRINGBOKS LEAD 26-3!
so at 60 minutes we were 26-3 up and Lambie comes on for Kirchner and both Hougaard and Lambie miss tackles to let Aussie score with 14 men on the park..
How come it takes the coach ANOTHER 15 minutes before he allows either De Jongh or Jantjies on the park.. was he afraid their pigmentation was actually going to lose the game from there?
29 Sep 2012, 22:11 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-67:
I think Pienaar to one line kick when Goosen was limping
I think if goosen was able to stay on the field and run like he did he can kick as well
29 Sep 2012, 22:12 pm
@CoachPete-65:
Sorry for my absence, a medium rump steak called me away!
Re empty seats at Loftus….. What are the locals doing then? Pretoria looked qute dull to me, thought a good rugby match would be far more interesting than checking out the new seasons outfits at Mr.Price!
29 Sep 2012, 22:12 pm
@fitz1ella-69:
Skoppie his conservative approach has been seen with his handling of the Steyn/Goosen situation
So it was predictable
29 Sep 2012, 22:13 pm
@CoachPete-68:
oh for farks sakes, can the man do nothing right…?..
dont you think there was a more to the equation than just whether to give the bench a run?
dont answer it, its rhetorical.
29 Sep 2012, 22:13 pm
I’m in.
Eager to learn.
At least these guys aren’t portly.
Tiger is hondkuk. All down to Bubba! (Where is he!)
29 Sep 2012, 22:14 pm
@fitz1ella-69:
Evening Skop, where do you stand on golf?
I think you could agree with Katman on one thing…….
Americans can be incredibly embarrassing, you know the whole ‘Get in the hole’ thing is fairly cringeworthy!!
29 Sep 2012, 22:14 pm
@carol-71:
possibly or maybe the price of tickets not work what the boks had dissed out previously
It was a decent game yes
BECAUSE WE WON
29 Sep 2012, 22:16 pm
@fitz1ella-66: Meyer didn’t want to bring Jantjies and de Jongh on when the Boks were defending their tryline. He wanted to protect them. And it’s just as well, too, seeing how de Jongh immediately butchered a try when he came on.
29 Sep 2012, 22:16 pm
@Dawn-74:
Where do you stand on men in pastel knitwear?
Oh and the whole T-Shirt tucked in scenario, I tell you, golf dress code thingie is a minefield!
29 Sep 2012, 22:17 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-73:
But i keep Goosen on unless he was injured
I wont answer it
I move taute to 15 and bring in jdj
There you go never answered you
29 Sep 2012, 22:17 pm
@CoachPete-68: yep his confidence management of Goosen sucked .. perhaps it was protectionist between Meyer and De Villiers to cocoon Goosen for his first outing after he missed his first 2 kicks but if he wants to blood him properly he has to chuck him in at the deep end somewhere and Pienaar missed at least 3 which Goosen could have got..
If Goosen was favoring an injury then its another case altogether but then how come it takes till minute 76 before Jantjies and De Jongh come on?
29 Sep 2012, 22:18 pm
@fitz1ella-69: Hougaard was responsible for that try – Beale gave him the slip and after that it was all over.
29 Sep 2012, 22:18 pm
@ Carol
These guys don’t look too bad thank dog!
29 Sep 2012, 22:20 pm
@kaksioek-77: Bullshit De Jongh didn’t butcher any try .. he lunced for the line after the pop up from Pienaar who couldn’t make it and De Jongh got within 5 cm of the line.. if you call that butchering then what the fck was Tautes misfield off the bounce from the upright..?? you also got supremacist jaundice ******** up your lily white brain?
29 Sep 2012, 22:20 pm
@CoachPete-79:
29 Sep 2012, 22:22 pm
Kaksoek
Stop with your blaming de Jongh for the botched try already. He was only on for two feckin minutes. Supremacist!
29 Sep 2012, 22:22 pm
@kaksioek-81:
Yes you are right. It was Hougaard that fluffed his tackle…not Lambie, like the moron above alleged.
29 Sep 2012, 22:23 pm
Oh snap!
29 Sep 2012, 22:24 pm
@Dawn-82:
I don’t have satellite TV, I will rely on your judgement!
However I can honestely say I have NEVER seen a hot golfer!
29 Sep 2012, 22:24 pm
@Dawn-85: you tell him
fcking supremacists all over the goddamn place here…
next they gonna be wanting de Jongh and Jantjies to caddie for them too
29 Sep 2012, 22:27 pm
@ Carol these guys aren’t too bad. Lean mean golfing machines.
29 Sep 2012, 22:28 pm
here comes the ultimate supremacist come crawling from out of his white knight hidy hole .. must have just got off his ratle bazooker all at the ready for some black arse to target in his sights..
Both Hougaard came off his wing and Beale skinned Lambie to set up Harris.. they both fck’d it up together.
Hougaard should be at 9 what the dumb deluded coach actually thinking playing a scrum half at wing?
29 Sep 2012, 22:28 pm
@fitz1ella-83: @Dawn-85: Simple fact – deal with it. If Skop is going to go on one of his rants – and that ship has long since sailed – then he is going to have to deal with an inconvenient truth.
29 Sep 2012, 22:29 pm
@carol-88: Google Natalie Gulbis. She can swing a club and is fairly easy on the eye. Not really my type though, but I guess she qualifies as hot.
29 Sep 2012, 22:29 pm
O vok Predawn is back.
29 Sep 2012, 22:30 pm
Hougaard is an amateur scrummie compared to Pienaar at test level.
29 Sep 2012, 22:31 pm
which ‘inconvenient truth’ you wanna propose that De Jongh botched a certain try after Pienaar ran out of gas 8 mts out… while Taute knocked on an open sesame opportunity with the line at his mercy .. and fluffed a few other handling errors in first half too..
29 Sep 2012, 22:31 pm
The Habana haters must be cringing. Very little praise on The Panther on this thread. He was incredible. On attack; on defence, in the rucks. Legend.
29 Sep 2012, 22:31 pm
@Dawn-85:
Actually it was his speed and assesment of the situation which allowed him to be up in support in the first place
Pity he was a bit short
29 Sep 2012, 22:33 pm
If you miss your tackle then the runner becomes another defenders problem which means he has to now mark two players.
29 Sep 2012, 22:33 pm
Zactly Coach
At least he tried
29 Sep 2012, 22:34 pm
@katman-93:
Gosh, she is very pretty!
Now find me the male version please!
29 Sep 2012, 22:34 pm
@Predawn-86:
Ever played the game?
it not that easy to get a player like beale in the open field
He missed him but give credit to beale for beating him
29 Sep 2012, 22:35 pm
@fitz1ella-96: Yes, that’s exactly what I am proposing. When a player merely has to place the ball to score a try and he fails to do so, instead losing it forward, then he has butchered a try. I am glad you understand.
29 Sep 2012, 22:38 pm
@carol-101: Not really my field of expertise. The women seem to find the Aussie Adam Scott a bit of okay.
29 Sep 2012, 22:38 pm
Putting the blame on Lambie for another players farkup is also unfair.
29 Sep 2012, 22:40 pm
Love this, Boks have good game, albeit against pathetic Aus team. Goosen in debut was good, Lambie got game time (still my no 1 choice for flyhalf), Jantjies got intro, and Boks won, well. But on this blog we have to go overboard, bring a bit of race, provincialism, stupidity, sort of thing that would get you properly blik…’d in a bar anywhere and make you llook stupid in normal conversation. Criticism is fine but the stupidity above would be amusing only if I knew guys were too pissed to make sense and apologise in the morning
29 Sep 2012, 22:41 pm
So, what do you suppose Ryan is up to in Pretoria tonight?
29 Sep 2012, 22:45 pm
The same cretins make the same lame monotonous race related cowardly internet rants month after month. Nothing changes on keo.
Rugby is a sideshow for them.
29 Sep 2012, 22:45 pm
@katman-93:
I wouldn’t kick her out for eating biscuits in bed.
29 Sep 2012, 22:46 pm
Frankly, if you don’t like it go away
29 Sep 2012, 22:47 pm
@katman-104:
Well spotted, he seems to suit Pringle!
My chum’s cousin is a professional lady golfer, Catriona Mathews!
She will not be treading on Kate Moss toes any time soon!
29 Sep 2012, 22:47 pm
@fitz1ella-69:
Its all SARUs fault. They messed up the timing of the Bok coach appointments.
HM should have been appointed ring leader of that aging bunch of has beens after 2007. We all know what happens when a clang of nitwits succumb to delusions of aristocracy, faced with the demise of a falsely puissant regime. They would have coped far better with HM leading the laager to the promised land rather than Pdv.
Now as it is players with genuine talent must adapt, accept or die. No room for democracy here my friend.
29 Sep 2012, 22:48 pm
@I am a stormer-109:
Where do you stand on toast?
29 Sep 2012, 22:49 pm
@kaksioek-103: you proposing wrong.. where were the rest of the support staff after JdV bust out to send Pienaar away who couldn’t quite make it because his legs weren’t fast enough and ONLY De Jongh gets to the breakdown in time to go DIVING through the air… landing few cm short missing by a ball hair … yeah thats a botch up for sure… pity wasn’t you following up the play I reckon you might have made it easy over the try line from that pisseasy situation.. where was Lambie.. where was Habana.. where was Hougaard .. where were all the holy capable supremacists when Pienaar came short of the tryline.. the little brown scapegoat obviously botched the try.. when Taute botched a couple on his own earlier on. Pity De Jongh only gets 4 minutes to make good while Taute gets all of 75 to stuff up
29 Sep 2012, 22:52 pm
@fishdish-112: that’s pretty much the long and the short of the short straw.. unfortunately that’s how the cookie had to crumble with this setup… now try get it through some of these supremacists heads that is what is ACTUALLY going down.. they’ll tell you you’re the racist and the’re as pure as the lily white driven snow…
29 Sep 2012, 22:54 pm
@carol-113:
No problem with that either – but I draw the line a peanut butter toast. That clucking sound afterwards – no thanks.
Anyway, nice chatting everyone. Been a long day. Speak soon.
29 Sep 2012, 22:56 pm
You’re the only one harping on race here Skop, accusing people of being racists left, right and centre. The Boks won – let’s leave it at that.
29 Sep 2012, 22:57 pm
@Dawn-110: Probably will, sad to think you believe you in good company here, not that I know you but at least you erased any doubt that I want to.
29 Sep 2012, 22:59 pm
@kaksioek-117: Leave him alone. He’s just a crazy bum. Those okes occupy a different reality. Always angry, always muttering, always onto some kind of injustice or conspiracy. Let them prance around in their stokies and their tinfoil hats. For all their bluster, they’re harmless.
29 Sep 2012, 23:07 pm
Boks won.. Meyer leaving Jantjies and De Jongh hopping up and down the touchline for 15 minutes smells like dead rats to me and don’t look too grandiose in terms of his so called non racist slant on life… what he so afraid of that at 26-3 up with 20 to go that De Jongh and / or Jantjies actually going to chuck the game away from there.?.. something smells kinda dodgy back at the jacaranda tree lodge.
Goosen hobbling.. Lambie bobbing.. and Hougaard wobbling.. but Jantjies and De Jongh are far more risky options in the Caucasian tank to bank on at 26-3 up with 20 minutes to play.. that certainly sends the ‘right’ message out to the rest of the ‘wrong’ color out on the fringes in HM’s Disneyland parade
29 Sep 2012, 23:08 pm
Not quite white-hot, but pretty damn good. Pierre Spies and Morne Steyn’s Bok careers are probably over. I’m not too concerned by the missed kicks at goal, especially if Goosen keeping on asking the tough questions and keep them guessing. And we all know he can kick better than that. i’ll put it down to nerves. Our support play was better at times but we still need to work on our technique at the breakdown on our ball. We’re probably the only team that get pushed of our ball so easily. And at times Pienaar still had to dig over bodies for the ball. Sometimes even our own players! But congrats Bokkies! A well earned win. Will next week be Dean’s last game in charge?
29 Sep 2012, 23:22 pm
Looking at the game now, Gooseneck was like a revelation for this bok backline! He carries the ball at pase and passes players into space instead of into pressure! Vermeulen has found his place in the book squad, Spies will at best be a super sub that is if he play better than Coetzee which I doubt. Ysterbeth is a monster both on the defensive line and the line out. Flouw is revelation at 6, great set of game she has strung together!
This set of players have amazing promise.
29 Sep 2012, 23:33 pm
I feel that Kirchner had a good enough game. Solid, no Dagg, but we have stars in other positions.
29 Sep 2012, 23:54 pm
If Goosen and Jantjies both put in big performances next week and Lambie does well wherever he plays, I don’t think Morne Steyn will ever get a sniff of the Number 10 jersey again, even with all the lavishing praise Meyer gives him
30 Sep 2012, 00:09 am
Well done boys…..much better stuff. nice to get a bonus point for tries.
Kicking still an issue, hope they out there now practicing……can’t have another game of missed kicks costing a game.
Much better by Bekker, alberts a bit quiet, Beast needs a kick up the a rse and Hougie likewise!
30 Sep 2012, 00:13 am
Oh shame……skop being a racist tw at again……….what an a hole!
30 Sep 2012, 00:27 am
“Flyhalf Johan Goosen will have better Tests,…”
So, what are you actually saying here?
He didn’t have a good test????
30 Sep 2012, 00:31 am
You Yarpies make me laugh. You get all excited about a win over a depleted 2nd rate Aussie side. You should have beaten them by 60 points.
30 Sep 2012, 00:35 am
@fishdish-112:
“No room for democracy here my friend.”
What do you mean by this?
@fitz1ella-114:
say it like it is, as always Skop.
De Jongh and Jantjies warmed up for freakin TEN,/b> minutes before they were sent on. Jantjies created TWO tries in the few minutes he was there.
What more do you need to see?
30 Sep 2012, 00:38 am
Well ****** done Bokke. Yes, I know it was against the Aussie C-team but still….
A really good game today.
Ruan Pienaar
Adriaan Strauss
ANDRIES BEKKER
Francois Louw
TAKE 5
30 Sep 2012, 00:40 am
@Black Power-128:
Have you ever…..?
Even in the 70′s before they became a world force?
30 Sep 2012, 00:43 am
nama1, My you are going back, What for? we are in a new centry
30 Sep 2012, 00:54 am
@Black Power-132:
OK…tell me then, have you ever beat them by 60 in the new century?
You also played against a “depleted 2nd rate Aussie side” a few weeks ago, didn’t you?
OK, you did nilled them but still, to suggest that we shoud’ve beat them by 60, is way off the mark my friend.
How do you see your game against the Argies?
I say the AB’s by 12.
30 Sep 2012, 00:55 am
Bok played as well as they were allowed to by a below average Aussie team
30 Sep 2012, 00:56 am
meyer and jdv both saying that the game plan did not change. well then if the players were told to vary play and offload before, there was bugger all execution! and if morne was told to play the situation, then he must have seen EVERY situation as a reason to kick. which makes hm`s refusal to change morne even more ridiculous. ah well, now its done, and the only way that morne gets back into the test frame is by reinventing himself as a balanced flyhalf. I just hope HM keeps giving elton and lambie chances at flyhalf as back up to goosen.
30 Sep 2012, 01:05 am
@SjamBok-135:
I also can’t understand how they can say there was no change in the game plan.
From where I sat, the only player who kicked the uppies was Pienaar.
His game was so much different also in that he cleared the ball from the rucks so much quicker.
Meyer is again talking kak thinking that the supporters know vokkol about rugby.
30 Sep 2012, 02:11 am
Flo, Bekker & Habana were absolutley brilliant… Top drawer
Taute had a good debut
This was a team without JP, Bissie, Schalk, Frans, Aplon and J Fourie…wow
The team for All Blacks for me would be:
15 Patrick Lambie
14 Jaco Taute
13 Jean De Villiers
12 Francois Steyn
11 Bryan Habana
10 Johan Goosen
9 Ruan Pienaar
8 Duane Vermeulen
7 Marcell Coetzee
6 Francois Louw
5 Andries Bekker
4 Eben Etzebeth
3 Pat Cilliers
2 Tiaan Liebenberg
1 Tendai Mtawarira
16 Craig Burden
17 CJ Van Der Linde
18 Juandre Kruger
19 Willem Alberts
20 Francois Hougaard
21 Elton Jantjes
22 Juan De Jongh
30 Sep 2012, 02:31 am
@Rhys7-137:
cant see why people are so hung up on lambie at 15. i think he second choice 10 behind goosen.
Krusty/niknaks was good today and has been solid all season. he is quicker than lambie, kicks further and is better under the high ball. so why drop him for lambie? if you want something different then aplon should be considered coz he has that game breaking ability. but for me he is an impact player when your first choice is fit.
30 Sep 2012, 02:59 am
Who was that team playing in green?
Was that the sharks?
I haven’t seen a boks side use such width, angles & pace for about 6 years.
This side will truly test the ABs, especially if you kick more than 2/10.
Habana & JdV had their best games of the season, but honestly Aussie are dogtucker.
Well done boks, I hope to see more next week, but I hope you don’t win!
30 Sep 2012, 03:28 am
@munkiboi-138:
Lambie is 3rd behind Jantjies, Goosen at FH and 3rd behind Kirchner and Aplon at FB.
30 Sep 2012, 03:34 am
nama1,
No we have not beat them by 60 in this century, and neither have you.If i recall it was 1997 you won 61-22 if my memory is right. And since then Aussie have prevailed 20 tests wins to your 15 and the Allblacks 25 to your 12. So whats your point?????
30 Sep 2012, 04:07 am
@Black Power-128:
Here’s my point. You made a comment:
“You Yarpies make me laugh. You get all excited about a win over a depleted 2nd rate Aussie side. You should have beaten them by 60 points.”
I then asked you: “Have you ever…? (p. 131)
You then answered: “No we have not beat them by 60 in this century,…” (p.141)
That was all.
Case closed. No problem.
30 Sep 2012, 04:30 am
nama1
Hit a touchy nerve did i
30 Sep 2012, 06:17 am
Great for the players and Meyer that the Boks won. Glad Habana found a bit of form. But it may be a little early to get carried away in celebration. The Aussies were already a depleted side and had a debilitating run of injuries in the game itself. The Boks place kicking wasn’t good. What is going to happen if we need a conversion or penalty from the sidelines to win by one point? More importantly; how is this fixed? By Louis Koen??
The protection of the ball and support running wasn’t great – we got shoved off, outnumbered or over powered more than once while Bekker et al lolled in the backline. The AB’s could exploit this. Strauss was lucky not to pick up a yellow.
I thought Taute was something of an unsung hero but I guess he has had lots of experience defending with the Lions.
30 Sep 2012, 06:40 am
Wel done Boks! Many positives, especially the win. Flo, Bekker, Vermeulen were huge. Goosen got the line moving nicely – the opposition had no idea what he would be doing, unlike with Morne.
What is going to happen to Frans now? Taute was really good on debut too and linked nicely with de Villiers. Maybe move either Frans or Taute to Fullback. You don’t easily change a winning team and I hope the coach doesn’t.
It was great to see the positivity back in the play. It took the coach quite a while to listen to us, but now that he has, there will be no room for his love children anymore. I guess they are gone for good…
30 Sep 2012, 06:49 am
In a melting pot of anger,
A young buck sheds a tear
Overwhelmed by
the realization of
Love that moves his heart
and a realization
Of the Land that has nurtured him.
While the drills that hammer
The Rock we survive on
And the Sweat that is buried in the Deep
Screams for Justice
and a clean home with running water,
Another heart beats in
Time with this deep desire for Respect.
One young man’s tear
Borne by a lifetime of dedication
Under the tutelage of privilege,
Presents the Furnace of the Underworld
With a new question.
Can I enter?
Because I hear you.
Who is the Judge of
Who is born
Into the role of Victim
Or Victorious,
When Both
Are Bonded by the
Land they Love?
I wonder.
Will the tear and the drill
Meet to expose
The Machinery that corrupts
And interrupts
Their Meeting?
30 Sep 2012, 06:52 am
@143…….. no you were just being a typical arrogant kiwi doos, so hey no problem, its to be expected.
30 Sep 2012, 06:57 am
@whatever-147: Hit the nail on the head,excellent.
30 Sep 2012, 07:00 am
@snivelling little kiwi pricks-148:
yer but go figure he lives in NZ, your boys did quite well against a depleted 14 man Aus team at least the backs have learn’t to catch and pass, how do you think you’ll go against the world and RC champs next week?
30 Sep 2012, 07:11 am
Well done to your Bokks, more enthusiastic and physical than what we could manage, A wins a win, I’m not holding much hope for our team this year, the only positive is that some new blood will get a run, The real test comes next week though, I wouldn’t celebrate too hard yet
30 Sep 2012, 07:21 am
@katman-49: correct
30 Sep 2012, 07:22 am
Bottom Line a lot of positives for sure
HM has finally realized there he cant win with a team full of Blue bulls
Gone hopefully are Spies , Postgieter, Steyn and Greyling
Kirsher still there and did play well
Flow
Bekker
Vermeulen
Goosen
Tauta
All positive additions
Even Jantjies there, who is on form
How could he not see past M steyn??
And the game plan still the same says HM and Jdv ?
No aimless kicks )except a few from Pienaar) and running the ball
How can that not be different?
30 Sep 2012, 07:28 am
After watching the ABs play the Argies well its going to be tough
The ABs were very very good
Boks will really have to step up and play a full 80 min of hard rugby
The least mistakes, not give the ball away, and defend like men possessed
Its possible to beat them, hopefully kicking game is better
30 Sep 2012, 07:34 am
I can say this with full confidence
You cant compare either game and say one team is so much better than the other
Anything can happen in sports and they must still play the game this coming Sat
30 Sep 2012, 07:54 am
Bokke by 8. Its now time for the AB to travel and for the Bokke to moer them considering their lucky escape in Dunedin.
30 Sep 2012, 07:56 am
Calm down boys.
Next week’s game should be VERY good. Maybe the game of the season so far, becasue this week:
- Boks FINALLY finding form and will be at home.
- ABs FINALLY finding the all round game they have been hoping for.
My prediction …….ABs by 3. But it could just go the other way.
30 Sep 2012, 09:05 am
Adriaan Strauss had a good game but gave away lots of penalties.
Personally I would pick Liebenberg to get his first start, he isjust as mobile and just needs to be told no aimless penalties & perhaps Burden should be given a shot off the bench? He would have been great in the last 20 yesterday.
30 Sep 2012, 09:18 am
@Rhys7-157:
He gave away a couple, yes, but he’s much much better than Tian.
Bismark
Daylight
Strauss
Chilliboy
Daylight
Tian
Burden
IMO of course
30 Sep 2012, 09:40 am
Liebenberg is the province version of Greyling, overly aggressive in all the wrong situations. We don’t need players like that, rather guys who think a bit about what they do.
30 Sep 2012, 09:46 am
Much improved performance by the Boks, but would it have been good enough to beat the AB´s?
There were too many errors and missed chances yesterday, but there´s definitely hope for a new era of running Bok rugby. Despite what de Villiers tried to say, it was a completely new game plan and we had two debutants in the backline, so a few teething problems are to be expected.
We´ll need to learn to exploit the dominance of our forwards to its full extent. Although Pienaar had a very good game, he also took some wrong options during phase play, passing to the side where the Wallabies had superior numbers in defense.
We will have to be far more clinical in our finishing as well, although it was comforting to see how many more opportunities we did create to score.
Meyer needs to back his reserves more. I agree with Fitz1ella that Jantjies and de Jongh should have been brought on much sooner. I don´t give a **** what colour players are, as long as they can do the job.
Both the aforementioned made a difference in the measly few minutes they were on the field. De Jongh almost scored and Jantjies created more space in that time than Morné Steyn has in two years.
A feels good to be a Bok supporter today, but we mustn´t lose sight of the fact that it wouldn´t have been as easy yesterday against a non-depleted Aussie side including the likes of Genia, Cooper, O´Connor, Pocock, etc.
The AB´s won´t be as forgiving when we don´t take our chances.
30 Sep 2012, 11:05 am
@Big Hit-44: haha, dont you mean, SA will have a false sense of security.
Admit BH, the AB’s are supreme, just supreme
30 Sep 2012, 12:29 pm
@fitz1ella-61: Been coming onto this site for years and I could swear every time this same this same piece of sht is ranting the same old tune. This is a horrible case of inferiority. Whites this, whites that, boere this supremacists that. What’s wrong with you boy? Go do something worthwhile and then you maybe wont be so ashamed of yourself, boy.
30 Sep 2012, 13:10 pm
Meyer still needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He missed quite a few tricks yesterday and although Boks suddenly look like a rugby team through a few hand forced changes, Spies Gone injury enforced decision, useless combo of Daniel/Kankowski, Potgieter, Coetsee gone, the correct players Vermeulen and Louw providing the correct bolster to the pack eventually. Morne Steyn gone, eventually the penny drops that the dumb idiot coaches couldn’t see how he with FdP have been crippling Boks game for 3 seasons already. Now he instates Pienaar as the No.9 kicking general to run the game and relegates Goosen to a bit part nonentity not enthusing him to be the playmaker or general he should be can actually cripple Boks again. Watch out!!
Also his sheer lack of any courage by hanging both Jantjies and De Jongh out to dry till minute 76 is outright goddamn cowardice and conservation fear ruling his brain and its going to bite him in the arse next weekend.
Backline should be
Taute / Kirchner, Habana / Taute, De Villiers, De Jongh, Habana / Rhule, Goosen / Jantjies / Lambie, Hougaard / Pienaar
30 Sep 2012, 13:24 pm
Taute was less than ordinary yesterday. Kirchner had a good game purely because he does have one good game in five or six bad games. It was his time to have a good game yesterday.
de Villiers is slower than a prop forward. His one break down the left side of the field was as interesting as watching paint dry. He is only good for one thing…to run into defenders like a moron.
Jantjies should get a chance to shoot for posts. He is almost all South Africa has right now that can kick straight in the Bok team. Goosen seems to have some issue or injury or something. Pienaar was off again. Besides that his tactical kicking and delivery to the flyhalf was crisp and accurate. He delivers the ball about ten times quicker than Hougaard. Hougaard is no scrummie.
The forwards were simply outstanding. 8/10.
30 Sep 2012, 13:41 pm
@fitz1ella-33:
You are a f-uck-ing ******. Goosen is superior player to Jantjies. de Jongh is still only a “decent” international player. Taute is on the same level but more versatile.
30 Sep 2012, 14:15 pm
@STBUR-165:
You the dumbfounded morose moron here you numbskull stupefied idiot. Wasn’t it moronic idiot like you that was raving about this meyer messiahs first squad with Potgieter your new f’ng revelation to emerge with Coetsee and Daniel as Meyer’s goddamn genius selected back row? Where all that pathetic genius gone to now…??
Did I say drop Goosen anytime ever you dumbfounded moron personified? I been the most prolific Goosen punter here since LAST YEAR already when he was still playing junior Boks. You a goddamn moron if ever I seen one on this site
Meyer’s handling of Goosen sucks, its going to bite him inn the arse, and the way he handled both Jantjies and De Jongh’s little desperation f’ng 4 minute cameo yesterday smacks of a coach who’s too chicken to **** in case he gets colon cancer, or else its just his inbred witsblitz supremacy blindness Fckng up his dumb deluded brain, just like you are doing to yours much better.
Taute should not be ahead of de Jongh if he looking to ignite the Backline, and neither should Frans Steyn. Either of Taute or Steyn to 15, or Taute to 14, JdV to 13, De Jongh to 12, Habana back to 11, Goosen to start at 10, Hougaard to 9.
Bench Pienaar, Lambie, Jantjies – unless he needs a speedier option on bench then bring in Rhule and drop one of Lambie or Jantjies, preferably Lambie but they both much of a muchness.
That’s it. Now go get your dumb fck delusional ostrich brain out the sand or rather go call Potgieter to come back and play blind side flank like you were calling for at beginning of international series.
The way Meyer is going about instating Pienaar as his FdP type general and taking all kicking duties away from Goosen / Jantjies is going to fck himself up in the eye. Plus the way he deliberated till the 76th minute to introduce both Jantjies and De Jongh smacks not only of outright conservative chickenarse cowardice but also of inherent dumb Boer deficiencies unless its worse than that and they’re only in his team setup to camouflage his real inherent backward unscrupulous thinking.
30 Sep 2012, 14:31 pm
@fitz1ella-166: He’s right though. You are a fcking reeetard. Easily the thickest blogger on keo.
30 Sep 2012, 15:08 pm
@Rhys7-157:
Schalk Britz and Bismack are 2 best hookers in World.shame Britz such a wasted talent at test level.
Meyer building good depth now.
30 Sep 2012, 15:09 pm
@umfezi-160:
very good and balanced analysis. I agree with thoughts.
I think Goosen project is coming along well and now we need to halt the Blacks winning streak
30 Sep 2012, 16:08 pm
169 easier said than done, if they play like they did this morning you have no chance
30 Sep 2012, 19:50 pm
#166 Skopshite your comment about meyer and colon cancer was a new low even for you,it just proves what a evil minded depraved barely human being you really are.My wife had colon cancer and it nearly killed her,the damage it did to her was horrible,and yet you have the audacity to mention HM and cancer especially as his wife i think had cancer truly proves that you are one son of a ***** and a 1st class scum bag.I hope you do not get colon cancer but if you ever do i say good luck to you cos you `ll need it.You and i have had some wordes in the past but after this i hope you piss off and never darken this website again.
30 Sep 2012, 23:16 pm
@blueboy-171: He’s a miserable little man. Life has a way of sorting them out.
30 Sep 2012, 23:25 pm
@katman-172: really fuckwit.. you wanna come try it..does your wife not see what a little runtcunt arsehole you are.. when its so blatantly obvious from here I’m surprised she can’t see it close up…
@blueboy-171: That was a joke about somebody not being able to f’art .. so I used a lousy metaphor.. you decide how much of a heinous sin it is in your books… it had no personal connotations to it ..
and sorry about your wife for whatever it is worth…
1 Oct 2012, 11:40 am
blueboy – Sorry to hear about your wife, very tasteless post by fitz1ella.
Back on rugby. Glad Boks are finally looking forward.
Problem with this Saturday is that generally the ABs play better in SA than they do in New Zealand!! They seem to be able use the energy of the crowd to lift themselves up!! It is like they thrive on the manic SA supporters!!
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