Etzebeth up for three awards
24 Oct 2012
Eben Etzebeth has been nominated in three categories for the Saru Player of the Year Awards.
The 20-year-old lock has starred for the Stormers, Springboks and now Western Province in what has been a fantastic rookie season. In recognition of his consistent efforts, he has been nominated in the categories for Player of the Year, Young Player of the Year and Super Rugby Player of the Year.
In the main category of Player of the Year, Etzebeth will be up against Bryan Habana, Keegan Daniel, JP Pietersen and Pat Lambie.
For the first time the public were able to vote in the awards, through a voting process on the Springboks’ Facebook page, alongside the country’s rugby media, who traditionally vote for the winners in some of the categories.
The winners will be announced at Saru’s annual awards ceremony in Cape Town on 1 November.
SARU PLAYER OF THE YEAR NOMINEES:
Player of the Year:
1. Keegan Daniel
2. Eben Etzebeth
3. Bryan Habana
4. Pat Lambie
5. JP Pietersen
Young Player of the Year:
1. Marcell Coetzee
2. Eben Etzebeth
3. Johan Goosen
4. Elton Jantjies
5. Raymond Rhule
Team of the Year:
1. Eastern Province Kings (Currie Cup First Division)
2. The Sharks (Super Rugby)
3. The Sharks (Currie Cup)
4. South Africa U20 (IRB Junior World Championship)
5. Stormers (Super Rugby)
Coach of the Year:
1. Allister Coetzee (Stormers and Western Province)
2. Pote Human (Griquas)
3. John Plumtree (The Sharks)
4. Alan Solomons (EP Kings)
5. Dawie Theron (SA U20)
Super Rugby Player of the Year:
1. Marcell Coetzee (The Sharks)
2. Keegan Daniel (The Sharks)
3. Bismarck du Plessis (The Sharks)
4. Eben Etzebeth (Stormers)
5. JP Pietersen (The Sharks)
Currie Cup Premier Division Player of the Year:
1. Deon Fourie (Western Province)
2. JC Janse van Rensburg (Golden Lions)
3. Elton Jantjies (Golden Lions)
4. Louis Ludik (The Sharks)
5. Raymond Rhule (Free State Cheetahs)
Currie Cup First Division Player of the Year:
1. Hansie Graaff (Griffons)
2. JW Jonker (Pumas)
3. Rudi Mathee (Pumas)
4. Paul Perez (EP Kings)
5. Luke Watson (EP Kings)
Vodacom Cup Player of the Year:
1. Marcel Brache (Western Province)
2. Demetri Catrakilis (Western Province)
3. Jaco Kriel (Golden Lions)
4. Gouws Prinsloo (Sharks XV)
5. Jan Serfontein (Blue Bulls)
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24 Oct 2012, 21:43 pm
@assagai-38: And a guy playing his first game at 12 in the CC has the edge over a guy who has played 12 for a Super Rugby team that klapped the Stormers?!
24 Oct 2012, 21:44 pm
@Slappes-34: Congratulations indeed.
24 Oct 2012, 21:47 pm
@kaksioek-47: that’s how they oppose each other on the field at set piece. blind side opposite open side, same as TH vs LH in the front row, or LW opposite RW in the back line.
Vd Heever is a better ball handler and better wing than Mvovo.. wait till Saturday you’ll find out..
the big mistake Coetsee is making is he should have Groom and Schreuder start vs Reinach and Lambie cos then it would be a WP cake walk all the way, they would run straight over your 2 journeymen.. with Catrakillis starting he’s giving you a nice easy opening to take the advantage at the gain line.. pity.. cos Schreuder starting would set your whole game on the back foot.. now you get too much space behind the scrum to do what you wanna
24 Oct 2012, 21:50 pm
@assagai-38: And Don Armand is the equal of Marcell Coetzee, who has 9 Test caps to his name and was nominated for Young Player of the Year and Super Rugby Player of the Year?!
Come on, surely this qualifies YOU for the Leon Schuster award.
24 Oct 2012, 21:50 pm
@Robzim, Transie, thanks . Katman thats adorable, but train her to shout Stormers before she begins to understand a scoreboard.
24 Oct 2012, 21:53 pm
@assagai-53: Fair enough on the explanation of the flanks comparison. But you’re still reaching here in your overall team comparison. Don’t get your hopes up for Saturday.
24 Oct 2012, 21:53 pm
@katman-50:
Human – intelligence usually kicks in at all earnest at the age of three so in another 6 months time she will be a Stormer.
24 Oct 2012, 21:54 pm
@Slappes-55: Don’t joke. Took my 4 year old boy to watch the Lions game at the company suite in Newlands a few weeks back. So he hears the crown shouting PROVINCE, PROVINCE and he asks me what they’re saying. Naturally, I tell him they’re shouting PROBLEMS, and it would be cool if he shouted along. So he spent the rest of the game shouting PROBLEMS to everyone in the suite. And we won the game. It was a beautiful day.
24 Oct 2012, 21:55 pm
@kaksioek-49: Fark all the politics my man….he said this….he said that….I rather just watch and emjoy ….not interested in all the kak that goes with it anymore…
24 Oct 2012, 21:57 pm
And Skop I rate Damian de Allende too – he’s looked good every time I’ve seen him play in this CC. But he’s not going to win the game for Problems.
24 Oct 2012, 21:58 pm
@kaksioek-56: so you reckon its a done deal already.. good for you.. hope you got enough strength in your psycho analysis armor when the saints come marching through
24 Oct 2012, 22:00 pm
@grant10-59: Good for you, I guess. But it was enough to send you packing before. And I personally find it hard – **** that, impossible – to stomach. I feel like emulating “King” Luke whenever I think about what his pa got up to – and continues to get up to.
24 Oct 2012, 22:01 pm
Armand is a few divisions below Coetzee in class. Same goes for de Allende vs Jordaan. The only place that Province shade this contest is in the locks and in Habana. And maybe the ginger.
24 Oct 2012, 22:03 pm
How the hell did Lambie and Jantjies make it on any of the lists?
24 Oct 2012, 22:03 pm
@Robzim , @Katman lol! Yip Rob that poor son of katters is being brainwashed by his father, wait till he googles superrugby lions…:D
24 Oct 2012, 22:05 pm
@Slappes-65: My kids aren’t touching the internet until they’re 18
24 Oct 2012, 22:07 pm
Coetzee knows class when he sees it.
WP coach agog over classy Lambie
by Gavin Rich 23 October 2012, 07:02
Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer might have ended up having an interesting chat with Allister Coetzee had the current Western Province mentor agreed to his request to take up the position of national assistant earlier this year.
Over one player in particular, Patrick Lambie, they would surely have had a severe disagreement.
While Meyer told the media before the international season started that he rated Lambie as only his second-best fullback and third best flyhalf, Coetzee has always been adamant that the young Natalian is a world-class player who can do the business on the highest stage.
He even went on record before last year’s World Cup in New Zealand saying that were he the Springbok coach, he would start with Lambie at No 10.
There is good reason for Coetzee’s high regard for the versatile Sharks player.
Apart from the fact that he was a former Bok backline coach and is an astute judge of talent at the back, he and his team have been hurt by Lambie before.
The 2010 Currie Cup final in Durban was decided by Lambie’s flashes of genius in the opening salvos and then by his calm big-match composure later on.
And while he was trying hard at a press conference in Bellville on Monday evening not to isolate Sharks individuals as special threats, and he is probably right in saying that the Durbanites just have so much impressive depth all-round that it would be foolish to do so, he left no doubt that he sees Lambie as the key to Saturday’s decider in Durban.
Stop Lambie and you have some chance of stopping the Sharks. Fail to stop him and your chances of Currie Cup success aren’t just slipping down a precipitous path into Durban harbour, they’re already sunk 10 metres under the water.
EXTRA TIME ON THE BALL
“There is no denying that Pat Lambie is a very special player indeed, one of those really classy players who stand out because of the extra time they have on the ball and their ability to win matches for their team,” said Coetzee.
“I’ve always rated Lambie, ever since I saw him first play. He is an excellent flyhalf, he has all the attributes for the position, and he has shown that since returning to the position since coming back from the Springboks.
“For someone like him, moving back to flyhalf is like getting back onto a bicycle. You never lose the knack of knowing how to do it.
“But I have been amazed at how strongly he has made his point with the opportunities he has been given in the last two matches for the Sharks. He has probably exceeded expectations. Against both Griquas and then against the Bulls he was outstanding.”
Reminded that 12 months ago he had said Lambie should be the Bok flyhalf, Coetzee just smiled.
“My opinion might not be that important, but he is a well rounded player. Lambie had a blinder in the 2010 final against us (where he scored 25 of the Sharks’ 30 points), but he is such a gifted player. Once he sees an opportunity, he will take it.”
So with Lambie looming as the same sort of influence on this final as Naas Botha used to be back in the days when he orchestrated matters in the light blue No 10 of Northern Transvaal, can he be stopped?
He can be, and Coetzee hasn’t forgotten that the Stormers managed to do the trick in Super Rugby fixtures against the Sharks in the 2011 season.
It all comes down in the end to that old cliché – get on top in the forward battle, and the influence of the general is significantly diminished.
“It’s all about placing him under pressure, and to do that you have to get on top of the pack that is playing in front of him,” said Coetzee.
“We saw even with Dan Carter when he played at Newlands that when he was put under pressure he didn’t look good. Anyone can be forced into mistakes if forced to play under pressure.
“But Lambie is cool, calm and collected. It’s going to be a big ask and that is a very strong pack of forwards that he plays behind.”
What amazes about Lambie, and Coetzee has noted this, is his ability to bring out his best in the biggest games, the ones that really matter.
He did it in the 2010 final, again when playing fullback in the 2011 Super Rugby decider against the Bulls at Loftus, again at fullback in a losing cause in the World Cup quarterfinal and at flyhalf in last week’s semifinal in Durban, where there was so much focus on his supposed personal duel with Morne Steyn.
“The way he performs is the sign of a world-class player, that ability to produce in the big games is a sign of class, and that is why he is such a threat.
“But we cannot focus on Lambie only. If we do that we will miss Lwazi Mvovo going over and scoring in the corner,” he smiled.
If WP do somehow succeed in forcing Lambie to play under pressure, thus blunting his influence, it may arrest some of the momentum that the Lambie supporters have gathered over these past two weeks.
But arguably he has already done enough to suggest he should be strongly in contention to wear the Bok flyhalf jersey ahead of Elton Jantjies, and even suggesting that maybe Morne Steyn can play ahead of him would open that person to ridicule.
Meyer must surely see that in Lambie he has a player who has no weaknesses – he is a great decision-maker, a strong kicker out of hand, asks questions of opposing defenders, is a sound distributor and link, kicks his goals under pressure, and undeniably has the temperament for top rugby.
In short, if Lambie is not selected, serious questions will have to be asked of the vision and ability of the national coach.
24 Oct 2012, 22:08 pm
yippedee do da the Sharkies got all the aces and all the bases covered.. won’t it be a beautiful turn up for the books when WP read them the riot act on Saturday..
Coetsee should send on Schreuder at Lambie and smack these overrated guppies for six out the park
24 Oct 2012, 22:08 pm
@kaksioek-62: @kaksioek-62: We will never see eye to eye on the Watsons….so lets just leave it at that and move along I reckon….far more interesting things to discuss like how my outgunned wp going to deal with the mighty sharks the weekend…far more pleasant subject matter
24 Oct 2012, 22:12 pm
@kaksioek-67: Gavin Rich sounds too much like a starry eyed fanboy to be taken seriously here.
24 Oct 2012, 22:14 pm
@Katman, i reckon his mates at primary school will inform him..through ridicule.
24 Oct 2012, 22:16 pm
@katman-70: And he’s a brokeback – so maybe, just maybe, there’s something to it.
24 Oct 2012, 22:18 pm
Anybody seen Skop around? Self imposed exile or banned?
24 Oct 2012, 22:20 pm
@grant10-69: Sure, the only reason I bring it up is that you went from wanting to be a Watson to losing the faith and your mind completely and then straight back to wanting to be a Watson. It’s like a bad soap opera plot – Grant10 is dead, no he’s not, he’s in the shower and it was all a bad dream (sequence). Whatever works for you I guess.
24 Oct 2012, 22:21 pm
@Slappes-73: assagai = Skop
24 Oct 2012, 22:29 pm
@Slappes-73: Oh, he’s soiled himself three times in the last hour over on the Coetzee backs rookie thread. The place stinks to high heaven.
24 Oct 2012, 22:30 pm
@kaksioek-74: yes…whatever works for me mate….dont want you to lose sleep concerning yourself about me ….I just want to stick to rugby …..
24 Oct 2012, 22:30 pm
@Slappes-71: I don’t think so. I think they’ll respect his commitment and loyalty.
24 Oct 2012, 22:32 pm
@Slappes-73: banned then reincarnated as other identities ..
congrats on your new addition .. well done ..
24 Oct 2012, 22:43 pm
@grant10-77: Good luck for Saturday – you’re going to need it. I have work to do – goodnight all.
24 Oct 2012, 22:43 pm
@katman-76: nope you little arsehole self righteous prick came stuck your pseudo little fanny faced nose where it don’t belong not so.. piece of outright self righteous heap of garbage trash ..
seems little self righteous cleverdick pricks like you don’t get the message till its rammed straight through your self righteous punk eyed face for good measure .. you don’t wanna learn the lesson then get it taught to you again and again till you learn it you piece of garbage laced two faced skunk.. and if it ain’t going to get taught to you here.. then let it get taught to you where it counts you stupid self righteous piece of sniveling snot nosed trash .. straight through your sniveling snotty nosed over aggrandized cleverdick mouth punk.
24 Oct 2012, 22:46 pm
@assagai-81: Keep on talking, old man. You’re talking yourself all the way out onto the pavement again.
24 Oct 2012, 22:48 pm
@katman-82: whatever it takes fakefck.. whatever it takes to teach little fakefcks like you what actually counts you little pseudo arse little fakefck punk… .. round and round and round we go you miserable little two faced piece of garbage rat faced skunk…
24 Oct 2012, 22:49 pm
Player of the year: Bryan Habana
would have though Francois Louw would be up for that nomination ahead of Keegan Daniel who only played v Arg? Dont quite understand it
Young player of the year: Eben Etzebeth
Team of the year: Sharks currie cup if they win saturday, if not, SA U20′s
Coach of the year: John Plumtree for delivering Sharks to two finals, AC a close second
Super rugby player of the year: JP Pietersen
Premier Division CC player of the year: Deon Fourie followed up by Jc Janse Van Rensburg
First Division CC player of the year: Luke Watson for his contribution during the time he was not injured
Vodacom cup player of the year: Demetri Catrakilis for winning it with that kick and maintaining form into the Currie Cup
Thats my view
24 Oct 2012, 22:51 pm
@kaksioek-80: thanks…you right…will be very tough at the tank.
24 Oct 2012, 22:51 pm
@Rhys7-84: I think you’re right in all categories. Although awarding Watson for less than half a season doesn’t feel right. But I reckon he’ll get it.
24 Oct 2012, 23:23 pm
Yeah, what can I say. That’s just the way things go. I guess he deserves it.
25 Oct 2012, 00:54 am
BWAHAHAHAHAHA KIKIKIKIKIKIKIK TLTLTLTLTLTLTLTLTL!
Just seen skop’s team match ups at #38.
Please, if anyone wants a serious belly wobble of a laugh, please please please read his post at #38!!!!
I fell off my chair and hurt my stomach laughing!
What a joker!
25 Oct 2012, 03:22 am
Johan Strauss????
JJ Engelbrecht ??
Junadre Kruger??
CJ Stander???
Arno Botha??
25 Oct 2012, 03:31 am
Frnas Venter??
25 Oct 2012, 03:44 am
@katman-86:
You reckon the “power by be” rig the voting as well? Only way twatson would win it!
25 Oct 2012, 04:57 am
@assagai-83:
lol
Love it.
25 Oct 2012, 05:58 am
@Hurricane-92:
I think he skipped his medication again!
25 Oct 2012, 06:22 am
Article from Rugby365…..
Bath on Wednesday confirmed one of the worst-kept secrets – Nick Koster will join Francois Louw in England.
As this website reported a few weeks ago, the 23-year-old back row, Koster, was signed from Western Province.
An impressive and pacey young player, Koster represented Western Province since the 2008.
He made his Super Rugby debut in 2009 on the wing, but has since reverted to his traditional position in the back row.
Koster is an imposing figure and has represented South Africa at all age group levels.
Quick, strong and brave, he will add an extra dimension to the club’s talented back row.
“Nick is a very exciting young player and we are delighted that he has agreed to move to Bath,” Bath head coach Gary Gold said.
“He is a hard-working, incredibly motivated guy, and we are sure he will fit in with the club ethos we are developing.
“We have a very talented and competitive back row at present, and Nick knows he will have to fight for his place, but he is up for the challenge and we can’t wait to see the results.
“We’d like to thank Western Province for their co-operation in allowing Nick to join us, and we look forward to a long and prosperous relationship with them.
“Hopefully it will allow players to potentially spend time with the other club as and when the opportunity should arise,” Gold said.
25 Oct 2012, 06:24 am
@thesaint-94: I know it isn’t news, but please lay eyes on the last paragraph… Flo might be Stormers bound on a loan… Gold has practically said it outright.
25 Oct 2012, 06:32 am
@thesaint-95:
Hey chciken killer, stop replying to your own posts, it is poor form!
25 Oct 2012, 10:22 am
IMO
Player of the Year:
3. Bryan Habana
Young Player of the Year:
2. Eben Etzebeth
Team of the Year:
5. Stormers (Super Rugby)
Coach of the Year:
1. Allister Coetzee (Stormers and Western Province)
Super Rugby Player of the Year:
2. Keegan Daniel (The Sharks)
Or
4. Eben Etzebeth (Stormers)
Currie Cup Premier Division Player of the Year:
1. Deon Fourie (Western Province)
Currie Cup First Division Player of the Year:
5. Luke Watson (EP Kings)
Vodacom Cup Player of the Year:
1. Marcel Brache (Western Province)
25 Oct 2012, 16:29 pm
This must be the poorest representation by the Bulls in history. Just goes to show how forgetable the season was. Well, there’s always next year. Come on boys time to step up!
25 Oct 2012, 16:45 pm
Player of the Year: Eben Etzebeth
Young Player of the Year: Marcell Coetzee
Team of the Year: South Africa U20 (IRB Junior World Championship)
Coach of the Year: John Plumtree (The Sharks)
Super Rugby Player of the Year: JP Pietersen (The Sharks)
Currie Cup Premier Division Player of the Year: Elton Jantjies (Golden Lions)
Currie Cup First Division Player of the Year: No Idea
Vodacom Cup Player of the Year: Demetri Catrakilis (Western Province)
25 Oct 2012, 16:46 pm
@goodstuff-97: Hahahahaha you MUST be a WP and Stormers fan!
As am I, but I cant objectively award them Team of the Year, Coach of the Year.
I was torn between Brache and Catrakilis though…
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