ARU gives Cooper time to think
30 Sep 2012
The Australian Rugby Union will wait until the end of the Rugby Championship to address the Quade Cooper issue.
ARU chief executive John O’Neill told The Sydney Morning Herald that it was necessary to have ‘a cooling off period’ until the end of the competition. This statement by O’Neill comes days after Cooper slammed the ‘toxic environment’ of the Wallabies, and after he took aim at officials.
O’Neil plans to talk to Cooper after the Wallabies’ final match next Saturday. Several senior players will also come forward and address O’Neill once the campaign is completed.
‘Hopefully this will give everyone time to properly think through the situation,’ O’Neill said, adding that he did not want to disrupt the Wallabies’ campaign any further.
Cooper is contracted to the Reds for the next three seasons, but is yet to finalise the Wallabies component to that contract. He recently said that he didn’t want to play for the Wallabies again.
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30 Sep 2012, 08:52 am
Doesn’t sound good for Robbie Deans. He’ll be replaced by Ewen McKenzie before their EOYT. Wily dragons…
30 Sep 2012, 09:06 am
After the way Baele played in the number 10 jersey who cares. He’s a better flyhalf then cooper will ever be.
30 Sep 2012, 09:14 am
I have worked with Aussies a heck of a lot and it was then that I realised just how grumpy and narcissistic they can be. Not all, but most. I even met Aussies that don’t like the company of Aussies for this reason.
Maybe this is what Cooper is experiencing.
30 Sep 2012, 09:37 am
@Predawn-3:
I think the problem is more between the Kiwi approach to a more disciplined approach (Deans) and the more flexible Aussie culture.
30 Sep 2012, 10:02 am
Deans is clearly not the right answer to their coaching issues.
30 Sep 2012, 10:02 am
White could bring these guys around.
30 Sep 2012, 10:24 am
I am not really sure why everyone is suddenly on about Deans. The Wallabies are number 2 in the world rankings, have an excellent record against the number 3 side, and the only thing they can’t do is consistently beat the AB’s, but no one else can either. The current team is massively handicapped by what might be a record number of first team injuries, and that isn’t Deans fault either. If they lose to Arg next week it will be the B/C Wallabies team, and I don’t think any other coach is going to handle that much better. At least today the Wallabies actually have a B and C team. Before Deans took over they barely had an A team.
As for the spat with Cooper, if Deans is the catalyst for Cooper to F off to league, he will have done them a favour. Cooper playing behind a dominant pack and full of confidence can be a real game winner. Most of the time however he is just average or worse with the occasional spark of brilliance to make you forget how truly average he really is. He wouldn’t even be the number 4 ten for the AB’s. As for giving Cooper another week to think about things, I doubt that his brain works that fast.
30 Sep 2012, 10:48 am
Lets hope Cooper doesn’t get bored in his time off.
Local media report that Neighbourhood Watch has been informed.
30 Sep 2012, 10:49 am
will be interesting if it is just cooper of whether other aussie players speak out. will wait and see. john mitchel was also a good coach. but in aussie the players rule and when they want a new coach they usually get it.
30 Sep 2012, 11:07 am
#7 Aliboy your assessment of Cooper is spot on. I was surprised a couple of years ago when some were rating him as the new messiah. To me he was a flash in the pan, unproven under pressure. And how true that has played out.
30 Sep 2012, 11:11 am
cooper and think in the same sentence?
30 Sep 2012, 12:05 pm
@Predawn-6:
hahaha
yeah what ever. Will White sit there and read his book to the Ozzies?
30 Sep 2012, 12:08 pm
@aliboy-7:
Yep, spot on
Some fools on here think White could do better and how the **** do they know?
Deans has had a terrible time with injuries and with no backup players that are
in the same league.
30 Sep 2012, 12:19 pm
@Hurricane-13:
Don’t huff and puff pardner. You’ll blow a seal. Not the animal kind I hope.
30 Sep 2012, 12:33 pm
White is the most overrated self aggrandized twatarsed idiot on the planet, but Deans gentlemanly approach don’t work with these rebellious rubble. The best coach in Australia by some distance is Ewen Mckenzie who should have been given the Aussie job before Deans.
Mckenzie will reinvent the Aussie cause with some hard headed driving discipline, Deans can’t handle these dudes but Whites just a big puffed up smoke screen balloon all huff and fck’all puff just like Cooper.
30 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm
Oh sh*t. Looks like we’re on our way out of the T20.
30 Sep 2012, 12:57 pm
The ARU should tell Cooper to f#ck off. His star has faded and his behavior is disgraceful. There should be no question of allowing him to represent Australia again. And the Reds should make him pay a hefty fee if he wants to get out of his contract.
30 Sep 2012, 13:00 pm
@Pencil-2:
not sure if people make these kind of comments because they are annoyed with Cooper but lets be honest with the right coach and team Quade is the best 10 available to Aussie , Beale is a great full back full stop
e.g look at how the Reds played in 2011 with EM as coach and Cooper 10 Genia at 9 . If you still think that Beale or anyone is a better 10 than Cooper then goodluck to you and that crack pipe you are puffing on .
Yes he might be behaving a bit oddly and whinging , im sure he’s got his reasons but losing Cooper is big deal for ARU its very much like the the Frans Steyn fiasco.
30 Sep 2012, 13:04 pm
@fitz1ella-15:
Don’t hold back. Say what you mean with a few expletives. We don’t really get your drift.
30 Sep 2012, 13:05 pm
WHICH of the following is Quade Cooper?
a) An honest, forthright, gutsy individual who only wants the best for Australian rugby.
b) An honest, forthright, gutsy individual who only wants the best for Quade Cooper.
c) A naive, easily-led mouthpiece happy to parrot whatever his management team thinks will increase his net worth.
d) A deep-thinking pioneer who wants to move the code away from “irrelevant” old school values.
e) A selfish dope.
f) A selfless dope.
g) JUST what the code needs.
h) The last thing the code needs.
i) All or many of the above.
Andrew Slack- The Sunday Mail (Qld)
30 Sep 2012, 13:08 pm
Don’t really care. If he were a South African he would be getting it in the neck from every single blogger between here and Sydney.
Now because he’s an Aussie he’s suddenly a free thinker.
30 Sep 2012, 13:22 pm
Or they could just tell the thieving marshmallow balls numpty to p!ss off to rugby league
30 Sep 2012, 13:28 pm
@stormer in a teacup-22:
Lol!
30 Sep 2012, 13:35 pm
@Predawn-14:
No huffing or puffing. My opinion is that White is not as great as you think he is.
30 Sep 2012, 13:35 pm
The whole thing is a pity- rugby needs players who can entertain like Quade and SBW. I was present at newlands last year when Quade destroyed the Stormers with a magnificent display making Peter Grant look like a primary school kid who has never played rugby before- hope they can sort this out somehow so that we can see more of him.
30 Sep 2012, 13:39 pm
@Hurricane-24:
I dunno hey. He took the Brumbies to places they have not been to for years in the Super Series. His rugby CV is quite impressive. More A+’s, A’s and B’s than F’s.
30 Sep 2012, 13:54 pm
@fitz1ella-15: Skoppie were you not the one raving madly about Cooper not too long ago? No he is suddenly overrated.
30 Sep 2012, 13:58 pm
@aliboy-7: convicts were no.2 – were not are.
30 Sep 2012, 14:02 pm
@RL-28: Indeed.
“While defeat could prove costly for South Africa, a victory by more than 15 points will see them climb above Australia into second place, a position they last occupied before their Rugby World Cup 2011 quarter final defeat by the Wallabies.”
http://www.irb.com/rankings/news/newsid=2063677.html#springboks+four+spot+line
The Boks are now No. 2 and the Wallabies are No. 3.
30 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
@RL-27: Anything longer than two weeks is some kind of record streak with Skoppie. If he were the selector we’d have around 16 new Boks for every game.
30 Sep 2012, 14:28 pm
@RL-27:
Nope unlike you I never raved about Cooper, I always said he was flash in the pan overrated, go find me a post where I raved about Cooper. I raved about Genia plenty and maybe mentioned them as a combo but I ALWAYS said Cooper was more show and less substance, unlike you and HG and some others who reckoned Cooper was the premier 10 in the world about 12 months ago. I always knew he was going to blow and couldn’t handle high pressure situations which he’s proved often enough, and I was convinced he wasn’t best 10 in Aussie a long time ago already.
30 Sep 2012, 14:39 pm
@katman-30: you talk sh’t you two faced little flunked out fckup.. Go find me a post where I raved about Cooper. You’ll find PLENTY by YOU raving about him, and you’ll find PLENTY by me saying he’s NOT the bees knees of rugby 10′s that arseholes like you think he is. I doubt you find me saying anything regarding his so called genius because I called him out as being a fancy soft option LONG ago already. Long before when most here were still raving about him.
The selections I put forward are ALWAYS spot on and WAY ahead of the rest of the dumbfounded kenner society here, also WAY ahead of the dumb delusional coach who only learns by trial and error chickenshit knee jerk reactionary tactics.
30 Sep 2012, 14:41 pm
Is it my imagination or has Parnell done a Cat Stevens and turned to bogshite since he gave up bacon?
30 Sep 2012, 14:45 pm
@fitz1ella-32: The thing is, you can say pretty much anything regarding your calls here, and you’d be 100% correct. Because there’s literally no player you haven’t shot your load about at some stage. I;m still waiting for you to come full circle on your Duvenhage/Grant era of not so long ago. You were having 12 strokes a night here when describing the stupidity of that runtcunt broederbond coach who would slot them both straight into the Bok starting 15. Yes, that’s you, fcken fraud. Even a broken watch is right twice a day. Now get lost old man.
30 Sep 2012, 14:48 pm
AB is just not the captain that Botha is. It’s a shame he is going to arsetralia.
30 Sep 2012, 15:15 pm
@katman-34: Actually, he gave up on Grant as long ago as 2010 (at least, on October 31 anyway):
254.skopskiet:
31 Oct 2010, 22:21 pm @Robzim(Robzim) : Hi Rob Yes I think Peter Grants days have come and gone, unfortunately with rugby its like most things unless you strike while the iron is hot you lose the opportunities when presented, they had their chances to play Grant to effective capacity through 08 and 09 at Boks and went the opposite direction, to our so called traditional strength oblivion.
30 Sep 2012, 15:53 pm
I reckon that Cooper has been ‘found out’. The good teams know how to put pressure on him and he can’t perform under pressure
. The AB’s have his number and he knows that he dare not let some of the fat boys club find him on the bottom of a ruck after how he behaved last year. I am quite sure that the Bok fatties will have worked out that Quade is a bit shy about getting his hairdo mussed as well. Whilst Beale is the new 10 for now, what happens when OConner comes back? I got the impression that he might have already displaced QC if he hadn’t got injured.
30 Sep 2012, 17:15 pm
@kaksioek-36: He’s given up on him at least three times since then too. As recently as the Super Rugby tournament this year he was manically calling for Duvenhage and Grant to play for the Boks, and when anyone questioned this, the rabid spittle of indignant outrage would fly clean across the interwebs.
30 Sep 2012, 18:22 pm
@stormer in a teacup-33:
what do you mean by he’s given up bacon?
30 Sep 2012, 22:51 pm
@Predawn-26:
Before the RWC majority of you guys wanted him kicked out.
His win loss ratio before the RWC was not good at all.
This is his career coaching the boks and after in short.
Losed 3 out of 4 tri nations, some were hidings.
Hired an Ozzie coach, wins the RWC against 5-12th placed teams and writes a book. Takes a super 15 team to 7th place ( Brumbies new team ) , remember the Hurricanes came 8th with a new coach that has never really coached top rugby and they had a newish team as well.
So you can see why this famous JW being a top coach does not really mix with me. Again my opinion.
30 Sep 2012, 23:08 pm
@katman-38: you talk garbage from out you pseudo little arsecreep halfwit half of nothing fanny faced snout.. pathetic little runtcunt from the wrong side of the mine dump track…
Grant should have been Bok fly half in 2008..and through to 2010.. that is when I was rooting for Grant to Bok fly half you little piece of two faced trash… if you so belligerently want to follow my posts go check what I said about dropping Pienaar from fly half in 2009 .. I said it was a mistake and that he should have STUCK at 10 from 2009 – 2011.. Bok fly halves should have been Grant and Pienaar until the new breed of Goosen / Jantjies / Lambie came along. .. NOT Morne Steyn.. that was my stance throughout 2008 -2010
I backed Duvenhage approximately a year ago.. I fancied Duvenhage as a better scrum half than most the other contenders like Mcleod, Bondisio, Vermaak and a few others.. but I always rated Hougaard and Pretorius as the top 2 scrum halves in the country.. That was THEN.. and Now is NOW..!!!
You are the kind of little piece of garbage that needs you fckup pseudo snout wiped clean.. and I’ll do you that favor anytime you like you little garbage arsed piece of trash scum.
30 Sep 2012, 23:31 pm
@fitz1ella-41:
155.ashampoopaloo:
28 Feb 2012, 20:07 pm
Hoffman is nowhere nearly as composed or technically gifted as Duvenhage.. Duvenhage actually possesses the full compliment of true scrum half disciplines and capabilities.. he has a deft kicking game to go with his efficient service and a clear awareness of what opportunities present themselves in the open game scenario.. Hougaard only knows flat out in a hurry or wait forever, he don’t have the vision nor the capacity to vary or pry defenses with an educated boot… which Duvenhage has FdP may have had such vision but FdP was far too selfish and far too much of an overbearing influence on the team… Duvenhage in my view has a far better balanced and overall contributory ability to get his team going forward in the correct mix between kicking and running mode.. Mcleod for me is still a notch above Hoffman at Sharks, and Michalak should fudge off back to France… I would punt Duvenhage as Bok scrumhalf now and play Hougaard off bench as a versatile option to cover other positions in the backs… the new Pienaar if you like..
30 Sep 2012, 23:33 pm
Pay special attention to the date, you lying little weasel of a man.
You flip flop so often I’m surprised you even try to contest my claim. There’s no hope in hell that you’ll remember all your bipolar selections.
30 Sep 2012, 23:35 pm
166.ashampoopaloo:
28 Feb 2012, 22:07 pm
I’ve always been impressed with Duvenhage’s game, no more so when he slotted in at Fly Half and took the game away from the Blues when all our other fly halves went down… He hasn’t always functioned at 100% efficiency but I prefer Duvenhage’s style of game to most the other 9?s in the country, it seems the most balanced one between all the stand in 9?s of Hougaard, Vermaak, Mcleod, Hoffman, Bondisio and De Bruyn, Duvenhage still comes out tops in terms of composed tactical attributes compared to Hougaard’s flat out physical approach. I was punting for Hougaard to take Bok 9 spot last year at the WC I think we would have done far better with Hougaard at 9 than with FdP, but now I think I would have Hougaard and Duvenhage as the 2 No.9?s in the squad with possibly Duvenhage starting and Hougaard off bench…
30 Sep 2012, 23:35 pm
It’s all there in the google. Does your nokia have the google?
30 Sep 2012, 23:37 pm
so where is Hoffman now .. or Mcleod for that matter…
Duvenhage has disappointed but he did have a good grasp of general play in a similar fashion to what Pienaar is producing today.. and had a good 2011 as a result with a mixing up of kicking and distribution in his game….but like Pienaar he is too slow at clearing from the base of scrum.. and has fallen far behind as a result.
He is still better than Hoffman by miles.. and miles..
30 Sep 2012, 23:38 pm
Got to love this one. Notice how it stacks up to you claim above here that you “always rated Hougaard and Pretorius as the top 2 scrum halves in the country”. Sies man, jy’s mos ‘n lieggbek.
168.ashampoopaloo:
28 Feb 2012, 22:14 pm
Duvenhage is a better tactical and technically gifted scrum half than Hougaard. Just like every other call I have made in terms of quality around players attributes in recent times which some these keo schmucks only much later cotton onto and start coming around to realizzing i was correct all along.. so too will they discover what i am saying this time is also correct.. Duvenhage is a better all round balanced technical and tactically aware scrum half to Hougaard.
30 Sep 2012, 23:39 pm
@fitz1ella-46: Are you trying to deflect the issue gere, fuzzy little manpeach? Which is, of course, your devious forked tongue.
30 Sep 2012, 23:40 pm
keep googling runt face maybe you find a few more GEMS … piece of garbage arsed trash…that need your little punk face snout sorted for you so that your pseudo intelligence gets the right about face from where you think you are actually at.. you little punk eyed fanny faced rat..
30 Sep 2012, 23:42 pm
It just gets better and better.
181.ashampoopaloo:
29 Feb 2012, 09:58 am
Same as I am right about Duvenhage, and about Johann Goosen as the 2 best options for half back combination gong forward
Same as I am right about most things pertaining to Springbok rugby only you dumb ignoramus idiots only realize such realities after they have dawned and been and gone.. while I see and realize them long before they happened…
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