Coetzee backs rookie for final
24 Oct 2012
WP coach Allister Coetzee has selected Damian de Allende at No 12 for Saturday’s Currie Cup final against the Sharks.
De Allende replaces Marcel Brache in this crucial position; the first time he will partner Juan de Jongh in midfield. This is the only change made by Coetzee following last week’s semi-final win against the Golden Lions.
A season-ending injury to Ederies Arendse allowed De Allende to come into the squad, and a string of strong performances eventually saw him securing a starting berth on the wing during the latter half of the season.
Coetzee feels that the powerful player is good enough to start at No 12 in the most important game of the Currie Cup season. It’s clear that the slightly-built Brache does not fit the requirement for a clash of this nature.
‘Marcel will still have a job to do from the bench, but we’ve gone with Damian to start because we need somebody who can front up physically in that position,’ said the Province coach.
‘He has explosive pace and is a good ball carrier. He has good core skills and is a solid defender. Whenever he has played for us, he has made a massive impression. He did that again last week; his contribution was telling.’
Coetzee doesn’t feel that the fact that De Allende hasn’t played at No 12 at this level will count against him. De Allende’s inexperience is also not viewed as a shortcoming.
‘The conditions underfoot will be heavy, and Damian is the player we need for these conditions. He’s young but he’s good enough to be handed this opportunity.
‘He has played in that position for the WP U21s before. He will also have some experienced players around him like Juan and Bryan Habana. Damian knows what’s required of him in that position, he knows our systems having been involved for some time.’
Gio Aplon is retained at fullback despite the superior kicking game of Joe Pietersen. Coetzee explained that it would help to have Aplon’s left boot complementing Demetri Catrakilis’s right in what should be a big tussle for territory.
Former Springbok prop Deon Carstens and provincial veteran Brok Harris are also named on the bench, with younger front rowers in Frans Malherbe and Steven Kitshoff backed to start. The WP coaches are hoping that this will allow the team to finish strongly.
Western Province – 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Demetri Catrakilis, 9 Nic Groom, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Don Armand, 6 Deon Fourie (c), 5 De Kock Steenkamp, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Scarra Ntubeni, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Deon Carstens, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 19 Jebb Sinclair, 20 Louis Schreuder, 21 Marcel Brache, 22 Joe Pietersen.
By Jon Cardinelli
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24 Oct 2012, 17:14 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-98:
I still believe that teams who want to win the S15 of a given year need to win a Conference Trophy that year.
It is just too tough, near impossible, to fly halfway across the world for a final, and then try and win it.
24 Oct 2012, 17:15 pm
@Heavens Game-100: Just one more Teflon coated dump…
Hubbada hubbada hubbada…
24 Oct 2012, 17:15 pm
Tlaling abput the kings:
DIE feit dat daar nie ’n enkele gekleurde speler die naweek vir die Oostelike Provinsie Kings teen die Cheetahs opgedraf het nie, is ’n probleem vir die Suid-Afrikaanse Rugbyunie (Saru).Só sê die uitvoerende hoof van Saru, Jurie Roux.“Dit is ’n probleem vir Saru en ons het dit met die Kings opgeneem.”Roux het nie gesê wat aan die Kings gesê is nie.Wynand Claassen, oud-Bokkaptein, het gesê as die Kings nie Suid-Afrikaanse gekleurde spelers kies om te speel nie, is dit sinloos om hulle aanstaande jaar in die Superreeks te laat speel.“Dit defeat die purpose. Word hulle nie juis toegelaat om in die Superreeks te speel sodat meer gekleurde spelers die kans gegun word om op daardie vlak rugby te speel nie?”Naas Botha, voormalige Springbok-losskakel, sê om gekleurde spelers te laat speel, was nooit ’n amptelike rede vir hul insluiting in die Superreeks nie.“Daar is nooit amptelik gesê dit is die rede nie.”Die Cheetahs het die Kings Saterdag met 53-14 vermorsel in die eerste van twee promosie-en-relegasiewedstryde.Claassen reken die Kings gaan nie die mas opkom in die Superreeks nie.“Hulle gaan verneder word.” Roux het ontken dat Saru geld vir die Kings gegee het om spelers te kontrakteer vir aanstaande jaar se Superreeks.“Saru het nie méér geld vir die Kings gegee as vir enige ander unie nie en sal ook nie bykomende geld gee sodat hulle beter vaar in die Superreeks nie.”Botha wou hom nie uitlaat oor die Kings se kanse nie.“Ons sal moet wag en sien. Hulle het ’n paar spelers gekontrakteer wat dalk ’n verskil kan maak. Tot voor die onderskep-drie van Andries Strauss het hulle nie te vrot gevaar teen die Cheetahs die afgelope naweek nie.”Cheeky Watson, president van die Kings, het teen druktyd nie sy selfoon geantwoord nie.
24 Oct 2012, 17:16 pm
Talking abput the kings:
DIE feit dat daar nie ’n enkele gekleurde speler die naweek vir die Oostelike Provinsie Kings teen die Cheetahs opgedraf het nie, is ’n probleem vir die Suid-Afrikaanse Rugbyunie (Saru).Só sê die uitvoerende hoof van Saru, Jurie Roux.“Dit is ’n probleem vir Saru en ons het dit met die Kings opgeneem.”Roux het nie gesê wat aan die Kings gesê is nie.Wynand Claassen, oud-Bokkaptein, het gesê as die Kings nie Suid-Afrikaanse gekleurde spelers kies om te speel nie, is dit sinloos om hulle aanstaande jaar in die Superreeks te laat speel.“Dit defeat die purpose. Word hulle nie juis toegelaat om in die Superreeks te speel sodat meer gekleurde spelers die kans gegun word om op daardie vlak rugby te speel nie?”Naas Botha, voormalige Springbok-losskakel, sê om gekleurde spelers te laat speel, was nooit ’n amptelike rede vir hul insluiting in die Superreeks nie.“Daar is nooit amptelik gesê dit is die rede nie.”Die Cheetahs het die Kings Saterdag met 53-14 vermorsel in die eerste van twee promosie-en-relegasiewedstryde.Claassen reken die Kings gaan nie die mas opkom in die Superreeks nie.“Hulle gaan verneder word.” Roux het ontken dat Saru geld vir die Kings gegee het om spelers te kontrakteer vir aanstaande jaar se Superreeks.“Saru het nie méér geld vir die Kings gegee as vir enige ander unie nie en sal ook nie bykomende geld gee sodat hulle beter vaar in die Superreeks nie.”Botha wou hom nie uitlaat oor die Kings se kanse nie.“Ons sal moet wag en sien. Hulle het ’n paar spelers gekontrakteer wat dalk ’n verskil kan maak. Tot voor die onderskep-drie van Andries Strauss het hulle nie te vrot gevaar teen die Cheetahs die afgelope naweek nie.”Cheeky Watson, president van die Kings, het teen druktyd nie sy selfoon geantwoord nie.
24 Oct 2012, 17:17 pm
Sorry this tablet is killimg me
24 Oct 2012, 17:19 pm
@willievz-96:
Wasn’t that more a gesture, rather like giving a Springbok head to the NZ club that beat the touring Boks?
24 Oct 2012, 17:19 pm
Bit of radioactive pollution next…
I took apiss
at fortune’s sweet kiss…
POP!
24 Oct 2012, 17:20 pm
You can win the conference and still not have a home semi. Ask the reds
24 Oct 2012, 17:22 pm
@Heavens Game-107: HG, no wonder you are so misunderstood here…
24 Oct 2012, 17:22 pm
@David-106: Nope, won it fair and square, in 1899.
Not my fault that Western Province and Transvaal did not compete
24 Oct 2012, 17:23 pm
@willievz-101:
Yeah, we really missed out after guaranteeing a home final if we won the semi, by heading the full log.
24 Oct 2012, 17:23 pm
@willievz-110: Did Natal??
24 Oct 2012, 17:24 pm
@Heavens Game-99: You’re only here because you ain’t welcome on the mormon site OR the site that initiates Facebook petitions to remove coaches.
You have nowhere else to go….
24 Oct 2012, 17:28 pm
@willievz-101: Agree with you 100%. Ditto for the Currie Cup re: travel is bad….
I mean, look at all the travel the WP kids have had to put in the last 2 weeks. It’s insane. CT, Jhb, CT, Durban. (Not even in 1st class). The Sharkies would have installed themselves as exhausted, over achieving, supremely talented but total underdogs if they were in our position.
To win – you need to stay at home.
24 Oct 2012, 17:29 pm
@Finfan-112: Who cares
Western Province, Transvaal and the Free State stayed away in 1899 because of the Anglo-Boer War. WP and Transvaal could have given us a a serious challenge.
Amazing to think that Natal won the trophy for the first time in 1990.
24 Oct 2012, 17:58 pm
WineX today gentlemen
24 Oct 2012, 19:21 pm
De Allende is a good move, but even better would be start Schreuder at 10 and play Catrakillis off bench, start with Pietersen at FB to take goal kicks and Aplon at 11 Habana on bench or else Aplon 14, Habana 11, Vd Heever on bench
either way would be better to start Schreuder at 10 and run it flat and hard at Lambie first half.. that the way to unsettle this sanctimonious lot.
Catrakillis is WP’s one weak link, Groom – Schreuder half back pairing and we take these guppies in their own little fortress.
24 Oct 2012, 19:23 pm
Plum brings in all the heavies – the Great Whites, the Tigers & the Zambezis:
http://www.sharksrugby.co.za/news/general/121024/Sharks_Ready_to_Fire
24 Oct 2012, 19:56 pm
Good team! WP are always good at bringing through the youngsters… It is keeping them that seems to be the problem… Sharks favoutites but do not write this WP team off…
24 Oct 2012, 21:12 pm
where is goddess of keo Nikkichita Signorita.. she deserves a medal of honor.. she single handed cleaned up this site with a few well placed poignant words of wisdom which no other male blogger or administrator could achieve before her – pointing to the source of the pollution and .. voila.. all gone.. cleaned up in a jiffy.. easy as abracadabra puddle sticks clean as a whistle .. all the chippy chip chipmunk poor me proprietorial of righteousness gone walkies other side of the cyber psycho sayonara seclusion where all the lurve runs warm and thick and smooth behind the sanctimonious knight in shiny armor curtain of secluded sectarian make believe.
24 Oct 2012, 21:23 pm
net ‘n boy sal iemand uit posisie kies in ‘n final
24 Oct 2012, 21:30 pm
Shut up.
24 Oct 2012, 21:40 pm
Nikichita should smack this fat aggrandized little kittykont moron who thinks he owns this blog sideways just like she smacked those other over precious little nincompoops who were getting way too big for their baby bunting booties.
24 Oct 2012, 21:46 pm
@assagai-123: Fight your own battles, you big old girl’s blouse. This running off to the toughest girl on the playground for pwotekshun is so weak. As is changing your name more often than your bedpan.
24 Oct 2012, 21:50 pm
Aplon at 15 will be a dream final!
Watch Lambie hoisting a barrage of ups and unders
24 Oct 2012, 21:51 pm
I fight my own battles here you little prick.. only problem is the moderators can’t take the heat cos the gestapo third force put out the hit squad to come silence the innocent lamb .. pity I can’t actually let you have it right where your snooty little pompous face needs rearranging .. huge great pity indeed.
24 Oct 2012, 21:53 pm
Lambie better watch out he don’t get flattened.. like a guava under a steam roller.. so Hondo how much the bookies offering for a WP win..? let see how much balls you got as a real hard core punter for true guts and glory.. I betcha you just too chicken to take a wager against the odds..
24 Oct 2012, 21:55 pm
@rugby_only-121:
wat dan van Kitch Christie?
24 Oct 2012, 21:59 pm
@assagai-126: The moderators just empty the trash from time to time. When it starts to stink, they put it out on the pavement. And once the bergies have gone through the bin and taken whatever’s remotely useful, the vrot rubbish is recycled into whatever the fck you like to call yourself next.
24 Oct 2012, 22:05 pm
@katman-129: keep sticking that self aggrandized little pseudo intelligent nose way up in the air you little piece of trash heap drek.. you need the lesson of your over inflated little arsehole life imparted to you straight between your over inflated ego rampant self idolizing eyes you miserable little pissarse self righteous skunk. I fix your fat arrogant problem for you so fast you wouldn’t know your pisswilly little punk faced nose from your pisswilly little punk faced arse pisswilly little pseudo intelligent piece of garbage punk.
24 Oct 2012, 22:10 pm
@assagai-130: The garbage analogy was mine, remember. I likened you you a steaming heap of trash. Find you own metaphorical insults, you cheap phony little fck.
24 Oct 2012, 22:12 pm
@katman-129: @assagai-130: get numbers, share BB pin or get whatsapp.. continue…
8)
24 Oct 2012, 22:17 pm
whatdammit
?/ this is becoming one of the longer king of (over?) the hill feuds recorded
24 Oct 2012, 22:17 pm
nothing is yours you pseudo little arsecreep fckup.. whoever you little pissarse piece of garbage cleverprick runt think you are.. you better think again you piece of scum arrogant fakefck trash.. and if you still can’t get the message it should be taught you straight between your fakefck self righteous eyes you miserable little pseudo intelligent scum faced skunk..
24 Oct 2012, 22:19 pm
@shooter-132: you tell this little fakefck runt to watch his fakefck step or he gets taught the lesson of his fakefck life.. and if he don’t wanna learn the lesson here I teach it to him in real life.
24 Oct 2012, 22:27 pm
@assagai-134: You really are a rather disgusting potty mouthed old man. Why can’t you try to be decent for a change? Why can’t you speak/write normally? What is actually wrong with you?
24 Oct 2012, 23:13 pm
Assagai your posts suck. You would want to drop Habana for Pietersen to fir Schroeder in. Youre mad.
24 Oct 2012, 23:25 pm
@Rhys7-137: if you want to beat Sharks only chance is take the game to them don’t wait for them to take it to you.. and only way to do that is play it hard and fast and direct up channel 1
which means Coetsee should have taken the gamble and started Schreuder at 10 leave Catrakillis on bench if it comes down to a penalty shoot out which he will know by 2nd half if his gamble paid off.. which it could do.
So if I want to keep some momentum for 2nd half I either start Habana with Vd Heever on wings or Aplon with Habana or Aplon with Vd Heever and have Habana on bench for 2nd half explosion.. Don’t make all that much difference which wing starts or finishes but what does make a big difference is which fly half starts and finishes because that will be the entire fulcrum of the game plan.. and Schreuder offers way much more at 10 than Catrakillis ever could or would.
24 Oct 2012, 23:28 pm
Even Joe Pietersen is a better option at 10 than Catrakillis.. at last resort Catrakillis can slot in at 15 in a last ditch effort to rake up points if it comes down to a kicking duel.. but the game should be taken to the Sharks from kick off and with Catrakillis at 10 I can’t see that happening.. WP could be on back foot all game long if Catrakilis runs the game from 10.
25 Oct 2012, 01:09 am
@assagai-138:
Ya, Schreuders cameo in the 2nd half kinda left me curious for more.
A bit similar to the way Goosens lil 10minute show in his debut test brought these grown azz Keo journos to their knees, taking it past their tonsils & ready to swallow all his undeserved hype spunkk, deepthroat style without a gag in sight.
But Schreuder might have something…I know you don’t rate Elton, but I do & he vanished when this guy took the field.
Ah well, maybe he’ll get another shot
25 Oct 2012, 03:05 am
@katman-136:
Los die ou kerel, sy Datsun wou nie start nie…he also had to up his ‘bonus’ payments from 1/2 loaf to 3/4 loaf, no happy at all.
25 Oct 2012, 03:31 am
On paper the Sharks should take this one…………….luckily we don’t play on paper so you never know!
25 Oct 2012, 03:34 am
@katman-129:
Classic
25 Oct 2012, 03:41 am
@assagai-135:
From what I have heard, you are a skinny little runt a rse with a “stoner” whispy beard. Are you trying to make up for something? Cause I very much doubt you would say what you say to 99% of the blogers here in real life as you’d get your a rse handed to you on a plate.
Gotta love cyber warriors…………
25 Oct 2012, 03:47 am
@whatever-142:
Jy ‘n weepee man?
Saturday may be a bridge to far but next year’s S15 looking good…
25 Oct 2012, 03:58 am
@Slartibartfast-145:
Ja Koos………WP jou lekker ding
Yes, next year should be good. Get some of those injured Boks back, Bekker Burger etc, some good off season purchases, so hopefully we can be up there again.
I just get frustrated with the backline though…………eish!
25 Oct 2012, 04:08 am
@whatever-146:
Hahahaha backline issues, this from a light 5 supporter! Jokes aside, they have been building well and I am sure they will be up there again. Some very good youngsters and hopefully a hort injury list next year.
25 Oct 2012, 04:18 am
The injury list is a real worry, not only at WP, but all of the SA sides. Not sure what it is, lack of conditioning can’t be blamed as Bissy and Schaulk were knees, JP thumb……Frans ? can’t recall what his injury was, Bekker back etc. Shows up our genuine lack of depth as I think HM was mal playing Taute at 13 v the AB’s.
25 Oct 2012, 04:33 am
@whatever-148:
It is hard to tell and probably a combination of a number of factors. I would think rather than conditioning maybe a case of incorrect training i.e. to hard, to long or just wrong focus.
Number of injuries can be classified as accidents but even then it can possibly be traced back to the training pitch. Of course as someone mentione on here before, our game plan also lend itself to a very abbrasive approach and the toll on the body adds up as the season progresses.
All said and done it does seem injuries follows a patern and some years you better off than others.
As for my own team, as long as we have Naka we have little hope…
25 Oct 2012, 05:59 am
@Slartibartfast-149:
Hahaha Koos, boet someone in the Cheetahs coaching system knows a thing or two about running the ball though…………..defence on da udder hand…
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