Coetzee backs rookie for final
24 Oct 2012
WP coach Allister Coetzee has selected Damian de Allende at No 12 for Saturday’s Currie Cup final against the Sharks.
De Allende replaces Marcel Brache in this crucial position; the first time he will partner Juan de Jongh in midfield. This is the only change made by Coetzee following last week’s semi-final win against the Golden Lions.
A season-ending injury to Ederies Arendse allowed De Allende to come into the squad, and a string of strong performances eventually saw him securing a starting berth on the wing during the latter half of the season.
Coetzee feels that the powerful player is good enough to start at No 12 in the most important game of the Currie Cup season. It’s clear that the slightly-built Brache does not fit the requirement for a clash of this nature.
‘Marcel will still have a job to do from the bench, but we’ve gone with Damian to start because we need somebody who can front up physically in that position,’ said the Province coach.
‘He has explosive pace and is a good ball carrier. He has good core skills and is a solid defender. Whenever he has played for us, he has made a massive impression. He did that again last week; his contribution was telling.’
Coetzee doesn’t feel that the fact that De Allende hasn’t played at No 12 at this level will count against him. De Allende’s inexperience is also not viewed as a shortcoming.
‘The conditions underfoot will be heavy, and Damian is the player we need for these conditions. He’s young but he’s good enough to be handed this opportunity.
‘He has played in that position for the WP U21s before. He will also have some experienced players around him like Juan and Bryan Habana. Damian knows what’s required of him in that position, he knows our systems having been involved for some time.’
Gio Aplon is retained at fullback despite the superior kicking game of Joe Pietersen. Coetzee explained that it would help to have Aplon’s left boot complementing Demetri Catrakilis’s right in what should be a big tussle for territory.
Former Springbok prop Deon Carstens and provincial veteran Brok Harris are also named on the bench, with younger front rowers in Frans Malherbe and Steven Kitshoff backed to start. The WP coaches are hoping that this will allow the team to finish strongly.
Western Province – 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Demetri Catrakilis, 9 Nic Groom, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Don Armand, 6 Deon Fourie (c), 5 De Kock Steenkamp, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Scarra Ntubeni, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Deon Carstens, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 19 Jebb Sinclair, 20 Louis Schreuder, 21 Marcel Brache, 22 Joe Pietersen.
By Jon Cardinelli
151 Comments
24 Oct 2012, 13:10 pm
De Allende dragons.
Bold call.
24 Oct 2012, 13:12 pm
Good team nice to see youngsters being backed still. De Allende did well when he came on last week. My question, should JP Du Plessis have been picked after strong season?
Who will make the Stormers 30 man squad? De Allende, Brache or Du Plessis
24 Oct 2012, 13:13 pm
Big call.
24 Oct 2012, 13:13 pm
Was worried he’d start Pietersen or Brache. Just the lineup I wanted to see! Agreed that JP du Plessis at least deserves a spot in the squad ahead of Brache.
24 Oct 2012, 13:14 pm
Sharks will certainly target that 10/12 axis with Alberts et al.
24 Oct 2012, 13:19 pm
De Allende is a good call I reckon. Very good call.
24 Oct 2012, 13:33 pm
Was always on the cards. Not that he’d pick de Allende, but that he would not pick Brache. Unfortunately Brache’s ceiling is vodacom cup. His temperament is suspect and his execution inconsistent. I’d have picked JP du Plessis, but i suspect AC is looking for a 3-0 type victory by picking de Allende
24 Oct 2012, 13:33 pm
Aplon
vd Heever
JDJ
Habana
Vermuelen
Fourie
Etsebeth
Kitshoff
Dangerous the lot of them.
24 Oct 2012, 13:34 pm
@willievz-5: That would’ve been the plan, but AC threw a bit of a curveball. They might stilll attack that channel, but might not get as much change out of it had Brache played.
24 Oct 2012, 13:41 pm
@pompies2-9: Correct. That is exactly one of the reasons de Allende gets to start. Big, strong, good on defence and actually quite a slippery customer……
He has made a pretty good impact in his outings thus far.
Poor John Dobson though. Our U/21′s cupboard will be rather bare for their final….
24 Oct 2012, 13:52 pm
stormers are gonna get pomped
24 Oct 2012, 13:59 pm
Hoeveel keer het ons al dit gesien. Die beter span op papier maar kom dit by die groot oomblik kan ons dit nie deur haak nie. Hierdie is ‘n baie goeie span , goeie spelers maar die afgelope twee seisoene wonder ek of daar nie weer gekyk moet word na ons afrigting nie. Ons mis net daai x factor elke jaar. Ek glo hierdie span kan die toekoms groot dinge vermag. Kan nie sien hoe ons Saterdag die Sharks op hulle eie veld gaan wen nie. 50/50 kans vir enige span om te wen. Mag die beste span wen.
24 Oct 2012, 14:08 pm
@pompies2-9: Defense is a team effort.
The fact that it is a new combination worries me, but this might be offset if it is wet underfoot, which will slow down phase play and allow defense to realign quicker.
24 Oct 2012, 14:09 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-11: Dik gepomp!
24 Oct 2012, 14:09 pm
@Andre_WP-12: Andre ou maat, WP is beslis nie die beter span op papier nie.
24 Oct 2012, 14:13 pm
@willievz-3: I agree with you, this is an enormous call. Should have move JdJ to inside centre with JP du Plessis at outside centre and Allende on the wing in the place of Hekkies.
24 Oct 2012, 14:15 pm
Too many weak links in this Province side. Sharks will be jumping at the bit to get on with this final
24 Oct 2012, 14:15 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-14:
24 Oct 2012, 14:17 pm
2009 was our best year for centres at the Stormers
Jean had not gone to Munster
Jaque had just signed from Lions
We had De Jongh and the underrated Newman as our centre options
Tim Whitehead & Paul Bosch were coming through the ranks and with Brache and Du Plessis in the younger team.
We also had Peter Grant and JJ Engelbrecht to cover
Wow wat depth and what quality of players we lost.
24 Oct 2012, 14:17 pm
@willievz-13: To add to that as we have heard all week, Lamborghini is in top form and could find it easier with opponents not having played together much.
24 Oct 2012, 14:22 pm
@willievz-13: Valid concern, but you’d imagined they trained together for quite a bit throughout the season and probably some trial matches. Additionally defense off primary phases won’t be a problem as this is mostly man-on-man. The concern would be mostly for tertiary phases, but i reckon the defensive structure is pretty flexible and players are interchangeable. It looks like they place emphasis on alignment, rather than man marking.
24 Oct 2012, 14:22 pm
“Coetzee doesn’t feel that the fact that De Allende hasn’t played at No 12 at this level will count against him. De Allende’s inexperience is also not viewed as a shortcoming.”
Don’t then use it as an excuse afterwards if things don’t go our way, Toetie. Bringing in a wing at inside centre for the most importanr game of the season is a big, big gamble. I can understand bringing in some meat to counter guys like Deysel and Alberts in close play but how will this selection affect the defence out wide with a first time partnership between the two centres?
I thought he would bring in Pieters in place of Shadow (after his stupidity last week: intentionally knocking the ball out of play and then not kicking the ball out from the kick off after we had just taken the lead in the 77th minute of the match) and move Aplon to wing.
In any case: GO WEEPEE.
CC CHAMPS for 2012.
24 Oct 2012, 14:28 pm
@nama1-22: He is doing the same thing as HM, playing inexperience players out of position and hopefully he will not lament the fact the guys are inexperience afterwards like HM. Allende would be a better bet on the wing in place of Hekkies with JP du Plessies joining JdJ in the midfield.
24 Oct 2012, 14:34 pm
@pompies2-21:
In tertiary phases you should certainly give extra attention to your spacing and alignment, especially if tight forwards now comprise a large part of your immediate defensive wall. It is very unnusual for a 10 and 12 to line up next to one another more than 2 phases in a row.
I think the Stormers / WP have been very good in structuring their alignment.
However, given the inexperience of the new 10/12 axis, defense off primary phases might be a big problem, especially the lineout if someone like Alberts steamrollers towards that 10/12 axis.
Let’s see how this pans out. In general, I am glad that SA teams are starting to shake off their conservatism and try these big calls in big games. High risk, high return.
I believe De Allende has been picked primarily for his ball carrying ability – and therefore his attacking ability – rather than being picked as a defensive pawn. Province will be bashing it up on first phase and launch a garryowen or kick for the corners from second phase, and play without the ball.
24 Oct 2012, 14:40 pm
Balls, for the first time this season Coetzee is showing some balls… A coach is defined by his selections, this could be one of those watershed moments in his career… call the man what you may, but the WP/Stormers has featured in the play-off’s of every competition they entered since he has been at the helm, no trophies regrettably, but still, no other province/franchise has even come close to emulating this…
24 Oct 2012, 14:41 pm
@John1976-23:
Yeah, I hate it when coaches do that. Blaming a loss on inexperience when there were other options to begin with and when they were the ones who selected the “inexperienced” players.
Your suggestion re De Allende on the wing with a JdJ/JdP centre combo, makes sense to me.
24 Oct 2012, 14:47 pm
Groom as a starter is a great move.
Groom to outplay Reinach on Saturday. I wonder if that will put him in line for the EOYT? ol::l
24 Oct 2012, 14:50 pm
Sharks by 12.
24 Oct 2012, 14:52 pm
@nama1-27:
Jou kop is so deurmekaar soos jou smilie
24 Oct 2012, 14:52 pm
@thesaint-25:
Jip. As I’ve said before, we’ve been knocking on the door since 2010 now. That door will open sometime and when it does…
WP played 5 finals from 1977-1981 and only shared the cup in 1979 before they eventually won in 1982. The rest, as they say, is history.
24 Oct 2012, 14:55 pm
@nama1-27: Both Groom and Reinach should be selected. Pienaar, Hougaard and Vermaak are all kak.
24 Oct 2012, 14:55 pm
@nama1-27:
Ek hoop dis beter.
24 Oct 2012, 14:57 pm
@Finfan-31:
Two good youngsters coming through at SH but I would first like to see how they perform in Super rugby next year before punting them for the Boks.
24 Oct 2012, 14:59 pm
@nama1-32:
Baie
24 Oct 2012, 15:00 pm
When does Plum announce the Sharks team? Tomorrow?
24 Oct 2012, 15:04 pm
@willievz-24: True. AC might also be banking on their varsity cup combo.
24 Oct 2012, 15:05 pm
@nama1-35:
Yes, the sharks can hold it in a bit longer than other provinces.
No premature ejactateamlasion
24 Oct 2012, 15:05 pm
Since people seem to be getting it wrong, De Allende is a natural centre, not a wing. And he did come at 12 last week and do well there…
24 Oct 2012, 15:06 pm
this is not good for us sharks….
was really hoping brache would stay at 12.
is there a kakker centre in south africa at the moment?
24 Oct 2012, 15:15 pm
@Mr Black-37:
Well, we like to show our hand.
@silent_shadow-38:
The problem people have is that he never started there for this whole season. Yes, he did well last week when he came on as reserve but this time he is going to start. Different ball game.
Hope he does great and score the winning try.
WP to take it by 10…at least.
24 Oct 2012, 15:16 pm
@charo-39: yes, meyer bosman…
24 Oct 2012, 15:16 pm
@charo-39: The only kakker centre in SA is N1 City.
24 Oct 2012, 15:19 pm
@Transformation-41:
entirely predictable
@katman-42:
24 Oct 2012, 15:19 pm
@charo-39: JDV,
thats who i was hoping for to play against Sharks.
24 Oct 2012, 15:20 pm
@katman-42: that’s only because you haven’t been to the mall in kraaifontein
24 Oct 2012, 15:25 pm
@Transformation-41: Andreis Straaus n his coming to iNkumkani, yeses!
24 Oct 2012, 15:26 pm
@mabu-44:
i reckon brache is worse than jdv..
he has this timotei-esque unique ability to pass over two of his team mates to the ballboy.
24 Oct 2012, 15:28 pm
@pompies2-45: Ja, but you know what they say about shopping centres?
If you’ve seen one, you’ve seen a mall.
24 Oct 2012, 15:28 pm
@Transformation-41:
I was thinking of same but then thought I’d rather leave it there. The guys are really sensitive these days.Can’t have Charo also leaving the site.
24 Oct 2012, 15:34 pm
@Transformation-13: Transie , exactly , when the Bulls did not win anything their supporters stayed away immediatly
After 10 years of not winning anything people are still going to Newlands , I am sure once they realise their team has not won anything they will stay away also.
24 Oct 2012, 15:36 pm
@nama1-49:
you wouldn’t even notice if i did
24 Oct 2012, 15:39 pm
@willievz-15: Net op hierdie blog is hulle
24 Oct 2012, 15:40 pm
@charo-43: relevant nonetheless.
24 Oct 2012, 15:42 pm
@mabu-46: andiyazi bamsaphi! bubudenge bodwa!
24 Oct 2012, 15:49 pm
@capebull-50: are you sure you are answering the #13 post on this thread?
24 Oct 2012, 15:52 pm
Mitchells Plain Town centre
24 Oct 2012, 15:58 pm
@Transformation-55: This is just for you, and the other fellow (can’t remember who)…..
Province will also be taking injured captain and normal inside centre Jean de Villiers to KwaZulu-Natal with them, and his mentoring and calming influence will be sought to smooth the rookie’s way.
24 Oct 2012, 15:58 pm
@capebull-50:
wrong thread jy’s heeltemal uit jou wentelbaan uit in ‘n ander sonnestelsel in
24 Oct 2012, 16:05 pm
@charo-51:
Oh, I would. Believe me.
What’s your take on Saturday’s game? Quietly optimistic?
24 Oct 2012, 16:05 pm
Jarre, if their ever was a game Province need to win it is this one.
Just break the seal and the rest will follow.
24 Oct 2012, 16:14 pm
@Jeraldjay-60:
Agree.
24 Oct 2012, 16:16 pm
@nama1-59:
hate being the journo’s “favourite”.
this is a strong weepee team even with their “baby” front row and they will be motivated as all hell.
can see lots of kicking for corners and driving mauls from your team. they are the best in the country at it.
24 Oct 2012, 16:17 pm
@charo-39:
Andries Strauss/Jaco Taute/Meyer Bosman/JJ Engelbrecht
@mabu-46:
Ku better uThabang Molefe, nuff said….
24 Oct 2012, 16:17 pm
big call by ac. rolling the dice, but starting with brache would be a gamble too considering his inconsistency
24 Oct 2012, 16:19 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-57: BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now jean is a “calming influence”, these WP okes are copycats of note!
the only “calming influence” is playing for Newcastle in England, one Corne Uys
24 Oct 2012, 16:21 pm
@mxhosa-63: udlala phi loMolefe khona?
24 Oct 2012, 16:22 pm
@mxhosa-63:
approx 75% of those are boks…
ok, i know that doesn’t always mean a lot…
even timotei was once
but brache???? really
but, sorry, brache
24 Oct 2012, 16:23 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-57:
dunno if you’ve seen this already, its a larf
http://kyknet.dstv.com/2012/10/19/kwela-funnies-wenner/
24 Oct 2012, 16:25 pm
@Transformation-65: Wasn’t it Barry Geel?
24 Oct 2012, 16:28 pm
@mamma_lou-64: brache was rubbish last saturday…no impact in contact, kicked aimlessly on 1st phase, kak hands….just rubbish!
bagel was here when the game was on and i mentioned it to him just before half-time, by the time AC put in de Allende i’d worked the WP supporters into a frenzy
24 Oct 2012, 16:29 pm
@transformation-66:
Griffons
24 Oct 2012, 16:29 pm
The De Allende/ JDJ combo is a match made in heaven.
If one or two moves come off, this Province backline will be dynamite.
Province are desperate for a win. Habana is the only one that has won a Currie Cup.
24 Oct 2012, 16:30 pm
@Jeraldjay-60: Their time will come…not this Saturday….but soon……ish
24 Oct 2012, 16:30 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-68: Ha ha, dis snaaks.
24 Oct 2012, 16:32 pm
@Skeppie-73:
I’m a instant gratification kinda guy.
24 Oct 2012, 16:32 pm
@katman-74:
hehe
ja nee, hy’s n blou bul ou maat
24 Oct 2012, 16:33 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-68: Bakkies, I kid you not, I voted for that clip
That little face with quivering lip was too much…. I also voted for the little girl who is a Lions fan 
(Now that was just tragic……..”Die Leeeeeeus her verrrrloooor *trane trane trane* – die stormers hhhheeeeettt hhhhuuule gewennnnnnnnnnnnnnn *trane trane trane*. Die Leeeeeeus wen noit nieeeeeeeeeeee huil huil huil.
(Ek love die Kwela funnies….die diere is gewoonlik my faves, maar die jaar was die rugby kinnertjies darem te goed om te ignoreer)
@Transformation-65:
Knew you would get a laugh out of that…
24 Oct 2012, 16:33 pm
@Finfan-69: no, Barry Geel is the “SBW Killer”
17 – 0
24 Oct 2012, 16:34 pm
@Transformation-65:
24 Oct 2012, 16:38 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-77:
hehehe
nice one.
24 Oct 2012, 16:39 pm
@willievz-79: It is you. The other fella terribly impressed with ‘calming influences’ – now I recall.
24 Oct 2012, 16:39 pm
imagine if the Sharks also had Bismarck, it’d be more of a walk-over than this saturday is going to be…
24 Oct 2012, 16:39 pm
It will be very ironic if WP wins the final, without Burger and JDV in the starting XV.
Those two senior Boks have yet to taste any trophy success at provincial / franchise level, and are arguably the most hungry WP players in this regard.
24 Oct 2012, 16:44 pm
@willievz-83:
Surely they can’t be hungrier than Brok.
24 Oct 2012, 16:45 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-77:
send that clip of the little lions girl to ****** kdk and cronies. let them see what they are responsible for. may they all rot in hell.
24 Oct 2012, 16:46 pm
@Transformation-70:
agree with you he had a shocker. still giving a guy his first game at 12 for a final is a big call. i think its the right decision, but now you have brache potentially coming on when the game is in the balance eish another roll of the dice. who will turn up! pinky or the brain
24 Oct 2012, 16:47 pm
@mamma_lou-86:
!=?
24 Oct 2012, 16:48 pm
@willievz-83: Not quite true. I am sure they were playing for the Stormers when they were SA Conference winners in the Super Rugby competition last year. I’ll never forget the wild celebrations and the joy in Cape Town’s streets.
24 Oct 2012, 16:49 pm
@Transformation-82:
i miss his mock punches.
never seen a guy c.ock em like that before. that’s hollywood s.hit right there.
almost makes you want to force him to go through with it just so you can see what it does
24 Oct 2012, 16:50 pm
@Finfan-88: Surely the Capetonians don’t count the Conference Trophy as trophy success?
If they do, that is just sad
24 Oct 2012, 16:54 pm
@Jeraldjay-75: I hear you, but you are gonna have to wait a little longer….my guppies are gonna take this one
24 Oct 2012, 16:55 pm
@willievz-90: They probably don’t. Just polluting a perfectly civilised and constructive WP thread
24 Oct 2012, 16:58 pm
@willievz-90:
It’s an improvement on Griquas trophy cabinet.
24 Oct 2012, 17:01 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-85: I doubt the tears of a child would tug at the heart strings of that lot at all. But take away their money…..and we might see emotional meltdowns of the exiled guppie sort.
24 Oct 2012, 17:02 pm
@willievz-90:
don’t think they do. remember jdv saying last year that their only goal is to win the super title. i personally don’t think it would be sad though they ended top of the conference and deserve it
24 Oct 2012, 17:03 pm
@David-93: Hey now
I was going to say that the Vodacom Cup should count as trophy success for Griquas. We missed out this year – only just – but we will be back.
And…we are, and always will be, the first ever winners of the Currie Cup. No one can take that away from us
24 Oct 2012, 17:06 pm
@mamma_lou-95: Wise words from JdV. As he is the current Bok captain, I would’ve been a little worried if he said that their only goal was to win the Conference Trophy.
24 Oct 2012, 17:10 pm
@willievz-90: No self respecting Capetonian counts the conference trophy. Although we bloody well should, as beating all local Super rugby teams to the conference winners title is a far tougher task than winning a diluted Currie Cup…..
(You will see just how much a conference winners cup means, when the Bulls or Guppies eventually get to win one…
24 Oct 2012, 17:12 pm
Oh yes Im the great polluter (ooh ooh)
Adrift in a world of my own (ooh ooh)
I play the game but to my real shame
You’ve left me to dream all alone
Too real is this feeling of make believe
Too real when I feel what my heart cant conceal
BOOM!
24 Oct 2012, 17:14 pm
So the KapeCunties getting way beyond themselves…
Consider this a good sized pollutingshit on this Brokeback thread…
Yours truly
Saark Mania
24 Oct 2012, 17:14 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-98:
I still believe that teams who want to win the S15 of a given year need to win a Conference Trophy that year.
It is just too tough, near impossible, to fly halfway across the world for a final, and then try and win it.
24 Oct 2012, 17:15 pm
@Heavens Game-100: Just one more Teflon coated dump…
Hubbada hubbada hubbada…
24 Oct 2012, 17:15 pm
Tlaling abput the kings:
DIE feit dat daar nie ’n enkele gekleurde speler die naweek vir die Oostelike Provinsie Kings teen die Cheetahs opgedraf het nie, is ’n probleem vir die Suid-Afrikaanse Rugbyunie (Saru).Só sê die uitvoerende hoof van Saru, Jurie Roux.“Dit is ’n probleem vir Saru en ons het dit met die Kings opgeneem.”Roux het nie gesê wat aan die Kings gesê is nie.Wynand Claassen, oud-Bokkaptein, het gesê as die Kings nie Suid-Afrikaanse gekleurde spelers kies om te speel nie, is dit sinloos om hulle aanstaande jaar in die Superreeks te laat speel.“Dit defeat die purpose. Word hulle nie juis toegelaat om in die Superreeks te speel sodat meer gekleurde spelers die kans gegun word om op daardie vlak rugby te speel nie?”Naas Botha, voormalige Springbok-losskakel, sê om gekleurde spelers te laat speel, was nooit ’n amptelike rede vir hul insluiting in die Superreeks nie.“Daar is nooit amptelik gesê dit is die rede nie.”Die Cheetahs het die Kings Saterdag met 53-14 vermorsel in die eerste van twee promosie-en-relegasiewedstryde.Claassen reken die Kings gaan nie die mas opkom in die Superreeks nie.“Hulle gaan verneder word.” Roux het ontken dat Saru geld vir die Kings gegee het om spelers te kontrakteer vir aanstaande jaar se Superreeks.“Saru het nie méér geld vir die Kings gegee as vir enige ander unie nie en sal ook nie bykomende geld gee sodat hulle beter vaar in die Superreeks nie.”Botha wou hom nie uitlaat oor die Kings se kanse nie.“Ons sal moet wag en sien. Hulle het ’n paar spelers gekontrakteer wat dalk ’n verskil kan maak. Tot voor die onderskep-drie van Andries Strauss het hulle nie te vrot gevaar teen die Cheetahs die afgelope naweek nie.”Cheeky Watson, president van die Kings, het teen druktyd nie sy selfoon geantwoord nie.
24 Oct 2012, 17:16 pm
Talking abput the kings:
DIE feit dat daar nie ’n enkele gekleurde speler die naweek vir die Oostelike Provinsie Kings teen die Cheetahs opgedraf het nie, is ’n probleem vir die Suid-Afrikaanse Rugbyunie (Saru).Só sê die uitvoerende hoof van Saru, Jurie Roux.“Dit is ’n probleem vir Saru en ons het dit met die Kings opgeneem.”Roux het nie gesê wat aan die Kings gesê is nie.Wynand Claassen, oud-Bokkaptein, het gesê as die Kings nie Suid-Afrikaanse gekleurde spelers kies om te speel nie, is dit sinloos om hulle aanstaande jaar in die Superreeks te laat speel.“Dit defeat die purpose. Word hulle nie juis toegelaat om in die Superreeks te speel sodat meer gekleurde spelers die kans gegun word om op daardie vlak rugby te speel nie?”Naas Botha, voormalige Springbok-losskakel, sê om gekleurde spelers te laat speel, was nooit ’n amptelike rede vir hul insluiting in die Superreeks nie.“Daar is nooit amptelik gesê dit is die rede nie.”Die Cheetahs het die Kings Saterdag met 53-14 vermorsel in die eerste van twee promosie-en-relegasiewedstryde.Claassen reken die Kings gaan nie die mas opkom in die Superreeks nie.“Hulle gaan verneder word.” Roux het ontken dat Saru geld vir die Kings gegee het om spelers te kontrakteer vir aanstaande jaar se Superreeks.“Saru het nie méér geld vir die Kings gegee as vir enige ander unie nie en sal ook nie bykomende geld gee sodat hulle beter vaar in die Superreeks nie.”Botha wou hom nie uitlaat oor die Kings se kanse nie.“Ons sal moet wag en sien. Hulle het ’n paar spelers gekontrakteer wat dalk ’n verskil kan maak. Tot voor die onderskep-drie van Andries Strauss het hulle nie te vrot gevaar teen die Cheetahs die afgelope naweek nie.”Cheeky Watson, president van die Kings, het teen druktyd nie sy selfoon geantwoord nie.
24 Oct 2012, 17:17 pm
Sorry this tablet is killimg me
24 Oct 2012, 17:19 pm
@willievz-96:
Wasn’t that more a gesture, rather like giving a Springbok head to the NZ club that beat the touring Boks?
24 Oct 2012, 17:19 pm
Bit of radioactive pollution next…
I took apiss
at fortune’s sweet kiss…
POP!
24 Oct 2012, 17:20 pm
You can win the conference and still not have a home semi. Ask the reds
24 Oct 2012, 17:22 pm
@Heavens Game-107: HG, no wonder you are so misunderstood here…
24 Oct 2012, 17:22 pm
@David-106: Nope, won it fair and square, in 1899.
Not my fault that Western Province and Transvaal did not compete
24 Oct 2012, 17:23 pm
@willievz-101:
Yeah, we really missed out after guaranteeing a home final if we won the semi, by heading the full log.
24 Oct 2012, 17:23 pm
@willievz-110: Did Natal??
24 Oct 2012, 17:24 pm
@Heavens Game-99: You’re only here because you ain’t welcome on the mormon site OR the site that initiates Facebook petitions to remove coaches.
You have nowhere else to go….
24 Oct 2012, 17:28 pm
@willievz-101: Agree with you 100%. Ditto for the Currie Cup re: travel is bad….
I mean, look at all the travel the WP kids have had to put in the last 2 weeks. It’s insane. CT, Jhb, CT, Durban. (Not even in 1st class). The Sharkies would have installed themselves as exhausted, over achieving, supremely talented but total underdogs if they were in our position.
To win – you need to stay at home.
24 Oct 2012, 17:29 pm
@Finfan-112: Who cares
Western Province, Transvaal and the Free State stayed away in 1899 because of the Anglo-Boer War. WP and Transvaal could have given us a a serious challenge.
Amazing to think that Natal won the trophy for the first time in 1990.
24 Oct 2012, 17:58 pm
WineX today gentlemen
24 Oct 2012, 19:21 pm
De Allende is a good move, but even better would be start Schreuder at 10 and play Catrakillis off bench, start with Pietersen at FB to take goal kicks and Aplon at 11 Habana on bench or else Aplon 14, Habana 11, Vd Heever on bench
either way would be better to start Schreuder at 10 and run it flat and hard at Lambie first half.. that the way to unsettle this sanctimonious lot.
Catrakillis is WP’s one weak link, Groom – Schreuder half back pairing and we take these guppies in their own little fortress.
24 Oct 2012, 19:23 pm
Plum brings in all the heavies – the Great Whites, the Tigers & the Zambezis:
http://www.sharksrugby.co.za/news/general/121024/Sharks_Ready_to_Fire
24 Oct 2012, 19:56 pm
Good team! WP are always good at bringing through the youngsters… It is keeping them that seems to be the problem… Sharks favoutites but do not write this WP team off…
24 Oct 2012, 21:12 pm
where is goddess of keo Nikkichita Signorita.. she deserves a medal of honor.. she single handed cleaned up this site with a few well placed poignant words of wisdom which no other male blogger or administrator could achieve before her – pointing to the source of the pollution and .. voila.. all gone.. cleaned up in a jiffy.. easy as abracadabra puddle sticks clean as a whistle .. all the chippy chip chipmunk poor me proprietorial of righteousness gone walkies other side of the cyber psycho sayonara seclusion where all the lurve runs warm and thick and smooth behind the sanctimonious knight in shiny armor curtain of secluded sectarian make believe.
24 Oct 2012, 21:23 pm
net ‘n boy sal iemand uit posisie kies in ‘n final
24 Oct 2012, 21:30 pm
Shut up.
24 Oct 2012, 21:40 pm
Nikichita should smack this fat aggrandized little kittykont moron who thinks he owns this blog sideways just like she smacked those other over precious little nincompoops who were getting way too big for their baby bunting booties.
24 Oct 2012, 21:46 pm
@assagai-123: Fight your own battles, you big old girl’s blouse. This running off to the toughest girl on the playground for pwotekshun is so weak. As is changing your name more often than your bedpan.
24 Oct 2012, 21:50 pm
Aplon at 15 will be a dream final!
Watch Lambie hoisting a barrage of ups and unders
24 Oct 2012, 21:51 pm
I fight my own battles here you little prick.. only problem is the moderators can’t take the heat cos the gestapo third force put out the hit squad to come silence the innocent lamb .. pity I can’t actually let you have it right where your snooty little pompous face needs rearranging .. huge great pity indeed.
24 Oct 2012, 21:53 pm
Lambie better watch out he don’t get flattened.. like a guava under a steam roller.. so Hondo how much the bookies offering for a WP win..? let see how much balls you got as a real hard core punter for true guts and glory.. I betcha you just too chicken to take a wager against the odds..
24 Oct 2012, 21:55 pm
@rugby_only-121:
wat dan van Kitch Christie?
24 Oct 2012, 21:59 pm
@assagai-126: The moderators just empty the trash from time to time. When it starts to stink, they put it out on the pavement. And once the bergies have gone through the bin and taken whatever’s remotely useful, the vrot rubbish is recycled into whatever the fck you like to call yourself next.
24 Oct 2012, 22:05 pm
@katman-129: keep sticking that self aggrandized little pseudo intelligent nose way up in the air you little piece of trash heap drek.. you need the lesson of your over inflated little arsehole life imparted to you straight between your over inflated ego rampant self idolizing eyes you miserable little pissarse self righteous skunk. I fix your fat arrogant problem for you so fast you wouldn’t know your pisswilly little punk faced nose from your pisswilly little punk faced arse pisswilly little pseudo intelligent piece of garbage punk.
24 Oct 2012, 22:10 pm
@assagai-130: The garbage analogy was mine, remember. I likened you you a steaming heap of trash. Find you own metaphorical insults, you cheap phony little fck.
24 Oct 2012, 22:12 pm
@katman-129: @assagai-130: get numbers, share BB pin or get whatsapp.. continue…
8)
24 Oct 2012, 22:17 pm
whatdammit
?/ this is becoming one of the longer king of (over?) the hill feuds recorded
24 Oct 2012, 22:17 pm
nothing is yours you pseudo little arsecreep fckup.. whoever you little pissarse piece of garbage cleverprick runt think you are.. you better think again you piece of scum arrogant fakefck trash.. and if you still can’t get the message it should be taught you straight between your fakefck self righteous eyes you miserable little pseudo intelligent scum faced skunk..
24 Oct 2012, 22:19 pm
@shooter-132: you tell this little fakefck runt to watch his fakefck step or he gets taught the lesson of his fakefck life.. and if he don’t wanna learn the lesson here I teach it to him in real life.
24 Oct 2012, 22:27 pm
@assagai-134: You really are a rather disgusting potty mouthed old man. Why can’t you try to be decent for a change? Why can’t you speak/write normally? What is actually wrong with you?
24 Oct 2012, 23:13 pm
Assagai your posts suck. You would want to drop Habana for Pietersen to fir Schroeder in. Youre mad.
24 Oct 2012, 23:25 pm
@Rhys7-137: if you want to beat Sharks only chance is take the game to them don’t wait for them to take it to you.. and only way to do that is play it hard and fast and direct up channel 1
which means Coetsee should have taken the gamble and started Schreuder at 10 leave Catrakillis on bench if it comes down to a penalty shoot out which he will know by 2nd half if his gamble paid off.. which it could do.
So if I want to keep some momentum for 2nd half I either start Habana with Vd Heever on wings or Aplon with Habana or Aplon with Vd Heever and have Habana on bench for 2nd half explosion.. Don’t make all that much difference which wing starts or finishes but what does make a big difference is which fly half starts and finishes because that will be the entire fulcrum of the game plan.. and Schreuder offers way much more at 10 than Catrakillis ever could or would.
24 Oct 2012, 23:28 pm
Even Joe Pietersen is a better option at 10 than Catrakillis.. at last resort Catrakillis can slot in at 15 in a last ditch effort to rake up points if it comes down to a kicking duel.. but the game should be taken to the Sharks from kick off and with Catrakillis at 10 I can’t see that happening.. WP could be on back foot all game long if Catrakilis runs the game from 10.
25 Oct 2012, 01:09 am
@assagai-138:
Ya, Schreuders cameo in the 2nd half kinda left me curious for more.
A bit similar to the way Goosens lil 10minute show in his debut test brought these grown azz Keo journos to their knees, taking it past their tonsils & ready to swallow all his undeserved hype spunkk, deepthroat style without a gag in sight.
But Schreuder might have something…I know you don’t rate Elton, but I do & he vanished when this guy took the field.
Ah well, maybe he’ll get another shot
25 Oct 2012, 03:05 am
@katman-136:
Los die ou kerel, sy Datsun wou nie start nie…he also had to up his ‘bonus’ payments from 1/2 loaf to 3/4 loaf, no happy at all.
25 Oct 2012, 03:31 am
On paper the Sharks should take this one…………….luckily we don’t play on paper so you never know!
25 Oct 2012, 03:34 am
@katman-129:
Classic
25 Oct 2012, 03:41 am
@assagai-135:
From what I have heard, you are a skinny little runt a rse with a “stoner” whispy beard. Are you trying to make up for something? Cause I very much doubt you would say what you say to 99% of the blogers here in real life as you’d get your a rse handed to you on a plate.
Gotta love cyber warriors…………
25 Oct 2012, 03:47 am
@whatever-142:
Jy ‘n weepee man?
Saturday may be a bridge to far but next year’s S15 looking good…
25 Oct 2012, 03:58 am
@Slartibartfast-145:
Ja Koos………WP jou lekker ding
Yes, next year should be good. Get some of those injured Boks back, Bekker Burger etc, some good off season purchases, so hopefully we can be up there again.
I just get frustrated with the backline though…………eish!
25 Oct 2012, 04:08 am
@whatever-146:
Hahahaha backline issues, this from a light 5 supporter! Jokes aside, they have been building well and I am sure they will be up there again. Some very good youngsters and hopefully a hort injury list next year.
25 Oct 2012, 04:18 am
The injury list is a real worry, not only at WP, but all of the SA sides. Not sure what it is, lack of conditioning can’t be blamed as Bissy and Schaulk were knees, JP thumb……Frans ? can’t recall what his injury was, Bekker back etc. Shows up our genuine lack of depth as I think HM was mal playing Taute at 13 v the AB’s.
25 Oct 2012, 04:33 am
@whatever-148:
It is hard to tell and probably a combination of a number of factors. I would think rather than conditioning maybe a case of incorrect training i.e. to hard, to long or just wrong focus.
Number of injuries can be classified as accidents but even then it can possibly be traced back to the training pitch. Of course as someone mentione on here before, our game plan also lend itself to a very abbrasive approach and the toll on the body adds up as the season progresses.
All said and done it does seem injuries follows a patern and some years you better off than others.
As for my own team, as long as we have Naka we have little hope…
25 Oct 2012, 05:59 am
@Slartibartfast-149:
Hahaha Koos, boet someone in the Cheetahs coaching system knows a thing or two about running the ball though…………..defence on da udder hand…
25 Oct 2012, 06:08 am
@whatever-150:
Well it is not Naka, he could not even catch a ball let alone run with it! We have had running rugby forever, I assume it comes straight from the schools into varsity and beyond.
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