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		<title>By: wpforever</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253608</link>
		<dc:creator>wpforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan Solomons should be with the Boks management...........not the Kings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Solomons should be with the Boks management&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..not the Kings</p>
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		<title>By: JAWESOME</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253599</link>
		<dc:creator>JAWESOME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My prediction for today.... There will be a few sad supporters.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prediction for today&#8230;. There will be a few sad supporters&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253570</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nonsense article. There was one black face in the entire team last night for the Kingspears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonsense article. There was one black face in the entire team last night for the Kingspears.</p>
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		<title>By: goyougoodthing2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253565</link>
		<dc:creator>goyougoodthing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2253513&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;husky-323&lt;/a&gt;: There are elements in every Union with agendas as you mention. In only a few are they not running things.

Their time is coming though, SA rugby is going to get worse before it gets better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2253513" rel="nofollow">husky-323</a>: There are elements in every Union with agendas as you mention. In only a few are they not running things.</p>
<p>Their time is coming though, SA rugby is going to get worse before it gets better.</p>
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		<title>By: husky</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253513</link>
		<dc:creator>husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 07:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Predawn; you make some good points but the Kings debacle is not only to the Lions detriment; it&#039;s to the detriment of SA rugby. The Lions weren&#039;t poster children for SA rugby and SARU should have applied some guidance. Imported players, over paid players and coaches, non-agents  (keow) etc. SARU does not have SA rugby&#039;s interests at heart. They are self-interested, along with a lot of people in SA rugby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Predawn; you make some good points but the Kings debacle is not only to the Lions detriment; it&#8217;s to the detriment of SA rugby. The Lions weren&#8217;t poster children for SA rugby and SARU should have applied some guidance. Imported players, over paid players and coaches, non-agents  (keow) etc. SARU does not have SA rugby&#8217;s interests at heart. They are self-interested, along with a lot of people in SA rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: Predawn</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253137</link>
		<dc:creator>Predawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Luke Watson’s manager/agent, Keohane has consistently pushed the Kings agenda in the media at the expense of the Lions and it is some of his very biased, unobjective, unethical blogs that have helped create this storm between the Kings and Lions. The Kings inclusion in Super Rugby would not only be of financial benefit to Keohane, but also to the company he recently “resigned” from. HSM have been courting the Kings for the publishing rights to their monthly magazine and game day programmes.  
  
But Mr Roux I’m glad to hear that there was “no government intervention” in the Kings decision (wink wink). It was in fact your only smart answer as you know the IRB doesn’t take kindly to government intervention.

Finally to say, “the Unions (SARU) are now responsible for identifying SARU’s entrants in Vodacom Super Rugby. Participation in 2014 and 2015 is their call, as it was for 2013” is another cheap shot at the Lions to allow SARU to move the goalposts again, should the Kings finish in the relegation playoff spot.   

My suggestion is that SARU should call time out and take a good look at themselves in the mirror!

Email Graeme at: graeme@butterbean.co.za]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Luke Watson’s manager/agent, Keohane has consistently pushed the Kings agenda in the media at the expense of the Lions and it is some of his very biased, unobjective, unethical blogs that have helped create this storm between the Kings and Lions. The Kings inclusion in Super Rugby would not only be of financial benefit to Keohane, but also to the company he recently “resigned” from. HSM have been courting the Kings for the publishing rights to their monthly magazine and game day programmes.  </p>
<p>But Mr Roux I’m glad to hear that there was “no government intervention” in the Kings decision (wink wink). It was in fact your only smart answer as you know the IRB doesn’t take kindly to government intervention.</p>
<p>Finally to say, “the Unions (SARU) are now responsible for identifying SARU’s entrants in Vodacom Super Rugby. Participation in 2014 and 2015 is their call, as it was for 2013” is another cheap shot at the Lions to allow SARU to move the goalposts again, should the Kings finish in the relegation playoff spot.   </p>
<p>My suggestion is that SARU should call time out and take a good look at themselves in the mirror!</p>
<p>Email Graeme at: <a href="mailto:graeme@butterbean.co.za">graeme@butterbean.co.za</a></p>
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		<title>By: The very reverend J. Jones</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253122</link>
		<dc:creator>The very reverend J. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the words of Fatboy Slim (or some bloke he sampled):

Drop the hate
Forgive each other]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of Fatboy Slim (or some bloke he sampled):</p>
<p>Drop the hate<br />
Forgive each other</p>
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		<title>By: Transformation</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253028</link>
		<dc:creator>Transformation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252754&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joe Maher-312&lt;/a&gt;: inane sarcasm won&#039;t change anything...i recall the Rebels and the Force didn&#039;t even have structures before being allowed to play Super rugby...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252754" rel="nofollow">Joe Maher-312</a>: inane sarcasm won&#8217;t change anything&#8230;i recall the Rebels and the Force didn&#8217;t even have structures before being allowed to play Super rugby&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253009</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kayrap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kayrap</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2253008</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Kinks are crap and will never be chocolate mousse, no matter how it is served up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kinks are <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> and will never be chocolate mousse, no matter how it is served up.</p>
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		<title>By: wnbb</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252885</link>
		<dc:creator>wnbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252495&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Puma-299&lt;/a&gt;: No Puma,the Bulls HAVE to beat the Sharks first before we can think of a Newlands final.We play second on Saturday ....and that dream might come crashing down on us....or not.   :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252495" rel="nofollow">Puma-299</a>: No Puma,the Bulls HAVE to beat the Sharks first before we can think of a Newlands final.We play second on Saturday &#8230;.and that dream might come crashing down on us&#8230;.or not.   <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blue Label</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252856</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Label</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252854&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blue Label-315&lt;/a&gt;: Sorry... Finger slipped there, and please no &quot;Thats what she said&quot; jokes.

Hehehe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252854" rel="nofollow">Blue Label-315</a>: Sorry&#8230; Finger slipped there, and please no &#8220;Thats what she said&#8221; jokes.</p>
<p>Hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Label</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252854</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Label</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252755&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DEE DAH-313&lt;/a&gt;: You did NOT@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252756&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BrumbiesBoy-314&lt;/a&gt;:  mention Graham Joffe on this site????? 

You will get banned for life!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252755" rel="nofollow">DEE DAH-313</a>: You did NOT@<a href="#comment-2252756" rel="nofollow">BrumbiesBoy-314</a>:  mention Graham Joffe on this site????? </p>
<p>You will get banned for life!</p>
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		<title>By: BrumbiesBoy</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252756</link>
		<dc:creator>BrumbiesBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252658&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sharks_lover-306&lt;/a&gt;: No problem, as long as you realise that ALL TEAMS get good and bad decisions made against them. Nothing you can do about that, you have to take the good with the bad.

Having said that, if I was a betting man I&#039;d be prepared to put money down that in major games reffed by the (in)famous Andre Watson, Transvaal/Lions lost a great deal more times than they won...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252658" rel="nofollow">sharks_lover-306</a>: No problem, as long as you realise that ALL TEAMS get good and bad decisions made against them. Nothing you can do about that, you have to take the good with the bad.</p>
<p>Having said that, if I was a betting man I&#8217;d be prepared to put money down that in major games reffed by the (in)famous Andre Watson, Transvaal/Lions lost a great deal more times than they won&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DEE DAH</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252755</link>
		<dc:creator>DEE DAH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a load of toss this article is. The Kings will, despite all the unprecedented assistance fail dismally at the expense of rugby. We already know that the blood sucking leeches have attached themselves to the kings band wagon. The kings will go the way of SAA and Eskom and the taxpaying rugby fan will be footing the bill. Graeme Joffe obviously got it right and now the writers are being asked to justify the Kings inclusion.
Classic case of pigs in the trough. This site is becoming a joke filled with hidden agendas and quasi experts who have nothing better to do than try and convince each other that they know far more than they actually do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of toss this article is. The Kings will, despite all the unprecedented assistance fail dismally at the expense of rugby. We already know that the blood sucking leeches have attached themselves to the kings band wagon. The kings will go the way of SAA and Eskom and the taxpaying rugby fan will be footing the bill. Graeme Joffe obviously got it right and now the writers are being asked to justify the Kings inclusion.<br />
Classic case of pigs in the trough. This site is becoming a joke filled with hidden agendas and quasi experts who have nothing better to do than try and convince each other that they know far more than they actually do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Maher</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252754</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Maher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 03:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252281&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Transformation-169&lt;/a&gt;: 

Wow, now that&#039;s some fokken impressive CV, Transie.  Fully deserving of a tilt at the Crusaders and co.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252281" rel="nofollow">Transformation-169</a>: </p>
<p>Wow, now that&#8217;s some <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym> impressive CV, Transie.  Fully deserving of a tilt at the Crusaders and co.</p>
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		<title>By: Treehugger</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252704</link>
		<dc:creator>Treehugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Bulls supporters, Spies is staying.......pleeeeeeeeeeez Meyer do not include him in the Bok team ever again cos then I will not be able to keep my word to myself and be supportive of you for a year no matter the results.

I wIll then have to acknowledge that to get this team up to scratch is not a work in process or progress :oops:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Bulls supporters, Spies is staying&#8230;&#8230;.pleeeeeeeeeeez Meyer do not include him in the Bok team ever again cos then I will not be able to keep my word to myself and be supportive of you for a year no matter the results.</p>
<p>I wIll then have to acknowledge that to get this team up to scratch is not a work in process or progress <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ahasaid theclown</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252687</link>
		<dc:creator>ahasaid theclown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252372&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeraldjay-242&lt;/a&gt;:  wrong Joel..

otherwise known as Ahab the Arab .. or for less principled reasons Aha-saith-Zarathustra]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252372" rel="nofollow">Jeraldjay-242</a>:  wrong Joel..</p>
<p>otherwise known as Ahab the Arab .. or for less principled reasons Aha-saith-Zarathustra</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/18/kings-on-the-rise/#comment-2252684</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2252217&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wnbb-109&lt;/a&gt;: Wnbb, nice insults you are throwing around and it shows the character of the region you support.
I have just a question concerning the Kings, What have they done the [ast decade to elevate themselfs past the B section of the CC?.
Even with SARU being their partner in the region they could not make the Premier division, so they demanded their inclusion into Super rugby.
You and the pro kings ca,p are throwing stones constantly at the LIONS poor record, well I am sure the kings have a better record than the LIONS in the Currie Cup.
Next we look at your Varsity cup record, in which leaque did NMMU play in and how many times did they even contest a semi in the competition? not many if any.
Sure ther are very talented players coming out of the region, but they want to play and ply their trade elsewhere.
Its funny how you breakdown the Gauteng area to justify your view points, but forget that the structures will be damaged with this decision that was made. So I guess to satisfy the needs of a region that cannot even improve without the help of politics and SARU, we kill off a 120 year old union for the selfish demands of another.
This my dear dillusional comrade is why most people dislike the kings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2252217" rel="nofollow">wnbb-109</a>: Wnbb, nice insults you are throwing around and it shows the character of the region you support.<br />
I have just a question concerning the Kings, What have they done the [ast decade to elevate themselfs past the B section of the CC?.<br />
Even with SARU being their partner in the region they could not make the Premier division, so they demanded their inclusion into Super rugby.<br />
You and the pro kings ca,p are throwing stones constantly at the LIONS poor record, well I am sure the kings have a better record than the LIONS in the Currie Cup.<br />
Next we look at your Varsity cup record, in which leaque did NMMU play in and how many times did they even contest a semi in the competition? not many if any.<br />
Sure ther are very talented players coming out of the region, but they want to play and ply their trade elsewhere.<br />
Its funny how you breakdown the Gauteng area to justify your view points, but forget that the structures will be damaged with this decision that was made. So I guess to satisfy the needs of a region that cannot even improve without the help of politics and SARU, we kill off a 120 year old union for the selfish demands of another.<br />
This my dear dillusional comrade is why most people dislike the kings.</p>
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		<title>By: roobarb2</title>
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		<dc:creator>roobarb2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Look Xhosa, im not against EP Rugby. In fact, due to some of my closer mates, Ive always had a soft spot for the region and its rugby history.&quot;


some of my best friends are EP supporters :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Look Xhosa, im not against EP Rugby. In fact, due to some of my closer mates, Ive always had a soft spot for the region and its rugby history.&#8221;</p>
<p>some of my best friends are EP supporters <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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