Yes BEE is JUSTIFIABLE DISCRIMINATION. Get used to it. human decency by Africa to Uropeans in SA staggering, unheard. please open eyes.
no of course you say farm murders, crime etc… of course, maar when you demonize, you get demons

Maybe the Madagascar plan would have been better, albeit proposed by devil’s spawn, no agressive neighbours to give you c-rap

Imagine what they would have accomplished with a tropical island, if they managed to make the desert bloom?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16526469

Israel’s Supreme Court has upheld a law banning Palestinians who marry Israelis from gaining Israeli citizenship.

Then returned under Cyrus the great who conquered Babylon and freed the Jews back to Judah.

Colonized by Persia, then Greeks, then Romans and then a few centuries later the birth of Christianity under Roman empire and Judaism in Palestine became divested of any nationalist regimented identity.

Few hundred years later and birth of Muhammadan empire .. so Jews as such were always either colonized or controlled by more powerful rulers .. their national heritage was not powerful enough to sustain sovereign identity in a land always under siege from surrounding colonizing powers. Hence once the new controlling powers of Christian and Muslim hierarchies fought tooth and nail over control of these ‘holy’ territories the Jews simply made way and sought to make other lives for themselves in diaspora countries until the custodians in these diaspora environments persecuted them into seeking shelter and existence elsewhere. From Russia to Germany to France and western Europe and to the near east and far east, even to countries like Persia / Iran and Turkey and Yemen and India and Morocco did the Jew make his home under other religious rulers and countries.

Until the recent persecution in Germany when the UN and Balfour declaration determined they could get their own country back where they once belonged before Persian, Greek and Roman colonization and destruction overruled their existence there before.

> Modern Israel is only 64 years old, perhaps if Israeli and Palestinian politicians could see eye to eye they could share the country. I’m not sure or convinced that would be possible with the ideological and religious division and fanaticism that exists there.. But perhaps it is possible after all.

Never say never, look at Northern Ireland, it also looked unsolveable

ja id actually smaak to go to israel – except those schlameels speaka da hebrew, cant understand a gdam word.

> difference between a nation state and apartheid.

Minority ruling the majority who has a rightful claim to the land?

Same old same old

> you are welcome into israel, regardless if you arab or not, provided you dont want to blow their asses up – seems fair.

You can only become an Israeli if you’re jewish, Palestinians married to Israelis can’t become citizens

Doesn’t that sound familiar?

but what cab is saying also bears some accuracy.. that if the Jew would relinquish political or territorial control over Israel he would possibly be wiped out and driven off the land into the sea. He would no longer have his own country he can call his own.. Perhaps this is his inherited lot on this world that the Jew is bound to always have to be at the brink of survival and cling to an identity by sheer survival instinct. Modern Israel is only 64 years old, perhaps if Israeli and Palestinian politicians could see eye to eye they could share the country. I’m not sure or convinced that would be possible with the ideological and religious division and fanaticism that exists there.. But perhaps it is possible after all.

> problem is they were returned to the land they have a strong historical claim same as their semitic boeties, but they all fighting over religious ****.

If they’ve left it and someone else lived there for a couple of hundred years, how can you come back and claim it all as your own and kick the guys off it?

Why did you leave it unattended in the first place?

you are welcome into israel, regardless if you arab or not, provided you dont want to blow their asses up – seems fair.

apartheid say you not welcome if you not white, even if you dont want to blow our assses up – seems unfair.

> but the point of the two-state system is that the israelis want to give palestinians their own land

Still Apartheid by any other name

And not very fair

> whereas the palestinians and every others surrounding arab state in the area want to wipe the israelis out

They’re going down s-hit creek without a paddle

All their neighbours are being or in the process of being run by Militants

Iran will get nukes

If the Israelis bomb their facilities it would only delay them for a couple of years, and it would turn the few moderates in the region against them as well

The American influence in the Middle East is deminishing and they won’t fight a war there again not even to defend Israel.

sa white boertjies aint seen fkall persecution extermination talk from blacks, some of hugenuts were persecuted by their boertjie and french boeties, but not from africans, no need for homeland, boertjie not been persecuted and besides boertjie got no historical land claim whatsoever other than Jan van der Riebeek falling out the dromedaaris.

> i doubt there is any country or identity on earth thats surrounded by such hate on all sides.

We’re not talking about their neighbours, we’re talking about the citizens of Israel, the Sabras and the Palistinians

The solution for their country would be an all inclusive government

> The African is far more amiable to integration and peaceful coexistence than the Arab

Isn’t that a bit racist, so an Arab is more violent ie backwards?

Aren’t we all equal?

> the israelis had various governments which have tried to bend over backward to seek a two-state solution , assafat was never interested

Exactly, remember the Tricameral government?

The ANC wanted no part of it either

> problem is they got holy places in common

More the reason to make it one country with one man one vote