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		<title>By: jet jungle</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2264744</link>
		<dc:creator>jet jungle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since frequenting  this keo world I have realised once again the world is a scary place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since frequenting  this keo world I have realised once again the world is a scary place.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormtrooper</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2264518</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormtrooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear HM

I have a problem &amp; perhaps you can help me. Why do you have to use Taute in the midfield? There is no shortge of good centres in SA who are better suited in that position.

Confused!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear HM</p>
<p>I have a problem &amp; perhaps you can help me. Why do you have to use Taute in the midfield? There is no shortge of good centres in SA who are better suited in that position.</p>
<p>Confused!</p>
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		<title>By: jacoshark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2264381</link>
		<dc:creator>jacoshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[everyone on this site calling JDJ the best centre in the country suddenly is absolutely ludicrous
if anyone watched the stormers in the S15, it was clear as day how poor he was all season- bar one game against the rebels
yes, he is extremely talented, but he scored one match turning try in a CC game ffs!!!
hes very solid on defence, and can step like a maori but he cant pass for hsit
whats the point playing centre if you cant pass??

personally id still start him ahead of JDV any day of the week]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone on this site calling JDJ the best centre in the country suddenly is absolutely ludicrous<br />
if anyone watched the stormers in the S15, it was clear as day how poor he was all season- bar one game against the rebels<br />
yes, he is extremely talented, but he scored one match turning try in a CC game ffs!!!<br />
hes very solid on defence, and can step like a maori but he cant pass for hsit<br />
whats the point playing centre if you cant pass??</p>
<p>personally id still start him ahead of JDV any day of the week</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2264189</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 06:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2264157&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;skopdiekan-97&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2264092&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bell-95&lt;/a&gt;: Stop being so negative]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2264157" rel="nofollow">skopdiekan-97</a>: @<a href="#comment-2264092" rel="nofollow">Bell-95</a>: Stop being so negative</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2264187</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 06:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263962&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-91&lt;/a&gt;: Nama , so we should acuse Meyer of being a Sharkie then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263962" rel="nofollow">nama1-91</a>: Nama , so we should acuse Meyer of being a Sharkie then.</p>
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		<title>By: skopdiekan</title>
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		<dc:creator>skopdiekan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[big bullshitter this dude
kak coach with an ideology to suit
this oke got no intention of ever being a realist
he&#039;s stuck in a time warp I dunno if he gonna ever get out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big bullshitter this dude<br />
kak coach with an ideology to suit<br />
this oke got no intention of ever being a realist<br />
he&#8217;s stuck in a time warp I dunno if he gonna ever get out</p>
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		<title>By: SjamBok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2264112</link>
		<dc:creator>SjamBok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263624&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gumboots-57&lt;/a&gt;:  FFS gumboots - have you not seen a drastic improvement in at least our forward play this year - from rookies to putting the settled AB pack under pressure?  And have you not seen our defence improve slowly? I have. 

Did you not notice how, for the first time in a while, we smashed Australia DECISIVELY?  How are you not seeing the improvement?

The only thing missing in our arsenal is still decisive attacking play from our backs. But I think that aspect was put a distant third on the priority list, because without the first two, you cannot have the third.  That will come in time too.  I would have loved to see Carlos Spencer as consultant to the Boks for backline play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263624" rel="nofollow">Gumboots-57</a>:  FFS gumboots &#8211; have you not seen a drastic improvement in at least our forward play this year &#8211; from rookies to putting the settled AB pack under pressure?  And have you not seen our defence improve slowly? I have. </p>
<p>Did you not notice how, for the first time in a while, we smashed Australia DECISIVELY?  How are you not seeing the improvement?</p>
<p>The only thing missing in our arsenal is still decisive attacking play from our backs. But I think that aspect was put a distant third on the priority list, because without the first two, you cannot have the third.  That will come in time too.  I would have loved to see Carlos Spencer as consultant to the Boks for backline play.</p>
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		<title>By: Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[meyer you idiot! Jdj is a 12 and 13 option! In 2010&#039;s super rugby he was the 12 and fourie the 13 jou dom d##s!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meyer you idiot! Jdj is a 12 and 13 option! In 2010&#8242;s super rugby he was the 12 and fourie the 13 jou dom d##s!</p>
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		<title>By: garth</title>
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		<dc:creator>garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what HM is trying to say is that we should all shut the f... up while he picks his undeserving buddies.  Rhule and Lambie to carry tackle bags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what HM is trying to say is that we should all shut the f&#8230; up while he picks his undeserving buddies.  Rhule and Lambie to carry tackle bags.</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2264051</link>
		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263962&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-91&lt;/a&gt;: 
A good idea to pick Chiliboi and Steenkamp on the Mid Week team
Remember the 2009 EOYT against Leichester?
:-D :-]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263962" rel="nofollow">nama1-91</a>:<br />
A good idea to pick Chiliboi and Steenkamp on the Mid Week team<br />
Remember the 2009 EOYT against Leichester?<br />
 <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  :-</p>
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		<title>By: mxhosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxhosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@wpstormerbok-77:

Let&#039;s see, all three made their debuts in 2006 aged 19, Chilliboy and Lobberts had starred in the baby boks&#039; WC campaigns for 2 years (winning one and losing the other to France in France). Sure Chilliboy was used as a political tool. And just because Lobberts never quite replicated that kinda form in the pros does not mean they was they were any less talented. For you to suggest that only JJP (a 6ft3 black fullback turned winger) was the only there on talent alone, is wrong...

Any youngster that is picked for a national team in his teens, is picked based on his talent and potential. Others, realise that potential very early, ala F Steyn, Schalk et al. While others like Lobberts and Meyer Bosman, wilt under all that pressure and expectation and become pit part provincial players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@wpstormerbok-77:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, all three made their debuts in 2006 aged 19, Chilliboy and Lobberts had starred in the baby boks&#8217; WC campaigns for 2 years (winning one and losing the other to France in France). Sure Chilliboy was used as a political tool. And just because Lobberts never quite replicated that kinda form in the pros does not mean they was they were any less talented. For you to suggest that only JJP (a 6ft3 black fullback turned winger) was the only there on talent alone, is wrong&#8230;</p>
<p>Any youngster that is picked for a national team in his teens, is picked based on his talent and potential. Others, realise that potential very early, ala F Steyn, Schalk et al. While others like Lobberts and Meyer Bosman, wilt under all that pressure and expectation and become pit part provincial players.</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2263962</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263946&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;capebull-88&lt;/a&gt;: 
Well, I&#039;m willing to make a bet that the Bulls will have more players starting in the test than WP.  :lol:

Yes, the majority will be Sharkies.

My guess is the team will not differ much from this:

15. Zane
14. JPP
13 Taute
12. JdV
11. Hougaard
10. Morne
9. Pienaar
8. Vermeulen
7. Alberts
6. Flo
5. Kruger
4. Etzebeth
3. Jannie
2. Strauss
1. Beast

Reserves
Chilliboy
Gurthrow
Cillier
Flip
Coetzee
Elton
JdJ
Lambie
Lambie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263946" rel="nofollow">capebull-88</a>:<br />
Well, I&#8217;m willing to make a bet that the Bulls will have more players starting in the test than WP.  <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, the majority will be Sharkies.</p>
<p>My guess is the team will not differ much from this:</p>
<p>15. Zane<br />
14. JPP<br />
13 Taute<br />
12. JdV<br />
11. Hougaard<br />
10. Morne<br />
9. Pienaar<br />
8. Vermeulen<br />
7. Alberts<br />
6. Flo<br />
5. Kruger<br />
4. Etzebeth<br />
3. Jannie<br />
2. Strauss<br />
1. Beast</p>
<p>Reserves<br />
Chilliboy<br />
Gurthrow<br />
Cillier<br />
Flip<br />
Coetzee<br />
Elton<br />
JdJ<br />
Lambie<br />
Lambie</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Gekko</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2263954</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Gekko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263827&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-79&lt;/a&gt;: 

Moenie poep hoer as jou poephol nie!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263827" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-79</a>: </p>
<p>Moenie poep hoer as jou poephol nie!</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2263948</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263921&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-86&lt;/a&gt;: No...... we have Vermeulen , the Rock from Cape Town. 

He does not move any where on the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263921" rel="nofollow">nama1-86</a>: No&#8230;&#8230; we have Vermeulen , the Rock from Cape Town. </p>
<p>He does not move any where on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/10/31/kirchners-days-numbered/#comment-2263946</link>
		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-82&lt;/a&gt;: Not so sure you are right I have , 

Kruger and Chikko , Hougie on bench with Lambie at 10, we all know that when Taute matures he could take over , but he made 2 horrible mistakes in cc  anf RC.

But to say the team is blue no  , rather black and white]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263880" rel="nofollow">nama1-82</a>: Not so sure you are right I have , </p>
<p>Kruger and Chikko , Hougie on bench with Lambie at 10, we all know that when Taute matures he could take over , but he made 2 horrible mistakes in cc  anf RC.</p>
<p>But to say the team is blue no  , rather black and white</p>
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		<title>By: capebull</title>
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		<dc:creator>capebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263690&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wpstormerbok-70&lt;/a&gt;: I know they will start with Vermeulen , i just hope they give Arno a chance. Wp has lead the way with playing younsters , look at Eben , Kolisi, Kisthoff ect. Bulls are a bit slack in this. Arno has all the potential to carry the ball and not fade from rough stuff. He was RFU 0/20 player of the year when he captained , Eben , Gous , Kolisi , Carr.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263690" rel="nofollow">wpstormerbok-70</a>: I know they will start with Vermeulen , i just hope they give Arno a chance. Wp has lead the way with playing younsters , look at Eben , Kolisi, Kisthoff ect. Bulls are a bit slack in this. Arno has all the potential to carry the ball and not fade from rough stuff. He was RFU 0/20 player of the year when he captained , Eben , Gous , Kolisi , Carr.</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
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		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263890&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dusky-84&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263901&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dusky-85&lt;/a&gt;: 
That he is and I also agree with re the result against Ireland.

They&#039;ll beat us if they can even remotely reproduce the kind of game they played in the 2nd test against the All Blacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263890" rel="nofollow">Dusky-84</a>: @<a href="#comment-2263901" rel="nofollow">Dusky-85</a>:<br />
That he is and I also agree with re the result against Ireland.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll beat us if they can even remotely reproduce the kind of game they played in the 2nd test against the All Blacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are going to see our backsides against Ireland. Heyneke &#039;dead man walking&#039; Meyer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are going to see our backsides against Ireland. Heyneke &#8216;dead man walking&#8217; Meyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2263860&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nama1-81&lt;/a&gt;: Flippin idiot. Nothing has changed since the p!ss poor performance in the Tri-Nations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2263860" rel="nofollow">nama1-81</a>: Flippin idiot. Nothing has changed since the p!ss poor performance in the Tri-Nations.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong fullback to focus on. The worst possible thing that happened to the Sharks in the Currie Cup final was Habana getting injured and Joe Pietersen coming on. Pietersen played the best fullback game that any South African fullback has played in any game - all year long.

Right now - at this very moment, Joe Pietersen would be my man.

But Heyneke remains f$%king clueless. I see he has gone to Marco Wentzel as lock backup. Anton Bresler has played superlative rugby all year long. His final was not great, but he destroyed the Bulls and has played generally well all year.

Proves that Heyneke makes decisions reactively. You can see that from the number of Springbok jerseys he has handed out since he started.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong fullback to focus on. The worst possible thing that happened to the Sharks in the Currie Cup final was Habana getting injured and Joe Pietersen coming on. Pietersen played the best fullback game that any South African fullback has played in any game &#8211; all year long.</p>
<p>Right now &#8211; at this very moment, Joe Pietersen would be my man.</p>
<p>But Heyneke remains f$%king clueless. I see he has gone to Marco Wentzel as lock backup. Anton Bresler has played superlative rugby all year long. His final was not great, but he destroyed the Bulls and has played generally well all year.</p>
<p>Proves that Heyneke makes decisions reactively. You can see that from the number of Springbok jerseys he has handed out since he started.</p>
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