Bok duo to miss WP’s semi
15 Oct 2012
Springboks Andries Bekker and Tiaan Liebenberg have been ruled out of WP’s play-off match because of injuries.
Liebenberg sustained a back injury in the game against the Cheetahs, while Bekker picked up a debilitating toe injury. Both players will visit specialists to determine the extent of these ailments later in the week.
Neither player will be considered for this Saturday’s semi-final against the Golden Lions, and there is a chance that they will both miss a possible final.
De Kock Steenkamp will be promoted to the starting line-up for this do-or-die match and tasked with managing the lineout in the absence of Bekker.
Scarra Ntubeni will start in place of Liebenberg. Coach Allister Coetzee said that it was an easy decision to make given Ntubeni’s progress over the course of the season.
Deon Fourie will remain at openside flank even though he is considered the Cape side’s second-choice hooker in the Super Rugby competition. Coetzee feels that Fourie is adding more value as a flank at this stage.
Meanwhile, former Bok scrumhalf Bolla Conradie is currently training with the WP squad. Coetzee explained that Louis Schrueder and Nic Groom are still available for selection and that Conradie has been brought in just to provide cover.
‘Our U21 team is also in the semi-finals, so I don’t won’t to disrupt them at this stage of the season,’ he said. ‘If one of Louis or Nic goes down injured, I can bring in Bolla. He also has a lot of experience.’
By Jon Cardinelli
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15 Oct 2012, 17:04 pm
@LoanShark-50:
Old joke, just like your last one about the Bulls.
15 Oct 2012, 17:04 pm
@LoanShark-50:
fark i laughed so hard at that one.
and oldie but a goodie haha.
15 Oct 2012, 17:25 pm
@rangerman-52:
We are not amused.
15 Oct 2012, 18:19 pm
@rangerman-52: Only a mentally challenged person still laugh so hard at an old joke,but then again,they always do especially if they wear cheap black and white Mr Price jerseys.
15 Oct 2012, 18:29 pm
@David-53: we are
@wnbb-54: haha, i needed a good laugh man.
15 Oct 2012, 18:32 pm
@wnbb-54:
What’s the difference between a jet engine and the stormers?
A jet engine eventually stops whining…
15 Oct 2012, 18:33 pm
Bekker must now retire. He is not “build” for rugby.
The Stormers must not even waste their time on him anymore- next year they must start with Etsebeth and Elstadt as locks alternating with Ruan Botha and Armandt/Steenkamp/Lobberts.
The current WP team should still beat the Lions . I doubt however if they will beat the Sharks at Durban but they might beat the Bulls at Newlands so lets hope the Bulls can beat the Sharks. It is quite likely- the sharks have won quite a number of matches in a row (including close one’s) and are due for a loss as their luck cannot hold for ever.
15 Oct 2012, 18:34 pm
@LoanShark-56: What do you expect me to do now???
15 Oct 2012, 18:37 pm
@Robzim-57: Relax bud.He only hurt his toe ….and i guess we all need toes to play rugby.
15 Oct 2012, 18:40 pm
@wnbb-58:
Really feel for your blokes(not the way you feel each other though). As loyal supporters you really deserve better from your team!
15 Oct 2012, 18:45 pm
@wnbb-59:
His “super long” toes will probably take 3x as long as those of a normal person to heal
15 Oct 2012, 18:47 pm
@rangerman-55:
Talking about laughhs, the funniest thing I read the last few days was when Dave Zambriskie, ex teammate of Lance Armstrong, revealed how he would adapt the words to Jimi Hendrix’s Purple Haze when they were travelling on bus:
” EPO all in my veins
lately things just dont seem the same
Actin’ funny,but I don’t know why
Scuse me while I pass this guy”
I think “pass this guy” referred how authorities turned a blind eye.
15 Oct 2012, 18:50 pm
@LoanShark-60: Don’t worry about us,mate.Teams with great history,pedigree and class will always rise to the top…eventually:MANU,as an example,waited 23 years between titles.
15 Oct 2012, 18:52 pm
@wnbb-63:
No worries, we as Sharkies will never kick a man when he is down, Will leave it up to the bully boys…….
15 Oct 2012, 18:55 pm
@LoanShark-64: thanks mate.Natal was always my favourite Sport Pienaar team for the last decade or so when you guys were in the rugby wilderness.
15 Oct 2012, 18:59 pm
@Robzim-62: LOL EPO or not, those Posties were something to watch in their day……
15 Oct 2012, 19:00 pm
@wnbb-65:
Ja, the supporters of the jonny come latelies will wash their cars in the sunshine on the bluff when the 2 traditional real superpowers of sa rugby contest the final in 2 weeks time.
15 Oct 2012, 19:02 pm
@stormersboy-66:
Now you are talking. It was like poetry in motion.
15 Oct 2012, 19:02 pm
@Robzim-67: Maybe Rob,but what i know,is that, that i would not like to mess with an angry,wounded bull.Rather them than us for now.
15 Oct 2012, 19:04 pm
@Robzim-67: Don’t mention the Bluff!Sharkslover will explode again.
15 Oct 2012, 19:07 pm
@wnbb-70:
Now did we mention the Bluff………………
So where are all the Varkies????
15 Oct 2012, 19:07 pm
@stormersboy-66:
They say that most of Lance’s key sponsors like Nike still back him.
In doing so they gave a new meaning to their advertising slogan “Just do it”.
15 Oct 2012, 19:10 pm
@phil72-71:
Don’t know about the rest,but old Sharkslover already had his daily blow-out.
15 Oct 2012, 19:13 pm
@Robzim-72:
Was Big Hit’s uncomfortable question on your celebration of drug -influenced glory too hot to warrant an honest response?
15 Oct 2012, 19:15 pm
Poor Sharks?
Meeting the Bulls in the Semis and hopefully progress to meet the Stormers in the final…. Must feel like you won the Lotto? Sounds very familiar to the super rugby journey?
15 Oct 2012, 19:25 pm
@Neilanate-74:
Care to remind me what he asked?
15 Oct 2012, 19:25 pm
@phil72-75: I believe the sharkievarkies might be in for a massive surprise on Saturday.I might be tempted to put a few bob on the Bulls. If that happens,Sharkslover might,totally,go off the boil.
15 Oct 2012, 19:38 pm
@Robzim-76:
It is close to the end of that thread. Find it and read his excellent sentiments.
Essentially he castigated you for glorifying drug-aided cheating.
There is NO good that emanates from recreational-type drugs and/or cheating in sports. It deserves NO positive outcome under any circumstance.
As an example look now at schoolboy druggie Goosen. In a few games(too few) he has suffered a shoulder joint injury, a heel(ankle joint) injury but yet played 2 consecutive weeks and lastly a knee joint injury.
At least 2 of those joints are now anatomically compromised and thus more susceptible to injury and infection. His goose is cooked imo.
15 Oct 2012, 20:17 pm
@Robzim-72:
15 Oct 2012, 20:35 pm
@Neilanate-78:
My view on Lance Armstrong is that he is the greatest Tour de France rider ever and that becoming a champion of his magnitude takes much more than mere illicit substances – he also had immense technical skills, savy, an insane focus, a genetic gift, guts and other elusive qualities that great champions posess.
You must remember he participated in an era saturated by high powered dopers – for example only one of the the 5 riders who came second during the tours he won (Ulrich x3) were never convicted or admitted or made a financial agreement to have charges of doping dismissed. Even the great Eddie Merckx tested positive way back in those years- if Armstrong could get away with it through all the years how do we know that Indurain or Greg Le Mond or anyone else for that matter was always “clean”?
All this is not mitigation or does not mean that what Armstrong did was right or acceptable or that I glorify drug aided cheating (as you claimed). It’s merely pointing out that he was much more then a druggie and will always be remembered as one of cycling’s most complex but astounding legends.
15 Oct 2012, 20:36 pm
@LoanShark-50:
A Rottweiler jumped over the fence and a boy defended his sister by hitting it with a cricket bat
The Pretoria News sent a reporter to interview him and after the interview he said the headline would read
“Brave young Bulls fan saves sister from savage beast”
The boy said “I don’t support the Bulls”
So the reporter said
“Young Lions fan saves sister from angry dog”
Whereupon the boy said “I’m a Sharks supporter”
So the headline read
“Donnerse Rooinek juvenile delinquent kills beloved family pet”
15 Oct 2012, 20:40 pm
@victoriabok-81:
15 Oct 2012, 20:45 pm
@Robzim-80:
sorry boet, the guy’s a scumbag in my opinion, finish en klaar.
there’s only ever two sides of a line you can walk for me, the right side or the wrong side… and he walked the wrong side.
its the same way i view the kiwis. will never respect them for the way in which they (armstrong types or nz rugby) went about achieving… never…
15 Oct 2012, 21:15 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-83:
Everything is not always either black or white.
Armstrong has been a role model to inspire cancer conquerors over the years- donations to his Livestrong foundation have totaled almost $US 500 million and the money has funded life-changing programs to help people with cancer since 2007.
It does not make cheating right but it is also not bad for a “scumbag” don’t you think?
15 Oct 2012, 21:21 pm
Most things are either black or white. You are a thief or not, you lie or tell the truth, etc. Will give you this much, in the South African culture is everything is grey. But… that is SA?
15 Oct 2012, 21:42 pm
@Robzim-84:
sjoe, i dunno boet.. i hear you.. but i just dunno…
i guess its harder for some men and easier for others to make these kind of calls.
for me its in many ways a question of the underlying predication, but hey, thats just me.
maybe if he had gone about it in a way in which he was to admit his deceit while endeavouring to save the charities he is involved with as much as possible?
15 Oct 2012, 21:56 pm
@80
If you cannot accept that NO GOOD emanates from drug -influenced sports then “you’re better off dead if you haven’t yet died.”
I am not even vaguely interested in your “my view” rubbish as ostriches (sorry I mean ‘arsestretchers’) with heads in the sand have none and as such your ‘drol in jou hol’ is more meaningful to you than even your “my view” is
.
This “my view” is so preposterous for it presupposes that you know the drug-state(or not) of every cyclist who has ever participated in any “Tour” in France that was ever held.
Mockingly, let me say to be cheating so often and for so long he must have “had immense technical skills, savy, an insane focus, a genetic gift, guts and other elusive qualities that great champions posess.”(sic) to get it just right, yet he now denies himself the opportunity to clear his name in the legal system. The cold sweat of the COWARD, perhaps?
I don’t think you know 1/10th the real story for it is still unfolding in his country.
I trust too you were noble enough to furnish Big Hit with a more worthy and less garbled garbage response.
‘ Nag ou Kleintjie dit is koud en jy nodig slaap as jy sulke k a k skryf.’
15 Oct 2012, 22:16 pm
@Neilanate-87:
AG ET, if you are not interested in my views why don’t you just ignore my posts instead of getting involved each and every time i have something to say here.
Talking about being a coward…… how many nicks do you have these days… ET… Jokers to the left… Neilarsehole…. how many more? if you are such a coward on a blog I dont want to know what you are in real life.
Jou hoogheilige houding beindruk niemand nie man……. vokkof, gaan skrop die vloer van die labratorium voordat die baas jou more weer uitkak…. ou “grote”
16 Oct 2012, 00:16 am
I should be thinking of better things to do by wending my way home than wasting time here but the temptation of exposing drug-users and drug-worshippers is just too great to overlook..
Even as they desperately but vainly and wrongly call for me, as if that is ever a deflection or a point scored, it is just too hilarious and speaks of utter desperation of the ‘boertjie overloaded contingent..
The story here is that the druggie has zero support, no friends even among those who take the funds he raises in ‘their’ cause.
He, prancing Lance, is now virtually paralyzed, cannot move as he is buried under an avalanche of evidence from 11 of his team-mates and even 2 wives(are there more?). Five of the eleven(26 witnesses total) have accepted at least 6 months banning from the national cycling federation/union as they find the saga now to odious to pretend it never happened. Some did not ever take or want to take drugs but were bullied into it for whatever reason/s.
In situations like this the advice is always to follow the money trail and that has paid huge dividends. In excess of $1 million alone has gone to the aptly named Italian, Dr. Ferrari in his attempts to speed up the accumulation of Lance’s now non-existent medals.
The 11 teamsters and others(like crooked doctors) have undeniably established that Lance imbibed over years and all Tours any of a combination of the following banned substances for sportspersons, including cyclists:
Testosterone, HGH, Erhrythropoietin( EPO), Corticosterone and other steroids, a substance called activonex(not sure what it is and not interested even about spelling), plasma infusions, saline infusions(both to mask and give false blood picture), any number of transfusions of his previously stored erythrocytes(RBC- unphysiologic procedure, aka blood-doping).
His wife, Christine(not Crow), joked about the EPO to the investigators saying it was called ‘butter’ in the home as it was stored with the butter in the fridge.
His father was a treated drug-addict and even though he, Lance, promised not to go on drugs he did but only to create a false positive picture to that of his father. he clearly has the addict’s genes then in his make up.
Who here has the exposure in physiology, biochemistry, pathology and pharmacology to even vaguely understand the dreadful effects of drugs still to be visited on him?
Hopefully he has not fathered any children yet for they will surely have the addicts genes too.
His actions are clearly those of a megalomaniac who now will get his infamous 15 mins. of horrid exposure.
Wait ’til the tv magazine programmes like 20/20, Dateline, 60 mins., 40 mins. and then the late night jokesters take a run with it.
16 Oct 2012, 02:31 am
@88
Through all that lugubrious and maudlin sentimentality (nothing more than ‘dronk getjankery’ in your stolen slave language)) are you struggling to intimate that you cannot handle the heat my relatives produce for your not so hidden closet existence as a bigot?
HTFU already!
How slow are you? How difficult is it for you to accept that I have mentioned way back in 2008 already, to none other than G10, that I have 2 cousins, very accomplished sportsmen, who were denied by your Vorsters? Do you expect them to love you neo-racists and not be angry at the experiences?
Have you noticed how more suave my use of language is relative to theirs but they can still wipe the floor with you in that respect. I am the master and non-racial official and they are the sportsmen. But anything they serve to you, you will hardly see,(just ask Chait).
Notice too that I am awake(8.30pm EST) and responding while you and they are not.
How do you jump the chasm between nicks and “coward”, irrespective of its relevance or not and what does that make your Tiberius river born non-S.African friend? A supreme “COWARD” if your ‘point’ is taken to its absurd extrapolated end?
Not too smart and consistent are you now? Not able to think things through to its logical conclusion? Too many of your dad’s boer genes?
16 Oct 2012, 02:34 am
Hou jou getjankery vir hierdie, of die volgende, naweek. Dit sal jou dan toepas.
16 Oct 2012, 08:36 am
Why does all of ET’s family talk funny?
16 Oct 2012, 14:01 pm
@Robzim-80: He took drugs in order to win. You can’t take that out of the equation. Even if many others did too that doesn’t make it alright. Elite sport is about the last few percent that separates the champs from the rest. When that few percent is the result of cheating what is there to to tell us who is the best and most deserving. The tour is now a glorious cycling travelogue and will be until we can be confident the sport is doping free
16 Oct 2012, 14:04 pm
@gunther-92: Home schooled with text books from the fifties.
16 Oct 2012, 14:08 pm
@LoanShark-85: Most things are not black or white. We all tell lies and the truth and have moments of honesty and dishonesty.
16 Oct 2012, 14:19 pm
@ET.-90: Reading your posts always makes me feel so superior. Thanks.
16 Oct 2012, 18:32 pm
@92
Can it be because you are a clan bunny, ‘Honey’?
16 Oct 2012, 18:36 pm
@96
Can it be because you are 5 degrees of ‘white’ or maybe you just have 5 degrees (that’s what you need).
16 Oct 2012, 18:41 pm
@92,94
You aliens too? You hear talking with your eyes?
Sitting at the cricket watching Dhoni makes me too witty.
But I do enjoy Quinton de Kock too and the mangi Phangi.
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