Butch leads, Jantjies benched
11 Oct 2012
Flyhalf Butch James will captain the Golden Lions when they host the Blue Bulls in an important derby this Saturday.
Coach Johan Ackerman has resisted the temptation to push Elton Jantjies straight into the starting side, and so the returning Bok flyhalf will play from the bench.
James’s elevation to captain is also the result of CJ van der Linde starting in place of regular skipper JC Janse van Rensburg. Pat Cilliers is also back from Bok duty to bolster the front row, while another returning Bok squad member in Lionel Mapoe is included on the bench.
Jaco Taute, who started for the Boks at outside centre last week, has been rested according Lions management.
Golden Lions – 15 Ruan Combrinck, 14 Deon Helberg, 13 Deon van Rensburg, 12 Alwyn Hollenbach, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Butch James (c), 9 Ross Cronje, 8 Willie Britz, 7 Dercik Minnie, 6 Jaco Kriel, 5 Ruan Botha, 4 Michael Rhodes, 3 Pat Cilliers, 2 Callie Visagie, 1 CJ van der Linde.
Subs: 16 Bandise Maku, 17 Jacobie Adriaanse, 18 Paul Willemse, 19 Warren Whiteley, 20 Whestley Moolman, 21 Elton Jantjies, 22 Lionel Mapoe.
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11 Oct 2012, 21:14 pm
el classico.. that must be when the one ponce with the white shirt tries showing how much more of a prima donna he is than the other ponce with the stripy shirt and see who can dance and dive theatrically better than the other one. for 90 minutes solid.. and they try and tell you this is riveting entertaining sport.. up and down the goddamn field.. pass to this one then pass to that one like ping pong or pinball on grass.. the ball kinda ricochets from one pair of boots to the other and if you really lucky.. you MAY be rewarded sometime within 90 minutes of playing time with the ball actually landing up in the opponents net.. if you lucky.. otherwise plenty times it misses or gets blocked before it reaches the goal. Which is the object of the exercise after all.. to kick the ball into the opponents net, sometime within 90 minutes at least once and hopefully more than once..
No wonder Willy Webb Ellis decided this was a loada codswallop and picked the bloody boring thing up and started high tailing it to the other end.. at least Willy Webb Ellis had some goddamn grey matter between his ears and realized if you wanna make something HAPPEN within 90 minutes get after the damn thing and make with some ACTION of getting the object of the exercise DONE…thank fck
But now in saffa land they reckon its all about hoofing it between the sticks.. that is NOT what Willy Webb Ellis had in mind.. maybe the bokkies should stick to soccer and let those that wanna run and CARRY the ball get on with getting the job done.
11 Oct 2012, 21:20 pm
check this little snot nosed pseudo closet racist come here and pretend he’s a fckng ‘sportsman’ (or so he thinks) for smacking a little wound up ball of elastic around some green grass and that represents ‘sport’ to this pseudo little fucknut gone all haywire wrong…
stick to bullshitting you little runtcunt piece of trash.. like I already told you any time you need your fckup head fixed for you say the word I fix your rancid fck’d up arrogance so quick you be thanking me profusely till your dying day little piece of pseudo racist cn’t gone wrong.
11 Oct 2012, 21:22 pm
For all those feeling sorry for the Lions, here’s a reminder why thy’re out…
2006 – P 13, W 2, L 10, D 1
2007 – P 13, W 5, L 8, D 0
2008 – P 13, W 2, L 10, D 1
2009 – P 13, W 4, L 9, D 0
2010 – P 13, W 0, L 13, D 0
2011 – P 16, W 3, L 12, D 1
2012 – P 16, W 3, L 13, D 0
TOTAL – P 97, W 19, L 75, D 3
11 Oct 2012, 21:27 pm
@mxhosa-253: tell it to the white redundant rooibontes around here.. they still getting to grips with the fact that their hegemonous heritage has already gone belly up and its time for a new set of circumstances to see if they can ressurect a destitute dynasty to step up to the plate
11 Oct 2012, 21:28 pm
@fitz1ella-248: I read the first 3 lines of your post and I propose who are you, (who must around spend roughly 10 hours a week -conservative – guess arguing on this blog with people you’ll never meet, to comment on people wasting time?
Also you’re usually really pissed off so you can’t be enjoying it can you?
@Transformation-243: Very good thanks Transie.
Finishing off third year and pushing for Honours if I can up my work ethic. It’s pretty despicable to be honest haha. Too much Sport on the weekends to watch!
11 Oct 2012, 21:30 pm
So what is it, you drooling fcken windowlicker? Am I a racist or a pseudo racist? Do you even know what pseudo means? Trying to pass yourself off here as someone of “intellect”. What a tremendously sad fcken joke.
11 Oct 2012, 21:36 pm
@Bagel-255: that’s what people do on blogs.. they waste time.. this is a blog after all.. a time wasting escapade of zero consequence.. so what you doing here then.. like me.. you wasting time..
just like this pisswilly little fuckface katmankunt who spends most parts of his day here.. I just come on usually at night time to waste some time..
@katman-256: you a closet racist.. a pseudo intelligent pseudo enlightened racist.. that’s who you are.. get it through your pseudo intellectual head.. and get to know who you are.. that way you can try fix the fuckup pseudo intelligentsia bourgeois racist prick you are punk face twit.
11 Oct 2012, 21:39 pm
@mxhosa-253:
Nothing to be proud of.
Why are they complaining?
11 Oct 2012, 21:40 pm
@fitz1ella-257: That’s the last resort of the weak and feeble, my socially retarded friend. When you have nothing else left in your little sack of insults, turn to the racist catalogue. Whattacock.
11 Oct 2012, 21:47 pm
@fitz1ella-254:
Boktos
SeasonPool/Group
No of Teams
Position
Play-Off Result
1992
Currie Cup
6
6th
1993
Currie Cup
6
3rd
1994
Currie Cup
6
6th
1995
Currie Cup
6
6th
1996
Currie Cup Section A
7
5th
1997
Currie Cup
14
14th
1998
Currie Cup
14
9th
1999
Currie Cup
14
7th
2000
Currie Cup Section X
7
5th
Bankfin Cup1
6
1st
Losing Finalists
2001
Currie Cup Section X
7
7th
Bankfin Cup1
6
3rd
2002
Currie Cup Section Y
7
7th
Bankfin Cup1
6
3rd
2003
Currie Cup Qualifying
First Division
2004
Currie Cup Qualifying
First Division
2005
Premier Division Section X
7
5th
First Division2
2006
First Division
6
4th
Losing Finalists
2007
First Division
6
2nd
Losing Finalists
2008
First Division
6
6th
2009
First Division
6
4th
Losing Semi-Finalists
2010
First Division
6
2nd
Champions
Promotion/Relegation
2
2nd
Failed to win promotion.
2011
First Division
6
2nd
Losing Finalists
11 Oct 2012, 21:49 pm
@katman-259: who got chips the size of Gibraltar weighing them down you miserable little piece of pseudo intelligent racist scum.. who.. you pisswilly little ultra right racist prick..?? you and that other white garbage creep that think your white racist arse smells like strawberry puffed up candy floss.. you and that other piece of ultra right ‘English speaking’ racist trash and who got the absolute GALL to raise your precocious little fucknut racist voice telling them they got a racist chip on their shoulder when it is YOU ‘anglicized’ racists and you ALONE with the absolute malady of racism eating through your very core.. you pseudo enlightened racist scum.. that is WHO you are.. racist scum.. you think I don’t SEE who you trying to pretend you are NOT?
11 Oct 2012, 21:51 pm
@victoriabok-260: whats all that
Lions or EP results?
11 Oct 2012, 21:55 pm
Ha ha ha, what a cheap phony little ****** you are. Little jewish man from the Rand, living in your suburbs, shopping in your malls, driving your middle class cars for decades and decades. And your BIG contribution to the struggle was that you voted PFP? Because that all the law allowed you to do? And you have the gall to come and lecture me? Call me a racist? You ARE the old South Africa, mate. Old white toppies like you – jew or gentile – are first up against the wall. So stuff that in your organic bong and smoke the fcker. You’re a fraud.
11 Oct 2012, 22:04 pm
@victoriabok-260:
Sorry about that, I was trying to edit EP/Elephants/Kings’ CC and First Division stats
Since 1888 they’ve never won the CC (or even reached a final), First Division, Bankfin Cup or Vodacom Cup
The Lions have won the Super 10, 10 Currie Cups and 4 Vodacom Cups
EP/Elephants/Kings
1992-1995 4 times 6th
1996 7th
1997-1999 14th, 9th 7th
2000 5th Section X CC 1st Bankfin cup
2001 7th Section X CC 3d Bankfin cup
2002 7th Section X CC 3d Bankfin
2005 5th Section X CC
2006-2011 First Division 4x 2nd, 2x 4th, 1x 5th and 1x 6th
11 Oct 2012, 22:04 pm
@katman-263: I got fckall struggle credential kntface.. I told you that already.. I got sweet fanny fckall struggle credentials whatsoever .. but I see racist swine **** like you through and through, .. and when little runtcunt garbage filth the likes of you want to start throwing racist chirps regarding others racist chips on the shoulder remarks around here you little feeble fuckup ultra right racist garbage cn’t then I TELL you WHO you feeble little pseudo intellectual piece of ultra right racist Cn’t ARE..
You f’ng piece of outright garbage trash that you are.. WHO the fck you little feeble fuckwit filthy racist scum think you are chucking your little cleverdick innuendos around that OTHERS have racist chips on their shoulders when it is YOU and that other ‘English’ speaking racist garbage filth that you hobnob rub nose in cahoots with here who need you f’ng racist lights turned out.
11 Oct 2012, 22:10 pm
@fitz1ella-265: You got nothing, pal, except your years and years of anger and this handy thing that fell into your lap with he dawn of democracy: the “you’re a racist” accusation. It’s handy because you can just fling it around willy nilly, it needs no qualification and it puts you on the other end of the accusation. Or so you think. But we see through your old school white hide, pal. You don’t get to use the accusation. You haven’t changed your spots at all.
11 Oct 2012, 22:11 pm
little cn’t pretends he’s an enlightened white English speaking snob nosed little bourgeoisie hobnobbing intelligentsia educated supreme white trash intellect, and he reckons he can tell what a fraud is…
11 Oct 2012, 22:15 pm
@katman-266: listen fckface I see you you miserable little two faced RAT… I see you and these white arsed pieces of ‘superior’ educated garbage snob nosed racist scum right HERE you miserable little fckface racist RAT.. keep it up.. there is NO hiding from the fact of WHO you little piece of racist scum faced rat ARE.. NONE at all.. keep showing who you are you garbage racist scum.. and I’ll keep calling you out for who in FACT you ARE.. punkface racist piece of trash rat.
11 Oct 2012, 22:18 pm
Saying it over and over and over and over and over won’t make it so. But don’t stop. It’s amusing to see how many combinations of your childish profanities you can string together before the whole pattern starts to repeat. It has an almost mathematical beauty. Please carry on.
11 Oct 2012, 22:23 pm
by all means you are a RACIST katmankunt.. no matter HOW you try pretend and hide your REAL inherent thoughts and scum faced intentions.. your outright racist remarks are absolutely visible to anyone who can see you for EXACTLY who you are.. a white skinned outright filthy racist.. that is who you ARE.. get to GRIPS with the reality of the fact.. and perhaps you can get RID of the real racist malady eating through your fckup pseudo intelligent ‘superior’ racially infested brain.
11 Oct 2012, 22:23 pm
haha
You two at it again.
wow, who needs kiwis if you guys rip each other apart . We can never make you guys that angry no matter how hard we try
11 Oct 2012, 22:30 pm
Make it stop
11 Oct 2012, 22:33 pm
get rid of the pseudo insinuating garbage filthy two faced underhand racists and it will stop
11 Oct 2012, 22:41 pm
@Hurricane-271:
I have to congratulate you Hurricane, I had the nicest leg of lamb from your part of the country on Monday for Thanksgiving
It came from the New Zealand Lamb Co in Wellington
I know lamb well, used to breed sheep in SA, and this one was as good as any, thanks
11 Oct 2012, 22:47 pm
@victoriabok-274:
Yeah i heard we make a good lamb. Practically all of the good lamb gets exported.
Glad you enjoyed it.
11 Oct 2012, 22:50 pm
@Hurricane-275:
They’re not that fond of lamb over here, I don’t know why
A friend of mine in the US said during WWII the Army ran out of meat and started buying lamb and mutton from American farmers, and the guys sold all they had to them, including old tough ewes.
That combined with Army cooks put a generation or two of Americans off lamb
11 Oct 2012, 23:03 pm
@victoriabok-276:
haha
Thats a laugh.
12 Oct 2012, 04:38 am
@victoriabok-264: i’m sure you realised that Mxhosa was posting SUPER RUGBY results since the GLRU wanted to ‘stand alone’ from the Cats franchise…the South Eastern Cape franchise aka the Spears/Kings do NOT have an equivalent history of results, good or bad, to compare as the Lions were illegally allowed to continue their mediocrity for 7 whole years without consequence.
it is no coincidence that in 2006 & now in 2012 the same franchise is still faced with relegation but the difference this time is the Hoskins has NO f.cking room to be corrupt & buy shares in the Kings will the sole purpose of DESTROYING them & allow the Lions to continue their mediocrity uninterrupted.
12 Oct 2012, 04:55 am
AIG new AB jersey sponsor, huge amount of money which will safeguard the game in NZ.
12 Oct 2012, 06:36 am
blackpanty is probably having a FIT right now, a SPONSOR’S logo on their hallowed all black jersey? i thought it was only the likes the Springboks who ‘prosticuted’ their jersey & honour
Controversial insurance giant
AIG will sponsor the All Blacks
until at least early 2018, in a
deal which includes having its
logo across the front of the
black jersey.
AIG was bailed out by the US government to the tune of
$182 billion in 2008, one of the
biggest failures of the global
financial crisis.
While the company has since
recovered somewhat, and is
buying back its stock from the
US Treasury, there is still
concern the company’s
underlying businesses are still
struggling, according to
Businessweek.
12 Oct 2012, 07:00 am
@Transformation-280: cue Bakkies – the financially bankrupt sponsoring the morally bankrupt
12 Oct 2012, 07:27 am
@trupisero-281:
nail on the proverbial farking head trupi….nail on the farking head….
12 Oct 2012, 07:50 am
@Transformation-280:
Apparently O’Neil has resigned as head of the ARU.
12 Oct 2012, 10:23 am
Another shambles in South African Rugby, with the effective undermining of the Lions Rugby Union in terms of the Super 15 !
THE KEO CONNECTION
Highbury Safika Media (HSM) is a publishing house boasting a portfolio of over 30 magazine titles and numerous online publications. Amongst these are SA Rugby Magazine and Keo.co.za – the website of Mark Keohane and other SA Rugby writers such as Ryan Vrede and Jon Cardinelli.
Keohane has been a public figure since his days as Springbok Communications Manager under the ill-fated reigns of both Harry Viljoen and Rudolph Streauli, until he resigned in protest over SARFU’s handling of the Geo Cronjé racism debacle involving Quinton Davids. Keohane went on to publish a book about the episode and the state of the Springboks in general, and was widely criticized by Springbok players (most notably Corné Krige) as deliberately attempting to sow division within their ranks and to undermine SA Rugby in general.
In recent times Keohane has been busying himself in the extensive business interests of HSM, as well as media relations of other entities, such as Jake White’s Winning Ways – a business partnership which ended in a heated law suit, kept hushed away out of the public sphere. Even more recently, however, HSM -and Mark Keohane in particular – were awarded the contract to manage the media, marketing and public relations of the South African Sports Confederation and Olympic Committee (SASCOC). The awarding of this contract was never put up for tender, as is standard government procedure, but was rather awarded directly to HSM (although Keohane states that normal application took place, the fact remains it should have gone to tender).
And this is where the Keo connection begins to reveal itself.
During his time at SA Rugby, Mark Keohane worked alongside the likes of Rian Oberholzer (President of SARFU), Songezo Nayo (Managing Director), Gary Grant (Marketing Director) and the current president of SASCOC – Gideon Sam (Springbok Team Manager).
All four names mentioned above are currently directors of sports marketing company Accelerate Sports, with Gideon Sam being appointed as Chairman. Gideon Sam also serves on the Lotto Distribution Board, but excused himself when dealing with the funding grant to SA Cycling, a grant from which Accelerate Sport received commission to the tune of R 26 million – a blatant conflict of interest.
Accelerate Sport, through their subsidiary Access Facilities and Leisure Management (AFLM), were also awarded the contract as operations manager of the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium. It is reported that this contract brings in a whopping R 600 000 a month to the coffers of Accelerate. It is the duty of AFLM to source events to be staged at the stadium to generate revenue and keep the stadium sustainable.
And here the connection between rugby and Accelerate begins to become clear.
The contract between AFLM and the Nelson Mandela Bay Metro states that, above the R 600 000 a month, AFLM are to be awarded performance bonuses based on the revenue they generate, providing this amount exceeds R 12,5 million a year. The structure of this bonus is as follows:
The Operator will be paid 10% of any amount above R12.5 million but less than R15 million, and then:
• 12.5% of any amount in excess of R15 million but less than R20 million;
• 15% of any amount in excess of R20 million but less than R25 million; and
• 20% of any amount in excess of R25 million.
It is thus blatantly clear that it is in the best interests of Accelerate to find events which will draw spectators, such as concerts etc.
But what better way to ensure constant revenue, week after week, than playing host to a top tier sports team. If only the Eastern Cape had one.
But wait, Accelerate have strong ties to SARU, they do after all boast an ex-president in their ranks. Would it at this point seem ludicrous to suggest that Oberholzer, Sam, Grant and Nayo used their previous connections to SARU to, excuse the pun, accelerate the Kings’ inclusion in Super Rugby so as to ensure that their business interest was being looked after, leading to SARU’s shock announcement at the Heyneke Meyer press conference about the Kings’ guaranteed inclusion in Super Rugby for 2013? Surely not.
So where does Mark Keohane fit into all this?
Keohane has recently stepped up his anti – Lions rhetoric in his articles, and while not directly naming the Kings in his most recent one, it is clear where his views emanate from. The vested interest he has in servicing his ex-colleagues at SARU (SASCOC contracts etc.) has clearly skewed the views of an already overly opinionated man.
But wait, there’s more.
After the establishment of the Kings, the son of Cheeky Watson – president of the Eastern Province Rugby Union (under which the Kings operate) – Luke, was brought back from Bath to play for the Kings. In May 2011 HSM (with Mark Keohane again at the forefront) announced that it had decided to enter into the field of player management, a first for the publishing company. Furthermore it was announced that their first client would be none other than Luke Watson. Queue the Mark Keohane propaganda machine.
The cover of the very next SA Rugby magazine was adorned by – yes, you guessed it – Luke Watson, with the rather flattering caption “Return of the King”. This was to be only the start of the Keohane marketing hype surrounding Watson and the Kings.
At the same press conference where SARU dropped the Kings bombshell on an unsuspecting audience, Ryan Vrede, a HSM journalist, asked Heyneke Meyer if Luke Watson – a player languishing in the second tier of SA Rugby and who hasn’t been in Bok contention since mid-2008 – was a contender for the position of Springbok captain. These blatant attempts by Keohane to force the name of Luke Watson into mainstream media while he has done nothing to get it there serves to illustrate the hidden agenda and inherent corrupt nature of a man who has lived off the rise and fall of others for far too long.
Not only has the media machine being rolling for Luke Watson, but others being managed under yet another Accelerate Sport company – In-Site Athlete Management – have been enjoying a rise in publicity in SA Rugby magazine as well. Willem Alberts received some ego stroking in May 2011, as did another In-Site managed player -Joe van Niekerk – in March 2012, with the article stating that he is playing the best rugby of his career at Toulon. Buttering him up for a big money move back to SA perhaps?
It is clear that Keo’s connection into Accelerate stretches deep, with an “I’ll scratch your back you scratch mine” policy which benefits both sides. Gideon Sam made sure he looked after Mark with the awarding of the SASCOC account, Mark in turn ensures that the business interests of Accelerate Sport and its stakeholders remains in the mainstream media, and they all walk away happy.
The reason why Keo has gone on a Lions bashing campaign of late should come as no surprise when taking the above into account. Mark Keohane is no longer a journalist; he hasn’t been for quite a while. He is a businessman with a platform to promote his interests and those of others close to him, a platform which he uses selflessly and without shame.
He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is the worm in the apple, and the rot starts with him.
13 Oct 2012, 06:30 am
@mxhosa-253: Well , well we have a new statitician in our midst. mxhosa. Please show any RUGBY competitions that the Eastern Cape have won in the last 100 years.
13 Oct 2012, 09:14 am
@Puma-36: Do you really read properly, Taute is only signing for the S15 comp and is available two weeks before the promotion relegation match, his agent has not confirmed with the Stormers as yet as the LIONS want to ensure that all the players going on loan contracts are getting game time.
It seems you get all flustered just thinking of having some decent players for a change.
Hell please read the articles and try to understand the content, while you are about it try some other rugby websites as well. Most of the guys commenting here are stuck here, I promise you do not need any money or a passport to brouwse around.
13 Oct 2012, 09:17 am
@wnbb-22: No you are so wrong he has not signed yet and he only wants to play at full back.
13 Oct 2012, 09:19 am
@umkhonto-285:
What do titles won in the last 100 years have to do with SR? The Lions won the CC last year, yet they’ve only won 6 games out of 32 in the last two seasons of SR, with essentially the same squad….
Bottom line is that they are a kak SR franchise and they have been since SA was allowed to field five teams in the competition. They’ve done this whilst fielding least number of black players of any franchise. Have you seen their starting line-ups for the last two weeks?
By the way, if the King/Spears had been awarded SR status, as they should’ve been in 2005, they might have been in better placed to negotiate with the following players:
Keegan Daniel, Ryan Kankowski, Steven Sykes, Nikolai Blignaut, Jacques Potgieter, Luvuyiso Lusaseni, Siyabulela Mdaka, Lubabalo Mthembu, Sisa Mafu, Dewald Potgieter, Bandise Maku, Lubabalo Gwavu, Siya Kolisi, Davon Raubenheimer….. Zane Kirchner, Bjorn Basson, Lwazi Mvovo, Luzuko Vulindlu, Sbusiso Sithole, Luvuyo Mhlobiso, Yondela Stampu, Simpiwe Mtimkulu, Tim Whitehead, JJ Engelbrecht, Paul Jordaan…. Some of the black names yo won’t recognise, but some were baby boks and schoolboy stars who went to different provinces, starred in their age group teams but, for one reason or another, were never quite afforded the same opportunities as some of their peers.
Consider this… between 2005 and 2007 the Cheetahs won 2 titles and shared 1. In the same period 2006 to 2008, they P 39, W 10, D 1, L 28, SR games. In fact, despite being a very good CC side over the last ten years, they’ve never won more than 5 games in a season of SR.
And to answer your question…. Border shared two CC’s with WP in 1932 and 1934
13 Oct 2012, 11:32 am
@mxhosa-288: How can you say what do titles to do with SR, they have everything to do with RUGBY, when you see who is replacing the Lions and what they have achieved in th last 100 years it makes no RUGBY sense.
You run off names of players who where born in EC or where schooled there, it means sweet fanny adams as long as EC is a sht hole nobody will want to die there.
Shared CC makes for fantastic trophy cabinet !!!
13 Oct 2012, 13:16 pm
LOL! I see reading is not one of your strong points.
I guess, Brayn Habana, Jacque Fourie, Heinke vd Merwe, Brian Mujati, Joe van Nierkerk, Schalk Brits, Willem Alberts, Jean Deysel, Louis Ludick didn’t wanna die in the shithole that is Joburg? Is that why they left? Or is it that they didn’t wanna be associated with a kak franchise? Most recently, Josh Strauss, Paul Willemse, Michael Rhodes, Pat Cilliers, possibly Jaco Taute, Lionel Mapoe, Elton Jantjies didn’t like life in Joburg? Hence they have left or might leave… Nee boet, it’s simple, no SR equals player exodus….
The Lions’ achievements over the last 100 years have got nothing to do with next season’s SR. And please don’t make me repeat what I’ve already said.
13 Oct 2012, 14:26 pm
It seem historys repeating itself you give me names of players born or schooled, who never even played cc for Eastern Cape and you then give names of players that have been blooded at the Lions, I have no problem with players moving to other provinces it is called improvement of his or her life.
It is the Kings supporters who name every lameass that has been born in a eastern cape, you are not seriously expecting these people to stay because you have SR
.
Complete Pipe dream, this will be a flash in the pan.
Next year the Sharks and bulls will buy all your good players and they will leave.
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