Saru hopes for new dawn
1 Nov 2012
The South African Rugby Union says it has committed to a transformation plan that will for once properly measure its success and failure on this issue.
The governing body held a two-day transformation indaba in Johannesburg, which concluded with Saru president Oregan Hoskins and representatives of each of the 14 member unions signing a declaration.
‘We have had visions and charters in the past, with good intentions, and progress has been made,’ Hoskins said. ‘But what distinguishes this one is the commitment to properly measure ourselves on our progress.’
The key performance areas will be access, skill and capability development, demographics, performance, and alignment to national policy and governance.
No details of the plan have been released yet (they will first discuss an implementation plan), but Hoskins explained that they would strive to go beyond previously unsuccessful attempts at transformation.
‘As the sports minister [Fikile Mbalula] said, transformation is not about the “vulgar” simplification of numbers in the Springbok team,’ Hoskins said. ‘It is about a whole range of opportunities being created in a number of different areas to continue to transform rugby at all levels and in all corners of our activity.’
Saru chief executive Jurie Roux said the indaba and declaration were part of an extensive strategy to finalise the transformation implementation plan. He also said it confirmed that Saru would adopt deliberate transformation initiatives in order to ensure equal opportunities existed for all South Africans.
‘We have had a group working on this process for several months,’ Roux said. ‘In April we presented the outline to the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee on Sport and since then we have workshopped the draft plan with provinces on an individual basis.
‘This indaba is the culmination of that process and from this we will finalise the implementation plan.’
Saru hopes the strategic transformation plan will increase the number of blacks involved at all levels of the game and ensure rugby was accessible to all who wished to participate. There will also be a focus on improving skills and performance in identified coaches, referees, administrators and players. It stressed that in accordance with transformation plan, Saru members would focus on quality and merit to deliver world-class performances on the field of play.
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1 Nov 2012, 11:53 am
@Stawm-48:
before or after the buffet costs..?..
1 Nov 2012, 11:54 am
“Saru hopes for new dawn”
Ryan.
What’ is wrong with our old Dawn.
1 Nov 2012, 11:57 am
What strikes me as funny about SARU’s thinking and all the posts above is that everybody seems to think it is just the underprivileged kids in SA that need skills development and training.
The average South African rugby player has very poor skills. Half of the scrummies in SA’s Super 15 sides can only pass well to one side. Our runners very rarely run at the gaps, and we knock the ball on in contact more than we should.
Lets offer good skills coaching to those who are interested in rugby and let the rest work itself out.
1 Nov 2012, 11:58 am
Pivotal shoot-out on Bok tour
Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:53 I want to stick with just two No.10s – the guys who can play in the World Cup
Three players will be in a straight ‘shoot-out’ to fill one remaining flyhalf spot in the Springbok squad from next year onwards.
Bok coach Heyneke Meyer revealed that as from 2013 he will stick with just two No.10s and those will be the guys who he feels can play in the World Cup in 2015.
While injuries have severely curtailed his career the past year, and can continue to limit his appearances for the Boks, Meyer has been outspoken in his admiration for the undoubted talents of four-Test rookie Johan Goosen.
Given the manner in which the Bok mentor eased the 20-year-old Free State Cheetahs pivot into the international arena this year and Meyer’s high estimation of his talents, it is a given that Goosen is one of the preferred choices for the 2015 World Cup in England.
That leaves the trio of Pat Lambie, Morné Steyn and Elton Jantjies to do battle for the other spot – a fact Meyer highlighted when he addressed the media in Cape Town, where the Boks started preparations for their tour of Ireland, Scotland and England.
“Obviously you want to win every Test and you shouldn’t try too many things at international level,” Meyer told the media briefing.
“However, I also want to use this tour to look at one or two possibilities.”
Those possibilities clearly include putting the three flyhalves on ‘trial’.
Bok veteran Morné Steyn, capped 41 times for his country and the holder of several world records, has suffered a severe slump in form this year. So much so that he was dropped from the Bok team in the Rugby Championship.
However, having been recalled for the year-end tour and a proven match-winner, Meyer is clearly going to give him one more shot at proving his detractors wrong.
Patrick Lambie has been used mainly as fullback back-up by Meyer, but the Bok mentor made it clear he will be given a run at No.10 on tour and is likely to start in one of the three Tests.
Elton Jantjies, who played off the bench behind Goosen in his two Test appearances this year, appears some way down the pecking order, but he too will get a chance at showing that he should be one of two frontline pivots in Meyer’s squad going forward.
However, given Meyer’s earlier statement that Lambie is seen mainly as a fullback at Test level, the Sharks player has most to gain from the ‘pivotal trial’ on tour.
“I have always been open with Patrick [Lambie] and said to him, if he wants to be a No.10, especially with the World Cup being in England, he has to be able to kick tactically more and better,” Meyer told the media briefing hen quizzed about Lambie position in the national team.
“Look at the Currie Cup Final, I know it is at a lower level. However, [even there] it is the team that defends best and have a tactical flyhalf that usually wins.”
Meyer again pointed to the Boks’ kicking shortcoming at international level this year as a reason for having astute tactical flyhalves.
“The strange thing is, if you look at our last Test against New Zealand – we were criticised, but they [the All Blacks] kicked 13 kicks more than us.
“I thought [Dan] Carter was superb in that second half, he kept turning us [around] and we couldn’t get out of our own half.
“You do need a tactical No.10.”
Meyer said he was impressed with Lambie’s progress, but made it clear this tour will be decisive in terms of Test flyhalves.
“I have been open with Patrick and told him if he wants to be at flyhalf he needs to work on his tactical kicking.
“It [Lambie's tactical kicking] has improved and he has worked hard, you can see he has worked hard.
“He is definitely a contender there and I think he can be a great No.10 going forward.
“However, in saying that, after this year I want to stick with [just] two No.10s and those will be the guys who can play in the World Cup [in 2015].”
Flyhalf is not the only position where a couple of players will be on trial.
Incumbent fullback Zane Kirchner can expect stiff competition from Lions rookie Jaco Taute.
Meyer revealed that even though Taute is expected to feature at centre on tour, given the midfield injuries he is faced with, Taute is regarded as a fullback.
“I believe his best position is at No.15,” Meyer said when asked about Taute’s position.
“Without giving too much away, this Test match [against Ireland next Saturday] I would like to see him at No.15, because I believe he can offer something different there.
“However, now with Bryan [Habana] injured and Frans Steyn out, there suddenly are not a lot of No.13s around.
“I would like to give him chance at fullback, but we are as little bit thin at centre. I thought JP [Pietersen] could double up there [midfield], but now Bryan is out as well. We have to shuffle it around, but I think he [Taute] can be a brilliant No.15.
“I see him in the future as a fullback and I have communicated that to him.”
Captain Jean de Villiers is currently the only fit inside centre in the squad, but Meyer said he does have other options should the skipper get injured on tour.
“I like guys to settle in a position.,” Meyer said, adding: “In the World Cup it helps if they can play more than one position. Jaco Taute can play at No.12 and Juan de Jongh can play at inside centre.
“We only have three [specialist] centres in the group, even though JP [Pietersen] can slot in there as well.”
1 Nov 2012, 12:00 pm
@Transformation-45: They work harder and don’t look at the mountain all day, so they deserve more, but really they should be paid double.
1 Nov 2012, 12:00 pm
@gonzo-32:
So in layman terms they have to plan to make a plan to implement a plan that quantifies the plan that they have yet to plan?
1 Nov 2012, 12:02 pm
@suffer_guy-6:
We need the full picture here though. Were they playing soccer with a rugby ball on a lovely green grassed field, or hard sun baked earth?
This fact can easily determine whether tackling each other is worth it or not!
1 Nov 2012, 12:05 pm
@Transformation-45: It’s probably the intellectual disability allowance most guppieland dwellers are entitled to, that ‘ups’ their earnings.
1 Nov 2012, 12:05 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-33: Yeah,well don’t expect to see Keegan there,’cause he does not think he’s gonna win anything
1 Nov 2012, 12:06 pm
@Te Rangatira-56:
You’re a natural for SA politics. Just add some anger and hatred to all not of your skin tone or way of thinking and you’re in! Throw in some absolute recklessness in economic understanding, and a total careless attitude for the consequences of your actions, and you can be our next prez!
(And if you throw in a total denialist attitude, you can automatically run for 2 terms)
1 Nov 2012, 12:08 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-51:
After buffet costs of course!
The comrades must satiate themselves in totality before allocating money to the poor.
1 Nov 2012, 12:09 pm
@Te Rangatira-56: You can’t put ‘plan’ and ‘SARU’ in the same sentence. (Unless the words totalcockup feature as well)
1 Nov 2012, 12:10 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-58:
It’s all the workers building nkandla.
1 Nov 2012, 12:10 pm
@Stawm-60:
Are you talking specifically about South Africa or world politics in general.
1 Nov 2012, 12:12 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-58:
or the fact that they are probably factoring public service employee salaries like zoomer’s 250 very, very big ones which he is busy spending on the upgrade to his royal kraal.
1 Nov 2012, 12:12 pm
@Jeraldjay-64:
World politics actually.
SA just seem to excel in it.
1 Nov 2012, 12:14 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-65:
Is he going to be building a private royal hospital and royal helicopter pad there as well, staffed by royal colonialists?
1 Nov 2012, 12:15 pm
@Stawm-61:
In the memo it’s always described as a “light finger lunch”.
R400 a head later …..
1 Nov 2012, 12:16 pm
@Stawm-61:
hehe
well, feeding the poor and hungry is hard work and to do that the ‘servants’ to the people need to be at full strength… so a multiple course buffet is an understandable expense to incur on the way to liberation and a better life for all.
1 Nov 2012, 12:19 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-65: Nope. I think you are wrong. It definitely is some sort of mental or emotional instability grant. And I use as my frame of reference the majority of guppies round these here parts.
1 Nov 2012, 12:20 pm
@gunther-68:
A bit like the lunch the deputy of the reserve bank had a few years ago – total bill of over R100 000 for about 12 people (stand corrected here though). Was in Sandton somewhere.
After being reprimanded for this, he celebrated events with an even bigger lunch.
Only Johnny Walker Blue Label is good enough.
1 Nov 2012, 12:21 pm
@Stawm-66:
In 2008 Obama was manna from heaven and was the “perfect politian” but look how things have changed.
35 millions worth of damages due to Sandy’s destruction. Hope he does a better job than George W after Catrina.
1 Nov 2012, 12:24 pm
@Jeraldjay-72:
Sorry $35 billion.
1 Nov 2012, 12:25 pm
@Jeraldjay-72:
Yup, seems politics is the way to go if you are too lazy and stupid to earn a decent living. There are no minimum entrance requirements to politics – you just need an inflated ego and a total disregard for the people who vote you in.
1 Nov 2012, 12:26 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-70:
1 Nov 2012, 12:29 pm
Problem with transformation is that it begins with a change in mindset. My experience with most of the people involved in rugby is that they see no value in changing “the system” and do their utmost to ensure that it does not happen. I am a black person, I like my rugby and I want whats best for SA Rugby. I would like to see more black people being given an opportunity, however I would not like our rugby to regress neither.
Opportunity for me means more black players from age group level, right through to Vodacom Cup and Currie Cup. The people at the helm of these institutions need to understand this. This is the reason why I would like to see younger administrators being given an opportunity at the expense of the more experienced ones. I feel that that is where transformation should begin.
1 Nov 2012, 12:32 pm
@siphamade-76:
Agreed 100%
Thats why I asked earlier in this thread how much is being budgeted for sports development from government. Kids need facilities to practice and learn the game before they can decide whether they like it or not. The cost of providing this for schools must be huge. It has to come from government.
1 Nov 2012, 12:37 pm
@Jeraldjay-73: @Stawm-74:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
It’s coming through a crack in the wall;
on a visionary flood of alcohol;
from the staggering account
of the Sermon on the Mount
which I don’t pretend to understand at all.
It’s coming from the silence
on the dock of the bay,
from the brave, the bold, the battered
heart of Chevrolet:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
Leonard.
1 Nov 2012, 12:40 pm
@siphamade-76: Great post!
1 Nov 2012, 12:40 pm
@Stawm-77
I only agree with you 75%.
My hope is that both the private sector as well as government should be involved. leaving it to government is a recipe for disaster and this is only from experience.
SARU also needs to be hands on in the whole process.
1 Nov 2012, 12:43 pm
@cane-78: Do you think Leonard Cohen had a premonition involving our blogging friend and confused ex-Saffa freedom fighter ‘Extraball’ when he penned these words?
1 Nov 2012, 12:44 pm
@trupisero-8:
you wicked man, you! 
@Stawm-48: Excellent question, the only thing is we’ll never know because I certainly will no longer easily believe anything which may be spewed out of Hoskins’s or Roux’s mouths.
I also wonder if any money which is claimed to be for development etc will ever reach its intended destination…
Sad but I do not trust them.
1 Nov 2012, 12:47 pm
Been asking for a couple of years now but to no avail… Will ask again…
Can the Keo boffins, Captains of Industry or kenners give this humble dumbfuck a definition of “Transformation”?
1 Nov 2012, 12:48 pm
Gotta love this Orwellian phrase being bandied about:
“Transformation of the Mind”…. WTF???
1 Nov 2012, 12:49 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-81:
Is ET among us?
Under what nik is he hiding?
1 Nov 2012, 12:49 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-79:
Please, stop it. I like it!
1 Nov 2012, 12:49 pm
@Stawm-67:
well, the best pilots are white
and zoomer is the boss, so only the best for the boss.
or is that like saying: “Look, if you go to a black pilot and he doesn’t fly your chopper properly, you don’t go back. If you go to a white pilot and he doesn’t fly your chopper properly, you go back and make sure he fixes the problem”…?..
1 Nov 2012, 12:50 pm
I applaud Saru and the government for implementing transformation policies for the greater good of all South African.Back in the days exclusion was the policy of the day.They were so arrogant in their ways and thinking that they even decided on selection policies for England and New ZealandSport and social policies were for the benifit of one community only.
1 Nov 2012, 12:50 pm
@siphamade-80:
I agree with you 78%
Government has the financial ability to get this job done if they would just stop “losing/borrowing” funds everywhere.
They can also provide tax benefits to the private sector to encourage their involvement.
Ultimately it is in their hands.
1 Nov 2012, 12:51 pm
@siphamade-76:
Sad thing is these younger adminstrators will start with good intentions but as soon as their is a crisis they will sell their souls to popular opinion.
And unfortunately popular opinion doesn’t support transformation.
1 Nov 2012, 12:53 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-70:
so was them leaving really because payments are/were delayed?
1 Nov 2012, 12:54 pm
@wnbb-88:
I believe the Berlin wall was also still standing in those days?
1 Nov 2012, 12:55 pm
If you want more black players in the bok 22 (besides the odd SA black player in the back three) that can actually play rugby and can physically match their Afrikaans and English SAFFA counter parts? Then raid ZImbabwe, the Shonas are the peak of athletic genes. Tall, big and fast. They are the moaris of Africa that and the Nigerians (but there are too many of them here as is) and imost important, they like rugby!!!
I say we scout the schools and rural areas of Zim and get those Shonas SA passports. We’ve had three Shonas in the SA rugby system and they have all three played for the boks.
In the end most Xhosas are too short and small and the Zulu’s hate rugby!
1 Nov 2012, 12:58 pm
@goodstuff-93:
Like you said, no need to scout Zim for those guys, they are here already, with SA ids.
This was governments plan all along.
1 Nov 2012, 12:58 pm
@Stawm-92: I think blacks had a bigger problem protecting their arses from being dumped from staircases and flipped out through windows of high rise buildings than to worry about a blooming wall somewhere in Deutschland.
1 Nov 2012, 13:00 pm
@Heavens Game-83:
Okay HG………………………………………….here goes, I’ll give it a go.
Transformation:
-A well rounded Poster who is not backward in coming forward when expressing his opinion.
-He is very knowledgeable on all aspects of the game and very well read.
-He is ballanced on all aspects of Rugby, except when it comes to the Kings/Lions.
-Keo.comedy needs more like him.
-He is not a jackal.
1 Nov 2012, 13:00 pm
@goodstuff-93: Look at Etsebeth, did not have the opportunities of the “Elite” schools, he went to a normal city school (Goodwood), and was spotted by Bekker (because how do you miss Etsebeth?) and because he had the physical ability has now made it all the way.
Let’s be honest, if we had physically talented black South Africans all over the place, than they would have made the step up.
There are three huge barriers/ challanges that stretch beyond SA Rugby and involve other departments or issue of SA:
1. The majority of the black population in SA are not getting proper nutrion.
2. Majority of balck South Africans do not like or even understand rugby.
3. The school facilities in poor areas are **** and thus the sport utilities are ****!
1 Nov 2012, 13:02 pm
@wnbb-95:
I agree entirely.
My point though is there has only been one captain of the SA ship these past 2 decades and its not us whities. We cant be blamed forever. The new captain is now responsible.
1 Nov 2012, 13:02 pm
@goodstuff-93:
i wouldn’t trust a nigie with anything on a rugby field
seriously though, are the shonas much bigger than the ndebele’s? wasn’t it the ndebeles who conquered them, or was this because of superiour fighting skills?
1 Nov 2012, 13:04 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-99:
Shorter assegaais?
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