SA’s long-term investment
23 Oct 2012
Johan Goosen has the potential to become a truly world-class flyhalf for the Springboks.
Every elite rugby playing country wishes they had a Dan Carter. But none more so than the All Blacks’ bitter rivals, the Springboks.
There have been false dawns, Gaffie du Toit the most notable of those. Others have been cast aside early as pretenders. Not so Goosen. He has something special, with just enough special to stir hope that the Springboks may have, in him, at very least a strong rebuttal to Carter, at best an answer to him.
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In an exclusive interview with SA Rugby magazine, Goosen talks about:
- How he doesn’t feel the pressure of Test rugby
- Why he sometimes gets very emotional
- His early playing days
- Why he’s always prepared to ‘have a go’ when it comes to long-range goal kicks
- Why there’s no difference between kicking for posts at Super Rugby and Test levels
- How he deals with criticism
- His preferred style of play
- His challengers for the Bok No 10 jersey
- Why he’ll stay at the Cheetahs
Also in the new issue:
– Why the Springboks must make an honest assessment of their 2012 season if they are to improve
– Once South African rugby’s forgotten man, Francois Louw could ironically become one of the Springboks’ most important figures in seasons to come
– Cory Jane has proven that size doesn’t matter when it comes to Test wings
– SA Rugby magazine analyses the Springboks’ end-of-year tour opponents
– Leinster hooker Richardt Strauss could soon be representing Ireland on the Test stage
– Tim Visser was born and raised in the Netherlands, where rugby is an insignificant sport. Now he’s playing at the highest level for Scotland
– England centre Brad Barritt is finally starting to realise his potential as a Test player
– Ghanaian-born wing Raymond Rhule had an outstanding Currie Cup for the Cheetahs
– JP du Plessis is pleased to be back in the Western Cape after short stints with the Sydney Roosters and Melbourne Rebels
– Warren Gatland will become the second New Zealander to coach the Lions when they tour Australia next year, but he’s unlikely to make the same mistakes as Graham Henry in 2001
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416 Comments
23 Oct 2012, 06:13 am
Obama Dragons!
23 Oct 2012, 06:25 am
He’s just too injury prone for this stage in his career, I don’t see him having consistent game time to establish himself at test level.
23 Oct 2012, 06:28 am
Haven’t we had this conversation before about put soo much faith in players with “potential”
Fark me
23 Oct 2012, 06:32 am
Jp du plessis, the next generation…
23 Oct 2012, 06:34 am
@Jinx2 LMAO at Obama Dragons
23 Oct 2012, 06:37 am
He is not even at the level of the very competent, exciting and skillful Aaron Cruden(remember those exceptional 24 mins. against an Ireland that thought they could beat the ABs) yet but these deluded morons compare him to Dan Carter?
These guys and their supposed rugby ‘knowledge’?
Anyway work beckons as a quiet day here awaits with the threatening Shark boycott hovering overhead.
23 Oct 2012, 06:41 am
@Neilanate-6:
Ah, the silence of the Lambies!
23 Oct 2012, 06:42 am
Hey Transie, only realising now that Rhule is my homeboy
23 Oct 2012, 06:43 am
@David-7:
Please do not be mean. This place will be the lesser for the absence of an adversary.
23 Oct 2012, 06:45 am
@papaown-8
Which Tswana or even Kei is that to be?
23 Oct 2012, 06:45 am
@Neilanate-6: oh please…remember aarkn cruden’s debut Tests? He wasn’t flash either & was behinf colin slade at some point as he was considered a tad erratic.
Goosen’s made a bigger impact on his debut year in super rugby than cruden in his.
23 Oct 2012, 06:47 am
@papaown-8: really ? He be Oja
23 Oct 2012, 06:48 am
Yesterday Lambie, today Goosen tomorow Janjties. This site and its praise singing is really good at praise singing…
23 Oct 2012, 06:52 am
@Transformation-11:
No I do not remember “aarkn”.
In any case homey it is all a matter of perception. Yours against mine and I needlessly will support my perceptions against yours any day- nature of the beast of the feast.
23 Oct 2012, 06:56 am
@Neilanate-9:
I think we all agreed that Lambie should be at 10 for the , yet our Sharkie friends carried on the whole complaining that we were Lambie/Sharks haters, then stormed out in a manufactured huff. They should be appearing in one of those Victorian melodramas.
23 Oct 2012, 06:58 am
Wonderful talent , pity about the injuries….great to have 3 fine 10 prospects….
23 Oct 2012, 07:00 am
We build players up only to discard them and break them down.
Our biggest asset , the number of players, is also our biggest liability. With all the potential Gossen has , in NZ he would still be below Jantjies and Lambie in the pecking order.
He would be allowed to develop with stints off the bench. Jantjies and Lambie had similar debut seasons and no one rushed to start them!
23 Oct 2012, 07:04 am
@grant10-16: I have serious reservations about you being the real Grant10.
Every day 2 line comments of positivity with non-commital, lack of emotion comments.
What’s going on?
23 Oct 2012, 07:05 am
@David-15:
The discussion moved a lot further than that and to the point where a dumb power-drunk Nikita said ” The Sharkies poluting the thread”. And that triggered their ire and started a boycott..
Anyway i have to go.
23 Oct 2012, 07:06 am
@Neilanate-14: the point is, cruden was nowhere near as “competent” as he is right now after his debut season, even you can’t lie about that…he is in his 3rd super rugby season & well coached by rennie * strawbridge plus playing next to sbw did him a world of good as sonny called the play sometimes relieving pressure on cruden.
23 Oct 2012, 07:16 am
@Transformation-20:
And you ‘know’ all that because you were privileged to be called secretively aside by Hansen or “rennie” or “sbw” or any combination of those to have that eruditely explained to you in fascinating detail.
‘Knowledge’ she is a dangerous thing in the hands of a great thumb-sucker.
The road calls. Bye now.
23 Oct 2012, 07:20 am
@Transformation-11:
agreed, he was poor. even at the hurricanes he showed erratic form and ability.
he’s really matured at well at the chiefs, good composure under pressure as well option taking, most times.
23 Oct 2012, 07:21 am
he’s really matured at well = he’s really matured well
23 Oct 2012, 07:26 am
This heading sounds a bit like an insurance ad…
23 Oct 2012, 07:32 am
@Neilanate-21: loo
k, you came here spouting about a “competent cruden” now when faced with a view countering your psrochial assertion you resort to obfuscation hehehe…
Back your also uninformed “perception” with some form or nuanced argument or pipe down
23 Oct 2012, 07:40 am
@Transformation-20:
what i like about him is that, like all really good 10′s who go on to become greats, he has that demeanour which, even when the time and space is tight, just screams calmness, unhurried ease and masterly ability to make the play regardless.
a little cliche’d but, ‘he plays in the matrix’. goosen has this, as well pollard to my mind, lambie and elton, though good and at times exhibiting these traits, seem to be doubtful and a little stifffer… less animated and still caught up in their mental limitations of what their minds can and will allow them to do within the matrix.
this is onr of the hallmarks of a great player who could establish his/a legend… form, injury and fate permitting.
23 Oct 2012, 07:42 am
oosen has this, as well pollard to my mind, lambie and elton, though = oosen has this, as well pollard to my mind. lambie and elton, though
23 Oct 2012, 07:43 am
goosen has this, as well pollard to my mind. lambie and elton, though
23 Oct 2012, 07:43 am
Is something wrong with Jantjies?
23 Oct 2012, 07:45 am
@papaown-18:
grant took stock of himself, his behaviour and how this affected peoples perceptions of him on here.
that’s a good thing.
23 Oct 2012, 07:48 am
@Hondo-29:
i dont know, that depends.
who are you asking this question of and why?
23 Oct 2012, 07:49 am
As the Stormers dragging their feet on Jantjies’ contract, his price tag is going up!
He might be snatched soon by a French club if Rob Wagner keeps showing lack of urgency in the matter
23 Oct 2012, 07:57 am
Apart from Gaffie, I do think Andre Pretorius had the potential to become a brilliant Bok flyhalf, pity the man always got injured when he started hitting form. I just hope the same does not happen to young Goossen who does seem to be very injury prone.
My 2cents worth on the flyhalf issue, I would keep Elton, Pat and Johan in the mix as my Bok flyhalfs during the next two years, one of them will rise above the others eventually and that is the guy you make your premier flyhalf in the year before the World Cup and allow him to then settle into the position. Picking your flyhalf now and placing all your eggs in one basket for a world cup in three years time is crazy.
23 Oct 2012, 08:06 am
Goosen is the truth.
Needs some more upper body strength but not too much to stifle his agility, just enough to stand his ground like say a D. Carter.
23 Oct 2012, 08:07 am
@papaown-18: Heyneke Meyer starts with Spies or M Steyn then I will have reason to get crazy, with F Louw playing and my ‘ pet hates ‘ Plod, Spies and M Steyn finally being consigned to the scrap heap , where I wanted them 2 bloody years ago already, I dont have much to complain about….
Pity it took 2 years though….
23 Oct 2012, 08:14 am
It is reassuring to know that we have such competent backup for Morne Steyn. Grant can take over immediately, if necessary and Goosen, Jantjies and Lambie should all be ready in about four to five years.
23 Oct 2012, 08:18 am
Agree but at less than 20 lets not rush him too fast plus we have good choices in Lambie and Jantjies to share the fly half load until he becomes the real deal. Suggest 2013 play Lambie as the main starting fly half with Goosen getting 30/40% game time through the year and by year end he will be showing his greatness. Lambie goes through the same process after this at full back and Jantjies stays in the mix as number 2 fly half up to 2015. All three at world cup 2015 gives us an edge.
23 Oct 2012, 08:19 am
Comparing Goosen to Cruden is suggesting he is a fill in until a truly adequate flyhalf is found
When Carter retires, the battle for his spot in the AB’s will be between Barrett and the runt from Palmey.
My pick will be Barrett long term with Cruden doing what he is doing now, warming the benches.
23 Oct 2012, 08:22 am
With all the prop and hooker injuries and teams now having to have a full front row on the bench, what do reckon the chances John Smit gets a call up for the EOYT?
23 Oct 2012, 08:22 am
@Hondo-32:
oh, ok. he really should hve gone to the sharks imo but good luck to him and the stormers, hope it works. they’re obvioulsy trying to use as much leverage as they can and the more they stall the better their position, perhaps.
going overseas would not be the worst of outcomes for him as there is an oversupply of bok flyhalfs at the moment and he is not top of the list. without a super team to play for maybe its not such a bad idea.
lambie is in the same position in that he is not the top rated flyhalf in the country but is kept here by the promise of getting game time as the super squad flyhalf for the sharks.
23 Oct 2012, 08:26 am
@Craven-33:
@Finfan-36:
i would put fouche and pollard in that mix too.
23 Oct 2012, 08:32 am
@John Galt-39: Great idea….
If you Irish, Scottish or English…
23 Oct 2012, 08:33 am
@Transformation-25: In New Zealand a players improve with more experience, in SA the opposite happens.
Goosen will be good now, but come 3years time, we will be calling for his head.
I dont think its got anything to do with the player, its our wonderful game plan which sees players changing their own style of play to suit it. End result Gaffie Du Toit.
23 Oct 2012, 08:34 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-41:
fouche? really now..
the bulls have been putrid at times in the CC- all fouche is good for is kicking at goals.. another morne steyn in the making, slightly worse id guess
pollard is still very young, hes so far from the bok squad its ridiculous
dont think he’ll ever make it to vecoming a regular bok
the talent we already have at 10nis more than suffice, pollard and fouche have nothing more to add
23 Oct 2012, 08:34 am
The EOTYT is the perfect opportunity to give the true second choice (second best) flyhalf in the country a chance to make the 10 jersey his own.
Goosen is young and can still be used off the bench for the next couple of seasons…
Hopefully, in Goosen’s absence, Lambo and Jantjies will be the flyhalves in the squad for the tour…No Morne… If MS is ever in great form again then he can contend for the 2nd or 3rd spot…
Never again should he be considered as first choice, not while Lambie, Jantjies and Goosen are playing good rugby…
But will HM let go of the idea that Lambie is best suited at 15? If he does who will Kirchner’s understudy be? Taute? Lets hope so, because he’s not the best outside center…not with JDJ, Jordaan and JJ to choose from…
What ever happened to the U21 bok flyhalf? He signed with the bulls right? Pity he has to contend with Lionel Cronje, Fouche and MSteyn. He’s never going to see game time at super rugby level…
23 Oct 2012, 08:35 am
@John Galt-39:
If Meyer selected Smit for the EOYT, then you can be certain he is fixated with the current and nothing about the future.
Personally, I can’t believe any half decent coach would do what you are suggesting.
Perhaps if the tour was nearly over, there was an injury crisis and the team needed one more win for a clean sweep.
Maybe then go back to the future, but setting out on the tour in that manner would be a defeatist decision and a kick in the guts for all the promising hookers and props hoping for selection.
So, the chances of Meyer selecting Smit are vanishingly slim.
23 Oct 2012, 08:38 am
@Jeez-45:
louis ludik and willie le roux is so far ahead of niknaks man its a joke
for me, either taute or ludik should be fighting for the bok 15
niknaks shouldnt even be in the squad
23 Oct 2012, 08:50 am
Barry Soetoro used a teleprompter during the US Presidential Debate, but then again does he ever say anything without the prompter?
23 Oct 2012, 08:52 am
@Brads-46:
Yeah I was just pulling legs with that one.
Would be a disastrous move. Meyer would never do it anyway.
23 Oct 2012, 08:55 am
@Brads-38: no he is noy a “fill in” our resident know-it-all Nielanate was trying to disparage johan when in fact goosen has made far more of an impact than cruden in his debut season…that’s as far as the comparison goes.
23 Oct 2012, 08:57 am
@Sheriff-48:
Amazing those yanks, I didn’t even notice with my reception.
You must get an extra special HD reception not yet invented here on Earth.
Lucky you.
23 Oct 2012, 09:02 am
@jacoshark-44:
well then we disagree.
fouche has been really good at times for the bulls this season but i agree is too erratic as yet. hopefully he matures better in next season. his kicking is a strength but its not where it should be, in fact i would say his tactical kicking and passing has been better than his kicking, to often.
if you have been watching cc games then try to do so with an open mind and unbiased eyes?
pollard is/has got the kind of talent and ability which puts him in the ‘if he’s good enough he’s old enough’ category. one only need look at his performances in the junoir wc. do not kid yourself if you think that pollard will not be featuring in the bok mix in the not too distant future.
considering some of the factor concerned i would say the immediate and next two to three season bok flyhalf position is very much up for grabs (and so it should be until a chosen one cements it as his own).
we know the coach does not rate lambie in the postion so there is no point in flogging the dead horses there, and elton at best will be journeyman backup/benchwarmer by the look of things. considering that goosen has quite clearly leapfogged him.
i would say it up for grabs for any of fouche, pollard, goosen, morne, lambie and elton to contest for (with goosen in the driving seat and morne next to him, pat and elton are in the back but only cos the drivers are having difficulties at present).
23 Oct 2012, 09:05 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-52:
n fact i would say his tactical kicking and passing has been better than his kicking, to often. = goal kicking
23 Oct 2012, 09:15 am
Lambie has to go down in history as thee most dicked around player of all time with regards to the boks. I still cant see Meyer selecting him at 10 even for the eoyt. Besides that, I also still dont buy into all the hype surrounding the goose, way to much smoke being blown up his arse for f okall
23 Oct 2012, 09:16 am
@Brads-51:
Thanks son. Yeah, I have noticed for some time that this guy seldom engages with the audience/crowds but seems to be a relay point of incoming signals be it written or audio.
Who is this guy really? Is he from Egypt?
But does it really matter, whether it is him for another term or Mitt – the Bilderbergers will have continuity with their agenda.
US of A & Vatican = the custodians of the Babylonian religion; conspiracy theory? Wait and see. Go to Google Images and search: St Peters Basilica and Washington DC – see the womb of Isis and obelisks? Co-incidence?
23 Oct 2012, 09:19 am
I would put Dimitri Katrikilus in there.
The future Henry Honiball.
Skinstadt said so!
23 Oct 2012, 09:26 am
@stormersboy-56:
i dont think peter grant would like that (and i think he would have a point).
23 Oct 2012, 09:28 am
@BokkeYouBeauties-54:
the only question in lambie’s case is whether he will stick around knowing he is not the 1st, 2nd and possibly even 3rd choice springbok 10.
23 Oct 2012, 09:31 am
Grant choked like he had a 20 inch cucumber rammed down his throat, during s15 semi final against sharks at home
23 Oct 2012, 09:32 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-57: Haha no he’s going to be a King next year remember?
I was actually just being ironic. During the Cheetahs WP game they complimented the way he was playing and Bob said it reminded him of HH.
23 Oct 2012, 09:39 am
Ghanian born Raymond Rhule. That explains his amazing strength.
23 Oct 2012, 09:40 am
@stormersboy-60:
hehe
i know
23 Oct 2012, 09:42 am
Goosen, Lambie, Jantjies
Boks are well stocked in terms of Flyhalf quality.
23 Oct 2012, 09:44 am
I’d rather have Dimitri at 10 – Mr Consistant than Jantjies who blows hot or cold … Elton has brilliant games against weak teams ….
23 Oct 2012, 09:45 am
Heinecken’s main mission will be to bring about some respectability to the win ratio,very interested to see team selection
23 Oct 2012, 09:47 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-52:
HM rightfully picked Lambie at 15 because that is where he played most of the season during SR, thats why he wasnt considered at 10..
Now things just might change…Especially when Lambie will be picked at 10 during next year’s SR..If the Sharks win the final, it will be hard not to admit that Lambie is the number one 10 in the country at the mo…
Jantjies surely a close second… But if continuity prevails Jantjies should get the nod and Lambie be second choice…But if form is the reason for selection then Lambie should get it…
I figure HM will be back to his stubborn ways and give the 10 jersey to MS. Lambie to stay on the bench as backup 15…
The selection at lock is going to be interesting…
23 Oct 2012, 09:51 am
@BokkeYouBeauties-65: We should go out and win all 3 games. The Irish game being the toughest.
Heyneke must keep the team more or less the same. Add 1 or 2 bolters/youngsters.
23 Oct 2012, 09:52 am
I remember a number of young 10s over the years, bursting onto the scene with signs of amazing talent and then disappointing, in a number of countries. Anyone remember Stephen Bretts performances for the ‘Saders when DC was out for a season? Let’s give these youngsters time to prove themselves before annointing the next messiah.
I reckon HM will go with Morne on the EOYT and be extremely conservative in his selections as he tries to salvage something from a disastrous win ratio for the year. His best bet is to hope next years S15 and a return by injured players will answer some of his positional questions before the incoming tours. Whether he then makes better choices is, of course, another matter.
23 Oct 2012, 09:54 am
Sheriff #55 – Are you hinting at the Rothchilds and their ownership of the international banking cartels?
23 Oct 2012, 09:54 am
@Jeez-66: HM rightfully picked Lambie at 15 because that is where he played most of the season during SR, thats why he wasnt considered at 10..
Incorrect. The number of times he played at flyhalf this season was mentioned a few times on here. I think it was 9 at flyhalf until he got injured then 3 at fullback.
Lambie should start for the Boks at 10 on the EOYT. M.Steyn should be watching the EOYT from his beachside villa in Mauritius.
23 Oct 2012, 09:55 am
@Jeez-66:
HM didn’t just pick Lambie as a 15, he stated that he considered him a better 15 than 10. Why, I’ll never know.
23 Oct 2012, 10:01 am
@Jeez-66:
He played more games at 10 than 15.
Hougaard played more games at 9 than wing yet he is playing wing for boks…………
23 Oct 2012, 10:10 am
@Mr Black-72: Strange selections from Mr Meyer. Hougaard will make a great impact player.
23 Oct 2012, 10:14 am
@race of tan-69:
I suppose I’m hinting at a host of things
In a nutshell what I am referring to is the agenda of the Adversary in these last days. You will recall that when Yeshua ben Yosef walked in the Galil (Galilea) he encountered people who were demon-possessed from time to time.
They would say things like: we know who you are, you are the Son of God. Or have you come to punish us prematurely? His response was usually to tell them to shut up.
So, there is demonic knowledge of future events out there. Given the urgency (or the fact that time is running out) there is an escalation of events to push their agenda, the New World Order. To name but a few:
Sep11; Manipulation of the crude oil price; the threat of global warming; financial crises the world over; US Fed Reserve $40 billion a month stimulus (think they call it quantitative easing)
The plans they are still hatching (future) secretly, behind tinted windows and closed boardrooms have been predicted (past) centuries ago
So the event in the US affect us, albeit indirectly – the price we pay at the pump is actually not so indirect…
23 Oct 2012, 10:16 am
@Jeez-66:
He played most S15 games at 10 Jeez.
Only started playing 15 right at the end after injury when Fred was having a cracker.
23 Oct 2012, 10:18 am
Players like Lambie epitomize qualities in great test rugby players. Yes, there is natural talent and skills that have to be there first and foremost, but then there is also a certain temperament that almost transforms players into a different beast at international level. I feel Lambie has been bestowed with this great gift
. The greater the challenge, the greater he rises to it. Sure Goosen may have the edge in the skills on offer column, but whether he has that certain Diddly doo daa i still think remains to be seen. Until we start seeing articles like Goosen Boots Boks/Cheetas into Final, i think his ego needs to be deflated somewhat.
23 Oct 2012, 10:19 am
My bok team for EOYT
1. Beast, CJ (will need the experience), Kitshoff
2. Adriaan, Chiliboy, Burden
3. Jannie, Cilliers
4. Etzebeth, Flip
5. Kruger, Steph du Toit
6. Flo, Coetzee
7. Alberts, Deysel
8. Vermeulen, Daniel
9. Pienaar, Hougaard, Reinach
10. Lambie, Jantjies
11. Habana, Rhule
12. JDV, Whitehead
13. JdJ, JJ
14. JPP, Basson
15. Kirchner, Taute
23 Oct 2012, 10:22 am
Ok let me say something about rugby here quickly:
The Sharks should win quite comfortably as they are the more balanced unit. It’s sad for me to say that as a Province fan, but that’s the reality.
Province’s strength and chance is the enthusiasm of youth.
They have nothing to lose; to play conservative – or differently stated, to play Heyneke Meyer rugby will be suicidal. They need to go out there and surprise the Sharks – that is there only chance.
By speeding up the game, they will tire the more experienced /older Sharks players and then anything can happen.
But I would not be surprised if the Sharks prevail… and if they do then it will be the 3rd consecutive year that a Kiwi coach wins our domestic competition
23 Oct 2012, 10:23 am
‘their only chance’
23 Oct 2012, 10:23 am
@Mr Black-72: There’s not much sense, in trying to find sense in Meyer’s selections
Coaching and tactic aside, surely personnel is always the biggest factor.
23 Oct 2012, 10:24 am
@Sasuke-77:
Is Frans out for the year?
23 Oct 2012, 10:26 am
sheriff – You should create your own blog with this stuff, fascinating!!
23 Oct 2012, 10:33 am
@Sasuke-77: Meyer would love a pack of heavies like that to start
23 Oct 2012, 10:33 am
@David-81: Yip i think so. Will only be back in December/January.
23 Oct 2012, 10:34 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-57: A draw is like a loss for the All Blacks
Article By: Tony, Johnson
Tuesday, 23 October 2012 3.16 p.m.
Is there anything in rugby more frustrating or less satisfying than a draw?
The All Blacks will treat Saturday’s stalemate in Brisbane as a defeat, while the Wallabies will probably be more inclined to regard it as some kind of victory, although if they are honest with themselves they will now know they let a gilt edged opportunity to score a win with an under strength side against the world’s best team.
Not that the All Blacks playing anything like up to that billing.
It is hard to know what ailed them.
Perhaps they fell back into an old trap of thinking, too far ahead, about the world record for consecutive wins that is now 18 games away again and not two.
It’s hard to imagine but they might have been focusing so much on doing the business for two revered comrades, Steve Hansen and Keven Mealamu, they lost focus on the task at hand.
Maybe they just didn’t get their preparation right and maybe they were just a tad flat after their outstanding sweep of the rugby championship.
Maybe a bit of all of the above, but in the end they were perhaps a little bit fortunate to escape even with a draw, although they made a bold last ditch effort that almost stole it after the hooter.
That would be the one positive they can take out of this match and that is the undeniable fact that they showed a lot more fortitude in trying for the win than the Wallabies. To take a scrum within range of their own posts from a penalty was brave given the chances of conceding a penalty, and they almost pulled it off.
The Wallabies on the other hand simply did not believe in their ability to win by means of anything other than Craig Joubert’s whistle.
He is the best referee in the world, Joubert, even if some consider him to be a “homer”, more inclined to give benefit of the doubt to his hosts. He was tough on the All Blacks at times on Saturday, but you could not fault his composure and control at the end as the Wallabies tried to milk a penalty.
They had every opportunity to try a dropped goal, but Kurtley Beale lost his bottle and refused to call for the ball.
The guy who would have backed himself to take the pot was “Aussie” Mike Harris and he certainly made himself available, but Beale, who had a shocker of a second half, just kept waving the forwards on, and in the end they simply ran out of energy and conceded a penalty.
In contrast Dan Carter may have been disconsolate after the game after missing the drop, but he at least backed himself to have a go in the way Michael Jordan would always shoulder responsibility for taking the three pointer on the buzzer. That’s what great players do, and sometimes they don’t succeed. Carter is not to blame for New Zealand not winning.
It was more a collective responsibility, and they will need to face up to that if they are to complete an unbeaten year because England and Wales will now sense the sniff of an opportunity.
The end might have been thrilling, but it was not a great test.
The Wallabies certainly raised their intensity, superbly led by Nathan Sharpe, although their willingness to mix it spilled over into another gutless assault on the All Black captain.
Scott Higginbotham seems to be the appointed “enforcer” of the Wallaby side but he is wasting his superb physical credentials with his almost obsessive desire to take out players off the ball around the fringes.
He got away with a lot on Saturday night but he did not get away with the knee to McCaw’s face and the subsequent head butt.
He might have been able to lie his way out of the kneeing charge in the way Quade Cooper did last year, but the butt revealed his true intentions. It was pure filth and for the judicial officer to describe it as “low level” misses the point completely.
So like Sisyphus, the character of Greek legend charged by the Gods with rolling a stone up to the top of a mountain, only to forever slip within sight of the summit, the All Blacks have seen this particular rock roll back down to the bottom again.
But they are still unbeaten, even after their worst performance in a year, and while the Wallabies might see this as a sign of promised success when and if they get their full compliment back, they have guaranteed themselves zero chance of catching the All Blacks off guard when they play their two Bledisloe Cup tests in New Zealand next year.
23 Oct 2012, 10:37 am
@BokkeYouBeauties-83: Starting pack
1. Beast
2. Strauss
3. Jannie
4. Etzebeth
5. Kruger
6. Flo
7. Alberts
8. Vermeulen
Only one change from the last game played with Bekker out and Kruger in.
Bench
16. Chiliboy
17. CJ
18. Cilliers
19. Flip
20. Coetzee.
The three front row bench comes into affect for the EOYT right?
23 Oct 2012, 10:39 am
@Sheriff-78: I think the sharks did well against the Bulls cos they were prepared for them, and they’re plan worked. Kept Morne’ out of kicking range virtually the whole game and kept their discipline. 3 points against is a fair reflection of that plan working well. The Sharks will have to believe that the Stormers are going to want to keep the ball more. It’s definitely not going to be a repeat of last weekend, so i think the Stormers have a good chance, even tho the odds are not stacked in their favor
23 Oct 2012, 10:44 am
@Sheriff-74:
23 Oct 2012, 10:49 am
Just read that Alistair Coetzee requested that new signings, Jantjies and Taute, be allowed to play in the CC final on Saturday in order for them “to get used to the WP culture and structures.” This was “rejected with contempt” by SARU. Coetzee nevertheless indicated that he would appeal the decision.
23 Oct 2012, 10:50 am
@race of tan-82:
Thanks for the compliment!
However, not even I feel to talk about these heavy topics all the time. My idea is merely to table topics. For e.g I’m stating that Sep 11 was orchestrated by a dark force, so that’s something that someone can investigate in their own time.
Use youtube and see what top structural engineers say about the events. See how ‘black boxes’ conveniently disappear…almost like SAPS dockets here in SA
Read up on the Bilderbergers Group and see that it is not just in someone’s imagination. And while one is at it, begin to study what Freemasonry is really about. it’s not the generous charity organisation to which distinguished white gentlemen (and increasingly black ones too!!!!) belong that they would like us to believe …
See why the ANC 100 year celebrations resembled that of the National Party of the Groot Trek.
Oh yes, did anyone wonder why the ANC has a wagon wheel on their logo? It’s actually a sunwheel …we are know that their ancestors did not travel by ox wagon, so why is it so important to be included in the logo??
I guess what i’m saying in a non-religious way: Wake up!!
23 Oct 2012, 10:50 am
@Finfan-89: Serious? Cheeky by Coetzee.
23 Oct 2012, 10:53 am
@Sasuke-86: Its a bull-ish pack, not that there are alot of bulls in it, just lots a bash it up heavies. With a pack like this, we’re stuck with
Plan A: Bliksem;
Plan B: Donner.
23 Oct 2012, 10:58 am
@BokkeYouBeauties-92: lol Who would you add?
23 Oct 2012, 10:59 am
@Jeez-66:
you make good points, unfortunately i don’t have time to answer meaningfully right now… will do so later. for now i wil lsay that ja, probably morne and elton to be picked at 10 for the eoyt with lambie either a fb or covering both postions.
in regards the lock choices… no, its simple… bring back bakkies
23 Oct 2012, 11:03 am
@BokkeYouBeauties-87:
Yeah it could be a fascinating contest!
Province has had their fair share of chokes over the last few years, so how do they approach this one?
I say remove the shackles and run the Sharks to pieces. Well that’s what the Sharks will set out to do.
You see what Heyneke Meyer does not understand is by transferring the ball from 9 to a forward as 1st receiver; you are slowing the game down. Now that he does because he believes that Afrikaners are bigger and stronger than anyone on earth. Why else would he persist with something so stupid?
Sharks will look to breach with Reinach at 9 (Charl as impact player later) transfer to Lambie who has to be on the money. He in turn will offload to another backline player, maybe JPP and then back to the loosies (Keegan and co)
Plum is a Kiwi; that’s how Kiwis play and it will be no different on Saturday.
Province’s big opportunity is to disrupt 9 & 10 of the Sharks
23 Oct 2012, 11:08 am
sheriff – It is rather frustrating reading about the BilderBergers and the Fed Reserve, as these people are untouchable except from Yahweh!
Interesting about the ANC flag, will read up on that!
23 Oct 2012, 11:08 am
@John Galt-75:
wasn’y he injured for a while too?
@Transformation-85:
The Wallabies on the other hand simply did not believe in their ability to win by means of anything other than Craig Joubert’s whistle.
He is the best referee in the world, Joubert, even if some consider him to be a “homer”, more inclined to give benefit of the doubt to his hosts. He was tough on the All Blacks at times on Saturday, but you could not fault his composure and control at the end as the Wallabies tried to milk a penalty.
They had every opportunity to try a dropped goal, but Kurtley Beale lost his bottle and refused to call for the ball.
The guy who would have backed himself to take the pot was “Aussie” Mike Harris and he certainly made himself available, but Beale, who had a shocker of a second half, just kept waving the forwards on, and in the end they simply ran out of energy and conceded a penalty.
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in the above section he comes close but ultimately fails (TJ aka doos).
oz, by rights, should have been given a penalty for the repeated offsides infringments in the last two minutes as well the extra time al lthe way up to him blowing oz instead.
its got farkall to do with milking.
23 Oct 2012, 11:14 am
@Finfan-89:
seriously, i dont see what the fuss is. they’re not mercenary players coming in from a foreign league for the sole pupose of playing in the knockout games.
i would let them.
but then the sharkies would cry blue murder and say its not fair…. not fair like the way mark lawrence changed the laws of rugby on the fly for them on saturday not fair…
23 Oct 2012, 11:14 am
So,Sharkievarkies like Sharkslover and Puma left over one sentence containing the word ‘polluting’.Disappointed with Puma,but fully expected SL to do pull off a stunt like that.In any case they,especially SL,will be back on Saturday night.I fully expect a Sharks victory.
23 Oct 2012, 11:18 am
@race of tan-96:
I know what you mean.
Judas Iscariot was also untouchable, or was he? Like Judas whose act of betraying Messiah was prophesied long before he even lived, these enemies of Messiah will also plot their rebellion seemingly untouchable.
Judas was the bean counter; the chartered accountant in our modern society those who always look to manipulate people and events to make money…
Remember how indignant he was when Mary anointed Yeshua with the expensive oil? He said: this oil could have been sold and the proceeds given to charity?
This comment did not slip Yeshua’s attention, He actually responded to him and said that she has done a great thing; she unknowingly anointed him for His burial.
23 Oct 2012, 11:21 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-98: no man, they played for the Lions on saturday, Coetzee is MAL!
finfan, where did you read this?
23 Oct 2012, 11:25 am
So why complain about the fact that Barry uses a teleprompter?
Anyone joining a debate society at school for eg hopes to develop the following skills:
1. To think on your feet
2. To articulate your position with persuasion
So why do they set up a Presidential debate? This is supposedly to honour the principles of fairness and transparency to give the American voter an opportunity to see what these candidates have to say on a variety of topics.
They should hear the argument of the other and challenge it. almost like lawyers in court.
By using a teleprompter you are committing fraud in that you are now not seeing that candidate’s views and skills- you are really hearing the puppet master behind the curtain.
So why do they do this? Because everything about them is a lie. You see something that they want you to see, but the truth is something else.
The harsh reality is that the winner has in all likelihood already been decided and they are merely going through the motions. Sick isn’t it?
But Americans love it…
23 Oct 2012, 11:28 am
It was one year ago today.
Ritchie showed the fans how to play.
That’s right Oke Dokies.
NZ have been World Champs for a year now.
23 Oct 2012, 11:29 am
@Transformation-101: Agree, Coetzee is crazy. Apparently the WP players are up in arms about this and threatened to strike if Taute and Jantjies get more than 10 minutes on the field this Saturday.
23 Oct 2012, 11:31 am
@cane-103:
Yeah it’s a year since the ‘Day of Big Relief’
And only a year later and Ted is now plotting the demise of NZ rugby as part of the Arg rugby
Ted may want to prove one more thing: that he taught Steve Hansen everything he knows
23 Oct 2012, 11:34 am
What a difference in perspectives between NZ and SA coaches…
John Mitchel favours Lambie for the bok 12 jersey playing alongside either Jantjies/Goosen. Its a mentality displayed by the AB’s over the years where their most influential playmakers are involved early in phase play or indeed in set piece movements.
Size and where a player stacks up on the intimidation scale has had very little to do with selection. Remember the Carter/Mauger combo, with Umaga outside them? In Graham Henry’s book he underlines his mistake to abolish that combo going into the world cup.
Tackling has always been a technical skill in rugby and since when is 90 kg considered too small?? Only in this country where the tyranny of an oppressive regime still rears its ugly head in the guise of intimidation and cheap shots on the rugby field.
Jantjies, Lambie, Goosen, FSteyn…for now @ least, are our playmakers and three of these boys should be on the field and any coach worth his bloody salt would engineer that.
23 Oct 2012, 11:42 am
@Transformation-101:
if you want to be the best you must beat the best.
sharkies must lose the kiwi mentality and rather choose to play the strongest team they can, where they can, thus righltly earning the honour of being the best team and worthy champions.
this is an opportunity for them to do so.
@fishdish-106:
tackling ability is less a prerequisite than strength to break through tackles / straighten the attack for 12′s i would think.
its not not about lambie being able to tackle at all, its about him not being strong enough to break the line willfully and forcefully, as a 12.
23 Oct 2012, 11:42 am
Show us the article,Finfan…plain and simple.At this stage I can only say that you are bored and full of bollocks .
23 Oct 2012, 11:43 am
@wnbb-99:
I’d expected a bit more maturity from guys of their age than to make an issue of the words from a young girl who, admittedly acted unprofessionally, even though it was a joke.
I see they’re complaining on RT that Nikita actually insulted the whole of Durban and have taken an oath of allegiance to Rudi.
23 Oct 2012, 11:43 am
frans steyn is.
23 Oct 2012, 11:43 am
Goosen will only be a long term investment if he is well managed, like any good investment. SARU don’t have a good record in this regard. But there is some building needed as Meyer needs to accept that he has no World XV players except maybe Habana and the injured Bissy. There is plenty of potential but Meyer needs to develop this, if he can. Of course SARU aren’t helping, ignoring central contracts and possibly allowing a flood of imports into the Kings and hence a flood of exports to Europe, Japan etc. And SA doesn’t have the PI reservoir that Aus and NZ can draw on. Unless we can fast track a few Congolese into rugby!!
23 Oct 2012, 11:47 am
@Sheriff-105:
I see Sunni Bill Williams is going to fight Francois Botha in a months time in Brisbane.
Get your money on Botha now…………………………………………………..quick as you can…………………………………take any odds you can get………………………………………put as much as you can on Botha…………………………………………..borrow as much as you can, and put that on Botha as well…………………………………………sell your car if you have to………………………………….just get as much dosh on Botha as you can.
23 Oct 2012, 11:47 am
@David-109:
how now? this sounds interesting
23 Oct 2012, 11:50 am
The difference between Cruden and Goosen is that the former was blooded to be back up to Carter while the latter has been thrown in the deep end and now expected to start. He’s too young, not sure of his stats but her looks too small, too injury prone, and too inexperienced. He would be best to spend his down time taking more of those supplements he was caught with but considering what happened to Lance, he’d better be more careful this time. No doubt he has potential needs less pressure on him.
@cane-103: I might watch the replay of the final for about the 100th time to celebrate
23 Oct 2012, 11:50 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-107:
Hey Bakkies,
It’s Our Anniversary today.
1 year. Cool or what.
23 Oct 2012, 11:50 am
@husky-111:
Central contacting, unfortunately, is a long term mission unless the unions are prepared to allow SARU to take over existing contracts. As for the imports for the Kings, that’s also a short term (1 year) measure until they can negotiate with local players.
23 Oct 2012, 11:51 am
Morning earthlings. Did something go down on here late afternoon/evening? I’m reading all sorts of sh y te about ‘walkouts’ by Sharks fans? Dearestfuck I know for a FACT that I was in no way responsible for that, as I was getting on rather well with Lambie’s daddies.
Who p # ssed them off? Or tell me where to read about it.
Currie Cup final week and no guppies to enjoy it with? Woebefuckingme.
23 Oct 2012, 11:52 am
@Finfan-104: ag, where did you read this?
i suspect you are fibbing and fabricating because in the competition rules a player has to AT LEAST PLAY 4 games for the union to qualify for Playoffs, which is why AC and Rassie started Matt To’omua for years ago and benched Conrad Hoffman…
now tell us where you read this?
23 Oct 2012, 11:53 am
@cane-115:
ag cane, do you really want me to humour you for that underwhelming performance by a most underserving lot?
alright fine
well done on celebrating your win.
23 Oct 2012, 11:54 am
@David-109:
Do they have any pic’s of Our Nikita ?
i.e. is it worth me taking a look over there David?
23 Oct 2012, 11:55 am
@husky-111:
@David-116:
i do not agree with this kings foreign player business at all.
23 Oct 2012, 11:55 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-119:
Thanks Big Guy.
23 Oct 2012, 11:55 am
@wnbb-108:
Transformation will do the “copy and paste” thing at some stage, I’m sure.
The WP players apparently also want Jantjies to change his hairstyle before he’d be allowed to put on the WP jersey on Saturday.
23 Oct 2012, 11:57 am
@cane-122:
such a chop
23 Oct 2012, 11:57 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-113:
Did you miss the rather dramatic walkout by the Sharks guys last night?
My wifes hairdresser couldn’t have done it better.
23 Oct 2012, 11:58 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-117:
hehehe
i too would like to hear about this
23 Oct 2012, 11:58 am
3 more years as true world champions
meanwhole
in the land of 8th equal, a saffa team is about to win a trophy finally
SARU must be so proud.
23 Oct 2012, 11:58 am
@cane-112: He better sign his contract with the Roosters before he gets his jaw broken!
23 Oct 2012, 11:58 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-107:
Bulls supporter aren’t you?
So I guess Wynand Olivier has served you far better than Aaron Mauger or Dan Carter have for the Crusaders at inside center? Think out the box a bit and we may find common ground. I definitely think the ability to off load and fend is important, but not more than making unpredictable, unexpected decisions.
23 Oct 2012, 11:58 am
@Transformation-118: There was a ‘tweet’ on this doing the rounds this morning…….
(and proceeded to go into the expected metallic rage with allegations of ‘it’s unfair/it’s cheating/it’s fraud/it’s wrong’)
Quiet a few seem to have believed it
Would have been a massively sneaky move if it were somehow pulled off though. Imagine the wailing…..
23 Oct 2012, 11:58 am
@cane-120:
Nah.
23 Oct 2012, 11:59 am
@gonzo-114:
I did tape THAT Final gonzo.
But have never been able to bring myself to watch the thing.
23 Oct 2012, 12:01 pm
@poppa69-127: I missed the Bledisloe test this weekend.
Is NZ still on track for a world-record of consecutive wins?
23 Oct 2012, 12:01 pm
@David-125: Tell me where to read it. I was online until late yesterday afternoon, and I was getting along really well with S_L and Puma. I logged of when Dawn was bantering with them, and this morning they are gone.
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-126: I just want to know what thread I must read
Although I’m going to check on the “super sharks to win the CC” one, because that is where I last saw S_L and Puma chatting happily.
23 Oct 2012, 12:01 pm
@cane-112:
SBW will destroy Botha.
But why are you changing the topic?
Can it be that what I said resonated powerfully with you
23 Oct 2012, 12:02 pm
@David-125:
seee-r-eee-aaaaassssssss? this sounds snaaks, very snaaks
which thread?
i’ll start looking
23 Oct 2012, 12:02 pm
@Finfan-123:
23 Oct 2012, 12:03 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-130: oh, thanks lady
23 Oct 2012, 12:04 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-136: I found it Bakkies!!!!! Super Sharks to win Currie Cup thread. I JUST missed the action. Literally minutes after I had logged off. Life’s not fair.
23 Oct 2012, 12:04 pm
Willie.
nope but they are still unbeaten in over 370 days.
they’ll suffice for me
how longs it been since 8th equal lost? 30 days or is it less? it’s only 23 days isn’t it
when they conceded twice as many points as they scored eish.
23 Oct 2012, 12:04 pm
@poppa69-127:
You can be a cruel man sometimes Popps.
23 Oct 2012, 12:06 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-134:
It started with a comment by Nikita (301) on the Super Sharks will win thread.
23 Oct 2012, 12:07 pm
@fishdish-129:
hehe
look all i’m saying is i would rather frans over patrick as a 12.
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-139:
will have a squiz
23 Oct 2012, 12:08 pm
@Sheriff-135:
Ted is just doing his bit for The International Game.
He has to keep busy or Mrs Ted makes him do the ironing.
So he gets out of the house…………………………………………….like any man would.
23 Oct 2012, 12:08 pm
it’s actually only 16 days Caner
I was being kind by adding an extra week
still. I do hope they are able to beat Argentina IN Argentina some day.
23 Oct 2012, 12:10 pm
Ted will be assisting JK in super rugby next season. shame my blues aren’t going to have a decent squad.
23 Oct 2012, 12:10 pm
@cane-132: You’ve never rewatched it? You should, it’s a lot less stressful second time
It was an ugly game but on second viewing I was more impressed with how we performed.
I also rewatched the last 5 mins of this weekend’s game. Even though we “lost” it was an incredible sight. Confident, decisive, and determined like I’ve never seen the ABs. **** result but it seemed like a turning point for them mentally. In recent years we’d have frozen and not gone for the droppie and been left to wonder what could have been. Now we know at least
23 Oct 2012, 12:10 pm
@willievz-133:
Are you trying to piss us Kiwi’s off Willy.
23 Oct 2012, 12:10 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-130: However, Coetzee denied reports that he had requested SARU to prevent Lambie from playing flyhalve on Saturday because the national coach made it clear that he was a better fullback and that he should therefore only be used in this position – especially on Saturday.
23 Oct 2012, 12:12 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-139:
I did not even got a chance to say goodbye to my mate,Sl. 
23 Oct 2012, 12:13 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-139:
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-143:
This on RT last night.
Puma
October 22nd, 2012 at 19:15 SAST
45 @ Sharks_forever:
I don’t blog there either any longer.
From now on only will blog here. Trouble is I look in here first thing everyday and no one on line.
[Translate]
49Sharks_forever
October 22nd, 2012 at 19:18 SAST
@ Puma:
they don’t like us Sharks supporters anywhere
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50Puma
October 22nd, 2012 at 19:19 SAST
38 @ Sharks_forever:
That was out of order a person that works for a site, most defininetly can’t insult the whole of Durban that way. Actually that is really it. If all Sharks polute the place it is meaning the whole of Durban as we all support the Sharks. Mant hat was out of order really, there are so many Shark supporters blogging there she can’t bundle us altogether. Not on at all. I will take that from another blogger and just not take notice but never from a person that actually works for the site. No I am never going to blog there again.
23 Oct 2012, 12:14 pm
agreed. you should rewatch it Cane
just to see Rougeries South African impersonation. it’s a pearler any Saffa would be proud of.
23 Oct 2012, 12:14 pm
@gonzo-147: @poppa69-145:
It is marvelous to wallow in Our Own Glory.
Isn’t it.
23 Oct 2012, 12:14 pm
@David-142: Found it. This is Interweb Oscars stuff. Scripted gold, right here. Stormersboy seems to have angered the masses as well….
I tell you, Monty Python couldn’t pull this sh y te off
23 Oct 2012, 12:16 pm
@poppa69-152:
Rougeries, ………………..did you mean Gougeries.
23 Oct 2012, 12:19 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-154:
Apparently, I also pissed of SL with my tongue in cheek comment regarding the old Natal supporters. And they refer to WP supporters as a bunch of queens.
23 Oct 2012, 12:19 pm
whose wallowing.
more like bathing the glorious bask of world champion glory living up to the title.
first team to do so since the 87 side.
coincidence? nah. we have a level of excellence we strive for, never content to be gifted a rigged world cup like 2007.
23 Oct 2012, 12:26 pm
@poppa69-157: Sigh….Pops….so you have officially given in to the pressure and have annointed yourself one of the arrogant kiwis……when the boks clean the AB’s pipes in the years to come be ready to take your medicine without sympathy.
23 Oct 2012, 12:27 pm
Haha poppa….the ab might be winners but you sure are a loser……only loser gloat.
23 Oct 2012, 12:28 pm
@KingTJ-159:
Go ahead then TJ,
make my day,
……………………………………………..gloat.
23 Oct 2012, 12:30 pm
I wonder if HG has been inducted into RT?
Oh dear.
23 Oct 2012, 12:31 pm
@David-151:
crikey david.
always new you to be the limp wristed bleeding heart liberal type….
but to now sink to tittle-tattle girlie schoolyard stuff?
mindboggling.
23 Oct 2012, 12:32 pm
@KingTJ-159: It’s funny Kiwi players seem to be a humble, honourable bunch in general but it’s their supporters who come across as arrogant bad sports.
23 Oct 2012, 12:32 pm
Diary of an AB fan
day 365 is upon us. one year. met Wayne Smoyh when back in NZ. very briefly but it truly was amazing to be in the presence of a world and super rugby champion. I took great delight in his inference that we ” got the japies” whatever that means. he showed me photos of old Bill, the éclat shine still so prevalent in the photos.finished reading Ritchie’s biography too, his description of some saffa as a bull seems really apt.
life doesnt get much better. stll 1095 days as World champs to go
Paid a visit to Sir Bryce. he really is a likable fellow, but the signed and autographed copy of the email will look great on my wall.
until we speak again diary
viva le champion de mondes
23 Oct 2012, 12:33 pm
erm…also knew you
23 Oct 2012, 12:34 pm
@David-156: Sheez I saw that.
I guess the times they have called me ‘Cape scum and filth’ were words said in jest? Must be? 
Good thing I didn’t take all their banter and insults seriously, or else I might have staged a tragic walkout a few months back……
Where is HG?
@Skeppie-158: Glad you are still here. So not all Sharks ventured forth into the great interweb unknown.
23 Oct 2012, 12:34 pm
skeppe
you should have seen the arrogant saffa supporters after 2009. it was their lack of foresght that has given me 3 years of pure joy in throwing it back in their faces.
suck it up mate.
23 Oct 2012, 12:35 pm
@charo-162:
Far from limp wristed. I just found the whole affair rather amusing, although rather adolescent.
23 Oct 2012, 12:36 pm
@David-151: How far into the Super Sharks thread did this happen?
@poppa69-157: yawn….
23 Oct 2012, 12:37 pm
@poppa69-164: You left out “put on some replica AB togs and pretended that I actually ever player the game, then realised I was a whiney, arrogant chop with no idea of what it is to be a sportsman and changed back into my big boy pants”
23 Oct 2012, 12:38 pm
People on this site have such short memories.
In 2009, Ruan pienaard had a brilliant game at FH against the B&I Lions in the 1st test. Sent his back line away nicely and converted all his kicks. Everybody raved about him as the Bok FH for the future.
In the 2nd test, Pienaar had a great game in general play but his kicking for poles went to the dogs, hitting the upright twice and missed on other occasions. Morne Steyn was sent on and he saved the Boks with vital penalty kicks near the end.
People on here raved about Steyn and his “BMT.” Furthermore they were estatic that the Bokke now has “two world class FH” with Butchie still available also if the need arose. A mere three years later and none of the above “world class” FH’s are in contention for a FH spot afa the people on this site is concerned.
Now we have another three young, up and coming FH’s with the “potential” (some more than others) to become world beaters in the FH position. What are the odds that in 3 years time they will be viewed in the same light.
Oh yes, WP laaities going to moer the fat outoppies from Natal on Saturday.
GO PRROOOOOOOOOVVIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
23 Oct 2012, 12:38 pm
@Skeppie-163: Evens the fake SA ones.
23 Oct 2012, 12:38 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-166: No, I am here representing the beautiful last outpost….
23 Oct 2012, 12:38 pm
@poppa69-164: haha, you’re pretty funny when you’re not posting crime stats
Look at us back slapping each other on a .za website. I’d have been furious if a saffer did that in 2008! Will allow myself one day of gloating though
23 Oct 2012, 12:39 pm
@cane-160: Congrats on your team winning the World Cup !!
23 Oct 2012, 12:39 pm
actually Skeppie. that’s where you’re wrong. I’ve represented my country.
but hey. Shane none of you were here to chastise the arrogance of your supporters when the anomaly of 2009 occurred. the levels of arrogance I display pale into insignificance in comparison.
if they’re willing to dish it, they can have their serve back. with interest.
23 Oct 2012, 12:40 pm
@poppa69-167: I am sucking it up beleive me, it’s been a painful couple of years but I can act like a sportsman and give the kiwi’s their due, good on them. You on the other hand are worse than the saffas who gave you **** in 2009
23 Oct 2012, 12:40 pm
@Skeppie-163: Yip very sad actually……but what can you expect from keyboard warriors who cant really play the game only comment on it
23 Oct 2012, 12:42 pm
@nama1-171: Nams agree with you on the first point, we saffas are too quick to label someone promising “world class”. On the second point….come on……you know you beloved streeptruie are going to catch a pakslae this weekend…..dont you?
23 Oct 2012, 12:42 pm
@poppa69-176: Poppa, ons almal is groot hier, ek n man maak sy eie besluite…..al wat jy kan doen is verantwoordelik wees vir jou eie, en jy ongelukig val n myl kort.
23 Oct 2012, 12:43 pm
e@KingTJ-180: ek = Elke
23 Oct 2012, 12:44 pm
@poppa69-176: I have on more than one occassion taken saffa posters who are full of **** to task, if you have issues with them take it uop individually but being disrespectful to all south africans is not exactly displaying a sportsmans class is it? You say you represented your country….in what discipline?
23 Oct 2012, 12:44 pm
@poppa69-157: The wheels came off with that last sentence.
23 Oct 2012, 12:44 pm
@KingTJ-180:
Well that was a waste of time TJ.
Try Maori.
23 Oct 2012, 12:45 pm
@Sasuke-169: 297.Nikita said:
22 Oct 2012, 17:22 pm
Oh dear
301.stormersboy said:
22 Oct 2012, 17:31 pm
@Nikita-297: What can the matter be?
303.Nikita said:
22 Oct 2012, 17:35 pm
@stormersboy-301:
The Sharkies poluting the thread.
They promised to buy me a row of shark tickets.
305.stormersboy said:
22 Oct 2012, 17:37 pm
@Nikita-303: They’ve been all over the threads with their Lambie man-love the whole day.
I think there were some sticky keyboards at some point
307.Nikita said:
22 Oct 2012, 17:39 pm
@stormersboy-305:
It appears on my screen all day. It gets a bit much.
23 Oct 2012, 12:45 pm
in English please king. or are you another keyboard warrior hiding behind a language?
Skeppie.
you didn’t see the amount of tripe we copped. my SA rugby is k@k mantra is in fact a cheap ripoff of a Saffa. as is 8th equal.
it SA funny in 2009, but it isnt now ? strange
23 Oct 2012, 12:46 pm
in English please king. or are you another keyboard warrior hiding behind a language?
Skeppie.
you didn’t see the amount of tripe we copped. my SA rugby is k@k mantra is in fact a cheap ripoff of a Saffa. as is 8th equal.
it was funny in 2009, but it isnt now ? strange
23 Oct 2012, 12:46 pm
@poppa69-176: You can flip burgers internationally?
23 Oct 2012, 12:47 pm
@poppa69-164: Bakkies will slap you…….an interweb ****** slap is not to be scoffed at.
@Nikita-161: YOU!!!!! Why did you banish Lambie’s daddies? Interweb exorcisms?
23 Oct 2012, 12:47 pm
@KingTJ-175:
Thanks Bro.
it’s a race to see who can be first to 3.
23 Oct 2012, 12:47 pm
@cane-184: learn to use google and get the translation…..or dont you now how.
23 Oct 2012, 12:48 pm
@Transformation-185: lol thanks man!
I just canned myself for Stormersboy sticky keyboards comment
23 Oct 2012, 12:48 pm
let’s not mention every day for four years copping the “chokers” call
every single day for four years.
I have some way to go yet.
I too imagine that Saffa players aren’t like their supporters. I’d imagine they respect the ABs and vice versa.
but I have a long memory.
23 Oct 2012, 12:49 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-189:
They are reading as we type. How long do you think it will take before they return tail between the legs? Any wagers?
23 Oct 2012, 12:50 pm
@nama1-171:
Pienaar also had an outstanding EOYT 2008, shattering the myth that you need an out-and-out kicking flyhalf in those conditions.
It is far more important to be a good decision-maker up North than anything else.
And Pienaar has (had?) that.
23 Oct 2012, 12:50 pm
@poppa69-145: @cane-148: Poppa you might be kicked out of Oz soon
Sydney – Australian Rugby Union CEO John O’Neill has dismissed as “insulting and ill-informed” claims by All Blacks coach Steve Hansen that Australia is stealing New Zealand players.
Hansen made the assertion after New Zealand’s 18-18 draw with the Wallabies in a Bledisloe Cup Test on Saturday in which New Zealand-born center Mike Harris kicked five penalties for Australia.
The All Blacks coach says Australia should concentrate on developing its own talent, rather than trying to build depth by “pinching” New Zealand players.
O’Neill says New Zealand should put its own house in order before criticising Australia, adding “the comments from the All Blacks coach are insulting, ill-informed. I would not even want to guess how many players born in the South Pacific islands have worn the All Blacks jersey.”
eish….
no so rosy in the Anzacs
23 Oct 2012, 12:50 pm
@Sasuke-169:
It was building up most of the day but stayed quite amiable until comment 301 by Nikita caused a rather dramatic reaction.
23 Oct 2012, 12:51 pm
@Nikita-161: What do you do there now that Keo.Tv is not so regular?
23 Oct 2012, 12:51 pm
@Transformation-196: What a brilliant response.
I have newfound respect for Mr. O’Neill.
23 Oct 2012, 12:51 pm
@poppa69-187: I said every man is responsible for his own actions…..and you unfortunately fall short.
23 Oct 2012, 12:51 pm
@David-197:
23 Oct 2012, 12:52 pm
@Nikita-161:
Get those Sharkies back.
This site needs them.
23 Oct 2012, 12:52 pm
@Sasuke-198:
Who says I’m still there? Ask Puma.
23 Oct 2012, 12:53 pm
@cane-202:
Am I the Iron Lady? I didn’t do anything.
23 Oct 2012, 12:53 pm
@Nikita-194: When ‘HG’ makes an appearance, at least one of them will be back.
When the Sharks smack the snot out of my teenage front row in the CC final – I expect the rest will return.
23 Oct 2012, 12:53 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-143:
Frans without drop kicks and skip passes= 2nd best 12 in world rugby so I’m down with that.
23 Oct 2012, 12:54 pm
Trans
not all kiwis were happy with Hansens appointment. buth Hurri and I on here have voiced our concerns, mainly with his coaching, but I think he has been taking media lessons from PDV
23 Oct 2012, 12:55 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-166: you predicted tantrums this week, but i don’t think in your WILDEST dreams you imagined this one
23 Oct 2012, 12:55 pm
Here’s a nice, mild one for you Pops; late last week a policeman at a Pretoria Police station left his keys in his double-cab bakkie while he went to “spend a penny”. The fact that it was parked inside a police station presented no problem to a passing “pedestrian” who promptly helped himself.
The bakkie was rolled in the ensuing chase and the (unhurt) thief was arrested. But as usual, the taxpayers will bear the brunt of this senseless deed…
23 Oct 2012, 12:55 pm
thanks king
always nice to be in the presence of those with no faults. how do you do it?
judge not lest you be judged mate.
23 Oct 2012, 12:56 pm
@Skeppie-179:
No, my man. I don’t know that. I do know that we are going to do a Lions on you.
You had a stronger team last year playing against a weaker Lions team in the final and you came up short.
Prepare for a repeat and lots of snot en trane.
WP by 10… at least.
23 Oct 2012, 12:56 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-205:
Saturday then?
23 Oct 2012, 12:57 pm
@poppa69-207: I think every Kiwi cringed at that comment from Hansen….. because we all know that 2011 would not have been happened without them
23 Oct 2012, 12:57 pm
@willievz-195:
The NH conditions are exaggerated and not much different to NZ or winter at Newlands.
23 Oct 2012, 12:59 pm
@David-214: Amen to that.
23 Oct 2012, 12:59 pm
@Nikita-194: RT is BORING as s.hit, Sharky will be back, the thing is he is so spineless an amoeba has a stronger “backbone”…
23 Oct 2012, 13:00 pm
@David-197: A lot worse than what was said yesterday has been said before. Usually via the duct pipes of HG, Fern or the Devil’s spawnpredawn….
As I said yesterday, the Sharks team lost their inferiority complex a good few years back.
It is time some of their fans did the same. “Nobody loves us, everybody hates us, we’re gonna eat some worms”.
This is what happens though, when people turn online communication into some sort of reality.
1st to go is the sense of humour, 2nd to go is the ability to ever find said ‘sense of humour’ ever again.
23 Oct 2012, 13:00 pm
Sharkies come back.
Otherwise THEY win.
23 Oct 2012, 13:01 pm
@nama1-211: wishful thinking on behalf of a We Pee Supporter, but I am a bit nervous for my sharks… but I still think they Sharks will take it…. by 5 points just to keep it interesting
@poppa69-210: Just stop gloating then you could also be without faults…
23 Oct 2012, 13:02 pm
it’s an old debate King
Hansen is an idiot for the comments. in this professional age you only need 3 years residency. he’s as you guys say, a po.es for saying it.
23 Oct 2012, 13:03 pm
@Nikita-203: So you dont work for Keo anymore?
Puma was a top bloke.
23 Oct 2012, 13:04 pm
David
tend to agree. it’s probably why NZ does better than Aus or SA who don’t play in those conditions too often
23 Oct 2012, 13:04 pm
@nama1-211: You are damn right, if those soft mountain folk beat my beloved sharks at the shark tank it will be snot en trane for a month! Luckily that won’t happen….unless Gio decides to put his jet shoes back on.
23 Oct 2012, 13:04 pm
@poppa69-207: i remember when Shag was appointed, i said i was eager to see his handling of the press…when the team was winning he could handle himself but one draw and he immediately flies off the handle and roasts Aus
i recall his 2009 “pressure? this is not pressure, i was a policeman and pressure is walking into someone’s house and telling them their son is no more, that’s pressure”
go Shag
23 Oct 2012, 13:04 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-217: I think yesterday was a bit of a storm in a teacup (coming from a sharks supporter)….but Nikita should get a slap on the wrist for being unprofessional or a PK
23 Oct 2012, 13:05 pm
@Nikita-212: Yeah I think that’s a safe bet
In fact, if you folk post another article on Lambie (one in which you announce he has won the IRB player of the year award, after the input of 500 international journalists and kenners was collected – ((we’ll just ask the Kiwis on the site to play along with our deception)) – the return might be sooner.
(I’m sure someone could rig a few fake articles and Tweets to back you up)
23 Oct 2012, 13:05 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-217: HAHAHA Not all Sharks supporters…not all….
23 Oct 2012, 13:06 pm
@Transformation-196: Storm in a teacup. When I saw the headline, I thought Hansen was a bit of a d-ck considering Harris qualified through his grannie and couldn’t even break into the Blues so he went offshore. Nothing wrong with that. But it was in response to a direct question – is there a problem with our talent identification program and his answer was no. He then says the aussies should develop their own talent if they want five super franchises and i’m inclined to agree with him. The ARU probably should listen.
The PI poaching line always makes nice headlines though
23 Oct 2012, 13:06 pm
@Sasuke-221:
“Puma was a top bloke”.
Correction:
Puma IS a top bloke.
23 Oct 2012, 13:06 pm
@Sasuke-221:
He still is a top bloke. I have the greatest respect for him.
@KingTJ-225:
Would you like to do the slapping?
23 Oct 2012, 13:06 pm
I know Tyrone is with us..Come back T-man,all is forgiven. I miss being called poodlefekker.
23 Oct 2012, 13:06 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-226: Cool! Are we back to discussing how awesome Patty is?
23 Oct 2012, 13:07 pm
@Transformation-216: RT boring? No, the Sharks-bashing here is boring. In fact, as boring, dumb and predictable as Heynecke’s gameplan. Sob…
23 Oct 2012, 13:07 pm
Trans
wait until he actually loses a test.
23 Oct 2012, 13:08 pm
@KingTJ-225:
Please tell what I did wrong? Does the truth really hurt?
23 Oct 2012, 13:08 pm
I suspect that Finfan might be the next to go.
23 Oct 2012, 13:10 pm
@Nikita-161: They won’t put up with his **** there.
Actually, I blog there a bit too and the moderators are on the ball, much stricter than there. To be honest I’d blog there more but it isn’t that busy.
23 Oct 2012, 13:10 pm
@Nikita-230: Haha!! didn’t know you were into that…. otherwise considered yourself slapped
23 Oct 2012, 13:13 pm
@poppa69-234: Agreed it’s only when some kiwi’s lose that their real colours come out….
23 Oct 2012, 13:14 pm
@Nikita-235: Do you no longer work at HSM?
23 Oct 2012, 13:15 pm
@Transformation-208: Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeez. I predicted a meltdown or 2 come Thursday or Friday.
A biblical exodus on Monday, was never in my script.
23 Oct 2012, 13:15 pm
@Skeppie-232:
23 Oct 2012, 13:15 pm
@stormersboy-237:
This site allows freedom of speech. It cannot force anyone to stay or for that matter ask them to leave. When it is too hot in the kitchen, then take a break – breath and come back later. Making a rash decision to leave, may be rued later. Someone called me an itch last night. Someone young lady made allegations, but did I respond immaturely? No, it is a blog for Heavens Game.
23 Oct 2012, 13:17 pm
@Finfan-233: which team does not get bashed here Finny?
HTFU.
23 Oct 2012, 13:17 pm
This is funny. Sharks have been takin a beating for years here its not new. But Nikita just played it wrong. Now we are stuck with a long que of huggers singing Province praises. Need a bit of spice. Oh and that poor mans version of Tackler that goes on and on about crime and the 3rd world SA is boring.
Natal will wipe the floor with Province.
23 Oct 2012, 13:17 pm
@stormersboy-240:
Define the term working? Contracting is a different kettle of fish, similar to a shark, I would say.
23 Oct 2012, 13:18 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-242: Hey it seems I am the only Guppy left here…I need back-up! Or at least a good 500 comment session on how good Lambie is!
23 Oct 2012, 13:19 pm
@skunk-245:
So I’m to blame. Okey.
23 Oct 2012, 13:19 pm
@David-214: @willievz-215: Northern hemi ‘conditions’ indeed. The only time one ever hears of them is when a Bok coach (ANY Bok coach), uses these ‘conditions’ to back up certain team selections, and the same old same old kak outdated gameplans.
23 Oct 2012, 13:19 pm
@poppa69-222:
It certainly enhances your handling skills.
23 Oct 2012, 13:20 pm
@Skeppie-247:
Only two ladies left for Heavens Game.
23 Oct 2012, 13:20 pm
@Transformation-244: The Kings Transie! Everyone has to say nice things about the Kings otherwise they get banished from the cool table and have to eat with the school bugle player next to the rubbish bins.
23 Oct 2012, 13:20 pm
@Transformation-244:
The Kings supporters haven’t really been bashed.
That officially starts in February 2013.
23 Oct 2012, 13:21 pm
@Nikita-246: Contracting = Working without the benefits
@Skeppie-247: Nah Skeppie, when one falls another stands up, we sharks never hunt alone
23 Oct 2012, 13:21 pm
@Nikita-251: Are you mistaking me for a woman?
23 Oct 2012, 13:23 pm
@KingTJ-254: Cool, so we are an army of two against the horde from the mountain…..good thing we will have a lot to crow about come Saturday night! Although I must try to remember to be a good winner not like “Pops the arrogant”
23 Oct 2012, 13:23 pm
Sorry guys (and ladies). What exodus?
23 Oct 2012, 13:23 pm
@Transformation-244: Playing the ‘victim’ is best left to those who can pull it off with some success…..
Thing is, if someone pipes up with a “WP are *** fat sperm whales who fudgepack in the scrums” (which we do hear regularly) – how on earth can I take it personally and sob about it? If I do take offence….it’s because I am a weak and spineless git, and NOT because I have any LEGIT reason to feel offended.
If anyone is ragged to sh y te on this blog, and most others, it is the WP – and deservedly so at times, as we are the only team who has honestly won fuckall of note in years.
Sticks and stones….sticks and stones…..
23 Oct 2012, 13:24 pm
@David-151:
“they don’t like us Sharks supporters anywhere”
“[Translate]”
priceless
23 Oct 2012, 13:25 pm
@Skeppie-255: seeing how you Sharkievarkies go on here you wonder sometimes.
23 Oct 2012, 13:25 pm
@Skeppie-256: Haha!! I just had to change the direction of his boasting( and it worked). We will just have to cut the horde off at the sea, and have them all drown in our warm waters,
23 Oct 2012, 13:25 pm
@Skeppie-256: Well stick around
You will be joyous come Saturday, and I’m certain your fwendoos will return. No ways HG is going to stay away.
23 Oct 2012, 13:26 pm
@Skeppie-256: Sharks looking like the only SA team that belong in this decade
23 Oct 2012, 13:27 pm
I have just finished reading the threads.
Bizarre.
So now we are told that every single person in Durban supports the Sharks? I find that hard to believe…
23 Oct 2012, 13:27 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-154:
how very kiwi’esque of these sharkie supporters
and the winner is… *drum roll*….
23 Oct 2012, 13:27 pm
@Skeppie-256:
C’mon, you know how it works. If you lose you congratulate the winner first, then post all the reasons why you were robbed. If you win, you say “Hard luck, well played” and then go away sniggering. :lol”
23 Oct 2012, 13:28 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-259: Now if that isn’t a Jannie Jammerbal quote right there, I don’t know
23 Oct 2012, 13:28 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-258: You must have such a big C.o.ck as a sperm whale that is probably why you can take it. So stop trying to make it a pissing contest of who can take it and who cant;)
23 Oct 2012, 13:28 pm
@Nikita-246: Ok got it.
Makes sense, gives them plausible deniability.
I think everyone on here understands the way things work here, I have on occasion removed myself for a time, cooled off so to speak.
I found earlier this season that the conflict (with Sharks fans) was getting so personal that it started to effect the way I looked at the players, which isn’t fair, so I stopped.
No one’s holding a gun to my head either way, life goes on yadda yadda….
23 Oct 2012, 13:28 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-259:
Yeah, I was tempted to add some translations to the cut and paste.
23 Oct 2012, 13:29 pm
Skeppie
yep. then the monotony of calling the winners filthy cheating scum, or simply cheats becomes the chorus
oh wait, thats Saffa supporters.
23 Oct 2012, 13:29 pm
@cane-229: @Nikita-230: Puma is dead to this site.
23 Oct 2012, 13:30 pm
@Transformation-244: The Valke.
23 Oct 2012, 13:30 pm
@wnbb-260: That’s mean…and sexist…shame on you
23 Oct 2012, 13:30 pm
@KingTJ-268: Temper….temper fella.
23 Oct 2012, 13:30 pm
@stormersboy-269:
You have to have a laugh, don’t you.
I mean, if I had to take personally some of the stuff that, for example, Heavens Game dishes out to Province supporters, I’d have been on antidepressants.
Bit bloody surreal to be affected by posts on a blog!
That being said, I’m always one for being courteous, I hope my past has reflected that.
23 Oct 2012, 13:31 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-262:
Technically, HG never walked and took the RT oath, so he’ll be back. Besides, where would he be without some Stormers to insult?
23 Oct 2012, 13:32 pm
@stormersboy-269: its been tough for wp supporters against sharks supporters this season.
23 Oct 2012, 13:32 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-262: HG isn’t welcome on any of the other blogs, not in his current form so he has no option. He would personally be the one who would be a welcome loss. You will notice that when he isn’t on the threads the rest are relatively tame, good natured jibes aside.
He’s a troll, plain and simple. He posts outlandish statements to get a reaction, why no one knows. He’s not the only one mind you.
23 Oct 2012, 13:32 pm
@David-277:
Heavens Game has been on record often that he refuses to to go to that site – something about refusing to divulge his identity and provide a blood sample and go to wife-swopping sessions…that’s where the whole “Mormon ^ 5″ thing came from…
23 Oct 2012, 13:33 pm
@David-277:
Indeed. We WP supporters give Heavens Game’s existence meaning.
WE…
COMPLETE HIM.
23 Oct 2012, 13:33 pm
@stormersboy-269:
Complaints are received regularly. Freedom of speech is one of our constitutional rights – right? This is a blog and most hide behind their keyboards.
23 Oct 2012, 13:33 pm
@Skeppie-252: says who? roast them i say!
23 Oct 2012, 13:34 pm
David
that comes from touch rugby not only handlin skills but learning to run into the gap, or the appropriate shoulder rather than head on.
it’s ingrained at a young age.
23 Oct 2012, 13:34 pm
@WP-Forever-280:
Thanks, I wondered about that.
23 Oct 2012, 13:34 pm
@David-266: Too true, not to mention outright cheating by the other team through bribing the ref, suzie’s niece serving tainted food at the Beverly Hills or the startling revelation that Jaco Peyper had dinner with Fleckie the night before and is now dating Fleckies, cousins, roomates 2nd best friend. I have all the excuses ready…should we lose…..which we won’t…..I hope!
23 Oct 2012, 13:34 pm
@Sasuke-278: True. Opening game aside, it’s not been pretty.
23 Oct 2012, 13:34 pm
@David-266:
Before I forget, well done on the Canaries win on Saturday against my team.
Hopefully the win will set the tone for the rest of the season.
23 Oct 2012, 13:35 pm
Bottom Line is, SHAAKS is going to have some We Pee for dinner come Saterday. Looking forward to it…..Braai beforehand, drinks during the game and massive party afterwards…..Dont stop at 1stop, because you never leave..
23 Oct 2012, 13:35 pm
@poppa69-284:
I fully agree.
I have often stated that, in my opinion, five-down touch rugby is a fantastic coaching tool for rugby union.
South African mentality is to coach our youngsters to try to run OVER and THROUGH opposing players. We get coached to look for the impact…it would be so much more efficient if we coached our kids to try to run AROUND opposing players.
But it is hard to undo decades and decades of indoctrination…
23 Oct 2012, 13:36 pm
@poppa69-284:
Yep, and your weight groups also make sense.
23 Oct 2012, 13:37 pm
@Skeppie-286:
I stayed at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Umhlanga a few weeks ago.
Quite a nice hotel, but the service wasn’t fantastic. But a beautiful setting and nice rooms.
23 Oct 2012, 13:37 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-258: would you take offence if gareth duncan said WP/Stormers are “poluting (sic) the site” with your siya kolisi “man-love”?
23 Oct 2012, 13:38 pm
@fishdish-206:
yip
am hoping he puts in good showings from next season, in the position.
23 Oct 2012, 13:38 pm
king
are you a sharks fan? I
23 Oct 2012, 13:38 pm
@WP-Forever-290: Buuuuut if the Boks started playing differently surely the up and coming players (kids) would follow suit.
23 Oct 2012, 13:38 pm
Speaking of the Internet and anonymity, has anyone else seen that story about the “worst troll of all time” on Reddit, going by the name “ViolentAcrez”, was unmasked?
He lost his job.
23 Oct 2012, 13:39 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-262: i’m interested to see how HG will spin this “exodus”
something about north & south “traditional powers” i presume…
23 Oct 2012, 13:39 pm
@KingTJ-289:
I reckon the Sharks will win by at least 10 points on Saturday.
23 Oct 2012, 13:40 pm
@poppa69-295: Yes all the way!!
23 Oct 2012, 13:40 pm
@WP-Forever-292:
Nobody stays there anymore (except the boks)
The Oyster Box is where it’s at.
23 Oct 2012, 13:40 pm
@Jeraldjay-288:
Thanks, I hope so. We seem to have lost some cohesion since Lambert left. The problem is that it’s becoming more and more difficult for clubs coming from the Championship to compete against the wealthier Premier sides. Much like the CC in that respect.
23 Oct 2012, 13:41 pm
David.
yep. think it also alleviates the mums somewhat too. they know their kids aren’t going to get flattened by some huge kid twice their size.
23 Oct 2012, 13:41 pm
@Jeraldjay-288: Norwich vs Arsenal. Didnt watch the game but i was so disappointed.
23 Oct 2012, 13:41 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-267:
to his eternal shame
@David-270:
baie baie snaaks
23 Oct 2012, 13:41 pm
@WP-Forever-297: Ja i saw that. Actually googled the guy. He posts mostly naked pics from what I could see.
Just some guy with an inferiority complex.
23 Oct 2012, 13:42 pm
Hg will never defect to the dark side.He loves having a go at everything Cape related.Actually,I think ,he loves the Cape and basically all is just jest.
23 Oct 2012, 13:42 pm
@WP-Forever-297:
Let that be a lesson to extratesticular.
23 Oct 2012, 13:42 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-259: My pa se blou span het sy gat gesien
Hy brand sy trui met dieselien en
Hy skree op my ma en hy skree op my broer
Die blou bul span het weer pak gekry!!!
Oh, stuur ons maar net ‘n nommer 10
Want Morne Steyn het ook sy gat gesien
En Seen my ma en seen my pa
En bid vir die kinders met ‘n blou bul pa!
[Translate]
23 Oct 2012, 13:42 pm
@Transformation-293: Is this a gap to start talking about King Lambie again?
23 Oct 2012, 13:42 pm
@WP-Forever-299: I said 5, just to keep the game interesting…. Lead with 15 until 10 min to go, then WP scores a try to keep it close for the last 5 min………..Think of the party afterwards? it will be massive !! and rugby will be the winner!!
23 Oct 2012, 13:43 pm
@gunther-301:
Right next door? I was told they have fantastic food.
We got a great corporate discount for the Beverly Hills, we were there for the shopping centre conference.
My highlight, though, was popping in to Cottonfields late at night and seeing a 70-year-old sing karaoke.
There was lots of mutton dressed as lamb…
23 Oct 2012, 13:43 pm
@David-277: @stormersboy-279: Good news that
@Transformation-293: I would walk I tell you…..(to the fridge and back) And we Saffa’s call the Kiwis ‘precious’. Honestly, our frailty in interweb pissing contests is tragic actually.
23 Oct 2012, 13:43 pm
king
your post that the shorks will win on sat. careful, you’re approaching the “poppa the arrogant” status with words like that
23 Oct 2012, 13:44 pm
@WP-Forever-292:
I stayed there when it first opened. Used to play snooker against Sol and his Indian head waiter for a glass of Remy Martin a game. I think the head waiter ended up virtually owning all of the hotels stock.
23 Oct 2012, 13:44 pm
@WP-Forever-280: Hiyas Bro ^5
23 Oct 2012, 13:46 pm
@poppa69-314: LOL, I just had to change your direction….. I was about to leave the site. Gloating only happens after victory, before hand it is called hoping
23 Oct 2012, 13:46 pm
@WP-Forever-312:
shopping centre conference!
23 Oct 2012, 13:47 pm
@poppa69-314: No no no he will need to do a lot more than that to qualify for the title. To acheive that aclaim he will need to slate someone else’s country non stop, insult its people, show no respect for that country, be arrogant, a bad sport and a boastful bore.
23 Oct 2012, 13:48 pm
@David-302:
Yes it always has been difficult for teams to compete coming straight from the Championship to the big league.
Before the wealth was spread between the top 3 teams but now things have changed overnight with Man City, West Brom, and Newcastle doing well.
23 Oct 2012, 13:48 pm
@gunther-318:
Yes, the 16th Annual South African Shopping Centre Council conference.
23 Oct 2012, 13:48 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-313: please, don’t say “us saffas”, i’ve take my fair share of kak on this blog and others too…you would’ve been disgusted when most of the so-called “Bulls” bloggers that left to form RT changed their nics to include a “JAN” and insulted Rossoneri.
Grant10′s son and family weren’t spared either…now for someone to cry because Nikita said they’re “poluting the site” is just laughable
23 Oct 2012, 13:50 pm
@Jeraldjay-320:
I think that West Brom and Newcastle will start slipping to mid/lower table after Xmas. That’s when lack of depth starts to take its toll.
23 Oct 2012, 13:51 pm
Skeppie
yep Bakkies really needs to change his posting style doesn’t he ? he does that daily to us kiwis, but is somehow exempt of criticism
strange huh?
mind you, with nics like “sniveling little kiw pricks”, “fu.ck new Zealand ” etc one does find it hard not to respond.
oh, you meant me huh?
23 Oct 2012, 13:51 pm
@WP-Forever-312: That is what you get for hanging around in cottonfields late at night
23 Oct 2012, 13:52 pm
@Transformation-322:
Jeepers, bro, the stuff that was said at that time was just plain nasty.
Horrible times.
23 Oct 2012, 13:52 pm
@Transformation-322:
I couldn’t exactly say ‘the Sharks saffas’ – as that would have earned me an interweb beatdown from KingTJ 
So I went for the safety in numbers option, and said “WE Saffas”.
In the cases you mention, the line was well and truly crossed. Polluting a site is not an insult that can be categorised with those you mention
Pwecious indeed.
23 Oct 2012, 13:52 pm
@Skeppie-310: Lambie is klas and should start on the eoyt
23 Oct 2012, 13:53 pm
@Transformation-298: Just dig up any of his old posts. He’s like skoppie – same old, same old.
23 Oct 2012, 13:54 pm
@David-323: I hope that conincides with the Gunners finding form. We always struggle during that period.
23 Oct 2012, 13:55 pm
@WP-Forever-326:
Yep, and then Rudi started RT claiming that he didn’t want that sort of language there.
23 Oct 2012, 13:56 pm
@poppa69-324: Yes I do, you are no better than Bakkies. You would never find me making comments like that. I may be unhappy with Kiwi bloggers on this site at times and may make some comments about specific things relating to the AB’s but I will always be respectful of NZ, the AB’s and the historical competition between our countries.
23 Oct 2012, 13:56 pm
Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer’s hopes of touring with a fit and strong team to Ireland, Scotland and England next month took another blow on Tuesday when Bok loose forward Jacques Potgieter was ruled out for six to eight weeks with a groin injury.
yes no potgieter for eoyt
23 Oct 2012, 13:57 pm
@Sasuke-330:
I reckon it’s because mid winter conditions don’t suit your passing game and past defensive frailties.
23 Oct 2012, 13:57 pm
@Sasuke-328: Yes!!!! More Lambie talk…love it!
23 Oct 2012, 13:58 pm
@Transformation-309:
is dit van dieselfde RT webtuiste af waarop puma en sharkslover so gefokken huil het oor nikita? hulle’s rerig ‘pollution’ daai ****** sharkies..
23 Oct 2012, 13:58 pm
@David-323:
Yes, between Xmas and new year, thats when the business end starts.
Hopefully Arsenal can compete at the top. We haven’t won a trophy since 2005. Wenger I feel should take a position on the board and give someone else an opportunity.
23 Oct 2012, 13:59 pm
@Skeppie-335: Just cover your keyboard first. Those are a bugger to clean
23 Oct 2012, 14:00 pm
@Sasuke-333:
It should have said “improved” instead of “took another blow”.
23 Oct 2012, 14:01 pm
well Skeppie.
sometimes it’s the only way. I’ve copped plenty of over the top stuff here, so I return it, with interest.
23 Oct 2012, 14:01 pm
@stormersboy-338: Dont stress, I have mastered tantra….it’s all internalised.
23 Oct 2012, 14:01 pm
@Sasuke-330:
This year is our year……
Fark we support kak teams.
23 Oct 2012, 14:01 pm
@Sasuke-333: Isn’t that a blessing?
23 Oct 2012, 14:01 pm
@Skeppie-332:
fyi
i’m right here
23 Oct 2012, 14:02 pm
@Skeppie-341: Ok I take that back, I am not cool enough to understand tantra….dammit!
23 Oct 2012, 14:02 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-344: I know Bakkies I can read…..sharkies bashing as usual
23 Oct 2012, 14:02 pm
@stormersboy-338: lol canned myself for your keyboard comment on the super sharks thread!
23 Oct 2012, 14:03 pm
@WP-Forever-321:
good times.
23 Oct 2012, 14:03 pm
@David-339: @KingTJ-343: copied from supersport my comment is below
23 Oct 2012, 14:04 pm
@stormersboy-338: Maybe the citing commision can do all us spectators a favour and band Morne for 2 games, then hopefully Heinek is forced to change his ways.
23 Oct 2012, 14:04 pm
@Skeppie-335:
patrick lambie’s ceiling is super rugby, boet.
he will never be the no.1 springbok fh.
23 Oct 2012, 14:04 pm
@gunther-348:
Everyone just goes for the free booze and food…oh, and of course the fancy dress party.
This year was “Wild West”…
23 Oct 2012, 14:05 pm
By the way
I like the rugby balls as bullets in the article.
Good work guys (and gal) !!
23 Oct 2012, 14:05 pm
@Jeraldjay-337: @Jeraldjay-342:
in Wenger we trust!
Excited about the return of Sir Jack to the midfield. Hopefully he can provide some steel to our midfield.
23 Oct 2012, 14:05 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-351:
Jislaaik, nou gaan die Sharks kla dat die Bulle OOK nou teen hulle is.
En ons dog die ouens het ‘n laer-mentaliteit in Pretoria!
23 Oct 2012, 14:05 pm
@Sasuke-347: Ja but that’s how it seemed to me.
23 Oct 2012, 14:07 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-351: HAHAHA Throw that bait out there Bakkies. Even you cannot make that anything but a laughable argument.
23 Oct 2012, 14:07 pm
@Jeraldjay-337:
I don’t think it’s Wengers coaching that’s at fault, but his and the boards insistence on remaining solvent and not throwing money at new players. From what I understand, top players left because they realised that Arsenal would never spend the money needed to acquire the players needed to compete on equal terms with the other top sides.
Possibly, when the new FA solvency rules start biting he’ll be proven correct.
23 Oct 2012, 14:07 pm
@Skeppie-346:
come now skeppie, sharkies are every god kenners fancied team and should walk this one by rights. only sharkie i might have bashed is pat.
its not that i dont think he’s good (because he is) it’s because i think there’s better.
23 Oct 2012, 14:08 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-351: If that is the case, then Steyn’s level is Varsity Cup…He was only good in the BI Tour, but that was about it.
23 Oct 2012, 14:08 pm
Anyone know of a good coffe shop at Canal Walk?
23 Oct 2012, 14:08 pm
@WP-Forever-355: Nee dis mos net julle inferiority complex. Mense in Pretoria het niks fout met hulle breine nie.
23 Oct 2012, 14:08 pm
@WP-Forever-352:
Somerset West?
23 Oct 2012, 14:09 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-359: Ok consider this a nibble……who would you play ahead of him?
23 Oct 2012, 14:09 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-359: At the moment, not injured? Name them?
23 Oct 2012, 14:10 pm
@Sasuke-333: Would it be nasty of me to give an air punch right about now?
23 Oct 2012, 14:10 pm
@Nikita-361:
Apparently they serve great coffee at the Cattle Baron there, just ask stormersboy.
23 Oct 2012, 14:11 pm
@WP-Forever-355:
ek skiet maar net reguit wp-vir ewig, dis al. jy sal my nooit van die kant af vind kom soos n kiwi krap nie
23 Oct 2012, 14:11 pm
@David-363:
Well, if you look at the property market there at the moment, it does, indeed, resemble a desolate wasteland…picture tumbleweeds…
23 Oct 2012, 14:12 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-351: Bakkies – begone you heathen. I would start Jantjies or Lambie with a dodgy wrist, in a wheelchair, and suffering with bad gastro before starting Morne on the EOYT.
23 Oct 2012, 14:12 pm
@WP-Forever-352:
did you go as Lilli von Shtupp?
23 Oct 2012, 14:13 pm
@Sasuke-354:
Wilshere is like Goosen. They are young and have the potential to be legends but can breakdown at any moment.
Last season we survived the loss of Cesc, Chichy and Nasri and survived. This season we lost RVP and we’ll survive to play in Europe. But is that good enough.
23 Oct 2012, 14:15 pm
@WP-Forever-369:
Used to go to some great parties there, before it became a Gauteng retirement village.
23 Oct 2012, 14:16 pm
@Skeppie-357:
@KingTJ-360:
morne steyn is horse kaka at the moment.
no arguments here.
i thought he would play his way back into form but he’s been uber kak. and to think he cost us three (or was it four) games with the boks this year…
@Skeppie-364:
goosen
morne
jantjes
lambie
fouche
pollard
in that order i would pick them with regards eoyt.
23 Oct 2012, 14:16 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-370: Please tell me he wasn’t going to say Steyn? Jantjies would be a fair argument….but Steyn…..
23 Oct 2012, 14:16 pm
@Nikita-361:
@WP-Forever-367: LOL that used to be Sharks_Lovers’s place. Not anymore.
I would go to Vida e on the top level. best coffee in the place.
23 Oct 2012, 14:18 pm
@stormersboy-376:
he sold?
23 Oct 2012, 14:18 pm
@gunther-371:
The Teutonic Titwillow? No, sadly not…
23 Oct 2012, 14:18 pm
@Nikita-361:
23 Oct 2012, 14:19 pm
@KingTJ-365:
there you have it #374
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-370:
honestly, i think meyer will pick morne and elton at 10 and lambie as a fh come utility.
but i have been wrong before.
23 Oct 2012, 14:19 pm
@Skeppie-375: You know he was going to say Steyn
23 Oct 2012, 14:19 pm
@Jeraldjay-372: Yes true about Wilshere. It is not good enough for our high standards but it is better than most clubs. We will break our duck this season.
23 Oct 2012, 14:19 pm
@stormersboy-376:
23 Oct 2012, 14:20 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-381: I was wrong! Bakkies says he was kak and is wayyyyyyyy out of form.
Sorry Bakkies.
23 Oct 2012, 14:21 pm
@David-358: Yes true that is our dilemma now. In the end Arsenal will have the standard business model for running a club.
23 Oct 2012, 14:22 pm
@Sasuke-382:
Most consistently successful club in the history of English football. Have never been relegated to a lower division,
23 Oct 2012, 14:24 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-374: Bakkies, that is a kak choice, Goosen is injured, Morne is kak ( by your own words). Jantjies should still have the inside lane if Meyer was consistent . ( but dont personally rate him) . We will see after this weekend >>>It’s Lambies for the taking I reckon.
23 Oct 2012, 14:24 pm
Wow, it’s so light-hearted on here today.
I haven’t read the word “shack” once!
23 Oct 2012, 14:24 pm
Anonymous, please post your email online. I’m sure Anonymous hasn’t been taken yet. Go ahead I dare you. It is good reading. Share it with the rest. It made me feel really good.
23 Oct 2012, 14:26 pm
@Nikita-389:
You’ve got mail?
23 Oct 2012, 14:26 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-366: Nope go ahead!
@Jeraldjay-386: We make the Champions league every season, Always finish in the top 3 and we make a profit. Impressive.
In defence of Wenger he has stopped buying so much youngsters and rather bought established players such as Arteta, Podolski, Cazorla, Giroud. The team is yet to gel but they are close.
23 Oct 2012, 14:27 pm
Did Dawn join the exodus?
23 Oct 2012, 14:27 pm
@Nikita-389:
It wasn’t me.
Love
Shaggy.
23 Oct 2012, 14:28 pm
@WP-Forever-390:
A few, but this one wins hands down.
23 Oct 2012, 14:28 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-380:
That’s my feeling as well.
23 Oct 2012, 14:29 pm
@gunther-393:
Hmmm
23 Oct 2012, 14:29 pm
@WP-Forever-392:
No, she just doesn’t have anyone left to complain about.
23 Oct 2012, 14:33 pm
@Nikita-394: Please post it. If it’s from Predawn trying to have poor old Fitzella banned again, it might be worth a read. I did see him asking bloggers to ‘mail the moderators’ re: this poor old Skop fella.
23 Oct 2012, 14:45 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-380:
sorry, meant:
fh come utility = fb come utility
23 Oct 2012, 14:46 pm
@Nikita-383: emails?
You getting spammed? Nice.
23 Oct 2012, 14:47 pm
@Nikita-394: Post it. If it’s anonymous then it isn’t privileged.
23 Oct 2012, 14:49 pm
@KingTJ-387:
yes i know goosen’s injured.
the rest is my view on the pecking order as meyer sees it.
@David-395:
more or less except i meant lambie as fb come utility.
23 Oct 2012, 14:52 pm
Cape Town – Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl has defended ticket prices for the 2012 Absa Currie Cup final at Kings Park on Saturday (kick-off 17:00), saying that a semi-final did not carry the same stature as a final, which saw the “crème de la crème” of both teams, featuring all their Springboks, clashing to determine the “top provincial team of the year”.
According to the Mercury newspaper, at R350 a ticket for the Currie Cup final against Western Province, numerous Sharks fans have complained the tickets are too expensive.
A ticket for last weekend’s semi-final against the Blue Bulls cost R150.
Nevertheless, Van Zyl said he sympathised with fans who, because of the current economic conditions, could not afford tickets, and had tried to assist by keeping prices the same as they were in 2010 when the final was last played in Durban.
Van Zyl said he believed that the match would be sold out.
On Monday, 13 136 tickets went on sale at 08:30 – 8 053 at the stadium and 5 083 at Computicket. By the afternoon, 2 093 had been sold, while a number of fans on the Sharks’ Facebook page expressed their unhappiness at the prices.
23 Oct 2012, 14:56 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-402:
Yeah, that way HM has the option of Lambie covering 10, without actually backing down on his comments.
23 Oct 2012, 14:58 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-402: In that case, I would put Morne at the top regardless of form….I think he would even bring back Naas if he could.
23 Oct 2012, 15:03 pm
@WP-Forever-392:
Dawn is the shark master baiter.
The only exodus she’s aware of belongs to Robert Nesta.
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-398:
Really?
That’s not cricket my babes.
Every time fuckadilly is banned a puppy dies.
23 Oct 2012, 15:08 pm
@wnbb-403: Its because the Bulls are super waste, thats why the turnout was bad last week. They have to pay to see the conference winners in action!
23 Oct 2012, 15:35 pm
@David-404:
yip
win-win
@KingTJ-405:
i’m just trying to think where meyer’s at. save myself the whatf’s…
23 Oct 2012, 15:42 pm
@Sasuke-407:
Jajajajaja.
This year is your year.
Or maybe next year.
23 Oct 2012, 16:09 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-384: Me too…..but to have Lambie at 3/4 choice shows how limited Bakkies’ rugby knowledge is.
23 Oct 2012, 16:10 pm
@wnbb-403: Thing is people will pay top dollar to see the sharks play the way they do……paying that kind of money to watch “kick and hope” rugby played from deeeeeep in the pocket isn’t a product people will pay to see.
23 Oct 2012, 16:21 pm
HELLO ALL.GO SHARKS.HAD TO SAY IT.NOW BACK TO SELF IMPOSED EXILE.((NOT ANOTHER SITE) HOPE FOR A GREAT GAME.
23 Oct 2012, 18:31 pm
@Skeppie-411: fair point skeppie.WP should be honoured then,I guess?
23 Oct 2012, 19:26 pm
Oh FFS stop whining for two sharks bloggers to come back here.
Leave them where they are.
23 Oct 2012, 19:41 pm
One reason to buy the mag
Cory’s in it
24 Oct 2012, 07:28 am
@Dawn-415:
You sure are easily pleased
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