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Was gonna say quite agile for an old f uk

Fair enough dude……..yes it gets a bit MMA in here at times but I never take any of it seriously, IMO its all huff, pi ss taking and wind ups…………… a stress reliever as it were

I generally like South African fans, and admire much about South African rugby, although it all gets a bit feral in here on occasion!!

You are English and you don’t support your side? Hate their supporters?

Jeez dude you are a sorry case, you would never hear a genuine Saffa or Keewee say that, Cape Crusaders excluded………..and you appear to be a rugby lover/kenner??

Whats the story?

“I don’t see how either lock has shown themselves better locks than Lawes…”Hilarious. Retallick and Etzabeth are magnificent young players with skills and work-rates way beyond anything Lawes is capable of. Lawes is a Test Match nobody. Another athletic, hard nosed, modern lock, with a list of solid achievements: World Cup, Bledisloe Cup, Rugby Championship, is Sam Whitelock. He’s also younger than Lawes–and he doesn’t go round taking cheap shots at prone players or bashing halfbacks who have their backs turned

The All Blacks have adopted this style since 2010, reducing the number of superstar ball runners in the backline and instead preferring strong defenders and high ball gatherers like Jane and Kahui. Those two guys can of course attack, but it is not the harem skarum stuff that Roks and Sivi preferred.

The Bok’s problem is the opposite of the AB’s in 2009. You have generally been over balanced with safety first players, not enough guys who can defend but who are also good attackers.

Attacking flair is something that a 20yo player either has or doesn’t have. You aren’t going to teach it to them over the next 10 years of a professional rugby career – it’s simply impossible.

On the other hand, defensive ability can be tought over a 10 year career, and indeed most players with great attacking flair become more defensively orientated over time – e.g. Brian O’Driscoll was a weak defender at the start of his career, he is now one of the best.

Therefore I think the Boks MUST invest in players like Lambie, Jordaan and Janjties now, so that in 3 years time they have turned into more complete rugby players. These guys have world class attacking flair which can’t be taught to a crash bash plodder like Taute.

This is a really different POV to many of the Saffa posters on this site. They argue that the existing players can be coached to attack better, e.g. like the AB’s. However, I don’t think this is the case with any of the current line up – what you see is what you get re their attacking skills.

Whereas I have no doubt that players like Lambie, Goosen, Jordaan and Janjties can be taught to be better tacklers, injuries permitting of course.

Just MHO.