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		<title>By: Boogeyman</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2263551</link>
		<dc:creator>Boogeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bakkies Botha, Justin Marshall, Fourie Du Preez, Jacque Fourie, Andre Joubert, Os Durandt, Henni Le Roux, Martin Johnstone, Danie Gerber, Dan Carter. No shackle-draggers all LEGENDS

Wtf is the problem...let Bakkies play, stupid coach Meyer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bakkies Botha, Justin Marshall, Fourie Du Preez, Jacque Fourie, Andre Joubert, Os Durandt, Henni Le Roux, Martin Johnstone, Danie Gerber, Dan Carter. No shackle-draggers all LEGENDS</p>
<p>Wtf is the problem&#8230;let Bakkies play, stupid coach Meyer.</p>
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		<title>By: GarethDuncan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2250909</link>
		<dc:creator>GarethDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2249578&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sundaypete-19&lt;/a&gt;: GARETH DUNCAN looks at the Saffas who impressed in the leagues around the world over the weekend.

Key word: Impressed

If you had a good weekend, you&#039;d feature in my piece. Otherwise, every weekend wrap would look the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2249578" rel="nofollow">sundaypete-19</a>: GARETH DUNCAN looks at the Saffas who impressed in the leagues around the world over the weekend.</p>
<p>Key word: Impressed</p>
<p>If you had a good weekend, you&#8217;d feature in my piece. Otherwise, every weekend wrap would look the same.</p>
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		<title>By: sundaypete</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2249578</link>
		<dc:creator>sundaypete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somehow this writer overlooks some of the pools of the heineken cup. What about players like anton van zyl, ethienne reynecke, wicus blaaw and andries van schalkwyk? Get some interest duncan. You probably rush to finish this article on a sunday eve so you can go down to caprice and try and impress some poor girl by telling her you work for keo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow this writer overlooks some of the pools of the heineken cup. What about players like anton van zyl, ethienne reynecke, wicus blaaw and andries van schalkwyk? Get some interest duncan. You probably rush to finish this article on a sunday eve so you can go down to caprice and try and impress some poor girl by telling her you work for keo.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2249151</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248970&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;H-16&lt;/a&gt;: 
yes, but my thinking is float the astronaut or payload as high up as possible in this manner and then use a 2nd stage rocket (or other) propulsion method to go the rest of the way?

surely it will still be cheaper and easier to do for a &#039;minor&#039; space nation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248970" rel="nofollow">H-16</a>:<br />
yes, but my thinking is float the astronaut or payload as high up as possible in this manner and then use a 2nd stage rocket (or other) propulsion method to go the rest of the way?</p>
<p>surely it will still be cheaper and easier to do for a &#8216;minor&#8217; space nation?</p>
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		<title>By: Brads</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2249018</link>
		<dc:creator>Brads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248883&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Taahirah-13&lt;/a&gt;: 
Neither did Jerome Kaino

But as good as he is, he would still not be eligible for AB duty until he completed a season of domestic rugby., not would I want him to be selected. 

These guys need their poor training drilled out of them.

I know Percy was recalled direct, as was Frans. Has there been any decent forwards called into the Bokke directly from playing in Europe or Japan.

As for the selection of Percy and Frans, is this an indicator of the dearth of talent being produced by the SARU system that they need to go offshore to be educated.

And if so, how did they perform?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248883" rel="nofollow">Taahirah-13</a>:<br />
Neither did Jerome Kaino</p>
<p>But as good as he is, he would still not be eligible for AB duty until he completed a season of domestic rugby., not would I want him to be selected. </p>
<p>These guys need their poor training drilled out of them.</p>
<p>I know Percy was recalled direct, as was Frans. Has there been any decent forwards called into the Bokke directly from playing in Europe or Japan.</p>
<p>As for the selection of Percy and Frans, is this an indicator of the dearth of talent being produced by the SARU system that they need to go offshore to be educated.</p>
<p>And if so, how did they perform?</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2248970</link>
		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248776&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-2&lt;/a&gt;: it&#039;s &quot;in space&quot;, but not in orbit. At that height you still require a lot of power to escape the earth&#039;s gravity. I suppose you could try and float satellites on balloons, but ultimately all balloons leak since both Hydrogen and Helium are small (di)atoms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248776" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-2</a>: it&#8217;s &#8220;in space&#8221;, but not in orbit. At that height you still require a lot of power to escape the earth&#8217;s gravity. I suppose you could try and float satellites on balloons, but ultimately all balloons leak since both Hydrogen and Helium are small (di)atoms.</p>
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		<title>By: gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248921&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;groen-14&lt;/a&gt;: 

yes it must be the lazy poor students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248921" rel="nofollow">groen-14</a>: </p>
<p>yes it must be the lazy poor students.</p>
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		<title>By: groen</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2248921</link>
		<dc:creator>groen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248856&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gunther-10&lt;/a&gt;: True in a sense , but also the system doesn&#039;t favor the student and the amount of paperwork compared to teaching is too much. I&#039;m a teacher and some of us work hard, but the background of the students and economical setbacks we have still play a role. Some student though are just lazy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248856" rel="nofollow">gunther-10</a>: True in a sense , but also the system doesn&#8217;t favor the student and the amount of paperwork compared to teaching is too much. I&#8217;m a teacher and some of us work hard, but the background of the students and economical setbacks we have still play a role. Some student though are just lazy</p>
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		<title>By: Taahirah</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2248883</link>
		<dc:creator>Taahirah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248821&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads-8&lt;/a&gt;: Bakkies never retired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248821" rel="nofollow">Brads-8</a>: Bakkies never retired.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2248867</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate the use of the gridiron term &quot;rushed&quot;. The english connotation is rather less intentional. :evil:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the use of the gridiron term &#8220;rushed&#8221;. The english connotation is rather less intentional. <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brads</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2248858</link>
		<dc:creator>Brads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248837&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Horings-9&lt;/a&gt;: 
2 years ago the lay of the land was NZ had the best back line players but SA owned the engine room.

2 years on, NZ has a whole new set of backs they can call on that would comfortably dovetail into the team pattern, an engine room that is comfortable against all opposition, while SA are desperate for forwards in key positions. 

What does that suggest?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248837" rel="nofollow">Horings-9</a>:<br />
2 years ago the lay of the land was NZ had the best back line players but SA owned the engine room.</p>
<p>2 years on, NZ has a whole new set of backs they can call on that would comfortably dovetail into the team pattern, an engine room that is comfortable against all opposition, while SA are desperate for forwards in key positions. </p>
<p>What does that suggest?</p>
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		<title>By: gunther</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2248856</link>
		<dc:creator>gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248778&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slartibartfast-3&lt;/a&gt;: 

the goevernment spends more money on education in SA than any other government in Africa yet we are amongst the worst educated nations on the continent.

Someone needs to point the finger at the muppets holding the chalk.

we should start training some decent teachers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248778" rel="nofollow">Slartibartfast-3</a>: </p>
<p>the goevernment spends more money on education in SA than any other government in Africa yet we are amongst the worst educated nations on the continent.</p>
<p>Someone needs to point the finger at the muppets holding the chalk.</p>
<p>we should start training some decent teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: Horings</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/15/jaque-heats-up-with-tryline-fever/#comment-2248837</link>
		<dc:creator>Horings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248821&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads-8&lt;/a&gt;: How old was Simon Shaw on the 2009 British and Irish Lions tour? and how many injuries do we get in a season? Etzebeth is good enough, but if he gets injured then we do not have a good enough nr 4 lock in SA to play test rugby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248821" rel="nofollow">Brads-8</a>: How old was Simon Shaw on the 2009 British and Irish Lions tour? and how many injuries do we get in a season? Etzebeth is good enough, but if he gets injured then we do not have a good enough nr 4 lock in SA to play test rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: Brads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248799&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-7&lt;/a&gt;: 
There is no comparison between Woodcock and Botha.

Woodcock never &quot;retired&quot; as an All Black and was only 30 last year so he was in his prime.

Considering the rest of the planet (including SA) has this ridiculous premium above all else on winning the RWC, which I don&#039;t share, why would you recall a retired player who has no chance of lasting another 3 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248799" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-7</a>:<br />
There is no comparison between Woodcock and Botha.</p>
<p>Woodcock never &#8220;retired&#8221; as an All Black and was only 30 last year so he was in his prime.</p>
<p>Considering the rest of the planet (including SA) has this ridiculous premium above all else on winning the RWC, which I don&#8217;t share, why would you recall a retired player who has no chance of lasting another 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248787&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads-4&lt;/a&gt;: 
you see apples i see peaches. 
ab&#039;s took a trick out of the skpringbok tactical book by recalling woodcock as loosehead for their wc campaign. 

smart tems stand to gain by having one or two old dogs who&#039;ve been there and done it all before in the squad ranks. provided the player commands his place and puts in the performances, youngsters stand to gain more even if their time playing is delayed just a little bit in my opinion.

besides, bakkies is 32 whereas thorn is 37, big difference. also, he would not be used to go all the way through to the next wc but just to transition the younger locks better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248787" rel="nofollow">Brads-4</a>:<br />
you see apples i see peaches.<br />
ab&#8217;s took a trick out of the skpringbok tactical book by recalling woodcock as loosehead for their wc campaign. </p>
<p>smart tems stand to gain by having one or two old dogs who&#8217;ve been there and done it all before in the squad ranks. provided the player commands his place and puts in the performances, youngsters stand to gain more even if their time playing is delayed just a little bit in my opinion.</p>
<p>besides, bakkies is 32 whereas thorn is 37, big difference. also, he would not be used to go all the way through to the next wc but just to transition the younger locks better.</p>
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		<title>By: phil72</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248778&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slartibartfast-3&lt;/a&gt;: 

Or maybe.. renovate a few politicians houses?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248778" rel="nofollow">Slartibartfast-3</a>: </p>
<p>Or maybe.. renovate a few politicians houses?</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248778&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slartibartfast-3&lt;/a&gt;: 
true slart, if i had to choose i would choose schools.
it shouldn&#039;t have to be this way if iguvament just did its job within reason, no more no less. oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248778" rel="nofollow">Slartibartfast-3</a>:<br />
true slart, if i had to choose i would choose schools.<br />
it shouldn&#8217;t have to be this way if iguvament just did its job within reason, no more no less. oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248775&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-1&lt;/a&gt;: 
I would love it if Meyer recalled Botha 

If he did he would have to justify his decision, irrespective of Test standard form.  he would be compelled to have him on the bench as a bare minimum. 

Joy oh joy if he had him as a run on. Much like SA would rejoice if Shag recalled Thorn. 

It would amount to filling the ranks with a hopeful nostalgia trip rather than getting on with the main job of continued improvement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248775" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-1</a>:<br />
I would love it if Meyer recalled Botha </p>
<p>If he did he would have to justify his decision, irrespective of Test standard form.  he would be compelled to have him on the bench as a bare minimum. </p>
<p>Joy oh joy if he had him as a run on. Much like SA would rejoice if Shag recalled Thorn. </p>
<p>It would amount to filling the ranks with a hopeful nostalgia trip rather than getting on with the main job of continued improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Slartibartfast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slartibartfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2248776&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-2&lt;/a&gt;: 

The balloon alone cost R1.75m Bakkies, rather build a school or three.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2248776" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-2</a>: </p>
<p>The balloon alone cost R1.75m Bakkies, rather build a school or three.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[flip, this guys jump looks amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHtvDA0W34I

why dont we start sending people into space this way?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flip, this guys jump looks amazing:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHtvDA0W34I" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHtvDA0W34I</a></p>
<p>why dont we start sending people into space this way?</p>
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