I rate the Ndugane twins but they would be behind Basson, Habana, Mvovo,Pietersen,Aplon & Ludik for a bok winger role imo

maybe even play taute there ahead of them..harsh but true.. In 2009they should.have both been there. Pietersen was off form and Aplon was just coming through

gurthro too would be a good investment to bring back.

also agreed on the development, not so much of the centers themselves, but of the skill set and abiltiy to play a different game plan / style of play.

bulls need a ‘thinking’ scrummie too.

Rather than paying big money for Sadie, Engelbrecht, etc we need to get some big tight five forwards back. Guthro Steenkamp is no1 on my list and Danie Rossouw no2. A flyhalf that can think on his feet to make the right decisions and execute them is then no3. I am very disappointed in Fouche. His decision making is shocking.

Personally i rate him the fact that the bulls pack gets beaten up almost everyweek in the cc as well as playing outside of the woefully inconsistant fouche does not help.

fair points. I dont believe pace is an issue at 12. The protential is there and his defence is strong. S15 next year will be crucial for him.

@londonshark-8:

give him time. Him and Sefontein will be playing S15 next year.

Interesting (coaches thing).

Odwa is a great Currie Cup player. And a ‘squad’ Super Rugby player. His skill set has improved a massive amount since the early days (he could hardly catch back then). Fast learner.

If he had out and out pace, he would be awesome.

if i am not mistaken akona played all his tests under jake and odwa played all his tests under pdv.

odwa was great over the weekend for the sharks though.

I’m baffled by that too. I think Akona has been more injury prone. He’s had long term problems with his shins, I believe.

Akona to me is by far the better player (seems quicker too).

Big call. He’s done zip so far in senior rugby.

Agree. Nothing special yet (and it’s his 2nd or 3rd season).

Lions by 12!!!

Btw, I see the bulls have discovered that the only way to keep Dean in check is to hide him away in the reserve fullback position. Nice. Give him 15 minutes with Louis Koen and he can replace Lambie on the NH tour.

Francois Hougaard
Chilliboy Rallepelle
CJ Stander
Frik Kirsten and even Dean Greyling
Not to mention Fouche who was our starting flyahlf all season, and Wilhelm Steenkamp who was our starting lock.

They can all have a massive impact in the last 30 minutes.

Whether we’ll win or not, well, who knows? This team isn’t really flying high at the moment, so I have no clue what type of performance they’ll dish up from one weekend to the next.

Very frustrating.

I’ve lost some of my early enthusiasm regarding Francois Venter. While he looked great at junior level, he is not really setting the scene alight at senior level.

He runs good lines and has good general play, but I can’t help but wonder about his pace, or lack thereof. Maybe I’m wrong, and maybe a 12 doesn’t need to have pace anymore, ala Frans Steyn, but I think the jury is still out on this young man’s potential to be a Bok.

Francois Venter wear the Bok 12 jersey next year