are you saying that before 1970 sa had the power to influence nz’s internal behaviour? sjoe! as forceful, uncompromisng as the sa gov may have been at the time and however much a slick foreign affairs routine we may have had i really dont think we were influential enough to sway nz’ers to adopt any racist attitudes or policies within their own country.

we may have at best (worst) just the worst possible example as a sporting competitor to have sporting contacts with but all this would have done is give the already racist and prejudiced white nz’ers the secret affirmation they may have needed to behave in the ways they clearly were.

a lot has changed in nz since but so too in sa.

The Springboks, South Africa’s national rugby team, first toured New Zealand in 1921. They played one close-fought match against a team of ‘New Zealand Natives’ (M?ori) and a South African journalist reported that the Springboks were ‘frankly disgusted’ at playing against ‘a band of coloured men’.1 On their next tour in 1937, the Springboks refused to play an all-M?ori team, although several M?ori were included in the All Blacks. Te Arawa tribe called for a sporting and cultural boycott of South Africa, and most M?ori supported them. Some protested with banners announcing ‘Cash before Conscience’ – tours were lucrative.

As you can see the Maori did not want to play until NZRU manned up to the racist country that SA was….
Now it seems once again you have blamed NZ?
I understand and have said it was our fault for listening to an ugly nation at the time called South Africa but we did. But you seem content that the non selection of Maoris had nothing to do with you.
Point is Maoris didnt want to play until SA changed…understand

pops goes out of his way to blame sa for their being so few on the spurious grounds that we prevented the nzru from selecting any but that only applied to any nz team touring in sa and its got nothing to do with the fact that non whites were only picked in a few token numbers and instances of exceptional skill by the white powers of nz rugby.

@Brads-75:
that is a lame answer if ever i heard one.
please refer above.

@Hurricane-76:
no, please refer above.

pops made a lame claim for their not being enough non whites in ab teams pre 1970 and i assert this had more to do with white nz’ers attitudes than anything to do with us.

keep believing your fairytale if you so prefer, boet.

True true.

Aus were actually the bloody worst at their peak. They used to hunt aborigines.

Nothing a couple of Knights worth of planning can’t sort out.

What pains me is the fact you go out find one little clipping of what someone said and thats it.
What are you trying to prove here?
Point is and known that Maoris and Pacific Islanders were not allowed in your country….fact. This is what the discussion somehow came about.
Not once have you said anything about what SA did but blamed Kiwis. Really sick of your dumb posts that only ever point to one country as fault.
Soutgh Africa has changed…..maybe you should

There was a general feeling of anti Pat Lam as coach in the Blues community, but not a ground swell of anti Pat Lam because he was Samoan.

Indeed, rugby has become the tale of just how far Pacific people have
come. Supposedly, we see in rugby evidence of how, in Immigration Minister
David Cunliffe’s words, “Pasifika New Zealanders are well-established members
of our community—growing in numbers and going from strength to strength.”

Who said: “The white populace which holds itself in such high esteem, the hypocrites who make the same old polite, meaningless sounds about Maoris but who wouldn’t lower themselves to mix with the Maori on a Maori footing… The circumstances of many Maori are terrifying, but where is the concern for these people? And we spew out the platitudes about race relations, New Zealand’s paradise of racial equality”?

Was it:
A. Tariana Turia
B. Ranginui Walker
C. Hone Harawira
D. Tame Iti
E. Colin Meads

The answer is E. New Zealand rugby’s most iconic figure said that – and much more in the same vein – in Colin Meads: All Black (1974), which sold by the pallet-load and created a template for the ghostwritten sporting autobiographies that have poured forth ever since.

The cause of Meads’s ire was the Labour Government’s decision to “postpone” – in effect cancel – the 1973 Springbok tour of this country. His target was the white middle-class who, as he saw it, were terribly exercised about the suffering of South Africa’s black and coloured communities under apartheid but unaware of or indifferent to the grim everyday reality of many of their own indigenous people.

The paradox of rugby is that although it can’t seem to shake the suspicion that it harbours racist attitudes – witness the abuse directed at beleaguered Blues coach Pat Lam, a Samoan New Zealander – it has achieved a level of harmonious, productive integration that most of our institutions and sectors can only aspire to. The “browning” of rugby over the past 20 years has generated three controversies.

http://www.listener.co.nz/current-affairs/sport/rugby-and-ethnicity/

Thanks Hurri, would be interesting but don’t worry to much if you can’t find anything.

Mr Returning Serve, Master of Generalisation loves to tar us all with the same brush but reality is that a large % of us were either still but a twinkle in our dad’s eye or plain oblivious to what happened at the time. For vark steaks man, we only got TV in SA in 1974 or was it 1976 and then the biggest show was Haas Das se Nuuskas that had little to say about it all…